What can republicans do for blacks?

[Timmy]

Yeah you're not a racist !!

No one is for police being killed . Can you not be against police brutality !? Like that's some outrageous stance !?

And don't be such a coward . You want to drop an n -bomb, do it the right way!

When police behave badly, they are arrested.... you didn't know that either, I see! Pathetic!

That's bullshit. The blue line covers itself. And that's the problem .

 

[amrchaos]

Perhaps a Republican president can PREVENT ILLEGALS, and muslim refugees from taking away whatever jobs are historically available to blacks. UNLESS you enjoy seeing the black unemployment continue to explode as HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of NON CITIZENS, take over the spot that was traditionally held by blacks.... let's face it, the DemocRATS want to kill as many blacks as they can with PLANNED PARENTHOOD, and REPLACE those beings with DUMBER and MORE EASILY manipulated ILLEGALS that their FREE SHIT and menial jobs can buy them!.... They see the handwritting on the wall as blacks realize that they are onlt USEFUL IDIOTS to DemocRATS!

Uhmm--we already had Reagan and two sets of Bushes. Same thing happened under those guys as it did under Clinton and Obama except

.....Amnesty happened under Reagan.

I just realized something. Besides tax cut, what do conservatives get from Republicans? Is it some kind of under the table benefit? I am asking because elected Republicans only seem to talk up a game and then fall flat on their face.

What do republicans at the national level accomplish?

Since the Manchurian muslim was elected, there has been NO DIFFERENCE between House and Senate Republicans and DemocRATS....that's why we need a Trump, or Carson to AT LEAST TRY to change the ONE PARTY system we have developed into! Look at the BILLS passed by the Congress since the Senate went Republican in January...EVERY ******* THING the piece of shit in the WH wanted was passed, where ALMOST everything that he wanted could have been stopped, or modified to NOT be as bad as they are.... the "BONER' and "***** MITCH" were just that, the obomanations bitches!

OK--I am trying to tie this to the op.

Is that why Republicans want the Black vote? How things are going, the Republican leadership is all but out the door. Conservatives need no help in turning the party into a pure philosophical based party.

I guess that leaves the party grip on power. Historically, it should gain more Congressional seats and the Oval office.

It seems like the only problem really facing the GOP is the change in leadership. That is going to happen even if Trump does not win the nomination.

 

[Vigilante]

Yeah you're not a racist !!

No one is for police being killed . Can you not be against police brutality !? Like that's some outrageous stance !?

And don't be such a coward . You want to drop an n -bomb, do it the right way!

When police behave badly, they are arrested.... you didn't know that either, I see! Pathetic!

That's bullshit. The blue line covers itself. And that's the problem .

Yes, with every scum bag out there with a CAMERA, they surely cover their own.... You really do have SHIT for brains!

 

[Rozman]

Why do blacks need to have stuff done for them?....

 

[Vigilante]

Perhaps a Republican president can PREVENT ILLEGALS, and muslim refugees from taking away whatever jobs are historically available to blacks. UNLESS you enjoy seeing the black unemployment continue to explode as HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of NON CITIZENS, take over the spot that was traditionally held by blacks.... let's face it, the DemocRATS want to kill as many blacks as they can with PLANNED PARENTHOOD, and REPLACE those beings with DUMBER and MORE EASILY manipulated ILLEGALS that their FREE SHIT and menial jobs can buy them!.... They see the handwritting on the wall as blacks realize that they are onlt USEFUL IDIOTS to DemocRATS!

Uhmm--we already had Reagan and two sets of Bushes. Same thing happened under those guys as it did under Clinton and Obama except

.....Amnesty happened under Reagan.

I just realized something. Besides tax cut, what do conservatives get from Republicans? Is it some kind of under the table benefit? I am asking because elected Republicans only seem to talk up a game and then fall flat on their face.

What do republicans at the national level accomplish?

