What can republicans do for blacks?

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Ask not what your country can do for you?

?

"Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."
John F Kennedy, 1961

"Ask not what you can do for your country, but what your country can do for you."
Liberal America, 2015

Also, corporate america, 2015, asks what their country can do for them. Constanly, even when they have so much money they hide it offshore. Those ten thousand lobbyists in D.C. is proof of that. The ratio's about twenty lobbyists per one US Congressmen and Senator.
Lobbying | OpenSecrets

Of course they hide it. It's their money--not the governments. Wouldn't you hide it too? I would.

When I leave my house in the morning, I lock my door on the way out. Why? Because I don't want anybody coming in while I'm not home and taking my property. It's my property. I worked for it.

exactly, the liberal idea is, you freely elect to pay Bill Gates $50 for software because it is worth it to you, then the govt says you paid to much, taxes Bill Gates the overage, and gives it back to you claiming to be your champion because you stupidly overpaid.

 

[rightwinger]

wrong.
nobody benefited more than blacks. Society suffered as a whole.

There are many more women than blacks

Before affirmative action, the only jobs open to women was teacher, nurse, secretary, beautician, cashier

If your wife or daughter is in any other field, you have benefitted from affirmative action

It is silly to assume that change only occurred as a result of Affirmative Action.

This is not 1950, and it would not be 1950 if AA was stillborn, or had been repealed sometime in the 80s.

By the time the 80's rolled around, AA was seriously questioned. If it was repealed then? That is a very good socio-political question to ask.

Would society rapidly turned into a meritocracy, or would workplace discrimination creep back in?

I think given the type of labor laws, the later would have occurred.

One could argue that bottom line is still the need to compete, making it difficult to justify hiring a less skilled worker just because you identify with them

You are forced to go with the best you can find so your business can survive. That is the case when businesses face stiff competition--more so during market downturns.

My experience in the workplace suggests otherwise, especially my time in management.

When I think of my various bosses, and trying to explain to them why I choose a less qualified white person over a more qualified or senior black person?

I find myself wondering how far my head would bounce after it was severed from my body.

That would depend on your Boss preferences.

When I was a supervisor, I would often look for the best suited for the job rather than the best qualified




.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Someone probably already said this, but what can Republicans do for blacks? Free them comes to mind.

Well that's our goal of course. Hard to do when Democrats keep promising them free stuff that keeps then in servitude.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Ask not what your country can do for you?

?

"Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."
John F Kennedy, 1961

"Ask not what you can do for your country, but what your country can do for you."
Liberal America, 2015

Also, corporate america, 2015, asks what their country can do for them. Constanly, even when they have so much money they hide it offshore. Those ten thousand lobbyists in D.C. is proof of that. The ratio's about twenty lobbyists per one US Congressmen and Senator.
Lobbying | OpenSecrets

Of course they hide it. It's their money--not the governments. Wouldn't you hide it too? I would.

When I leave my house in the morning, I lock my door on the way out. Why? Because I don't want anybody coming in while I'm not home and taking my property. It's my property. I worked for it.

exactly, the liberal idea is, you freely elect to pay Bill Gates $50 for software because it is worth it to you, then the govt says you paid to much, taxes Bill Gates the overage, and gives it back to you claiming to be your champion because you stupidly overpaid.

Even if you don't overpay, you still willingly transferred your wealth to the top.

We all do. Sometime this week, liberals and conservatives will transfer their wealth to the top 1%. We will buy that Microsoft program you speak of. We will purchase gasoline from those evil billionaire oil men. We will stop at McDonald's and pick up a happy meal from that billion dollar company. We will pay our cell phone bill to those rotten billionaires. But sometime this week, we will all do it.

 

[amrchaos]

If Conservatives had things their way, you would be explaining to your daughter how important it is to find a good husband

This is racist, or wrong?

Why?

Explaining to your daughter how important it is to find a good husband?

That is neither racist not wrong.

He nails nothing. Look, I just spent 5 minutes listening to this guy and I still don't see what Republicans will do.

do? give them their freedom of course. In the Republican 1950's black teenage unemployment was less than white teenage unemployment!! It was Ronald Reagan who said, "isn't welfare a kind of slavery."

Hate to tell you buddy, but you have to exchange something for a vote. No one is going to vote for you if you offer nothing.

Blacks are already free. You are trying to argue that voting Democrat is slavery. If that is the case, then your "gift" is the same as the third tier parties as well.

Why not argue Blacks should vote Green or Libertarian as well? Do they not gain the same "freedom" the Republicans offer? How is it different?

 

[Correll]

Are you only in favor of diversity because it is government policy?

If I had my way and such policy was reversed would you change your mind to conform to my policy?

You didn't answer....does your daughter plan on being a cashier in a supermarket? Maybe do nails in a beauty parlor?

I answered with a question.

