What actions should be taken at the border in respect to the caravan arriving ?

[OldLady]

Process them by the law that was created by Congress on refugees or change the laws in Congress. That is the only choice..

No, we have a choice to threaten with sanctions the country of Mexico for not allowing them to take up asylum there, and instead facilitates their journey to our border.

The whole thing is a conspired plan by those within these other countries to bring hell to our doorstep every chance they get. Just as we are not to remain the policeman of the world, nor should we remain the ignorant caretakers of the world. We have enough problems of our own already.

Laws will need to be changed..

Laws get changed and then the courts in Hawaii or the 9th Circuit say you can't change the law!

You're whining. The laws passed by Congress tend to work. It is the half-assed ideas from Trump's bigoted brain that are getting shot down, for good reason.

 

[OldLady]

Debate !!

That’s a tough one-

On one hand, as the leader of the free world we need to extend ourselves to the less fortunate and spread the idea of freedom and liberty against tyranny, but on the other hand, if we allow these people to inundate across our borders we will encourage more people to come, and overwhelm our already stressed system of caring for those unwilling and incapable of caring for themselves.

I know this- if we allow anybody to walk in and tap in, our experiment will fail much sooner.

Your “experiment” has already failed. When the richest nation in the world turns its back humanitarian refugees, you have betrayed the very values you claim to hold dear.

When you do so because “you can’t afford it”, after giving away trillions of dollars in tax cuts to your wealthiest citizens and corporations, you are a hypocrite.

Your nation’s values are now personal greed and xenophobia.

Your WRONG! This country is still the greatest country on earth. Why else would we even be discussing how to manage ALL THE PEOPLE who want to come here. The fact that so many would risk so much to come here makes it obvious how great this country is.....obvious to everyone except the very stupid, like you.

Instead of ruining this country by coming here they should make their countries great by duplicating effort where they live.

If they had safe places to live and jobs to work, they no doubt would. Who willingly moves to a foreign country where you don't know the language and the customs and lifestyle are so different? Who would leave home if they didn't feel it was a desperate situation?
If the U.S. would spend a little attention on helping those Central American countries get stabilized and safe, it might solve the problem better, and be money better spent, than a wall.

 

[Mac1958]

Who willingly moves to a foreign country where you don't know the language and the customs and lifestyle are so different? Who would leave home if they didn't feel it was a desperate situation? If the U.S. would spend a little attention on helping those Central American countries get stabilized and safe, it might solve the problem better, and be money better spent, than a wall.

That's the core of the problem: People desperate to escape their hellhole countries. Without that, none of this would be an issue.

Neither "side" of this argument - for their own reasons - wants to address this obvious point. Why are we not holding the "leaders" (ha) of Mexico and South America responsible for the conditions in their countries? Why are we not having a continent-wide discussion about this?

Why are Mexico's "leaders" (ha) so proud to help their own people escape their country? Isn't that a fair question to ask them?
.

 

[Meathead]

1. Should they be allowed to cross into the United States ??

2. Why didn't they find refuge in Mexico ??

3. Should the national guard set temporary camps up that will feed them, vett them, and then turn them back into the direction from which they came ??

4. Should the nation listen to their stories all about the horrors in which they are fleeing from, and if believed, then go with them back to their country, make war with the forces within that country in which caused them to flee to begin with, and help to liberate their Homeland for their soon to be triumphant return ??

First-class tickets to the sanctuary city of their choice, free housing and food stamps, instant citizenship and automatic voter registration.

You have got this so screwed up. Poisonous.

1. Should they be allowed to cross into the United States ??

2. Why didn't they find refuge in Mexico ??

3. Should the national guard set temporary camps up that will feed them, vett them, and then turn them back into the direction from which they came ??

4. Should the nation listen to their stories all about the horrors in which they are fleeing from, and if believed, then go with them back to their country, make war with the forces within that country in which caused them to flee to begin with, and help to liberate their Homeland for their soon to be triumphant return ??

First-class tickets to the sanctuary city of their choice, free housing and food stamps, instant citizenship and automatic voter registration.

You have got this so screwed up. Poisonous.

Stop trolling me you prig.

 

[RodISHI]

Who willingly moves to a foreign country where you don't know the language and the customs and lifestyle are so different? Who would leave home if they didn't feel it was a desperate situation? If the U.S. would spend a little attention on helping those Central American countries get stabilized and safe, it might solve the problem better, and be money better spent, than a wall.