Since the Manchurian muslim was elected, there has been NO DIFFERENCE between House and Senate Republicans and DemocRATS....that's why we need a Trump, or Carson to AT LEAST TRY to change the ONE PARTY system we have developed into! Look at the BILLS passed by the Congress since the Senate went Republican in January...EVERY ******* THING the piece of shit in the WH wanted was passed, where ALMOST everything that he wanted could have been stopped, or modified to NOT be as bad as they are.... the "BONER' and "***** MITCH" were just that, the obomanations bitches!

OK--I am trying to tie this to the op.

Is that why Republicans want the Black vote? How things are going, the Republican leadership is all but out the door. Conservatives need no help in turning the party into a pure philosophical based party.

I guess that leaves the party grip on power. Historically, it should gain more Congressional seats and the Oval office.

It seems like the only problem really facing the GOP is the change in leadership. That is going to happen even if Trump does not win the nomination.

Ryan is NOT a change in leadership! And thinking blacks have had 50+ years of DemocRAT promises that have NOT come to fruition! About time they start to understand!

 

[amrchaos]

Perhaps a Republican president can PREVENT ILLEGALS, and muslim refugees from taking away whatever jobs are historically available to blacks. UNLESS you enjoy seeing the black unemployment continue to explode as HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of NON CITIZENS, take over the spot that was traditionally held by blacks.... let's face it, the DemocRATS want to kill as many blacks as they can with PLANNED PARENTHOOD, and REPLACE those beings with DUMBER and MORE EASILY manipulated ILLEGALS that their FREE SHIT and menial jobs can buy them!.... They see the handwritting on the wall as blacks realize that they are onlt USEFUL IDIOTS to DemocRATS!

Uhmm--we already had Reagan and two sets of Bushes. Same thing happened under those guys as it did under Clinton and Obama except

.....Amnesty happened under Reagan.

I just realized something. Besides tax cut, what do conservatives get from Republicans? Is it some kind of under the table benefit? I am asking because elected Republicans only seem to talk up a game and then fall flat on their face.

What do republicans at the national level accomplish?

Since the Manchurian muslim was elected, there has been NO DIFFERENCE between House and Senate Republicans and DemocRATS....that's why we need a Trump, or Carson to AT LEAST TRY to change the ONE PARTY system we have developed into! Look at the BILLS passed by the Congress since the Senate went Republican in January...EVERY ******* THING the piece of shit in the WH wanted was passed, where ALMOST everything that he wanted could have been stopped, or modified to NOT be as bad as they are.... the "BONER' and "***** MITCH" were just that, the obomanations bitches!

OK--I am trying to tie this to the op.

Is that why Republicans want the Black vote? How things are going, the Republican leadership is all but out the door. Conservatives need no help in turning the party into a pure philosophical based party.

I guess that leaves the party grip on power. Historically, it should gain more Congressional seats and the Oval office.

It seems like the only problem really facing the GOP is the change in leadership. That is going to happen even if Trump does not win the nomination.

Ryan is NOT a change in leadership! And thinking blacks have had 50+ years of DemocRAT promises that have NOT come to fruition! About time they start to understand!

Promise of not cutting benefits--or some promise that government programs will make you rich?

The first ones success were based on strawman tactics. The second one was never promised.

So that leaves the question --What "promises" are you talking about?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Why do blacks need to have stuff done for them?....

They don't. Most people don't. But like electricity, people choose the path of least resistance. I can work my tail off, have a family, and live in the suburbs. Or, I can sit home and do nothing but watch television, have a family, and live in the suburbs.

What's the choice here?

 

[Vigilante]

Making it relateable to the simply mind....

Angry black woman: Are you sayin' the Democratic Party don't care about the African-American community?

Sen. Jay Billington Bulworth: Isn't that OBVIOUS? You got half your kids are out of work and the other half are in jail. Do you see ANY Democrat doing anything about it? Certainly not me! So what're you gonna do, vote Republican? Come on! Come on, you're not gonna vote Republican! Let's call a spade a spade!

