What do you expect of Billionaires being the leaders?

[Luckyone]

Yeah, that's not MAGA. It's Make America Great for ME. For all of the cult.

Yeah, Make America Great Again is Trumps objective, no matter who gets hated along the way

 

[elektra]

You are entitled to your opinion. By the same token, you live in your own fantasy world and there your opinion is the only one that counts.

Yes, projecting is nice. It is not an opinion I state. It is fact, you have no idea what type of person President Trump, is.

Opinions, your opinion would give us democrats, men fighting women in boxing, men swimming against girls in competition, drag queens teaching 5 year old.

Democrats and lousy independents claim that they want to be left alone yet they force perversion and immorality upon the entire population.

Empathy, I can say you express zero empathy, hence you are unable to post anything substantial or factual.

I don't post opinion, just facts. It is a fact that you supported the worst candidate for president. You support the democrats, that makes you a Democrat.

Democrats have no place in society

 

[elektra]

Yeah, Make America Great Again is Trumps objective, no matter who gets hated along the way

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No confederate flags and that MAGA man pointed his finger, that is assault, finger pointing is an insurrection, arrest him.

 

[Luckyone]

Yes, projecting is nice. It is not an opinion I state. It is fact, you have no idea what type of person President Trump, is.

Opinions, your opinion would give us democrats, men fighting women in boxing, men swimming against girls in competition, drag queens teaching 5 year old.

Democrats and lousy independents claim that they want to be left alone yet they force perversion and immorality upon the entire population.

Empathy, I can say you express zero empathy, hence you are unable to post anything substantial or factual.

I don't post opinion, just facts. It is a fact that you supported the worst candidate for president. You support the democrats, that makes you a Democrat.

Democrats have no place in society

Well, one thing for sure, we can see who you are. A person filled with hate.

 

[Stann]

Again, it would be impossible to be president if you actually didn't listen to torture advisers. I know what he says, but just think about ALL that comes with being president. From medical to military, to foreign policy. You could not do that job by "winging it"



That's the ego part I was talking about that comes with the job. Every president says this, they all say they are the only ones who can run the country. You have to be a pretty narcissistic person to believe that, and they all say it.

NO president has acted this CRAZY before. The man is insane !

 

[Mac1958]

Trump is always better than anyone else.

yikes

There ya go.

 

[sealybobo]

I truly have a question that I would like to discuss. It is more of a general question but it does apply now.

What do you expect from Billionaires that are leaders, especially those that grew up in wealthy homes having everything they needed from the get go? Do you expect them to understand the travails, obstacles, hardships, needs of the middle and poor class? Be able to relate empathize to them in a way that is real?

In the case of Trump and of Musk, these are two leaders that were born rich and never had to experience the travails of a poor man or even of the middle class person. Can such a person understand and feel what the poor and middle class person had to go through to pay their bills, take care of their family, make sure there was food on the table, that they had health insurance and that the medical bills got paid? Did they ever have to experience racism, bullying, injustice, and life's pain as they grew up? Ever have to have 2 or 3 jobs just to make ends meet?

I want to now talk history and about some of the great leaders history has brought us.

Here are 5 that I found on Google

1) Mahatma Gandhi
2) Martin Luther King Jr.
3) Abraham Lincoln
4) Nelson Mandela
5) Winston Churchill

Did any of these people come from wealthy families? were they wealthy themselves? No, they weren't!

On the other side of the coin, here are 4 leaders that were among the richest of all time and see the havoc they wrought on their people

1) Augustus Caesar
2) Cosimo de Medici
3) Mansa Musa
4) Genghis Khan

I am not saying that wealthiness prevents someone from being a great leader, given that JF Kennedy was born to a rich family and was rich himself and was a good president. Nonetheless, there are several things that are "rarely" taught in rich families that are necessary ingredients that a leader must have. They are:

1. Character and Integrity: Great leaders have unwavering character and integrity. They stick to their values and principles even when the decision is tough. Leaders like Mahatma Gandhi and Abraham Lincoln exemplified this and led their followers with honesty and moral courage.
2. Vision and Strategy: A great leader has a clear vision for the future and the strategic thinking to make it happen. Jeff Bezos, for example, has disrupted the retail industry with his long-term view and innovative strategies at Amazon.
3. Empathy and Emotional Intelligence: Leaders who understand and connect with their followers’ emotions can inspire and motivate like no one else. Martin Luther King Jr.’s empathetic approach and communication skills were key to the civil rights movement.
4. Resilience and Perseverance: Great leadership requires the ability to withstand tough times and persevere through adversity. Nelson Mandela’s commitment to justice and equality despite decades of imprisonment shows incredible resilience.
5. Impact and Legacy: Ultimately, a leader’s greatness is measured by the impact they have on their organization, community, or the world. The greatest leaders leave a legacy that continues to inspire and influence long after they are gone.