That's the core of the problem: People desperate to escape their hellhole countries. Without that, none of this would be an issue.

Neither "side" of this argument - for their own reasons - wants to address this obvious point. Why are we not holding the "leaders" (ha) of Mexico and South America responsible for the conditions in their countries? Why are we not having a continent-wide discussion about this?

Why are Mexico's "leaders" (ha) so proud to help their own people escape their country? Isn't that a fair question to ask them?
.

Don't you think maybe the people of those countries need to hold their leaders accountable first?

Debate !!

That’s a tough one-

On one hand, as the leader of the free world we need to extend ourselves to the less fortunate and spread the idea of freedom and liberty against tyranny, but on the other hand, if we allow these people to inundate across our borders we will encourage more people to come, and overwhelm our already stressed system of caring for those unwilling and incapable of caring for themselves.

I know this- if we allow anybody to walk in and tap in, our experiment will fail much sooner.

Your “experiment” has already failed. When the richest nation in the world turns its back humanitarian refugees, you have betrayed the very values you claim to hold dear.

When you do so because “you can’t afford it”, after giving away trillions of dollars in tax cuts to your wealthiest citizens and corporations, you are a hypocrite.

Your nation’s values are now personal greed and xenophobia.

Your WRONG! This country is still the greatest country on earth. Why else would we even be discussing how to manage ALL THE PEOPLE who want to come here. The fact that so many would risk so much to come here makes it obvious how great this country is.....obvious to everyone except the very stupid, like you.

Instead of ruining this country by coming here they should make their countries great by duplicating effort where they live.

If they had safe places to live and jobs to work, they no doubt would. Who willingly moves to a foreign country where you don't know the language and the customs and lifestyle are so different? Who would leave home if they didn't feel it was a desperate situation?
If the U.S. would spend a little attention on helping those Central American countries get stabilized and safe, it might solve the problem better, and be money better spent, than a wall.

"Attention"? Don't you mean take other peoples money and give it to them? What did Venezuela do to companies that moved down there? Oh' that's right they confiscated their facilities. You are free to take anything you personal own and all of what your little buds will give you and go right on down there and get started. What you are not free to do is demand that others give away what they own to meet your lofty dreams of making everyone equal by taking away from those who already have worked and have been blessed to born from those whose already built a more stabilized country.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

These people aren't refugees and have no fear of anything but their own people. They are gang members complaining about other gang members. They carry their gangs with them. That's why wherever they move becomes the same kind of shithole that they left.

 

[Aba Incieni]

Debate !!

That’s a tough one-

On one hand, as the leader of the free world we need to extend ourselves to the less fortunate and spread the idea of freedom and liberty against tyranny, but on the other hand, if we allow these people to inundate across our borders we will encourage more people to come, and overwhelm our already stressed system of caring for those unwilling and incapable of caring for themselves.

I know this- if we allow anybody to walk in and tap in, our experiment will fail much sooner.

Your “experiment” has already failed. When the richest nation in the world turns its back humanitarian refugees, you have betrayed the very values you claim to hold dear.

When you do so because “you can’t afford it”, after giving away trillions of dollars in tax cuts to your wealthiest citizens and corporations, you are a hypocrite.

Your nation’s values are now personal greed and xenophobia.

Your WRONG! This country is still the greatest country on earth. Why else would we even be discussing how to manage ALL THE PEOPLE who want to come here. The fact that so many would risk so much to come here makes it obvious how great this country is.....obvious to everyone except the very stupid, like you.

Instead of ruining this country by coming here they should make their countries great by duplicating effort where they live.

If they had safe places to live and jobs to work, they no doubt would. Who willingly moves to a foreign country where you don't know the language and the customs and lifestyle are so different? Who would leave home if they didn't feel it was a desperate situation?
If the U.S. would spend a little attention on helping those Central American countries get stabilized and safe, it might solve the problem better, and be money better spent, than a wall.

Relax. They have safe spaces to live. Mexico granted them asylum. They are safe from the dangers of their homelands.

 

[Mac1958]

Who willingly moves to a foreign country where you don't know the language and the customs and lifestyle are so different? Who would leave home if they didn't feel it was a desperate situation? If the U.S. would spend a little attention on helping those Central American countries get stabilized and safe, it might solve the problem better, and be money better spent, than a wall.

That's the core of the problem: People desperate to escape their hellhole countries. Without that, none of this would be an issue.

