We've reached level four. That isn't a good thing.

In your head, goof troop.
Go ahead and make your case that what Lincoln did around the time of the Civil War is analogous to what trump has done and is doing. As always, you will fail.

Authoritarians change election rules to help their party, and they rewrite laws — or violate their spirit — to ignore term limits.

Mr. Trump’s biggest attempt to follow this playbook failed, when he was unable to undo his election defeat to Joe Biden in 2020. But that effort showed Mr. Trump’s willingness to break the law to remain in power.

In his second term, he has shown worrisome signs of using his power to entrench the Republican Party’s hold on the government. He has pressed Republicans to take gerrymandering to a new extreme. He issued an executive order in March that seeks to interfere with how states run their elections. These moves increase the chances that Republicans will keep control of Congress even if most voters want to oust them.

Mr. Trump has not taken concrete steps to remain in power for a third term, which the 22nd Amendment of the Constitution was written to forbid. He has alternated between floating the idea and suggesting he understands that he must leave the presidency for good on Jan. 20, 2029.
 

Trump’s Stifling of Dissent Reaches a New Level

The crackdown on dissent and speech in Minnesota this winter follows a pattern that is common in countries that slide from democracy to autocracy: A leader enacts a legally dubious policy. Citizens protest that policy. The government responds with intimidation and force. When people are hurt, the government blames them and lies about what happened.

The New York Times editorial board published an index in October tracking 12 categories of democratic erosion, based on historical patterns and interviews with experts. Our index places the United States on a scale of 0 to 10 for each category. Zero represents the United States before President Trump began his second term — not perfect, surely, but one of the world’s healthiest democracies. Ten represents the condition in a true autocracy, such as China, Iran or Russia.

Based on recent events, we are moving our assessment of one of the categories — stifling speech and dissent — up one notch, to level four:

The wide-ranging abuses in Minnesota are the main reason for the change. The Trump administration is conducting a military-style operation in an American city under dubious pretenses.


The sister piece to this one with a link in the second paragraph is.............

Donald Trump has wielded power as no previous president has, often in open defiance of the law. His actions have raised a chilling question.

ARE WE LOSING OUR DEMOCRACY?

Countries that slide from democracy toward autocracy tend to follow similar patterns. To measure what is happening in the United States, the Times editorial board has compiled a list of 12 markers of democratic erosion, with help from scholars who have studied this phenomenon. The sobering reality is that the United States has regressed, to different degrees, on all 12.

Our country is still not close to being a true autocracy, in the mold of Russia or China. But once countries begin taking steps away from democracy, the march often continues. We offer these 12 markers as a warning of how much Americans have already lost and how much more we still could lose.


The other categories are as follows.
1. Persecuting political enemies. 5
2. Bypassing the legislature. 4
3. Defying the courts. 3 (That should be higher after the 100 times ICE defied court orders in MN)
4. Declaring false emergencies. 5
5. Using the military at home. 3
6. Vilifying marginalized groups. 6
7. Controlling information. 2
8. Trying to take over universities. 2
9. Creating a cult of personality. 6
10. Using power for personal profit. 7
Authoritarians often turn the government into a machine for enriching themselves, their families and their allies. Mr. Trump glories in his administration’s culture of corruption.

He openly uses the presidency as an opportunity to pad his bottom line, in ways that range from the comically petty (like charging the Secret Service up to $1,200 per night for rooms at his hotels) to the shamelessly greedy (like the $40 million that Amazon paid for the rights to a Melania Trump documentary or his recent demand that the government pay him $230 million because he was investigated for breaking the law). He solicits favors from foreign governments, including an airplane from Qatar. His children also profit from their father’s position, through real-estate deals, crypto, a private club in Washington and more. And he rewards those who enrich them, recently pardoning the head of a cryptocurrency firm who worked with the Trump family.

In the first six months of this year, the Trump Organization’s income soared to $864 million, up from just $51 million a year earlier, according to a recent Reuters analysis. It’s worth noting that recent Supreme Court decisions have made corruption harder to police.

