Zone1 What does The Chosen People actually mean?

[hobelim]

And you are welcome to follow the law and try to work your way to Heaven,

Don't worry your silly self. It isn't work to not do stupid things. I always do exactly as God wills, so I always dwell in the sanctuary of his love, now and forever, in the middle of the kingdom of Heaven

I reached out my hand, took, and ate flesh of the fruit of the tree of life. I have my reward already!

You can continue to defy the Law of God, dying every single mass, never finding peace in death.

You claim is good what God has forbidden under penalty of death. You have your reward already!

I'm happy, hope you're happy too!

 

[hobelim]

I'm going with what Jesus said. His words tell you what He was talking about. When you do this, remember me and the new covenant I give you

Then do it.

And the WORD, (bread from heaven) became "Flesh" a NEW metaphor for Divine instruction.

Flesh that is pleasing to the eye and good to eat, flesh that satisfies the soul far more than bread.

Enough with your gibberish already. Go on now! Eat it.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Don't worry. You can throw your mind in the trash and demonstrate your love for God by defying the first command at mass and reveal how much you love Jesus by desecrating his teaching and celebrating his crucifixion as if the death of an innocent man can atone for your own sinfulness.

Thats pretty cowardly and reprehensible and God probably noticed but I won't stand in your way.
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I was just being neighborly. I thought if you were sincere you would save your soul from damnation

Oh well

Eternal life isn't for everyone.

If you are correct, then John is a liar:

John 3:16-19 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.​

1 John 3:5 You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin​

If you DON'T believe that an innocent man can atone for my sins, then Peter is lying too:

1 Peter 2:24: "He took our sins on himself, giving his body to be nailed on the tree, so that we, being dead to sin, might have a new life in righteousness"

Paul was a liar:

2 Corinthians 5:21 For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.​

Peter was lying:

1 Peter 2:24 He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness. By his wounds you have been healed.​

Hob, if you don't believe the above, you are in jeopardy. My name is found in the Book of Life because I accepted Christ as my Savior. My eternity is secured by Jesus. If you don't believe that an innocent man paid the price for your sins, then you have missed the point of Him coming.
He is the Lamb of God. The Jews used innocent lambs as substitutes for the death sentence they deserved because of their sin.
Christ is our innocent Lamb, who took away the sins of the world.

 

[ding]

Jesus didn't sacrifice anything. And he most certainly wasn't sacrificed by God so you can sin with impunity and remain an asshole for life. Jesus taught and demonstrated the only right way to understand the words of the Law that fulfills the promise of eternal life. He revealed a TRUTH and instead of doing the right thing some people chose instead to try to make him look like a nutjob.

Because they were embarrassed, caught prancing around naked acting like they were holy men robbing the dead and taking money from the poor for their theatrics and ritualistic trickery, actors with silly costumes, hats, rituals, candles, incense, ringing bells, and chanting. Oh the chanting!

The funny thing is that you are perpetuating the exact same ignorant interpretation of the Law that your beloved Jesus lived and died opposing. And you celebrate his death as if that saved 'us" from more pain and embarrassment. Whatever the fuck "us", a self negating multiplicity, really is.

The entirety of the gospels says Jesus did sacrifice his flesh and blood as foretold in Isaiah 53 and Psalms 22. No one said anything about sinning with impunity. That's your idiotic interpretation.

And again... Jesus didn't sacrifice his words. Jesus sacrificed his flesh and blood for our sins. So says the entirety of the New Testament. You take random verses out of context so you can rewrite the New Testament to your liking so that you don't have to accept Jesus is God.

 

[ding]

My name is found in the Book of Life because I accepted Christ as my Savior. My eternity is secured by Jesus.

Not according to Hobelim's theology. According to Hobelim's theology, you are an idolater and you are in hell already.

Ask him what Leviticus 18:22 is commanding.

 

[ding]

Then do it. And the WORD, (bread from heaven) became "Flesh" a NEW metaphor for Divine instruction. Flesh that is pleasing to the eye and good to eat, flesh that satisfies the soul far more than bread. Enough with your gibberish already. Go on now! Eat it.

Incorrect.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Don't worry your silly self. It isn't work to not do stupid things. I always do exactly as God wills, so I always dwell in the sanctuary of his love, now and forever, in the middle of the kingdom of Heaven

I reached out my hand, took, and ate flesh of the fruit of the tree of life. I have my reward already!

You can continue to defy the Law of God, dying every single mass, never finding peace in death.

You claim is good what God has forbidden under penalty of death. You have your reward already!