Neither "side" of this argument - for their own reasons - wants to address this obvious point. Why are we not holding the "leaders" (ha) of Mexico and South America responsible for the conditions in their countries? Why are we not having a continent-wide discussion about this?

Why are Mexico's "leaders" (ha) so proud to help their own people escape their country? Isn't that a fair question to ask them?
.

Don't you think maybe the people of those countries need to hold their leaders accountable first?

That’s a tough one-

On one hand, as the leader of the free world we need to extend ourselves to the less fortunate and spread the idea of freedom and liberty against tyranny, but on the other hand, if we allow these people to inundate across our borders we will encourage more people to come, and overwhelm our already stressed system of caring for those unwilling and incapable of caring for themselves.

I know this- if we allow anybody to walk in and tap in, our experiment will fail much sooner.

Your “experiment” has already failed. When the richest nation in the world turns its back humanitarian refugees, you have betrayed the very values you claim to hold dear.

When you do so because “you can’t afford it”, after giving away trillions of dollars in tax cuts to your wealthiest citizens and corporations, you are a hypocrite.

Your nation’s values are now personal greed and xenophobia.

Your WRONG! This country is still the greatest country on earth. Why else would we even be discussing how to manage ALL THE PEOPLE who want to come here. The fact that so many would risk so much to come here makes it obvious how great this country is.....obvious to everyone except the very stupid, like you.

Instead of ruining this country by coming here they should make their countries great by duplicating effort where they live.

If they had safe places to live and jobs to work, they no doubt would. Who willingly moves to a foreign country where you don't know the language and the customs and lifestyle are so different? Who would leave home if they didn't feel it was a desperate situation?
If the U.S. would spend a little attention on helping those Central American countries get stabilized and safe, it might solve the problem better, and be money better spent, than a wall.

"Attention"? Don't you mean take other peoples money and give it to them? What did Venezuela do to companies that moved down there? Oh' that's right they confiscated their facilities. You are free to take anything you personal own and all of what your little buds will give you and go right on down there and get started. What you are not free to do is demand that others give away what they own to meet your lofty dreams of making everyone equal by taking away from those who already have worked and have been blessed to born from those whose already built a more stabilized country.

Well, their people obviously are not holding them accountable. I suppose we can wait for that to happen, or we could try to get proactive for once.
.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

TBH.....

The nation as it was intended and known is no longer. Slowly morphing into a more European, diverse nation of mega self interest groups
Much of the USA no longer speaks English.
Many of the people who get in Congress are more inclined to look after their own or the the best interests of illegals FIRST
Congress has gone along with things such as The "Patriot Act" etc etc etc.....which are simply permissions to take away citizens rights.
There was no fucking TSA when I grew up. It's unnecessary. Just stop playing games with criminals and terrorists that cross the border.....but nooooo
I won't fly on Commercial airlines any longer.

Kinda thinking the USA deserves what it gets at this point.....open borders......fools

If a lot of people die and suffer....it's what was wanted and allowed....apparently.

You counted on laws and elected officials to keep you and the Constitution "safe".

Did that work out for you?

 

[OldLady]

Who willingly moves to a foreign country where you don't know the language and the customs and lifestyle are so different? Who would leave home if they didn't feel it was a desperate situation? If the U.S. would spend a little attention on helping those Central American countries get stabilized and safe, it might solve the problem better, and be money better spent, than a wall.

That's the core of the problem: People desperate to escape their hellhole countries. Without that, none of this would be an issue.

Neither "side" of this argument - for their own reasons - wants to address this obvious point. Why are we not holding the "leaders" (ha) of Mexico and South America responsible for the conditions in their countries? Why are we not having a continent-wide discussion about this?

Why are Mexico's "leaders" (ha) so proud to help their own people escape their country? Isn't that a fair question to ask them?
.

I hear Mexico is pretty much run by the drug cartels right now. We had our own troubles with the mob for a long time; they were embedded everywhere, to the highest levels of government--and the corruption in Mexico is ten times worse, I hear.
Central America? Same. Trump likes playing hardball with everyone else--why not with them?

 

[OldLady]

That’s a tough one-

On one hand, as the leader of the free world we need to extend ourselves to the less fortunate and spread the idea of freedom and liberty against tyranny, but on the other hand, if we allow these people to inundate across our borders we will encourage more people to come, and overwhelm our already stressed system of caring for those unwilling and incapable of caring for themselves.