I assume that your internal belief system is strong enough to survive the removal of government force if AA was repealed.

You would not revert to 1950s era hiring practices. Neither would I.

Neither would the vast majority of our fellow 21st century Americans.

Thus, my answer is no, there is no need to set such a low goal,

unless of course AA bars her from jobs and education so that a black or brown person could benefit.

Tell your daughter she could have aspired to someday be a secretary if it weren't for affirmative action

Also remind her that if her daddy's political policies were followed by our country, that secretary would be the best she could hope for

Your misunderstanding of modern Conservatism is to be expected based on the scientifically proven difficulty that Liberals have understanding others.

Yes, when the time comes I will certainly discuss the history of women's rights with her, including all that occurred before and without regard for AA.

If Conservatives had things their way, you would be explaining to your daughter how important it is to find a good husband

That is also very important to happiness.

Or do you think being alone or a single mom is equal to being a wife and mother?

Oh, that's right, you do.

How's that working out for you and your victims?

 

[Meathead]

If Conservatives had things their way, you would be explaining to your daughter how important it is to find a good husband

This is racist, or wrong?

Why?

Explaining to your daughter how important it is to find a good husband?

That is neither racist not wrong.

He nails nothing. Look, I just spent 5 minutes listening to this guy and I still don't see what Republicans will do.

do? give them their freedom of course. In the Republican 1950's black teenage unemployment was less than white teenage unemployment!! It was Ronald Reagan who said, "isn't welfare a kind of slavery."

Hate to tell you buddy, but you have to exchange something for a vote. No one is going to vote for you if you offer nothing.

Blacks are already free. You are trying to argue that voting Democrat is slavery. If that is the case, then your "gift" is the same as the third tier parties as well.

Why not argue Blacks should vote Green or Libertarian as well? Do they not gain the same "freedom" the Republicans offer? How is it different?

My question was to rightwinger. He seems to think that advising your children on who they marry is wrong.

 

[Correll]

Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion.

Can you support your position that social change only occurs from government policy or that if government force is removed, it reverts all the way back?

WIth anything that is NOT a logical fallacy?

Can you support your Monday morning quarterbacking that it would have happened anyway?

Women were stamped into certain roles in our society. Government forced change ....things have never been the same

Well, history was trending that way anyways.

Which is why you had support for such government policy anyways.

Do you really think that the men of 21st century American would or could put the women of 21st century American back into the 1950s Kitchen again?

Conservative men?

Yes

Do you have anything to base that on besides your self serving bias against Conservative men?

Their actions speak for themselves

What actions are those?

Not wanting women in combat?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If Conservatives had things their way, you would be explaining to your daughter how important it is to find a good husband

This is racist, or wrong?

Why?

Explaining to your daughter how important it is to find a good husband?

That is neither racist not wrong.

He nails nothing. Look, I just spent 5 minutes listening to this guy and I still don't see what Republicans will do.

do? give them their freedom of course. In the Republican 1950's black teenage unemployment was less than white teenage unemployment!! It was Ronald Reagan who said, "isn't welfare a kind of slavery."

Hate to tell you buddy, but you have to exchange something for a vote. No one is going to vote for you if you offer nothing.

Blacks are already free. You are trying to argue that voting Democrat is slavery. If that is the case, then your "gift" is the same as the third tier parties as well.

Why not argue Blacks should vote Green or Libertarian as well? Do they not gain the same "freedom" the Republicans offer? How is it different?

Republican is an actual party. Green and Libertarian are who people vote for when they're not going to vote for one of the major parties. They have no chance at winning anything.

 

[rightwinger]

You didn't answer....does your daughter plan on being a cashier in a supermarket? Maybe do nails in a beauty parlor?

I answered with a question.

I assume that your internal belief system is strong enough to survive the removal of government force if AA was repealed.

You would not revert to 1950s era hiring practices. Neither would I.

Neither would the vast majority of our fellow 21st century Americans.

Thus, my answer is no, there is no need to set such a low goal,

unless of course AA bars her from jobs and education so that a black or brown person could benefit.

Tell your daughter she could have aspired to someday be a secretary if it weren't for affirmative action

Also remind her that if her daddy's political policies were followed by our country, that secretary would be the best she could hope for

Your misunderstanding of modern Conservatism is to be expected based on the scientifically proven difficulty that Liberals have understanding others.

Yes, when the time comes I will certainly discuss the history of women's rights with her, including all that occurred before and without regard for AA.

If Conservatives had things their way, you would be explaining to your daughter how important it is to find a good husband

That is also very important to happiness.

Or do you think being alone or a single mom is equal to being a wife and mother?

Oh, that's right, you do.

How's that working out for you and your victims?

As a conservative, you can also explain how she should just ignore any suggestive comments in the workplace.

