Western leaders worried as China joins Russia in NATO expansion row

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Western leaders on Saturday said Russia and China were seeking to "replace the existing international rules" with their own order, as Beijing backed Moscow in the Kremlin's showdown with the western military alliance, NATO.

US President Joe Biden has warned that Vladimir Putin plans an invasion of former Soviet state, Ukraine, within days.

Moscow is using the threat against Ukraine to demand a halt to NATO expansion and what it calls "Cold War" ideologies.

"For the first time we now see Beijing joining Moscow in calling on NATO to stop admitting new members," noted the alliance's chief Jens Stoltenberg, speaking at the Munich Security Conference.

"It is an attempt to control the fate of free nations, to rewrite the international rulebook and impose their own authoritarian models of governance," he warned.

EU chief Ursula von der Leyen had stronger words, accusing Moscow of a "blatant attempt" to rewrite the global order
 
I bite my tongue for numerous reasons.


Western leaders on Saturday said Russia and China were seeking to "replace the existing international rules" with their own order, as Beijing backed Moscow in the Kremlin's showdown with the western military alliance, NATO.

US President Joe Biden has warned that Vladimir Putin plans an invasion of former Soviet state, Ukraine, within days.

Moscow is using the threat against Ukraine to demand a halt to NATO expansion and what it calls "Cold War" ideologies.

"For the first time we now see Beijing joining Moscow in calling on NATO to stop admitting new members," noted the alliance's chief Jens Stoltenberg, speaking at the Munich Security Conference.

"It is an attempt to control the fate of free nations, to rewrite the international rulebook and impose their own authoritarian models of governance," he warned.

EU chief Ursula von der Leyen had stronger words, accusing Moscow of a "blatant attempt" to rewrite the global order


Funny how nearly every country around the world participated in identical COVID restriction measures two years ago but suddenly can't find common ground in the stalest of status quos. Someone is pulling the wool over someone's eyes.
 
"It is an attempt to control the fate of free nations, to rewrite the international rulebook and impose their own authoritarian models of governance," he warned.
It's almost certain to be China's warning that if America intends further aggression throughout the world, China will lead a move to form a counter-alliance that will bring the majority of the world's countries under China's/India's/Russia's protective wings.
 
Russia and China shouldn’t be our adversaries, if the global elite weren’t so corrupt.

The US Empire is slowly dying due to constant foreign interventions worldwide, as all previous imperialist empires have died.
 
No surprise that our two biggest adversaries would get together.

China should be thanking us for making them so powerful and dangerous with our "gotta buy the cheap shit" money.

They can thank the union busting Republicans of the 80's for that. They, and they alone, singlehandedly created the rust belt, killing the American auto, and steel industries, while simutaneously helping to create Walmart, and with the new world order of trickle down economics, killed the American middleclass, and created the new multibillionaire class, and building the new Chinese super economy, in one fell swoop.

And now with their shiny new military, built with American corporate money, are expanding their interests in the South China Sea, while Russia is occupying Crimea, and surrounding the rest of Ukraine, demands that we don't allow Democratically elected countries decide if they want to join NATO or not?

Really?

And we should just go along with that because?

It's now long past time to end the farce that is the 40 year disaster of Reaganomics, bring back the lost tax base, that has been nothing but corporate welfare for the few, bring back all manufacturing from the South China Sea, and have an actual America First program, not the joke presented to us by grifters of the Trump administration, and the donor class only his policies benefited.

Wake the fuck up up America.
 
Funny how nearly every country around the world participated in identical COVID restriction measures two years ago but suddenly can't find common ground in the stalest of status quos. Someone is pulling the wool over someone's eyes.

Funny how you're siding with Russia and China in authoritarian dictatorships, and against western democracy.
 
Will one of you clowns stop masturbating long enough at the thought of draging the US into another European war and explain why the US should take anyones side in this?

Or are you all just mindless drones following your brainless fucking idiot leader?
 
I bite my tongue for numerous reasons.


Western leaders on Saturday said Russia and China were seeking to "replace the existing international rules" with their own order, as Beijing backed Moscow in the Kremlin's showdown with the western military alliance, NATO.

US President Joe Biden has warned that Vladimir Putin plans an invasion of former Soviet state, Ukraine, within days.

Moscow is using the threat against Ukraine to demand a halt to NATO expansion and what it calls "Cold War" ideologies.

"For the first time we now see Beijing joining Moscow in calling on NATO to stop admitting new members," noted the alliance's chief Jens Stoltenberg, speaking at the Munich Security Conference.

"It is an attempt to control the fate of free nations, to rewrite the international rulebook and impose their own authoritarian models of governance," he warned.

EU chief Ursula von der Leyen had stronger words, accusing Moscow of a "blatant attempt" to rewrite the global order

Kabuki Theater
 
I bite my tongue for numerous reasons.