11. Manipulating the law to stay in power. 2 (In other words, lawfare)

We can quibble about where the levels are set but not the facts underlying the concern. As difficult as it is, given our long history as a democratic republic, to grasp the full extent of the direction trump is taking us the evidence is indisputable. Though trump fans will no doubt employ all the tools of denial, false comparisons, and lies in an effort to credibly dispute it. They will fail.
You went into a church and Don Lemon was the victim. Demonic.
 
That is a disingenuous description of what happens to someone when they break multiple laws. They get investigated, they sometimes get indicted, and they go to trial. Except in this case trump was able to use his wealth, lawfare, and an election to escape going to trial for his most egregious crimes.
That explains why the Biden family wasnt prosecuted for money laundering bribery tax evasion and fraud
 
If enemy democrats can't beat or kill their opposition isn't democracy truly dead?
 
Go ahead and make your case that what Lincoln did around the time of the Civil War is analogous to what trump has done and is doing.
I never said that. Lincoln way wayyy worse.
Arrested people for no crimes with no due process. Even gave them trials in military court. He shut down media outlets. Arrested journalists. Suspension of HC. Declared war without congressional approval. He made an arrest warrant for a SC judge because he ruled lincoln acted unconstitutionally. He locked up a congressman for not agreeing with him. I have many more.
So spare me your ridiculous bullshit. Yes, trump is authoritarian. But he is nothing like lincoln. Hell, he isnt even an FDR.
You stupid, trump obsessed retards, think history started in 2016.
 
The wide-ranging abuses in Minnesota are the main reason for the change. The Trump administration is conducting a military-style operation in an American city under dubious pretenses.
TRANSLATION: "we need to draw minorities into this, Unless we make this about skin color white privilege will cease to exist as we know and dictate it...trump must be stopped!"
 
not perfect, surely, but one of the world’s healthiest democracies.
Not to hear the white liberals tell it, we were a sick failing discriminatory democracy according to white liberals...in fact we were constantly [hourly] reminded by them of how badly we needed to change our ways with the laughable placebo/panacea "studies show" to guide us out of our morass...you have only yourself to blame.
 
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I never said that. Lincoln way wayyy worse.
Arrested people for no crimes with no due process. Even gave them trials in military court. He shut down media outlets. Arrested journalists. Suspension of HC. Declared war without congressional approval. He made an arrest warrant for a SC judge because he ruled lincoln acted unconstitutionally. He locked up a congressman for not agreeing with him. I have many more.
So spare me your ridiculous bullshit. Yes, trump is authoritarian. But he is nothing like lincoln. Hell, he isnt even an FDR.
You stupid, trump obsessed retards, think history started in 2016.
You do know the Union was on a war footing with the Confederacy when Lincoln suspended habeas corpus, right? A unique situation when Lincoln was faced with what were considered traitors to the Union living in the North. It was what could be considered a legitimate emergency justifying everything up to a and including a declaration of martial law. Trump faces none of that. So spare me your ridiculous, bullshit, false analogy.
 
IF MN taught us anything it's like all bullies he will back down in the face of an overwhelming rejection of his brutal, illegal tactics. BUT, he thinks anything less gives him license to forge ahead.

Example, for all the media coverage of his grifting in order to enrich himself he has not stopped.

Trump's $10 billion lawsuit against the IRS raises conflict of interest concerns​

and yet, ICE is still there, still making arrests, and still taking away all those goons you so love.
 
You do know the Union was on a war footing with the Confederacy when Lincoln suspended habeas corpus, right? A unique situation when Lincoln was faced with what were considered traitors to the Union living in the North. It was what could be considered a legitimate emergency justifying everything up to a and including a declaration of martial law. Trump faces none of that. So spare me your ridiculous, bullshit, false analogy.
And you justify him giving himself all kinds of power. LOL
 
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