[Loud, angry booing]

Sen. Jay Billington Bulworth: I mean - come on! You can have a Billion Man March! If you don't put down that malt liquor and chicken wings, and get behind someone other than a running back who stabs his wife, you're NEVER gonna get rid of somebody like me!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yeah you're not a racist !!

No one is for police being killed . Can you not be against police brutality !? Like that's some outrageous stance !?

And don't be such a coward . You want to drop an n -bomb, do it the right way!

Yeah, nobody is for police getting killed. That's why liberals always side with the criminals instead of the police. Yeah, I know, it's common for liberals to side with evil, but some of these cases are more than clear cut.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Here's a thought . How about one of you righ wing nut jobs actually ask a black person what they think?

Or do you even know any?

Do you? It sure doesn't seem like it.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If Carson does not offer the things a voter wants, and Hillary does, then that vote more than likely goes to Hillary

If Hillary does not offer the things a voter wants, and Carson does, then that vote more than likely goes to Carson.

If neither do not offer the things a voter wants, and there is no third option, then that vote may not be cast, goes to the party the voter normally favors, or go to a third party vote, etc...other.

It is not hard to figure out. Of course two GOP narratives are in competition here--"Do Blacks vote for blacks based on their skin color?" versus "Do Blacks only vote for Democrats?"

most things arent black and white, no pun intended

black people vote for democrats first and black second, if a black person isnt running they'll stick with the white democrat

if a black democrat is running of course they will vote for a black dem over a black republican

dems have done a great job taking away a black conservatives right to even their own heritage and culture

Let me make sure I understand you correctly.

You are saying that in every election with a Democrat, Blacks always vote Democrat. Not just in national elections, every election with a democrat?

Is that one of the ideas I can draw from this?

Well.......how many black cities do you know of that have Republican leadership?

What's your point ?

How many cities have republican leadership? Where are these Utopias !?

Cities that have Republican leadership are usually the middle-class or upper-class suburbs. Name me one ghetto that is run by Republicans. The ten most dangerous cities to live in are all run by Democrats. Need the link, just ask.

 

[deltex1]

Here's a thought . How about one of you righ wing nut jobs actually ask a black person what they think?

Or do you even know any?

That wasn't a thought...that was a brain fart.

 

[Staidhup]

The question should be as it is for every American, what can you do for yourself without the government?

 

[Conservative65]

if criticism of carson was only due to disagreement over his policies there would be no need for the "sellout, uncle tom" slurs

it isnt hard to figure out

Who's calling him that ?!? Some fool on you tube .

You righties just make shit up.

There are some jackasses calling him racial slurs.

Who ?

Google "Ben Carson called Uncle Tom" and take a look.

Yeah but is it anyone of any significance ? Cause u can imagine what people call Obama online .

Some even challenge his birth record, and some of those are leaders in the GOP race ! Can u says the same about dem leaders and Carson? I don't think so !

So F off with this dem "Uncle Tom " bullshit .

"Cause u can imagine what people call Obama online"

To use what you said, yeah but is it anyone of significance. That's your problem boy. A random person calling Ben Carson an Uncle Tom is something you brush off. However, let some random person call Obama a ****** and people like you are all over how that is significant.

When you can enforce your DEMAND, I'll do it. Just like the rest of you who have made such demands, I doubt you can even if you are stupid enough to try.

 

[regent]

The question should be as it is for every American, what can you do for yourself without the government?

Robinson Caruso survived without government and then Friday appeared and bingo they had government.

 

[Correll]

So is illegitimacy related to poverty and is poverty related to education?

illegitimacy causes poverty and harms education.

Meanwhile we've spend 50 years trying to treat the symptoms while even discussing the disease was taboo.

Naturally we have failed.

