What did our founders really mean when they said “general welfare”?

[rightwinger]

The "General Welfare" clause is not direction to turn the US into a Socialist Shithole.

General Welfare is direction to do what needs to be done.

The scope is determined by We the People

Negative
You keep forgetting that pesky word GENERAL is the key piece to the puzzle.

general means overall welfare.
Nothing says any legislation has to help everyone the same. Just help the country as a whole

It doesn’t need to...GENERAL means general...Think GENERAL population.

I am
Helping the general population means help the country as a whole

Now you’re starting to get it.
All taxation monies spent (general welfare) by Father Government must benefit the nation in GENERAL....the GENERAL population. It’s the only thing that makes any sense to a sane mind.

It has to be for the good of the country.
A small program or expenditure that helps a small portion of the country still benefits the country as a whole.

Give me a specific example that you object to and I will respond

 

[BrokeLoser]

The "General Welfare" clause is not direction to turn the US into a Socialist Shithole.

General Welfare is direction to do what needs to be done.

The scope is determined by We the People

Negative
You keep forgetting that pesky word GENERAL is the key piece to the puzzle.

general means overall welfare.
Nothing says any legislation has to help everyone the same. Just help the country as a whole

It doesn’t need to...GENERAL means general...Think GENERAL population.

I am
Helping the general population means help the country as a whole

Now you’re starting to get it.
All taxation monies spent (general welfare) by Father Government must benefit the nation in GENERAL....the GENERAL population. It’s the only thing that makes any sense to a sane mind.

It has to be for the good of the country.
A small program or expenditure that helps a small portion of the country still benefits the country as a whole.

Give me a specific example that you object to and I will respond

I’ve asked you to show data that proves we benefit when Father Government forces us to pay/reward Guadalupe with a bonus each time she expands her forever growing litter of dependent parasites.
Can you do so now?

 

[rightwinger]

The "General Welfare" clause is not direction to turn the US into a Socialist Shithole.

General Welfare is direction to do what needs to be done.

The scope is determined by We the People

Negative
You keep forgetting that pesky word GENERAL is the key piece to the puzzle.

general means overall welfare.
Nothing says any legislation has to help everyone the same. Just help the country as a whole

It doesn’t need to...GENERAL means general...Think GENERAL population.

I am
Helping the general population means help the country as a whole

Now you’re starting to get it.
All taxation monies spent (general welfare) by Father Government must benefit the nation in GENERAL....the GENERAL population. It’s the only thing that makes any sense to a sane mind.

It has to be for the good of the country.
A small program or expenditure that helps a small portion of the country still benefits the country as a whole.

Give me a specific example that you object to and I will respond

I’ve asked you to show data that proves we benefit when Father Government forces us to pay/reward Guadalupe with a bonus each time she expands her forever growing litter of dependent parasites.
Can you do so now?

OK ....Good start

How does it help society by paying to support poor families?

Helps children ...We don’t want starving and homeless children in our society.
Our society does not want starving children begging for food.
We do not want children to have to resort to theft in order to eat

 

[danielpalos]

The "General Welfare" clause is not direction to turn the US into a Socialist Shithole.

General Welfare is direction to do what needs to be done.

The scope is determined by We the People

Negative
You keep forgetting that pesky word GENERAL is the key piece to the puzzle.

general means overall welfare.
Nothing says any legislation has to help everyone the same. Just help the country as a whole

It doesn’t need to...GENERAL means general...Think GENERAL population.

I am
Helping the general population means help the country as a whole

Wrong read the fucking founders on the Constitution. The ONLY power Congress has is that SPECIFICALLY listed in the Constitution.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises,

to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States;

but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

If any one of those powers is real then they must all be real.

 

[danielpalos]

The "General Welfare" clause is not direction to turn the US into a Socialist Shithole.

General Welfare is direction to do what needs to be done.

The scope is determined by We the People

Negative
You keep forgetting that pesky word GENERAL is the key piece to the puzzle.

general means overall welfare.
Nothing says any legislation has to help everyone the same. Just help the country as a whole

It doesn’t need to...GENERAL means general...Think GENERAL population.

I am
Helping the general population means help the country as a whole

Now you’re starting to get it.
All taxation monies spent (general welfare) by Father Government must benefit the nation in GENERAL....the GENERAL population. It’s the only thing that makes any sense to a sane mind.

All laws of a general nature shall have uniform operation.