I know this- if we allow anybody to walk in and tap in, our experiment will fail much sooner.

Your “experiment” has already failed. When the richest nation in the world turns its back humanitarian refugees, you have betrayed the very values you claim to hold dear.

When you do so because “you can’t afford it”, after giving away trillions of dollars in tax cuts to your wealthiest citizens and corporations, you are a hypocrite.

Your nation’s values are now personal greed and xenophobia.

Your WRONG! This country is still the greatest country on earth. Why else would we even be discussing how to manage ALL THE PEOPLE who want to come here. The fact that so many would risk so much to come here makes it obvious how great this country is.....obvious to everyone except the very stupid, like you.

Instead of ruining this country by coming here they should make their countries great by duplicating effort where they live.

If they had safe places to live and jobs to work, they no doubt would. Who willingly moves to a foreign country where you don't know the language and the customs and lifestyle are so different? Who would leave home if they didn't feel it was a desperate situation?
If the U.S. would spend a little attention on helping those Central American countries get stabilized and safe, it might solve the problem better, and be money better spent, than a wall.

Relax. They have safe spaces to live. Mexico granted them asylum. They are safe from the dangers of their homelands.

Is that breaking news? I had not heard that. Link?

 

[Aba Incieni]

Who willingly moves to a foreign country where you don't know the language and the customs and lifestyle are so different? Who would leave home if they didn't feel it was a desperate situation? If the U.S. would spend a little attention on helping those Central American countries get stabilized and safe, it might solve the problem better, and be money better spent, than a wall.

That's the core of the problem: People desperate to escape their hellhole countries. Without that, none of this would be an issue.

Neither "side" of this argument - for their own reasons - wants to address this obvious point. Why are we not holding the "leaders" (ha) of Mexico and South America responsible for the conditions in their countries? Why are we not having a continent-wide discussion about this?

Why are Mexico's "leaders" (ha) so proud to help their own people escape their country? Isn't that a fair question to ask them?
.

I hear Mexico is pretty much run by the drug cartels right now. We had our own troubles with the mob for a long time; they were embedded everywhere, to the highest levels of government--and the corruption in Mexico is ten times worse, I hear.
Central America? Same. Trump likes playing hardball with everyone else--why not with them?

Did you not read? There are many countries where these people can flee their hardships. They have found one.

All you are concerned with is their safety, right? Then you can relax, they are safe.

 

[OldLady]

Who willingly moves to a foreign country where you don't know the language and the customs and lifestyle are so different? Who would leave home if they didn't feel it was a desperate situation? If the U.S. would spend a little attention on helping those Central American countries get stabilized and safe, it might solve the problem better, and be money better spent, than a wall.

That's the core of the problem: People desperate to escape their hellhole countries. Without that, none of this would be an issue.

Neither "side" of this argument - for their own reasons - wants to address this obvious point. Why are we not holding the "leaders" (ha) of Mexico and South America responsible for the conditions in their countries? Why are we not having a continent-wide discussion about this?

Why are Mexico's "leaders" (ha) so proud to help their own people escape their country? Isn't that a fair question to ask them?
.

Don't you think maybe the people of those countries need to hold their leaders accountable first?

That’s a tough one-

On one hand, as the leader of the free world we need to extend ourselves to the less fortunate and spread the idea of freedom and liberty against tyranny, but on the other hand, if we allow these people to inundate across our borders we will encourage more people to come, and overwhelm our already stressed system of caring for those unwilling and incapable of caring for themselves.

I know this- if we allow anybody to walk in and tap in, our experiment will fail much sooner.

Your “experiment” has already failed. When the richest nation in the world turns its back humanitarian refugees, you have betrayed the very values you claim to hold dear.

When you do so because “you can’t afford it”, after giving away trillions of dollars in tax cuts to your wealthiest citizens and corporations, you are a hypocrite.

Your nation’s values are now personal greed and xenophobia.

Your WRONG! This country is still the greatest country on earth. Why else would we even be discussing how to manage ALL THE PEOPLE who want to come here. The fact that so many would risk so much to come here makes it obvious how great this country is.....obvious to everyone except the very stupid, like you.

Instead of ruining this country by coming here they should make their countries great by duplicating effort where they live.

If they had safe places to live and jobs to work, they no doubt would. Who willingly moves to a foreign country where you don't know the language and the customs and lifestyle are so different? Who would leave home if they didn't feel it was a desperate situation?
If the U.S. would spend a little attention on helping those Central American countries get stabilized and safe, it might solve the problem better, and be money better spent, than a wall.