Just tell her how "Boys will be boys" works

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Blacks are already free. You are trying to argue that voting Democrat is slavery. If that is the case, then your "gift" is the same as the third tier parties as well.

Why not argue Blacks should vote Green or Libertarian as well? Do they not gain the same "freedom" the Republicans offer? How is it different?

dear, it does not matter how they gain their freedom the point is they are enslaved now on the govt welfare plantation thanks to scummy liberals!!

in 1950 black teen unemployment was less than teen white employment!!

 

[amrchaos]

If Conservatives had things their way, you would be explaining to your daughter how important it is to find a good husband

This is racist, or wrong?

Why?

Explaining to your daughter how important it is to find a good husband?

That is neither racist not wrong.

He nails nothing. Look, I just spent 5 minutes listening to this guy and I still don't see what Republicans will do.

do? give them their freedom of course. In the Republican 1950's black teenage unemployment was less than white teenage unemployment!! It was Ronald Reagan who said, "isn't welfare a kind of slavery."

Hate to tell you buddy, but you have to exchange something for a vote. No one is going to vote for you if you offer nothing.

Blacks are already free. You are trying to argue that voting Democrat is slavery. If that is the case, then your "gift" is the same as the third tier parties as well.

Why not argue Blacks should vote Green or Libertarian as well? Do they not gain the same "freedom" the Republicans offer? How is it different?

My question was to rightwinger. He seems to think that advising your children on who they marry is wrong.

Sorry, I was suppose to erase that response.

It carried over. I was trying my best to avoid that conversation as much as I could.

 

[rightwinger]

Can you support your Monday morning quarterbacking that it would have happened anyway?

Women were stamped into certain roles in our society. Government forced change ....things have never been the same

Well, history was trending that way anyways.

Which is why you had support for such government policy anyways.

Do you really think that the men of 21st century American would or could put the women of 21st century American back into the 1950s Kitchen again?

Conservative men?

Yes

Do you have anything to base that on besides your self serving bias against Conservative men?

Their actions speak for themselves

What actions are those?

Not wanting women in combat?

Not wanting women in the military at all. Remember how conservatives screamed over women in the service academies? Female pilots? Women on ships?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

If Conservatives had things their way, you would be explaining to your daughter how important it is to find a good husband

OMG!!! So in Nazi liberal America good spouses and good families don't matter!! No wonder blacks kids don't have fathers 75% of the time and prisons are filled with angry young men looking for the father they never had!!

Stupid is far too kind when describing a liberal.

 

[amrchaos]

If Conservatives had things their way, you would be explaining to your daughter how important it is to find a good husband

This is racist, or wrong?

Why?

Explaining to your daughter how important it is to find a good husband?

That is neither racist not wrong.

He nails nothing. Look, I just spent 5 minutes listening to this guy and I still don't see what Republicans will do.

do? give them their freedom of course. In the Republican 1950's black teenage unemployment was less than white teenage unemployment!! It was Ronald Reagan who said, "isn't welfare a kind of slavery."

Hate to tell you buddy, but you have to exchange something for a vote. No one is going to vote for you if you offer nothing.

Blacks are already free. You are trying to argue that voting Democrat is slavery. If that is the case, then your "gift" is the same as the third tier parties as well.

Why not argue Blacks should vote Green or Libertarian as well? Do they not gain the same "freedom" the Republicans offer? How is it different?

Republican is an actual party. Green and Libertarian are who people vote for when they're not going to vote for one of the major parties. They have no chance at winning anything.

They are parties still. They campaign, and even make campaign promises.


"They have no chance at winning anything." Yep. That is why they make the perfect other option. You are not going to gain anything from your vote by choosing them. How does that differ from voting for someone that offers nothing to begin with?

At least the Black voter is off the Democratic Plantation--Like Cynthia McKinney!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Well, history was trending that way anyways.

Which is why you had support for such government policy anyways.

Do you really think that the men of 21st century American would or could put the women of 21st century American back into the 1950s Kitchen again?

Conservative men?

Yes

Do you have anything to base that on besides your self serving bias against Conservative men?

Their actions speak for themselves

What actions are those?

Not wanting women in combat?

Not wanting women in the military at all. Remember how conservatives screamed over women in the service academies? Female pilots? Women on ships?

remember how conservatives screamed the destruction of the American family was important before liberals proceeded to destroy the American family. Now the prisons are full of kids who didn't have families. What is the lesson, liberal?

t

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If Conservatives had things their way, you would be explaining to your daughter how important it is to find a good husband

This is racist, or wrong?

Why?

Explaining to your daughter how important it is to find a good husband?

That is neither racist not wrong.

He nails nothing. Look, I just spent 5 minutes listening to this guy and I still don't see what Republicans will do.

do? give them their freedom of course. In the Republican 1950's black teenage unemployment was less than white teenage unemployment!! It was Ronald Reagan who said, "isn't welfare a kind of slavery."

