Zone1 Were there human beings before Adam and Eve?

[Quantrill]

I guess that disqualifies you who openly admits to being a sinner and proves it every time you set aside the law of my God to seek spiritual life on your knees from a lifeless piece of bread made by human hands.





You should find another hobby. You really suck at acting.


To commit sin is to break Gods Law: Sin, in fact, is lawlessness. Christ appeared, as you know, to do away with sins, and there is no sin in him. No man who dwells in him is a sinner; the sinner has not seen him and does not know him.

My children, do not be misled: it is the man who does what is right who is righteous, as God is righteous; the man who sins is a child of the devil, for the devil has been a sinner from the first; and the Son of God appeared for the very purpose of undoing the devils work.

A child of God does not commit sin, because the divine seed remains in him; he cannot be a sinner because he is God's child. That is the distinction between the children of God and the children of the devil: no one who does not do what is right is God's child, nor is anyone who does not love his brother." 1 John 3:4-10

All who are in Christ are sinners...saved by Jesus Christ. Thus, if you have no sin, you cannot be 'in Christ'. And, as you said so yourself, you do not sin.

What is the law of your god? You have not said. You make up this god of yours. And until you tell me what the law of your god is, it is nothing but b.s. also.

You keep saying things but give no Bible verses to support. The one you gave to support, (1 John 3:4-10), I have already explained. See again post #(304).

And you have been shown already to be a liar. (1 John 1:10). "If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."

Your god is a phony and you are a phony which is why you can't answer my questions. Your god is just your own perverted mind.

Quantrill

 

[hobelim]

All who are in Christ are sinners

Liar.

To commit sin is to break Gods Law: Sin, in fact, is lawlessness. Christ appeared, as you know, to do away with sins, and there is no sin in him. No man who dwells in him is a sinner; the sinner has not seen him and does not know him.

My children, do not be misled: it is the man who does what is right who is righteous, as God is righteous; the man who sins is a child of the devil, for the devil has been a sinner from the first; and the Son of God appeared for the very purpose of undoing the devils work.

A child of God does not commit sin, because the divine seed remains in him; he cannot be a sinner because he is God's child. That is the distinction between the children of God and the children of the devil: no one who does not do what is right is God's child, nor is anyone who does not love his brother." 1 John 3:4-10

 

[Quantrill]

Liar.

To commit sin is to break Gods Law: Sin, in fact, is lawlessness. Christ appeared, as you know, to do away with sins, and there is no sin in him. No man who dwells in him is a sinner; the sinner has not seen him and does not know him.

My children, do not be misled: it is the man who does what is right who is righteous, as God is righteous; the man who sins is a child of the devil, for the devil has been a sinner from the first; and the Son of God appeared for the very purpose of undoing the devils work.

A child of God does not commit sin, because the divine seed remains in him; he cannot be a sinner because he is God's child. That is the distinction between the children of God and the children of the devil: no one who does not do what is right is God's child, nor is anyone who does not love his brother." 1 John 3:4-10

If I am a liar why can't your answer my questions?

What law are you talking about? You say god's law, but what is the law of your god? Why are you scared?

I have already explained (1 John 3;4-10) in post #(304). Go back and reread...or just read.

Quantrill

 

[hobelim]

If I am a liar why can't your answer my questions?

What law are you talking about? You say god's law, but what is the law of your god? Why are you scared?

I have already explained (1 John 3;4-10) in post #(304). Go back and reread...or just read.

I am sorry about you being confounded. Let me clarify what is clear. You claim to be "a sinner "in Christ". True? And then you had the audacity to say "All who are in Christ are sinners" Which is irrational delusional and false.

I posted the words of John who said, "No man who dwells in him is a sinner." Exposing you as the liar. Liar.

Does that help?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

When does science say Adam and Eve were created?

It doesn't. Science long ago ruled out the Adam and Eve myth as false.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

How does science know Adam and Eve existed?

It doesn't, see above post.

 

[hobelim]

It doesn't. Science long ago ruled out the Adam and Eve myth as false.

Did anyone really ever need a scientist to know that the story, like the story of the three pigs, cannot be literally true? Damn. Even so truth, hard learned lessons of the distant past, is conveyed in every fairy tale myth or fable.

A book that starts with "In the beginning" like "Once upon a time" and introduces a crafty talking serpent is a children's story. Even if Adam and Eve never existed that in itself does not make the story false. Talking serpents are everywhere. Many unfortunate souls have died publicly once bitten. Look how many have been "beguiled" into believing that trump has been anointed by God, DERP, even though nothing could be further from the truth.