"Attention"? Don't you mean take other peoples money and give it to them? What did Venezuela do to companies that moved down there? Oh' that's right they confiscated their facilities. You are free to take anything you personal own and all of what your little buds will give you and go right on down there and get started. What you are not free to do is demand that others give away what they own to meet your lofty dreams of making everyone equal by taking away from those who already have worked and have been blessed to born from those whose already built a more stabilized country.

Sounds to me like you are being a stingy bitch. Which would make more sense? Spending 25 mil on a Wall to keep people out, or 25 mil to keep those people home? You choose.

 

[Mac1958]

Who willingly moves to a foreign country where you don't know the language and the customs and lifestyle are so different? Who would leave home if they didn't feel it was a desperate situation? If the U.S. would spend a little attention on helping those Central American countries get stabilized and safe, it might solve the problem better, and be money better spent, than a wall.

That's the core of the problem: People desperate to escape their hellhole countries. Without that, none of this would be an issue.

Neither "side" of this argument - for their own reasons - wants to address this obvious point. Why are we not holding the "leaders" (ha) of Mexico and South America responsible for the conditions in their countries? Why are we not having a continent-wide discussion about this?

Why are Mexico's "leaders" (ha) so proud to help their own people escape their country? Isn't that a fair question to ask them?
.

I hear Mexico is pretty much run by the drug cartels right now. We had our own troubles with the mob for a long time; they were embedded everywhere, to the highest levels of government--and the corruption in Mexico is ten times worse, I hear.
Central America? Same. Trump likes playing hardball with everyone else--why not with them?

I don't know. I think it's possible that he isn't even considering this point.

It appears he's thinking Mexico=Wall=Votes, and that's it.
.

 

[Aba Incieni]

Your “experiment” has already failed. When the richest nation in the world turns its back humanitarian refugees, you have betrayed the very values you claim to hold dear.

When you do so because “you can’t afford it”, after giving away trillions of dollars in tax cuts to your wealthiest citizens and corporations, you are a hypocrite.

Your nation’s values are now personal greed and xenophobia.

Your WRONG! This country is still the greatest country on earth. Why else would we even be discussing how to manage ALL THE PEOPLE who want to come here. The fact that so many would risk so much to come here makes it obvious how great this country is.....obvious to everyone except the very stupid, like you.

Instead of ruining this country by coming here they should make their countries great by duplicating effort where they live.

If they had safe places to live and jobs to work, they no doubt would. Who willingly moves to a foreign country where you don't know the language and the customs and lifestyle are so different? Who would leave home if they didn't feel it was a desperate situation?
If the U.S. would spend a little attention on helping those Central American countries get stabilized and safe, it might solve the problem better, and be money better spent, than a wall.

Relax. They have safe spaces to live. Mexico granted them asylum. They are safe from the dangers of their homelands.

Is that breaking news? I had not heard that. Link?

It's old news. Take your pick:

mexico grants asylum to caravan - Bing

 

[EvilCat Breath]

They are after the juicy benefits that they get when they come here. That's what they are really after. That, and easy pickings for criminal activity.

 

[OldLady]

1. Should they be allowed to cross into the United States ??

2. Why didn't they find refuge in Mexico ??

3. Should the national guard set temporary camps up that will feed them, vett them, and then turn them back into the direction from which they came ??

4. Should the nation listen to their stories all about the horrors in which they are fleeing from, and if believed, then go with them back to their country, make war with the forces within that country in which caused them to flee to begin with, and help to liberate their Homeland for their soon to be triumphant return ??

First-class tickets to the sanctuary city of their choice, free housing and food stamps, instant citizenship and automatic voter registration.

You have got this so screwed up. Poisonous.

1. Should they be allowed to cross into the United States ??

2. Why didn't they find refuge in Mexico ??

3. Should the national guard set temporary camps up that will feed them, vett them, and then turn them back into the direction from which they came ??

4. Should the nation listen to their stories all about the horrors in which they are fleeing from, and if believed, then go with them back to their country, make war with the forces within that country in which caused them to flee to begin with, and help to liberate their Homeland for their soon to be triumphant return ??

First-class tickets to the sanctuary city of their choice, free housing and food stamps, instant citizenship and automatic voter registration.

You have got this so screwed up. Poisonous.

Stop trolling me you prig.