Believe it or not there are many others working on the problem today and some insight is being produced. Perhaps the first hurdle is convincing the American people that the failure to educate our poverty-young, black and white equally, is an American problem.

No, the first hurdle is being brave enough to honestly address the cause of the problem despite the inevitable cries of "racism".

The primary cause is Illegitimacy.

Any approach that can improve numbers for blacks without addressing the actual cause of the problem would do FAR more if combined with any reduction in Illegitimacy.

 

[Correll]

You all don't get it . Blacks don't like the GOP because the GOP is the party of racists . End of story .

Dumbass.

 

[Correll]

It is a great irony that replies to my posts are examples of the very thing the articles are about. Racist thoughts have gone so deep inside the person they fail even to consider alternative views. Repeating the racist dog whistles as if it were a valid reply shows how unconscious some have become in America. Check out 'Convict Leasing' in the book linked in my earlier post. Learn a bit.

Additional point from another source.

"Gingrich, of course, denied this, offering “a bromide on the value of hard work” which was met with applause by the audience. Stanley writes: “Williams followed up by pointing out to Gingrich that expressions such as ‘lacking work ethic’ were associated with negative racial stereotypes…and it was disingenuous for Gingrich to deny them. The audience loudly booed Williams’s response.” In other words, “lacking a work ethic” is code for “lazy blacks,” just like “food stamps” or “welfare queens.” In 2012, you don’t need to say, “Negroes are shiftless freeloaders” to tap into the racist ideology of a portion of the audience. You just need to use the right code words."

Not Your Grandfather's Philosophy - New Rambler Review

Seen original posts:

What can republicans do for blacks? | Page 25 | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Dog whistle is code for, we are out of real racism, but don't dare admit that.

So let's make up some crap.

 

[Correll]

"...Ideology makes men fight for their servitude as stubbornly as though it were their salvation." Deleuze / Guattari

You know you have succeeded when black is white and white is black. The man reminds one of the apologetics of victims of all sort. It is either I deserve this treatment or the treatment means something else. Human psychology is fascinating and bizarre.

"The White Man's Party"

"....Hardcore racism showed white supremacy in disquieting detail. In contrast, the new soft porn racism hid any direct references to race, even as it continued to trade on racial stimulation. As a contemporary of Wallace marveled, "he can use all the other issues - law and order, running your own schools, protecting property rights - and never mention race. But people will know he's telling them 'a ******'s trying to get your job, trying to move into your neighborhood.' What Wallace is doing is talking to them in a kind of shorthand, a kind of code.?"

Finally, a third bolt of lightening struck Wallace: he could be the one! The governor's mansion in Montgomery need not represent his final destination. He could ride the train of revamped race-baiting all the way to the White House. Wallace ran for president as a third- party candidate in 1964, and then again in 1968, 1972, and 1976. It's his 1968 campaign that most concerns us, for there Wallace ran against a consummate politician who was quick to appreciate, and adopt, Wallace's refashioned racial demagoguery: Richard Nixon. We'll turn to the Wallace-Nixon race soon, but first, another set of weathered bones must be excavated-the remains of Barry Goldwater.

• THE RISE OF RACIALLY IDENTIFIED PARTIES

The Republican Party today, in its voters and in its elected officials, is almost all white. But it wasn't always like that. Indeed, in the decades immediately before 1964, neither party was racially identified in the eyes of the American public. Even as the Democratic Party on the national level increasingly embraced civil rights, partly as a way to capture the growing political power of blacks who had migrated to Northern cities, Southern Democrats-like George Wallace remained staunch defenders of Jim Crow. Meanwhile, among Republicans, the racial antipathies of the rightwing found little favor among many party leaders." To take an important example, Brown and its desegregation imperative were backed by Republicans: Chief Justice Earl Warren, who wrote the opinion, was a Republican, and the first troops ordered into the South in 1957 to protect black students attempting to integrate a white school were sent there by the Republican administration of Dwight Eisenhower and his vice president, Richard Nixon. Reflecting the roughly equal commitment of both parties to racial progress, even as late as 1962, the public perceived Republicans and Democrats to be similarly committed to racial justice. In that year, when asked which party "is more likely to see that Negroes get fair treatment in jobs and housing:' 22.7 percent of the public said Democrats and 21.3 percent said Republicans, while over half could perceive no difference between the two.

