Zone1 Were there human beings before Adam and Eve?

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Too bad that physical science has no way of knowing.

Yes, that's what people who couldn't pass a freshman biology course like to say.

Do yourself a favor and stay away from scientific topics. You're embarrassing yourself.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

The biblical account states take seven pairs of clean animals and two of every unclean animal, not just two of each type. Another misconception is that Noah had to find all the animals himself; according to the Genesis account, God said the animals would come to him

Yes this is true and not hidden. You pretend it is

 

[toobfreak]

Oh, I see. I have answered your questions.

That's news to me. You keep sayin' that but I see no proof of it. I've not heard you answer anything.

Yet you can't/won't answer mine.

You don't need to know.

So, when does science say Adam and Eve were born?

You're the expert; when does the Bible say?

These scientists can trace our DNA back 200,000 years.

US scientists find evidence that confirms the Bible's Adam and Eve 'actually existed'

Archaeologists from Washington even believe the Garden of Eden could be a real place where civilisation began.

www.unilad.com

Yet Biblical scholars suggest a much more recent date of only about 6,000 years ago.

When did the creation of Adam and Eve occur?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Please copy and paste the Bible verse? Simple request.

On the first day.... On the 2nd day.....

I'm busy doing a jigsaw....on the first day I opened the box and sorted out the edge pieces....on the 2nd day of the jigsaw (after my two week holiday to Spain), I sorted out the blue bits for the sky.

Please copy and paste the Bible verse that each day was consecutive. You strangely find it funny but can't give the answer?? Are you ok?



Edit : it's like the misconception that the Bible alleges says the animals went into the ark 2 by 2. The biblical account states take seven pairs of clean animals and two of every unclean animal, not just two of each type. Another misconception is that Noah had to find all the animals himself; according to the Genesis account, God said the animals would come to him.

So a correct answer would be good.

You won't accept al the answer because you aren't humble in spirit. This is probably the only answer you'll get depending on how you receive it. I sense your argumentative spirit

Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For lN SIX DAYS the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day

 

[BreezeWood]

Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For lN SIX DAYS the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day

the sabbath is their creation upon completion - life and garden earth, that is what is to be kept holy.

the desert religions have failed miserably ... your day off even if to honor the heavenly accomplishment likewise has no meaning for its lack of effort and destruction by humanity, desert dwellers in particular of the very garden to be honored.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Please copy and paste the Bible verse? Simple request.

On the first day.... On the 2nd day.....

I'm busy doing a jigsaw....on the first day I opened the box and sorted out the edge pieces....on the 2nd day of the jigsaw (after my two week holiday to Spain), I sorted out the blue bits for the sky.

Please copy and paste the Bible verse that each day was consecutive. You strangely find it funny but can't give the answer?? Are you ok?



Edit : it's like the misconception that the Bible alleges says the animals went into the ark 2 by 2. The biblical account states take seven pairs of clean animals and two of every unclean animal, not just two of each type. Another misconception is that Noah had to find all the animals himself; according to the Genesis account, God said the animals would come to him.

So a correct answer would be good.

You know, maybe you're onto something.

What do you think of this:

What appears in Genesis came out of Moses's mouth. Moses only had the knowledge he had and could only produce the vision verbally the way he could produce it.

The entire description may have come from Moses being shown all of creation, all the way back to the Big Bang. Galaxy formation, Abiogenesis, Evolution, all of it.

And what became Genesis was all Moses's mind could produce, from all of it.

Scientists would just be studying God's creation, in any event. There is no need to toss aside their discoveries, just because a more primitive man did not have the ideas and words to describe them or understand them. Would you have the words? Would I?

 

[Captain Caveman]

Yes this is true and not hidden. You pretend it is

I pretend nothing, I am asking because of assumptions.

 

[Quantrill]

That's news to me. You keep sayin' that but I see no proof of it. I've not heard you answer anything.


You don't need to know.


You're the expert; when does the Bible say?

These scientists can trace our DNA back 200,000 years.

US scientists find evidence that confirms the Bible's Adam and Eve 'actually existed'

Archaeologists from Washington even believe the Garden of Eden could be a real place where civilisation began.

www.unilad.com

Yet Biblical scholars suggest a much more recent date of only about 6,000 years ago.

When did the creation of Adam and Eve occur?

I gave you the proof as you asked questions concerning the Bible.

Are you saying Adam and Eve existed because science says so? Again, how does science know when Adam and Eve were created? Better yet, how do they know they existed at all?

The Bible doesn't say.

Scholars can suggest a lot of things. Science suggest a lot of things.

Quantrill

 

[toobfreak]

I gave you the proof as you asked questions concerning the Bible.

You didn't give jack.

Are you saying Adam and Eve existed because science says so? Again, how does science know when Adam and Eve were created? Better yet, how do they know they existed at all?