If I were trolling you, you'd know it. Every single thing you are raising here as a specter of illegal immigration's faults is hyper exaggerated rumors from the Alt Right rumor mill. Get some learning around this before flapping your gums with all this hateful garbage.
Immigrants are here to work and to live in safety. What you envision is just not reality for the vast majority of people who come here from other countries.

 

[Slyhunter]

Your “experiment” has already failed. When the richest nation in the world turns its back humanitarian refugees, you have betrayed the very values you claim to hold dear.

When you do so because “you can’t afford it”, after giving away trillions of dollars in tax cuts to your wealthiest citizens and corporations, you are a hypocrite.

Your nation’s values are now personal greed and xenophobia.

Your WRONG! This country is still the greatest country on earth. Why else would we even be discussing how to manage ALL THE PEOPLE who want to come here. The fact that so many would risk so much to come here makes it obvious how great this country is.....obvious to everyone except the very stupid, like you.

Instead of ruining this country by coming here they should make their countries great by duplicating effort where they live.

Your assumption that refugees will “ruin this country by coming here” fairly reeks of racism and xenophobia.

My assumption is that they will flood the welfare system, lower wages, and make it harder for me and my family to survive in this country.

As with most assumptions it will be utterly false. 30% of all American citizens weren’t born in the US. They’re immigrants. And they’re not overwhelming the welfare system nor are they suppressing wages for American workers.

That you believe this is what happening, shows what a gullible idiot you are.

Of the legal immigrants you may be correct. What is missing is the stats for the illegal ones. And they are bearing children who collect welfare.

 

[OldLady]

Who willingly moves to a foreign country where you don't know the language and the customs and lifestyle are so different? Who would leave home if they didn't feel it was a desperate situation? If the U.S. would spend a little attention on helping those Central American countries get stabilized and safe, it might solve the problem better, and be money better spent, than a wall.

That's the core of the problem: People desperate to escape their hellhole countries. Without that, none of this would be an issue.

Neither "side" of this argument - for their own reasons - wants to address this obvious point. Why are we not holding the "leaders" (ha) of Mexico and South America responsible for the conditions in their countries? Why are we not having a continent-wide discussion about this?

Why are Mexico's "leaders" (ha) so proud to help their own people escape their country? Isn't that a fair question to ask them?
.

I hear Mexico is pretty much run by the drug cartels right now. We had our own troubles with the mob for a long time; they were embedded everywhere, to the highest levels of government--and the corruption in Mexico is ten times worse, I hear.
Central America? Same. Trump likes playing hardball with everyone else--why not with them?

Did you not read? There are many countries where these people can flee their hardships. They have found one.

All you are concerned with is their safety, right? Then you can relax, they are safe.

I am glad to get that news.

 

[Meathead]

1. Should they be allowed to cross into the United States ??

2. Why didn't they find refuge in Mexico ??

3. Should the national guard set temporary camps up that will feed them, vett them, and then turn them back into the direction from which they came ??

4. Should the nation listen to their stories all about the horrors in which they are fleeing from, and if believed, then go with them back to their country, make war with the forces within that country in which caused them to flee to begin with, and help to liberate their Homeland for their soon to be triumphant return ??

First-class tickets to the sanctuary city of their choice, free housing and food stamps, instant citizenship and automatic voter registration.

You have got this so screwed up. Poisonous.

1. Should they be allowed to cross into the United States ??

2. Why didn't they find refuge in Mexico ??

3. Should the national guard set temporary camps up that will feed them, vett them, and then turn them back into the direction from which they came ??

4. Should the nation listen to their stories all about the horrors in which they are fleeing from, and if believed, then go with them back to their country, make war with the forces within that country in which caused them to flee to begin with, and help to liberate their Homeland for their soon to be triumphant return ??

First-class tickets to the sanctuary city of their choice, free housing and food stamps, instant citizenship and automatic voter registration.

You have got this so screwed up. Poisonous.

Stop trolling me you prig.

If I were trolling you, you'd know it. Every single thing you are raising here as a specter of illegal immigration's faults is hyper exaggerated rumors from the Alt Right rumor mill. Get some learning around this before flapping your gums with all this hateful garbage.
Immigrants are here to work and to live in safety. What you envision is just not reality for the vast majority of people who come here from other countries.

We are discussing illegal immigrants who therefore unvetted. You are injecting all immigrants and dingbat platitudes into the discussion in a futile attempt dilute the problem. There are few things more annoying than a disingenuous prig.