Zone1 Were there human beings before Adam and Eve?

[Muhammed]

who had created them?

 

[Quantrill]

there are no written accounts of what never occurred - the religious itinerant praised the heavens as a goal for accomplishment achievable by everyone including himself and nothing more.

The Bible.

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[Zebra]

Creation myths are fascinating. Adam and Eve though is one of those moralistic ones as Eve got the blame for why we all don't live in paradise. Figures the male myth creators blamed a woman. But then again depends on which creation myth you subscribe to.

List of creation myths - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

good list

 

[BreezeWood]

The Bible.

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- have you reviewed the appendix of documents (24K claimed) used to write factually the 1st century events and all else included in their 4th century document they pain stakenly preserved for legitimacy and prosperity ... oh, there is no appendix referring to the documents used and their preservation in a secure location. golly whitticurs.

making the christian bible a work of fiction at best or better its true nature as a book of forgeries and fallacies - used to persecute and victimize the innocent - by the crucifies who wrote it.

 

[Quantrill]

- have you reviewed the appendix of documents (24K claimed) used to write factually the 1st century events and all else included in their 4th century document they pain stakenly preserved for legitimacy and prosperity ... oh, there is no appendix referring to the documents used and their preservation in a secure location. golly whitticurs.

making the christian bible a work of fiction at best or better its true nature as a book of forgeries and fallacies - used to persecute and victimize the innocent - by the crucifies who wrote it.

No, I sure haven't. Did I miss something? The Bible declares to be the Word of God. What do all these other documents you speak of claim to be? Oh golly gee.

Why does it make the Bible fiction? Or a forgery?

God is the Author of the Bible. Surely the 'appendix of documents' would have recognized that. Correct?

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[BreezeWood]

God is the Author of the Bible. Surely the 'appendix of documents' would have recognized that. Correct?

could be why there is no collection of documents preserved used to write the christian bible because they either never existed or were destroyed for not conveying the message the crucifiers intended for their own purposes - give unto caesar what belongs to him.

 

[Quantrill]

could be why there is no collection of documents preserved used to write the christian bible because they either never existed or were destroyed for not conveying the message the crucifiers intended for their own purposes - give unto caesar what belongs to him.

There are plenty of manuscripts from which the Bible is written. No doubt, caesar has nothing to do with the writing of the Bible.

God is the Author of the Bible.

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[ding]

In other words, you don't have faith. You just believe what you want to, what appeals to you. You do not have the faith that God gives the believers.

Go ahead and enjoy your brain. It has a time limit. My faith sees me into eternity.

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One can have faith and use their brain, and scientific research indicates that these two aspects can complement each other. Brain imaging shows that religious and spiritual practices activate various brain regions involved in thought, emotion, and decision-making. Conversely, consistent faith-based practices can strengthen neural pathways, improve focus, reduce stress, and positively impact mental health.

How faith and the brain work together

• Neural activity: Neuroscience shows that prayer, meditation, and other spiritual practices are associated with changes in brain activity, including increased blood flow to the frontal lobes, which are involved in concentration and decision-making.
• Stress reduction: Focusing on spiritual values and prayer can decrease activity in brain regions associated with fear and anxiety, helping to lower stress and improve emotional regulation.
• Neural plasticity: Faith-based practices that involve consistent mental focus can strengthen neural circuitry through processes like long-term potentiation, which improves the efficiency of these neural networks over time.
• Meaning and purpose: For many, faith provides a framework for making sense of life and can improve mental well-being by providing a sense of meaning and purpose.

Intellectual engagement with faith

• Reason and intellect: Many faiths emphasize the importance of using intellect and reason to understand and practice one's beliefs, rather than simply accepting them without question.
• Developing "intellectual faith": Some describe an "intellectual faith" that involves using both reason and belief, suggesting that engaging with questions and seeking to understand is a valid part of the process.
• Potential pitfalls: It is also noted that a rigid, unquestioning certainty in faith can potentially hinder critical thinking, but this is not inherent to all forms of faith.

 

[Quantrill]

ding

Concerning your post #(728):

When you deny what the Bible reveals as the truth, then your belief is not belief. It is unbelief.

When you deny what the Bible reveals as true simply because it is rejected by your reason or science, and then try and make it palatable by watering it down with metaphors, and giving it another interpretation, that is unbelief.

The Bible is the Word of God. We must expect the supernatural in the Bible. It is supernatural.

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[hobelim]

What I profess to believe is the Bible, God and Jesus Christ.

If that is true then you have made sinfulness and all of its known and unknown consequences a deliberate choice because you claim to believe the Bible and then openly and brazenly defy the first command by worshipping a trinity, and desecrating the teachings of Jesus by trying to mislead others into "believing" that the WORDS that Jesus spoke, his teaching, his flesh, can be made by human hands, handed out like a cheap snack food that you worship and eat on your knees for spiritual life. This is idolatry, the penalty death, a curse you so perfectly display

The fact that this remains above your grasp is evidence that YOU HAVE YOUR REWARD ALREADY

I believe the Bible too! Not because I have blind faith but because I see the Law of my God in effect and full force

 

[hobelim]

God is the Author of the Bible.

When Paul told Christians to SUBMIT to governing "authorities" when Nero was Caesar that was God writing?

Dimwit.