"The 1964 presidential election marked the beginning of the realignment we live with today. Where in 1962 both parties were perceived as equally, if tepidly, supportive of civil rights, two years later 60 percent of the public identified Democrats as more likely to pursue fair treatment, versus only 7 percent who so identified the Republican Party." What happened?

Groundwork for the shift was laid in the run-up to the 1964 election by rightwing elements in the Republican Party, which gained momentum from the loss of the then-moderate Nixon to John F. Kennedy in 1960. This faction of the party had never stopped warring against the New Deal. Its standard bearer was Barry Goldwater, a senator from Arizona and heir to a department store fortune. His pampered upbringing and wealth notwithstanding,. Goldwater affected a cowboy's rough-and-tumble persona in his dress and speech, casting himself as a walking embodiment of the Marlboro Man's disdain for the nanny state. Goldwater and the reactionary stalwarts who rallied to him saw the Democratic Party as a mortal threat to the nation: domestically, because of the corrupting influence of a powerful central government deeply involved in regulating the marketplace and using taxes to reallocate wealth downward, and abroad in its willingness to compromise with communist countries instead of going to war against them. Goldwater himself though, was no racial throwback.' For instance, in 1957 and again in 1960 he voted in favor of federal civil rights legislation. By 1961, however, Goldwater and his partisans had become convinced that the key to electoral success lay in gaining ground in the South, and that in turn required appealing to racist sentiments in white voters, even at the cost of black support. As Goldwater drawled, "We're not going to get the Negro vote as a bloc in 1964 and 1968, so we ought to go hunting where the ducks are.?"

This racial plan riled more moderate members of the Republican establishment, such as New York senator Jacob Javits, who in the fall of 1963 may have been the first to refer to a "Southern Strategy" in the context of repudiating it." By then, however, the right wing of the party had won out. As the conservative journalist Robert Novak reported after attending a meeting of the Republican National Committee in Denver during the summer of 1963: "A good many, perhaps a majority of the party's leadership, envision substantial political gold to be mined in the racial crisis by becoming in fact, though not in name, the White Man's Party. 'Remember: one astute party worker said quietly ... 'this isn't South Africa. The white man outnumbers the Negro 9 to 1 in this country,"?" The rise of a racially-identified GOP is not a tale of latent bigotry in that party. It is instead a story centered on the strategic decision to use racism to become "the White Man's Party." p17-18 'Dog Whistle Politics: How Coded Racial Appeals Have Reinvented Racism and Wrecked the Middle Class' by Ian Haney López, Oxford

The book is about today and how we got to today. But history and even reality eludes the right wing in America. Check it out learn a bit.

Funny how the "WHite Man's" party only gets about 60% of the white vote.

Meanwhile the Dems get 95% of the Black VOte, and 70% of the Hispanic vote.

So what? I 60% of the white vote is a lot more than 95% of the Black vote. 60% of the white vote is more than the black and hispanic votes combined.

Yes, I am aware of that.

But none of that addressed my point, which was in response to midcan5.

 

[Correll]

They vote 95 % dem because they can't stand GOP racism. GOP can't accept that because they think they are infallible .

so they vote for near genocidal liberal Democratic programs because Republicans are racist??

100% stupid??

Genocide ? Lol! You righties are delusional .

Think about it . What links Jews, Asians , Hispanics , blacks together? They are minorities and as such are very sensitive to racism . And they all lean towards democrat .

Explain why ?

ARe they sensitive to racism?

Or vulnerable to racial demagoguery from the LEft?