 

[danielpalos]

If the general welfare meant what you lefty pukes claimed then there would have been no need to list specific powers of congress in the document and the 10th amendment would be useless.

It is a general power and was expressly explained and qualified by the particular powers. Our welfare clause Is General and must be able to come up with a solution to Any given contingency.

 

[danielpalos]

The "General Welfare" clause is not direction to turn the US into a Socialist Shithole.

General Welfare is direction to do what needs to be done.

The scope is determined by We the People

Negative
You keep forgetting that pesky word GENERAL is the key piece to the puzzle.

general means overall welfare.
Nothing says any legislation has to help everyone the same. Just help the country as a whole

It doesn’t need to...GENERAL means general...Think GENERAL population.

I am
Helping the general population means help the country as a whole

Wrong read the fucking founders on the Constitution. The ONLY power Congress has is that SPECIFICALLY listed in the Constitution.

Your wasting your time explaining the Constitution to these stupid uneducated Moon Bats.

They don't know any more about the Constitution than they know about History, Economics, Climate Science, Biology or Ethics.

All right wingers know how to do is lie to themselves and others.

 

[danielpalos]

The "General Welfare" clause is not direction to turn the US into a Socialist Shithole.

General Welfare is direction to do what needs to be done.

The scope is determined by We the People

Negative
You keep forgetting that pesky word GENERAL is the key piece to the puzzle.

general means overall welfare.
Nothing says any legislation has to help everyone the same. Just help the country as a whole

It doesn’t need to...GENERAL means general...Think GENERAL population.

I am
Helping the general population means help the country as a whole

Now you’re starting to get it.
All taxation monies spent (general welfare) by Father Government must benefit the nation in GENERAL....the GENERAL population. It’s the only thing that makes any sense to a sane mind.

It has to be for the good of the country.
A small program or expenditure that helps a small portion of the country still benefits the country as a whole.

Give me a specific example that you object to and I will respond

I’ve asked you to show data that proves we benefit when Father Government forces us to pay/reward Guadalupe with a bonus each time she expands her forever growing litter of dependent parasites.
Can you do so now?

Yet, right wingers whine about abortion. Congress has the power to fix Standards for the Union including defining official poverty and using funds to help mitigate it.

 

[Flash]

The "General Welfare" clause is not direction to turn the US into a Socialist Shithole.

General Welfare is direction to do what needs to be done.

The scope is determined by We the People

Negative
You keep forgetting that pesky word GENERAL is the key piece to the puzzle.

general means overall welfare.
Nothing says any legislation has to help everyone the same. Just help the country as a whole

It doesn’t need to...GENERAL means general...Think GENERAL population.

I am
Helping the general population means help the country as a whole

Now you’re starting to get it.
All taxation monies spent (general welfare) by Father Government must benefit the nation in GENERAL....the GENERAL population. It’s the only thing that makes any sense to a sane mind.

It has to be for the good of the country.
A small program or expenditure that helps a small portion of the country still benefits the country as a whole.

Give me a specific example that you object to and I will respond

I’ve asked you to show data that proves we benefit when Father Government forces us to pay/reward Guadalupe with a bonus each time she expands her forever growing litter of dependent parasites.
Can you do so now?

The Constitution also doesn't say a damn thing about giving Latasha and her nine illegimate pickinnies welfare either.

 

[rightwinger]

The "General Welfare" clause is not direction to turn the US into a Socialist Shithole.

General Welfare is direction to do what needs to be done.

The scope is determined by We the People

Negative
You keep forgetting that pesky word GENERAL is the key piece to the puzzle.

general means overall welfare.
Nothing says any legislation has to help everyone the same. Just help the country as a whole

It doesn’t need to...GENERAL means general...Think GENERAL population.

I am
Helping the general population means help the country as a whole

Now you’re starting to get it.
All taxation monies spent (general welfare) by Father Government must benefit the nation in GENERAL....the GENERAL population. It’s the only thing that makes any sense to a sane mind.

It has to be for the good of the country.
A small program or expenditure that helps a small portion of the country still benefits the country as a whole.

Give me a specific example that you object to and I will respond

I’ve asked you to show data that proves we benefit when Father Government forces us to pay/reward Guadalupe with a bonus each time she expands her forever growing litter of dependent parasites.
Can you do so now?

The Constitution also doesn't say a damn thing about giving Latasha and her nine illegimate pickinnies welfare either.