Of these 5 attributes, there are two that neither Trump nor Musk possess and that is Character and Integrity and Empathy and Emotional Intelligence. Without those two, the leader is very limited in what he will be able to accomplish "for the people"

As such, my view is that these two leaders we now have cannot become great for our nation. Having said that, I want to hear your views but your views need to be based on the fact that both of these men were born to wealthy families and never had to go through what you and I went through. How can they empathize with us without having some personal benefit to themselves as first priority? Have money, fame and power as their top priority?

This all started with Reagan. Trickle down.

ol·i·gar·chy

a small group of people having control of a country, organization, or institution

Bernie Sanders is right. We need to do away with Citizens United

This needs to be the new Democratic party. Republicans won't produce meaningful results for the middle class, all while saying they have. Democrats need to fight for workers. But first let Republicans attack unions. Unions need to feel the pain of voting GOP. They are STUPID. After hearing Trump and Elon talk about firing workers who go on strike. God are they dumb.

The Democrats don't need to change as much as you think. The voters do. They need to wake the fuck up.

But we could be wrong. Trump might do great. Let's wait and see.

 

[Stann]

yikes

There ya go.

She is a verifiable cult member. No one else would say such a thing. She really believes that. Sad , very sad.

 

[Stann]

This all started with Reagan. Trickle down.

ol·i·gar·chy

a small group of people having control of a country, organization, or institution

Bernie Sanders is right. We need to do away with Citizens United

This needs to be the new Democratic party. Republicans won't produce meaningful results for the middle class, all while saying they have. Democrats need to fight for workers. But first let Republicans attack unions. Unions need to feel the pain of voting GOP. They are STUPID. After hearing Trump and Elon talk about firing workers who go on strike. God are they dumb.

The Democrats don't need to change as much as you think. The voters do. They need to wake the fuck up.

But we could be wrong. Trump might do great. Let's wait and see.

I'm not waiting until he destroys social security. Or attacks women more
Or gays. Or gives the Ukraine to Russia. Etc. etc.

 

[Mac1958]

She is a verifiable cult member. No one else would say such a thing. She really believes that. Sad , very sad.

It's a group pathology, and the group is not small.

As I always say, the world has seen this before.

 

[sartre play]

So you deny the IRS hired agents!!!

In May 2021, the Biden administration approved hiring 87,000 new Internal Revenue Service employees by 2031, but only a fraction are agents, and the majority are filling expected vacancies.

Correct me if I AM wrong. The IRS has MAYBE enough employees to check the TAX paid by average working people.
Their taxes are relatively simple. DO NOT take a lot of time. They can find MOST of your mistakes. and bill you.
Huge money people large corporations Take lots and lots of time to CHECK.
THAT is suppose to be the reason for the increase.
What The IRS does DO is MOSTLY trust the accountancy to have done their job.
To scare the MONEY people, they bust ONE big name person every year & publish it to the max.

 

[sealybobo]

I'm not waiting until he destroys social security. Or attacks women more
Or gays. Or gives the Ukraine to Russia. Etc. etc.

Nothing you can do about it. The American people have spoken. Let's talk in 2026. Midterms. As of right now, you live in Nazi Germany 1944 not 2024. LOL. If we are right about Trump.

Or I don't think he will be as bad as Hitler unless he gets the idea to take on the drug cartels in Mexico and ignites something like that and he takes that land. Not a bad idea. Could work. But isn't that what Hitler tried to do?

No, I don't think he will be Hitler. More like Putin. That means 2026 elections will be rigged and so will every other election moving forward. Republicans will rule for the next 8 years. Why 8? Bush 1 lost in 1992. This was the electoral map in 1984

The pendulum swings both ways.

 

[Stann]

Nothing you can do about it. The American people have spoken. Let's talk in 2026. Midterms. As of right now, you live in Nazi Germany 1944 not 2024. LOL. If we are right about Trump.