You don't even understand the links. I might as well talk to a rabbit.

 

[Quantrill]

Yes, that's what people who couldn't pass a freshman biology course like to say.

Do yourself a favor and stay away from scientific topics. You're embarrassing yourself.

When does science say Adam and Eve were created? How does science know Adam and Eve existed?

Quantrill

 

[braalian]

When does science say Adam and Eve were created? How does science know Adam and Eve existed?

Quantrill

Science and scientists have neither the obligation nor the inclination to address mythological characters

 

[Quantrill]

Science and scientists have neither the obligation nor the inclination to address mythological characters

What makes Adam and Eve mythological?

Quantrill

 

[braalian]

What makes Adam and Eve mythological?

Quantrill

Talking snakes, magic apples, the entire premise….

 

[Quantrill]

Talking snakes, magic apples, the entire premise….

The entire premise being, "In the beginning God". (Gen. 1:1)

Supernatural, yes. But it involves man and the earth. It involves the physical.

Quantrill

 

[braalian]

The entire premise being, "In the beginning God". (Gen. 1:1)

Supernatural, yes. But it involves man and the earth. It involves the physical.

Quantrill

What’s your point?

The myths of Ancient Greece can be said to involve “man and the earth”. That’s a very broad theme that could include literally almost every story ever told

 

[Quantrill]

What’s your point?

The myths of Ancient Greece can be said to involve “man and the earth”. That’s a very broad theme that could include literally almost every story ever told

I believe I made it. You and science call the Bible myth. You say science has no 'obligation' to address myth. But actually, science has no 'ability' to address the supernatural. It deals only with the physical.

Because science cannot address the supernatural, it should make no determination on what is myth and what is not. It cannot know.

Indeed, it is a broad theme. A broad theme that science cannot know anything about.

Quantrill

 

[toobfreak]

What makes Adam and Eve mythological?
Quantrill

Look, Ace, I admire your blind adherence to the Bible. Scholars estimate it was written between about 1600BC to about 100AD. Many parts of the biblical story are literally just a historical record of people and events. Many people and places in the Bible have been identified with actual places and folks known to have lived with physical records.

But Adam and Eve---

Are they the first humans in the biblical account? Yes.

But were they the first humans to have ever lived, materialized out of rib and sand? Not bloody likely.
More likely, these were two people actually to have been known to have lived. Maybe they were the first two people known to have lived (a record of their lives kept) somewhere in the Syrian, Iraq, Turkey region.

But where they the first two human to have walked the face of the planet? Absolutely not. Not even remotely possible.
But I'm OK with that. How could someone from 1600 years ago possibly have known about life all around the globe? The story has to start somewhere. Maybe there was a record somewhere that went back to Cain and Abel and stopped with their parents Adam and Eve? They could not have been the first people but they could have been the first people in a given region, or the first people recorded in an historical account.

Either way works for me, as it really makes little difference in the overall Abrahamic account of Christ.

 

[Quantrill]

In these verses it is clear that Adam and Christ are being addressed. When it says 'in Adam all die', it means just that. All those in Adam die. Which means Adam is that Federal Head of the human race. His action of sin caused all of his race to sin.

When it says 'in Christ shall all be made alive' it too means what it says. All those in Christ will be made alive. Christ is the Federal Head of His race. Point being, you have to be 'in Christ', which comes by faith in Christ as Son of God and Saviour. All those who reject Christ remain in Adam.

Then Adam is called the first man in (1 Cor. 15:45) 'The first man Adam'. But Christ is called 'the last Adam'.

Then Adam is called again the first man in (1 Cor. 15:47). But Christ is called the second man.

It is understandable that Adam is the first man. But what does it men that Christ is the 'last Adam'?

And, what does it mean that Christ is the Second Man, when numerically He wasn't the second man?

Quantrill

These are difficult questions. I am asking those who bear the name of 'Christian'. I have an opinion, an answer, but am interested in other believer's opinions and answers.

What does it mean that Christ is the last Adam? (1 Cor. 15:45)

What does it mean that Christ is the Second Man, when numerically, He wasn't the Second Man?

Quantrill

 

[toobfreak]

Because science cannot address the supernatural, it should make no determination on what is myth and what is not. It cannot know.

Why should science address it? Supernatural literally means "beyond science." This is not a failing of science, it is an admission that the claims don't fit the known physical laws and graphable facts. Things falling into this category are relegated as myth.

 

[braalian]

These are difficult questions. I am asking those who bear the name of 'Christian'. I have an opinion, an answer, but am interested in other believer's opinions and answers.

What does it mean that Christ is the last Adam? (1 Cor. 15:45)

What does it mean that Christ is the Second Man, when numerically, He wasn't the Second Man?

Quantrill

….and that’s what makes the story of Adam and Eve a myth.

You do realize that “supernatural” and “mythological” go hand in hand for a reason?