Zone1 What are Your Deepest Confusions About God?

[zaangalewa]

No.

So why I am able to kill you when I change something 100 years before you was born so you never will be born? And why was nobody able to see your unborn soul 100 years before you was born? (And I speak here now not about meta-physics but about totally simple normal physics!).

 

[zaangalewa]

Then you need to read up. Start with the great apes.

Why thinks every idiot all others are greater idiots when they do not share the own opinion about meta-physics and physics? Meta-physics is by the way not half as weird as most atheists think. When we communicate about physics then we communicate in a meta-physical way about physics for example. I call this: "Mathematics is the spirituality of physics".

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So why I am able to kill you when I change something 100 years before you was born so you never will be born?

And if you went back 5 billion years and disrupted a gas cloud, our Sun would never have existed.

That doesn't then grant the Sun a magical soul.

Why thinks every idiot all others are greater idiots when they do not share the own opinion about meta-physics and physics?

Introspective self awareness.comes in degrees, in the animal.kingdom. You haven't addressed that fact.

 

[ding]

And if you went back 5 billion years and disrupted a gas cloud, our Sun would never have existed.

That would be a pretty neat trick. Anti-gravity machines?

That doesn't then grant the Sun a magical soul.

Why would anyone expect it would

 

[ding]

Introspective self awareness.comes in degrees, in the animal.kingdom. You haven't addressed that fact.

All living things interact with their environment. So, yes, there are varying degrees of awareness. But how many are aware that they are aware?

 

[frigidweirdo]

No, supernatural spirits...

Well this conversation seems to have concluded its slow death.

 

[kyzr]

Well this conversation seems to have concluded its slow death.

Yep, not sure how to prove spirits and God exist.

 

[zaangalewa]

And if you went back 5 billion years and disrupted a gas cloud, our Sun would never have existed.

Exactly. So something was about 5 billion years ago what is now something what you call "I". It exists a line of existence from this point to your current existence. And no Norne has cut this thread.

That doesn't then grant the Sun a magical soul.

What you not understand: The sun is you - you are the sun. Specially when you think about the magical life on Earth which is electromagnetic radiation from the sun. Somehow the sun is part of your body and deep inside you are just light flitting across cell walls.

Introspective self awareness.comes in degrees, in the animal.kingdom. You haven't addressed that fact.

I addressed it with: "That's nonsense" = This sentence makes not any sense.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Exactly. So something was about 5 billion years ago what is now something what you call "I". It exists a line of existence from this point to your current existence. And no Norne has cut this thread.

So what? Same is true for every molecule on the universe. When they form a star, it doesn't mean the star always existed.

I addressed it with: "That's nonsense" = This sentence makes not any sense.

No, that is you not addressing it and dodging it.

And no, you have no magical soul.

 

[zaangalewa]

So what? Same is true for every molecule on the universe.

Astonishing. An US-American who is able to think. From which molecule did you learn this?

When they form a star, it doesn't mean the star always existed.

But the future birth of the star always existed. That it really had happened but had perhaps not to happen has to do with something what we call "freedom" - in this case on a very low level of freedom. But believe it or not: Freedom and predestination do not automatically exclude each other. Our creator is a damn wise guy.

No, that is you not addressing it and dodging it.

Hmmm - thinking is a matter of luck.

And no, you have no magical soul.

Oh sorry. But you seem not to be competent in such questions, infidel. The best will be I will ask Alkuin after my death what he thinks about your hypothese here.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Astonishing. An US-American who is able to think. From which molecule did you learn this?



But the future birth of the star always existed. That it really had happened but had perhaps not to happen has to do with something what we call "freedom" - in this case on a very low level of freedom. But believe it or not: Freedom and predestination do not automatically exclude each other. Our creator is a damn wise guy.



Hmmm - thinking is a matter of luck.



Oh sorry. But you seem not to be competent in such questions, infidel. The best will be I will ask Alkuin after my death what he thinks about your hypothese here.

That's a lot of self soothing babble.

I didn't see any argument for the existence if magical human souls. Just a bunch of maturation.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yep, not sure how to prove spirits and God exist.

Because it cannot be done. Just as you can't prove rainbow unicorns exist in the 7th dimension. All of this embarrassing nonsense goes on the same shelf.