Western leaders on Saturday said Russia and China were seeking to "replace the existing international rules" with their own order, as Beijing backed Moscow in the Kremlin's showdown with the western military alliance, NATO.

US President Joe Biden has warned that Vladimir Putin plans an invasion of former Soviet state, Ukraine, within days.

Moscow is using the threat against Ukraine to demand a halt to NATO expansion and what it calls "Cold War" ideologies.

"For the first time we now see Beijing joining Moscow in calling on NATO to stop admitting new members," noted the alliance's chief Jens Stoltenberg, speaking at the Munich Security Conference.

"It is an attempt to control the fate of free nations, to rewrite the international rulebook and impose their own authoritarian models of governance," he warned.

EU chief Ursula von der Leyen had stronger words, accusing Moscow of a "blatant attempt" to rewrite the global order
Well the next time the Western leaders decide establish an organization like NATO maybe they should make sure that the organization doesn't morph into a band of international thugs working for the central banks.

Over the decades of its existence NATO has managed to disregard and sidestep all the promises it made.... Work with the CIA, MI6 and other secretive organizations to destabilize numerous established government structures in the target regions...And purposely agitated international tensions in favor of various wars for the purpose of installing puppet governments at the behest of of the powers that be for a variety of reasons not the least of which was naked greed and profit. The fact that they're experiencing some push back now to come as a surprise to no one who was actually been watching the reality of what this organization has actually become.
 
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They can thank the union busting Republicans of the 80's for that. They, and they alone, singlehandedly created the rust belt, killing the American auto, and steel industries, while simutaneously helping to create Walmart, and with the new world order of trickle down economics, killed the American middleclass, and created the new multibillionaire class, and building the new Chinese super economy, in one fell swoop.

And now with their shiny new military, built with American corporate money, are expanding their interests in the South China Sea, while Russia is occupying Crimea, and surrounding the rest of Ukraine, demands that we don't allow Democratically elected countries decide if they want to join NATO or not?

Really?

And we should just go along with that because?

It's now long past time to end the farce that is the 40 year disaster of Reaganomics, bring back the lost tax base, that has been nothing but corporate welfare for the few, bring back all manufacturing from the South China Sea, and have an actual America First program, not the joke presented to us by grifters of the Trump administration, and the donor class only his policies benefited.

Wake the fuck up up America.
We cannot be free as long as globalism is our main agenda. You support people that want that and yet type what you did. You live with many comforts but 3rd world shitholes like Haiti must be uplifted to us while we sell part and parcel our heritage to all other nations. There has been much investment and aid given to nations like Haiti. But the trickledown theory went to leadership. We must become poorer to uplift others even slightly as per the globalist designs. We compete with China and Russia for dominance. China even plays the game with globalism. Give up your wealth for the people of other nations now.
 
It's like Trump has been saying for years. It's very important for free western countries to decouple from China. We need to bring our manufacturing back home regardless of the cost or temporary pain. China needs our market more than we need their murderous asses.
 
Funny how you're siding with Russia and China in authoritarian dictatorships, and against western democracy.

Oh come on.
That is old cold war rhetoric.
Russia and China have public health care, guaranteed housing, guaranteed food, guaranteed employment, etc., about a third the % imprisoned, etc.
After the last couple of elections, there is no way to even remotely claim this is at all a democracy, and it likely never really was.
It is not just that the best candidates do not win the elections, but that they can't even get nominated, and the ones who do get nominated are so bad they should all be in jail.

It is true that in Russia and China there is illegal censorship and the media members can end up jailed, but in the US it is 10 times worse because the media is OWNED by the corrupt oligarchs who also control the political process. That is much worse.
 
We cannot be free as long as globalism is our main agenda. You support people that want that and yet type what you did. You live with many comforts but 3rd world shitholes like Haiti must be uplifted to us while we sell part and parcel our heritage to all other nations. There has been much investment and aid given to nations like Haiti. But the trickledown theory went to leadership. We must become poorer to uplift others even slightly as per the globalist designs. We compete with China and Russia for dominance. China even plays the game with globalism. Give up your wealth for the people of other nations now.

Except you do not explain how globalism is harmful?
Globalism is how you level playing fields, such as preventing child labor in China, that gives them an economic edge.
 
It's almost certain to be China's warning that if America intends further aggression throughout the world, China will lead a move to form a counter-alliance that will bring the majority of the world's countries under China's/India's/Russia's protective wings.
I dont think India will be part of the new Axis of Evil
 
I dont think India will be part of the new Axis of Evil
As always, what you Americans think is only worth replying to if it includes some substance to back up the thinking.

So I'll propose the question to you that it's not likely India will become a part of the West alliance. China is offering friendly persuasion to the world, as opposed to America's persuasion by bombs.
 

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