Hate to tell you buddy, but you have to exchange something for a vote. No one is going to vote for you if you offer nothing.

Blacks are already free. You are trying to argue that voting Democrat is slavery. If that is the case, then your "gift" is the same as the third tier parties as well.

Why not argue Blacks should vote Green or Libertarian as well? Do they not gain the same "freedom" the Republicans offer? How is it different?

Republican is an actual party. Green and Libertarian are who people vote for when they're not going to vote for one of the major parties. They have no chance at winning anything.

They are parties still. They campaign, and even make campaign promises.


"They have no chance at winning anything." Yep. That is why they make the perfect other option. You are not going to gain anything from your vote by choosing them. How does that differ from voting for someone that offers nothing to begin with?

At least the Black voter is off the Democratic Plantation--Like Cynthia McKinney!

Black people (like any other people) are concerned about making their vote count. That's why we will always be a two party system. Why vote for a candidate that belongs to a party that has no chance at winning?

So even if we don't agree with everything our candidate has to say, we vote for them anyway even if a candidate from a secondary party holds values closer to ours.

For the most part, we don't vote our party or candidate in because we are so behind them, we vote to keep the other party or candidate out.

 

[rightwinger]

Conservative men?

Yes

Do you have anything to base that on besides your self serving bias against Conservative men?

Their actions speak for themselves

What actions are those?

Not wanting women in combat?

Not wanting women in the military at all. Remember how conservatives screamed over women in the service academies? Female pilots? Women on ships?

remember how conservatives screamed the destruction of the American family was important before liberals proceeded to destroy the American family. Now the prisons are full of kids who didn't have families. What is the lesson, liberal?

t

You mean that gay marriage thing?

You lost, get over it

 

[amrchaos]

If Conservatives had things their way, you would be explaining to your daughter how important it is to find a good husband

This is racist, or wrong?

Why?

Explaining to your daughter how important it is to find a good husband?

That is neither racist not wrong.

He nails nothing. Look, I just spent 5 minutes listening to this guy and I still don't see what Republicans will do.

do? give them their freedom of course. In the Republican 1950's black teenage unemployment was less than white teenage unemployment!! It was Ronald Reagan who said, "isn't welfare a kind of slavery."

Hate to tell you buddy, but you have to exchange something for a vote. No one is going to vote for you if you offer nothing.

Blacks are already free. You are trying to argue that voting Democrat is slavery. If that is the case, then your "gift" is the same as the third tier parties as well.

Why not argue Blacks should vote Green or Libertarian as well? Do they not gain the same "freedom" the Republicans offer? How is it different?

Republican is an actual party. Green and Libertarian are who people vote for when they're not going to vote for one of the major parties. They have no chance at winning anything.

They are parties still. They campaign, and even make campaign promises.


"They have no chance at winning anything." Yep. That is why they make the perfect other option. You are not going to gain anything from your vote by choosing them. How does that differ from voting for someone that offers nothing to begin with?

At least the Black voter is off the Democratic Plantation--Like Cynthia McKinney!

Black people (like any other people) are concerned about making their vote count. That's why we will always be a two party system. Why vote for a candidate that belongs to a party that has no chance at winning?

So even if we don't agree with everything our candidate has to say, we vote for them anyway even if a candidate from a secondary party holds values closer to ours.

For the most part, we don't vote our party or candidate in because we are so behind them, we vote to keep the other party or candidate out.

Normally true. But then there are times the party put up a total joke, or someone you voted for before that isn't what you want.

When that happens, the "other option" is the best option.

 

[Correll]

I answered with a question.

I assume that your internal belief system is strong enough to survive the removal of government force if AA was repealed.

You would not revert to 1950s era hiring practices. Neither would I.

Neither would the vast majority of our fellow 21st century Americans.

Thus, my answer is no, there is no need to set such a low goal,

unless of course AA bars her from jobs and education so that a black or brown person could benefit.

Tell your daughter she could have aspired to someday be a secretary if it weren't for affirmative action

Also remind her that if her daddy's political policies were followed by our country, that secretary would be the best she could hope for

Your misunderstanding of modern Conservatism is to be expected based on the scientifically proven difficulty that Liberals have understanding others.

Yes, when the time comes I will certainly discuss the history of women's rights with her, including all that occurred before and without regard for AA.

If Conservatives had things their way, you would be explaining to your daughter how important it is to find a good husband

That is also very important to happiness.

Or do you think being alone or a single mom is equal to being a wife and mother?

Oh, that's right, you do.

How's that working out for you and your victims?

As a conservative, you can also explain how she should just ignore any suggestive comments in the workplace.

Just tell her how "Boys will be boys" works

Doesn't sound like me, or any of the conservative men I know.

You libs love to discuss change. Yet you seem to be the one living in the past.

What's up with that?