 

[BreezeWood]

Because it cannot be done. Just as you can't prove rainbow unicorns exist in the 7th dimension.

not true - with what does exist.

to be proven or not be proven - what guides physiology a metaphysical substance that dissipates into the atmosphere when its spiritual content is removed ... is not the same as proving a mythological unicorn.

 

[zaangalewa]

That's a lot of self soothing babble.

I didn't see any argument for the existence if magical human souls. Just a bunch of maturation.

No comment - except: The "brilliance" of US-American arguments in general is really fascinating. Germans have opinions on reason of arguments. US-Americans have arguments on reason of opinions.

 

[zaangalewa]

No, supernatural spirits..

The circle number "pi" is for example a "supernatural" spirit. Nowhere in the nature you will find a perfect circle. Nevertheless not to believe in a perfect circle would mean we had to live without natural science. Somehow a circle is for example part of the soul (=essential information) of the sun.

And depending on the complexity of living matter the degrees of freedom grow. Your are for example a telepath who reads my German thoughts in English thousands of miles far from me - although "I" am only some scribbles on the rectangle full of light in front of your eyes. If we were both wolves we would have to howl at the moon.

 

[zaangalewa]

Because it cannot be done. Just as you can't prove rainbow unicorns exist in the 7th dimension.

What's nonsense. But you can write a senseful story about rainbow unicorns in the 7th dimension. One of the unicorns there is by the way Jim, a very nice guy. But they all live in another universe - ortherwise we would have a problem. If a 4-dimensional sphere for example would cross our 3-dimenisional world in the 4th dimension in space then you could perhaps see something like a point coming from nowhere growing to a ball and shrinking and disappearing. Same would be with a 7th dimension. Never anyone saw such a phenomenon.

All of this embarrassing nonsense goes on the same shelf.

Not to believe in god not means not to have to believe in not-god. Sounds weird, isn't it? But is not weird. Other things which sound very plausible are on the other side indeed weird. A "white hole" as a counterpart of a black hole for example also never anyone saw. Exist white holes? Do they not exist? Not a question I am able to answer because of the complexity of such a "simple" question.

 

[kyzr]

The circle number "pi" is for example a "supernatural" spirit. Nowhere in the nature you will find a perfect circle. Nevertheless not to believe in a perfect circle would mean we had to live without natural science. Somehow a circle is for example part of the soul (=essential information) of the sun.

And depending on the complexity of living matter the degrees of freedom grow. Your are for example a telepath who reads my German thoughts in English thousands of miles far from me - although "I" am only some scribbles on the rectangle full of light in front of your eyes. If we were both wolves we would have to howl at the moon.

1. A perfect circle has no beginning and no end...
2. The test to select the artist to paint the Sistine Chapel was to draw a circle and a straight line. The thought being that God would guide his hand. The most accurate artist was awarded the job. The result was remarkable.
3. Your second paragraph reminds me that I'm watching way too many spy movies, I had to use my decipher. Your posts are more than scribbles, especially your German music videos. Anyway, I had a hard time trying to prove God exists to a denier. Spirit boxes are the only physical proof I could offer.
4. Here is a good video of what belief in God can lead to, both sides know they are fighting for God.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No comment - except: The "brilliance" of US-American arguments in general is really fascinating. Germans have opinions on reason of arguments. US-Americans have arguments on reason of opinions.

Empty babble


No argument for why magical human souls exist.

Yawn.

 

[zaangalewa]

1. A perfect circle has no beginning and no end...

What's nonsense.

2. The test to select the artist to paint the Sistine Chapel was to draw a circle and a straight line. The thought being that God would guide his hand. The most accurate artist was awarded the job. The result was remarkable.
3. Your second paragraph reminds me that I'm watching way too many spy movies, I had to use my decipher. Your posts are more than scribbles, especially your German music videos. Anyway, I had a hard time trying to prove God exists to a denier. Spirit boxes are the only physical proof I could offer.
4. Here is a good video of what belief in God can lead to, both sides know they are fighting for God.

Your prejudices about history are not history. Are you for example able to explain to me what chess could have to with the crusades?

 

[zaangalewa]

Empty babble


No argument for why magical human souls exist.

Yawn.

"No comment!" is for sure no argument. What do you understand when you say "magical human soul"?