Says nothing about NASA either

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The "General Welfare" clause is not direction to turn the US into a Socialist Shithole.

General Welfare is direction to do what needs to be done.

The scope is determined by We the People

Negative
You keep forgetting that pesky word GENERAL is the key piece to the puzzle.

general means overall welfare.
Nothing says any legislation has to help everyone the same. Just help the country as a whole

It doesn’t need to...GENERAL means general...Think GENERAL population.

I am
Helping the general population means help the country as a whole

Now you’re starting to get it.
All taxation monies spent (general welfare) by Father Government must benefit the nation in GENERAL....the GENERAL population. It’s the only thing that makes any sense to a sane mind.

It has to be for the good of the country.
A small program or expenditure that helps a small portion of the country still benefits the country as a whole.

Give me a specific example that you object to and I will respond

I’ve asked you to show data that proves we benefit when Father Government forces us to pay/reward Guadalupe with a bonus each time she expands her forever growing litter of dependent parasites.
Can you do so now?

The Constitution also doesn't say a damn thing about giving Latasha and her nine illegimate pickinnies welfare either.

Says nothing about NASA either

Falls under science.

 

[rightwinger]

The "General Welfare" clause is not direction to turn the US into a Socialist Shithole.

General Welfare is direction to do what needs to be done.

The scope is determined by We the People

Negative
You keep forgetting that pesky word GENERAL is the key piece to the puzzle.

general means overall welfare.
Nothing says any legislation has to help everyone the same. Just help the country as a whole

It doesn’t need to...GENERAL means general...Think GENERAL population.

I am
Helping the general population means help the country as a whole

Now you’re starting to get it.
All taxation monies spent (general welfare) by Father Government must benefit the nation in GENERAL....the GENERAL population. It’s the only thing that makes any sense to a sane mind.

It has to be for the good of the country.
A small program or expenditure that helps a small portion of the country still benefits the country as a whole.

Give me a specific example that you object to and I will respond

I’ve asked you to show data that proves we benefit when Father Government forces us to pay/reward Guadalupe with a bonus each time she expands her forever growing litter of dependent parasites.
Can you do so now?

The Constitution also doesn't say a damn thing about giving Latasha and her nine illegimate pickinnies welfare either.

Says nothing about NASA either

Falls under science.

Where does the Constitution mention science?

The Constitution provides for a standing Navy but not a standing Army. Should we disband the Army and go back to State Milifias?

 

[danielpalos]

The "General Welfare" clause is not direction to turn the US into a Socialist Shithole.

General Welfare is direction to do what needs to be done.

The scope is determined by We the People

Negative
You keep forgetting that pesky word GENERAL is the key piece to the puzzle.

general means overall welfare.
Nothing says any legislation has to help everyone the same. Just help the country as a whole

It doesn’t need to...GENERAL means general...Think GENERAL population.

I am
Helping the general population means help the country as a whole

Now you’re starting to get it.
All taxation monies spent (general welfare) by Father Government must benefit the nation in GENERAL....the GENERAL population. It’s the only thing that makes any sense to a sane mind.

It has to be for the good of the country.
A small program or expenditure that helps a small portion of the country still benefits the country as a whole.

Give me a specific example that you object to and I will respond

I’ve asked you to show data that proves we benefit when Father Government forces us to pay/reward Guadalupe with a bonus each time she expands her forever growing litter of dependent parasites.
Can you do so now?

The Constitution also doesn't say a damn thing about giving Latasha and her nine illegimate pickinnies welfare either.

A promotion of the general welfare means providing for a solution for the general welfare.

 

[SavannahMann]

Before Republicans comment on such topics they need to catch up to reality.

Red states are economic basketcases for following failed conservative policies for the last 150 years.

Most of them are horribly polluted and dangerous to raise children in because of the nasty pollution.

Then there’s the lack of education.

In fact it’s so bad in so many red states that in the entire Appalachian area infant mortality rates are rising and life expectancy is falling.

Republican conservatism is not really a failed policy. It’s a disguised policy. The whole point of it is to fuk most Americans and everything they do is aimed at helping needy billionaires.

Your theory self destructs quickly though because Mexifornia is home to only 12% of the national population and 33% of the nations welfare filth. In case you didn’t know, Mexifornia is a blue state that operates solely on progressive ideals. Weird huh?

Really weird. Since California also pays the most in Federal Taxes, by a wide margin, and has the largest GDP, again by a wide margin.