Or I don't think he will be as bad as Hitler unless he gets the idea to take on the drug cartels in Mexico and ignites something like that and he takes that land. Not a bad idea. Could work. But isn't that what Hitler tried to do?

No, I don't think he will be Hitler. More like Putin. That means 2026 elections will be rigged and so will every other election moving forward. Republicans will rule for the next 8 years. Why 8? Bush 1 lost in 1992. This was the electoral map in 1984

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The pendulum swings both ways.

If he goes completely fascist I believe he will be removed from office. Hopefully people aren't that insane to allow our country to become the enemy.

 

[Stann]

So you deny the IRS hired agents!!!

In May 2021, the Biden administration approved hiring 87,000 new Internal Revenue Service employees by 2031, but only a fraction are agents, and the majority are filling expected vacancies.

Badly needed, expanded economy requires more work done. More work = more workers.

 

[sealybobo]

If he goes completely fascist I believe he will be removed from office. Hopefully people aren't that insane to allow our country to become the enemy.

He's going to go senile like Reagan did. JD Vance will take over but lose when he runs because he's just not Trump.

 

[sartre play]

Billionaires who enter politics don't need the money obviously, so they do what's right for the country, and are not beholding to wealthy campaign donors who only want their own personal agendas passed.

IF only that were true.

 

[Luckyone]

This all started with Reagan. Trickle down.

ol·i·gar·chy

a small group of people having control of a country, organization, or institution

Bernie Sanders is right. We need to do away with Citizens United

This needs to be the new Democratic party. Republicans won't produce meaningful results for the middle class, all while saying they have. Democrats need to fight for workers. But first let Republicans attack unions. Unions need to feel the pain of voting GOP. They are STUPID. After hearing Trump and Elon talk about firing workers who go on strike. God are they dumb.

The Democrats don't need to change as much as you think. The voters do. They need to wake the fuck up.

But we could be wrong. Trump might do great. Let's wait and see.

One big problem with Trump's plans is not the plans themselves but the fact that he is incompetent and that is not going to change. A plan, even a good one, will do damage if not implemented competently by addressing the negatives in a way where the positives outweigh the negatives.

Trump has plans but he does not know how to execute them successfully. In such cases, this is why you have experts helping you to make the right decisions. Unfortunately for all of us is the fact that Trump does not listen to anyone's opinion (he believes he knows more than anyone else and the reality is that he doesn't) and that means the plans will be instituted but will fail and not fixed....ever. He will blame others but that will never fix the problem.

He will not be blamed but the problem will not be fixed and the blame game (and the hate associated with it) will grow. It will actually be Trump's fault but that will not change anything.

I can tell you that this is the actual problem that exists, without a shadow of a doubt.

 

[sealybobo]

One big problem with Trump's plans is not the plans themselves but the fact that he is incompetent and that is not going to change. A plan, even a good one, will do damage if not implemented competently by addressing the negatives in a way where the positives outweigh the negatives.

Trump has plans but he does not know how to execute them successfully. In such cases, this is why you have experts helping you to make the right decisions. Unfortunately for all of us is the fact that Trump does not listen to anyone's opinion (he believes he knows more than anyone else and the reality is that he doesn't) and that means the plans will be instituted but will fail and not fixed....ever. He will blame others but that will never fix the problem.

He will not be blamed but the problem will not be fixed and the blame game (and the hate associated with it) will grow. It will actually be Trump's fault but that will not change anything.

I can tell you that this is the actual problem that exists, without a shadow of a doubt.

Pentagon bracing for sweeping changes after Trump nominates Pete Hegseth for secretary​

 

[Robert W]

Badly needed, expanded economy requires more work done. More work = more workers.

There is a way to correct that. Change to a sales tax.

 

[Robert W]

Correct me if I AM wrong. The IRS has MAYBE enough employees to check the TAX paid by average working people.
Their taxes are relatively simple. DO NOT take a lot of time. They can find MOST of your mistakes. and bill you.
Huge money people large corporations Take lots and lots of time to CHECK.
THAT is suppose to be the reason for the increase.
What The IRS does DO is MOSTLY trust the accountancy to have done their job.
To scare the MONEY people, they bust ONE big name person every year & publish it to the max.

When the Government scares you over taxes, you know they are ruthless.