 

[Quantrill]

If that is true then you have made sinfulness and all of its known and unknown consequences a deliberate choice because you claim to believe the Bible and then openly and brazenly defy the first command by worshipping a trinity, and desecrating the teachings of Jesus by trying to mislead others into "believing" that the WORDS that Jesus spoke, his teaching, his flesh, can be made by human hands, handed out like a cheap snack food that you worship and eat on your knees for spiritual life. This is idolatry, the penalty death, a curse you so perfectly display

The fact that this remains above your grasp is evidence that YOU HAVE YOUR REWARD ALREADY

I believe the Bible too! Not because I have blind faith but because I see the Law of my God in effect and full force

There is no command against the Trinity of God.

The only one who desecrates the Word of God is you. As has already been shown.

No, you don't believe the Bible. You contradict the Bible. Is Jesus Christ the God/Man, the Son of God? Is the Bible the Word of God? Who is your god? What is his name? Where are the writings of your god that others may know him....as if they wanted to? Where are the other followers of your god, what are they called...save unbelievers like yourself.

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[hobelim]

There is no command against the Trinity of God.

Yes there is.

It is a violation of the first command because if God is unequalled, as clearly stated in scripture, and incorporeal, with no visible shape or material form, then there is no such thing as a coequal trinity that became a man.

But don't let reality or LOGOS, Divine reasoning, stop you. Anyone can see the many wonderful things believing in a trinity that raped a virgin to become a sacrificial Jewish man so numbskulls like you, who solemnly celebrate the death of an innocent man, and eat him, can sin with impunity for life. Enjoy your delusions.

Just try to remember, as you prance around oblivious to your defiled and contaminated state of mind, to the living, your sin is as obvious as a white boulder in the middle of a plowed field.

 

[Quantrill]

When Paul told Christians to SUBMIT to governing "authorities" when Nero was Caesar that was God writing?

Dimwit.

Yes, (Rom. 13:1-7) is the Word of God.

You have a problem with that?

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[Quantrill]

Yes there is.

It is a violation of the first command because if God is unequalled, as clearly stated in scripture, and incorporeal, with no visible shape or material form, then there is no such thing as a coequal trinity that became a man.

But don't let reality or LOGOS, Divine reasoning, stop you. Anyone can see the many wonderful things believing in a trinity that raped a virgin to become a sacrificial Jewish man so numbskulls like you, who solemnly celebrate the death of an innocent man, and eat him, can sin with impunity for life. Enjoy your delusions.

Just try to remember, as you prance around oblivious to your defiled and contaminated state of mind, to the living, your sin is as obvious as a white boulder in the middle of a plowed field.

No, Jesus is God the Son. His visible shape is as a Man made in the image of God. But, with Jesus He is the exact, and in every way, the God/Man. (Heb. 1:3) "Who, being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person...."

The Virgin birth was not a rape. Again, you pervert the Bible, yet all the while try and claim you follow the Bible. You follow your own perverted religion which centers on you. How big a following do you have...little man?

Why don't you answer my questions?

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[hobelim]

Yes, (Rom. 13:1-7) is the Word of God.

You have a problem with that?

Well, let me be the first to let you know. I don't have a problem with you pretending to believe that. You are the one who has a problem pretending to believe it. God and Jesus would never instruct the faithful to submit to evil.

You are just a liar.

 

[Quantrill]

Well, let me be the first to let you know. I don't have a problem with you pretending to believe that. You are the one who has a problem pretending to believe it. God and Jesus would never instruct the faithful to submit to evil.

You are just a liar.

What evil are you talking about?

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[hobelim]

What evil are you talking about?

Seriously? The evil of submitting to a Roman man who claimed to be a god and persecuted Christians. That evil.

"Christians were vocal in their expressions of abhorrence towards the beliefs and practices of Roman paganism, such as deifying and making ritual sacrifices to the Roman emperor or partaking in other methods of idolatry. Consequently, the Roman state and other members of civic society routinely punished Christians for treason, various rumoured crimes, illegal assembly, and for introducing an alien cult that drove many Roman people to apostasy in favour of Jesus Christ. According to Tacitus, the first wave of organized persecution of Christians occurred under Nero (r. 54–68), who blamed Christians for the Great Fire of Rome in 64CE."

This is "the governing authorities" that Paul told Christians to submit to. The Word of God according to you. Pft.

Persecution of Christians in the Roman Empire - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[BreezeWood]

There are plenty of manuscripts from which the Bible is written.

provide one ... provide the original christian bible written in the 4th century - there are none.

no original bible means not written any others from the heavens ...

 

[Quantrill]

Seriously? The evil of submitting to a Roman man who claimed to be a god and persecuted Christians. That evil.

"Christians were vocal in their expressions of abhorrence towards the beliefs and practices of Roman paganism, such as deifying and making ritual sacrifices to the Roman emperor or partaking in other methods of idolatry. Consequently, the Roman state and other members of civic society routinely punished Christians for treason, various rumoured crimes, illegal assembly, and for introducing an alien cult that drove many Roman people to apostasy in favour of Jesus Christ. According to Tacitus, the first wave of organized persecution of Christians occurred under Nero (r. 54–68), who blamed Christians for the Great Fire of Rome in 64CE."

This is "the governing authorities" that Paul told Christians to submit to. The Word of God according to you. Pft.

Persecution of Christians in the Roman Empire - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Well, being true to God and Jesus Christ is first on the Christians agenda. When government becomes evil and goes against God, and persecutes the Christians for their faith, the Christian submits to that...not by obeying to the evil, but by submitting to the punishment for not obeying the evil.

The government says submit to our law that you can no longer speak of Jesus Christ or you will die. The Christian submits and pays the penalty of death.

What would you do, oh perverted one?

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