Federal Tax Contribution by State: Which States Pay the Most

Which states pay the most in federal taxes? Explore data on tax contributions by state, how funds are allocated, and which states give more than they receive.

www.moneyrates.com

GDP by State 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

Yep...those rich, greedy capitalists you hate in Hollyweird and Silly Con Valley really dress up the spread sheets nicely for all the human cockroaches living in squalor don’t they?

They choose to live and work there. They choose to live and pay taxes there. They could move, but they don’t. They could relocate their businesses. And from time to time someone does. But the vast majority do not.

The Glock Store is in San Diego. You can get any part for your Glock you want there. But why stay in California? Perhaps they like it. Even so close to the border with the brown people you so detest.

My point is this. The numbers don’t lie. California in spite of all you hate about them has a vibrant and respectable economy.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The "General Welfare" clause is not direction to turn the US into a Socialist Shithole.

General Welfare is direction to do what needs to be done.

The scope is determined by We the People

Negative
You keep forgetting that pesky word GENERAL is the key piece to the puzzle.

general means overall welfare.
Nothing says any legislation has to help everyone the same. Just help the country as a whole

It doesn’t need to...GENERAL means general...Think GENERAL population.

I am
Helping the general population means help the country as a whole

Now you’re starting to get it.
All taxation monies spent (general welfare) by Father Government must benefit the nation in GENERAL....the GENERAL population. It’s the only thing that makes any sense to a sane mind.

It has to be for the good of the country.
A small program or expenditure that helps a small portion of the country still benefits the country as a whole.

Give me a specific example that you object to and I will respond

I’ve asked you to show data that proves we benefit when Father Government forces us to pay/reward Guadalupe with a bonus each time she expands her forever growing litter of dependent parasites.
Can you do so now?

The Constitution also doesn't say a damn thing about giving Latasha and her nine illegimate pickinnies welfare either.

Says nothing about NASA either

Falls under science.

Where does the Constitution mention science?

The Constitution provides for a standing Navy but not a standing Army. Should we disband the Army and go back to State Milifias?

no retard the constitution does not prohibit a standing army it just requires it be funded a new every 2 years,God you really are clueless on the constitution.

 

[danielpalos]

The "General Welfare" clause is not direction to turn the US into a Socialist Shithole.

General Welfare is direction to do what needs to be done.

The scope is determined by We the People

Negative
You keep forgetting that pesky word GENERAL is the key piece to the puzzle.

general means overall welfare.
Nothing says any legislation has to help everyone the same. Just help the country as a whole

It doesn’t need to...GENERAL means general...Think GENERAL population.

I am
Helping the general population means help the country as a whole

Now you’re starting to get it.
All taxation monies spent (general welfare) by Father Government must benefit the nation in GENERAL....the GENERAL population. It’s the only thing that makes any sense to a sane mind.

It has to be for the good of the country.
A small program or expenditure that helps a small portion of the country still benefits the country as a whole.

Give me a specific example that you object to and I will respond

I’ve asked you to show data that proves we benefit when Father Government forces us to pay/reward Guadalupe with a bonus each time she expands her forever growing litter of dependent parasites.
Can you do so now?

The Constitution also doesn't say a damn thing about giving Latasha and her nine illegimate pickinnies welfare either.

Says nothing about NASA either

Falls under science.

Where does the Constitution mention science?

The Constitution provides for a standing Navy but not a standing Army. Should we disband the Army and go back to State Milifias?

no retard the constitution does not prohibit a standing army it just requires it be funded a new every 2 years,God you really are clueless on the constitution.

There is a reason for that requirement.

That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.--Virginia State Constitution

 

[JustAGuy1]

If you voted for Trump there’s a good chance you’re a lot like me with regard to why....I voted for him on two policies almost exclusively...First and foremost on how he would deal with illegal Mexicans and the border and second on how he would yank lowlifes off the Democrat induced welfare plantation.
Anyhoo, as we approach the point where welfare reform will be visited I ask for your opinions on EXACTLY what you think our founders meant when they used the phrase “GENERAL WELFARE” in the constitution?

Attention all Smartest Guys In The Room, and legal scholars:
Please spare us the case citations such as the U.S. vs Butler case and the like. I’m interested in YOUR opinions.

Our welfare clause is general because it must be comprehensive enough to provide a general solution for any contingency. FDR proved this is the Case in our federal republic; thank Goodness FDR was a left winger.