I'm happy, hope you're happy too!

^^^ Without one mention of Christ. And yet Christ said:

John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
^No one. No...one. 0.

For you to announce that you always do God's will, that means you are saved by works, yours. God thinks you always doing, instead of trusting His Son for your redemption, is a slap in the face. Dirty rags.

Here is the problem with you thinking you are always doing God's will and are sin free:
Romans 3: 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Not according to Hobelim's theology. According to Hobelim's theology, you are an idolater and you are in hell already.

Ask him what Leviticus 18:22 is commanding.

I know. Dear Hob. He has taken the participants in the Bible and has written a whole new book. The Gospel of Hob. Sadly, he has left out the main character. The importance of Jesus and the part He plays in our salvation is missing in Hob's repertoire.

 

[ding]

For you to announce that you always do God's will, that means you are saved by works, yours. God thinks you always doing, instead of trusting His Son for your redemption, is a slap in the face. Dirty rags.

But he always does as God commands. See?

I always do exactly as God commands. I am keystone in the Yahad of God; the habitation of light. No one else in heaven, on earth, or under the earth, can do what I have already done...

 

[ding]

I know. Dear Hob. He has taken the participants in the Bible and has written a whole new book. The Gospel of Hob. Sadly, he has left out the main character. The importance of Jesus and the part He plays in our salvation is missing in Hob's repertoire.

That's because he thinks he is the "keystone in the Yahad of God; the habitation of light. No one else in heaven, on earth, or under the earth, can do what [he] has already done..."

He's a flippin' nutjob.

 

[ding]

Before Jesus, yes. They were the founders of monotheism.

So you believe that God loves some of his creatures more than others?

 

[ding]

Divine instruction

You mean like in Leviticus 18:22? Wasn't that divine instruction?

 

[ding]

I always do exactly as God wills, so I always dwell in the sanctuary of his love, now and forever, in the middle of the kingdom of Heaven

And that's how everyone knows you are a fake. No one does God's will always.

 

[jwoodie]

God Chose Israel in the beginning, not just the Jews.

Before He created the Universe? Was Adam a Jew?

 

[jwoodie]

So you believe that God loves some of his creatures more than others?

God loves humans more than other creatures. He opens the door to eternity, but not all pass through.

 

[ding]

God loves humans more than other creatures. He opens the door to eternity, but not all pass through.

I think God loves his entire creation. I don't believe degrees enter into the equation at all. Everything works for good. To believe God loved the Jews more than others, makes God look bad in my opinion.

 

[Woodznutz]

Before He created the Universe? Was Adam a Jew?

God's plan of "the restitution of all things" began to take shape with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob/Israel.

 

[hobelim]

Hob, if you don't believe the above, you are in jeopardy. My name is found in the Book of Life because I accepted Christ as my Savior. My eternity is secured by Jesus. If you don't believe that an innocent man paid the price for your sins, then you have missed the point of Him coming.

No dear, you have missed the point of Jesus coming. Unless you accept and act on His revelation of the Law, the light of the world, you cannot have the eternal life promised for compliance in you.

Jesus dying on the cross doesn't alleviate self responsibility or save you from the consequences for your own actions. Only if you accept His teaching and act on it you will save your own soul.

" To commit sin is to break Gods Law. Sin, in fact, is lawlessness. Christ app[eared, as you know, to do away with sins, and there is no sin in him. No man therefore who dwells in him is a sinner. The sinner has not seen and does not know him.

My children do not be mislead: it is the man who does what is right who is righteous; the man who sins is a child of the devil, for the devil has been a sinner from the first; and the Son of God appeared for the very purpose of undoing the devils work.

A child of God does not commit sin, because the Divine seed remains in him, he cannot be a sinner, because he is Gods child. That is the distinction between the children of God and the children of the devil; no one who does not do what is right is Gods child, nor is anyone who does not love his brother."

1 John 3:4-10

 

[hobelim]

And that's how everyone knows you are a fake. No one does God's will always.

Baloney.

You might not realize this but not sinning is as easy as not kneeling before a piece of bread. Or not bending over for a priest so he can enter your mind to defile and contaminate it with crap. Slut!

 

[hobelim]

Not according to Hobelim's theology. According to Hobelim's theology, you are an idolater and you are in hell already.

Exactly. You are dead and in hell for idolatry, a sin under penalty of death. It says so in the Bible, I smell the putrified flesh of unclean creatures dripping from your unclean lips so I'm a believer!

Can't you smell that smell?