Thats the truth.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Did anyone really ever need a scientist to know that the story, like the story of the three pigs, cannot be literally true? Damn. Even so truth, hard learned lessons of the distant past, is conveyed in every fairy tale myth or fable.

A book that starts with "In the beginning" like "Once upon a time" and introduces a crafty talking serpent is a children's story. Even if Adam and Eve never existed that in itself does not make the story false. Talking serpents are everywhere. Many unfortunate souls have died publicly once bitten. Look how many have been "beguiled" into believing that trump has been anointed by God, DERP, even though nothing could be further from the truth.

Thats the truth.

Well, if you are willing to believe in magic, then just about anything is possible.

 

[hobelim]

Well, if you are willing to believe in magic, then just about anything is possible.

Well, you do understand that hypnotism, brainwashing, and mind control, seemed like magic, sorcery, and still does to the uneducated even though many species of crafty talking serpents have got it down to a science.

Don't you?

If you believe in the reality of brainwashing or mind control then you believe in what the ancients called magic. If you believe a person can be beguiled, brainwashed, into joining a cult then you believe in demonic possession.

The demon being the cult leader, demagogue, religious charlatan, etc., the possessed being the brainwashed.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Well, you do understand that hypnotism, brainwashing, and mind control, seemed like magic, sorcery, and still does to the uneducated even though many species of crafty talking serpents have got it down to a science.

Don't you?

If you believe in the reality of brainwashing or mind control then you believe in what the ancients called magic. If you believe a person can be beguiled, brainwashed, into joining a cult then you believe in demonic possession.

The demon being the cult leader, demagogue, religious charlatan, etc., the possessed being the brainwashed.

I also understand none of that is needed, when one has already accepted a belief in magic.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Good argument and Jesus supported "No Kings!"

AI Overview

John 6:15 describes Jesus withdrawing to a mountain by himself after realizing a crowd wanted to forcefully make him their king. This happens after he fed the 5,000, and his action shows his rejection of a temporal political kingship in favor of his spiritual mission.

 

[hobelim]

I also understand none of that is needed, when one has already accepted a belief in magic.

You can see proof of demonic possession live and in living color whenever a person degrades themself for trump.

Ask any scientist.

You don't have to believe in magic. You just have to believe what you see and hear with your own eyes and ears.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You can see proof of demonic possession live and in living color whenever a person degrades themself for trump.

Ask any scientist.

You don't have to believe in magic. You just have to believe what you see and hear with your own eyes and ears.

I dont think there are any scientists who will agree that demonic possession is real.

And eyes and ears are notoriously unreliable sources of information.

Ask any scientist.

 

[onefour1]

I dont think there are any scientists who will agree that demonic possession is real.

And eyes and ears are notoriously unreliable sources of information.

Ask any scientist.

Here are a list of scientist that might disagree with you! List of Christians in Science and Technology

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Here are a list of scientist that might disagree with you! List of Christians in Science and Technology

Nah, they mostly would not. And by most, I mean, probably almost all. Sorry.

 

[Quantrill]

I am sorry about you being confounded. Let me clarify what is clear. You claim to be "a sinner "in Christ". True? And then you had the audacity to say "All who are in Christ are sinners" Which is irrational delusional and false.

I posted the words of John who said, "No man who dwells in him is a sinner." Exposing you as the liar. Liar.

Does that help?

No, it doesn't help. You didn't answer the question. What law of your god are you talking about? Simple question.

I explained to you (1 John 3:4-10). See again post #(304)

I am not a liar, as I have given you Scripture. You give nothing.

You, however, are proved to be a liar. (1 John 1:10) "If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."

Not only do you lie, but you make God a liar. And His Word is not in you.

So who is this god you claim to worship? I follow the God of the Bible and Jesus Christ. I am Christian. Who do you follow and what are you called....other than liar?

Quantrill

 

[Quantrill]

It doesn't. Science long ago ruled out the Adam and Eve myth as false.

Then you should believe your science. I don't. I believe the Bible.

Quantrill

 

[Quantrill]

It doesn't, see above post.

Exactly right. It doesn't know...and it can't know.

Quantrill

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Then you should believe your science. I don't. I believe the Bible.

Quantrill

And thats fine. If it makes you happy, i am happy for you.

Just don't expect to parade around a bunch of lies about science and not get embarrassed. That's all.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Exactly right. It doesn't know...and it can't know.

Quantrill

Wrong of course, we know the Adam and Eve myth is false just as much as we know the earth is round.