I have to laugh at you Progs, everyone of you thinks that the 10th is the SUPREME amendment that supersedes all of the rest of them. Your ignorance is palpable.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The "General Welfare" clause is not direction to turn the US into a Socialist Shithole.

General Welfare is direction to do what needs to be done.

The scope is determined by We the People

Negative
You keep forgetting that pesky word GENERAL is the key piece to the puzzle.

general means overall welfare.
Nothing says any legislation has to help everyone the same. Just help the country as a whole

It doesn’t need to...GENERAL means general...Think GENERAL population.

I am
Helping the general population means help the country as a whole

Now you’re starting to get it.
All taxation monies spent (general welfare) by Father Government must benefit the nation in GENERAL....the GENERAL population. It’s the only thing that makes any sense to a sane mind.

It has to be for the good of the country.
A small program or expenditure that helps a small portion of the country still benefits the country as a whole.

Give me a specific example that you object to and I will respond

I’ve asked you to show data that proves we benefit when Father Government forces us to pay/reward Guadalupe with a bonus each time she expands her forever growing litter of dependent parasites.
Can you do so now?

The Constitution also doesn't say a damn thing about giving Latasha and her nine illegimate pickinnies welfare either.

Says nothing about NASA either

Falls under science.

Where does the Constitution mention science?

The Constitution provides for a standing Navy but not a standing Army. Should we disband the Army and go back to State Milifias?

no retard the constitution does not prohibit a standing army it just requires it be funded a new every 2 years,God you really are clueless on the constitution.

There is a reason for that requirement.

That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.--Virginia State Constitution

so now you care what the founders said but not in regards the powers of the legislature?

 

[danielpalos]

If you voted for Trump there’s a good chance you’re a lot like me with regard to why....I voted for him on two policies almost exclusively...First and foremost on how he would deal with illegal Mexicans and the border and second on how he would yank lowlifes off the Democrat induced welfare plantation.
Anyhoo, as we approach the point where welfare reform will be visited I ask for your opinions on EXACTLY what you think our founders meant when they used the phrase “GENERAL WELFARE” in the constitution?

Attention all Smartest Guys In The Room, and legal scholars:
Please spare us the case citations such as the U.S. vs Butler case and the like. I’m interested in YOUR opinions.

Our welfare clause is general because it must be comprehensive enough to provide a general solution for any contingency. FDR proved this is the Case in our federal republic; thank Goodness FDR was a left winger.

I have to laugh at you Progs, everyone of you thinks that the 10th is the SUPREME amendment that supersedes all of the rest of them. Your ignorance is palpable.

Not at all. That is just right wingers being clueless and Causeless. Our Tenth Amendment is supreme. You merely need to prove how any given policy does not promote and provide for the general welfare.

 

[danielpalos]

The "General Welfare" clause is not direction to turn the US into a Socialist Shithole.

General Welfare is direction to do what needs to be done.

The scope is determined by We the People

Negative
You keep forgetting that pesky word GENERAL is the key piece to the puzzle.

general means overall welfare.
Nothing says any legislation has to help everyone the same. Just help the country as a whole

It doesn’t need to...GENERAL means general...Think GENERAL population.

I am
Helping the general population means help the country as a whole

Now you’re starting to get it.
All taxation monies spent (general welfare) by Father Government must benefit the nation in GENERAL....the GENERAL population. It’s the only thing that makes any sense to a sane mind.

It has to be for the good of the country.
A small program or expenditure that helps a small portion of the country still benefits the country as a whole.

Give me a specific example that you object to and I will respond

I’ve asked you to show data that proves we benefit when Father Government forces us to pay/reward Guadalupe with a bonus each time she expands her forever growing litter of dependent parasites.
Can you do so now?

The Constitution also doesn't say a damn thing about giving Latasha and her nine illegimate pickinnies welfare either.

Says nothing about NASA either

Falls under science.

Where does the Constitution mention science?

The Constitution provides for a standing Navy but not a standing Army. Should we disband the Army and go back to State Milifias?

no retard the constitution does not prohibit a standing army it just requires it be funded a new every 2 years,God you really are clueless on the constitution.

There is a reason for that requirement.

That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.--Virginia State Constitution

so now you care what the founders said but not in regards the powers of the legislature?

Of course I do. We have a general welfare clause and a common defense clause. There is no general warfare clause nor any common offense clause. Why don't right wingers care about what our Founding Fathers actually expressed in our supreme law of the land?