Zone1 Were there human beings before Adam and Eve?

[toobfreak]

Your scientific evidence contradicts the Word of God.

Scientific evidence is objective, graphable, repeatable. The Word of God isn't. In fact, it is entirely subjective; we cannot even see, test or measure it for ourselves, we can only take someone else's word that someone they knew of has heard it. As such, it is about as substantive as the mythical Irish pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

And this brings us to the actual point:

• The first, most ancient religions like Vedic science and Hinduism, the more we learn of the actual universe, the more ways we find it in agreement with the universe described in their text.
• But the more we learn about the actual universe, the more we find the Bible in conflict with it, so, do you just blindly take the Bible anyway, or do you trust your own eyes and ears?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

your private theory?

The firmament is traditionally considered the atmosphere between the earth and clouds.

Atmosphere/Sky:
The most common modern interpretation of the firmament is the atmosphere or sky, the expanse where birds fly, clouds form, and celestial bodies are seen from Earth.

 

[hobelim]

I dont think there are any scientists who will agree that demonic possession is real.

lol.. Maybe I could be more clear.

The point made was that what the authors described as demonic possession is what is now well known as mind control, of one or many people, possessions, under the complete domination of a talking serpent, a devil, not to be confused with what professed "believers" mean by demonic possession today, an evil invisible disembodied entity that makes its victims think very naughty thoughts, mock religion, revile con artists, and vomit pea soup.

The devil, a metaphor for a despicable human archetype, is only invisible to the blind, figuratively speaking.

And eyes and ears are notoriously unreliable sources of information.

Ask any scientist.

You haven't seen with your own eyes legions of people brainwashed by Fox News into selling their souls for trump? You can't make that great leap of intelligence to connect a fairy tale with what's actually happening?

Thats a shame.

Forget about a scientist. Maybe you need an ophthalmologist and a team of kindergarten teachers..

 

[midcan5]

Creation myths are fascinating. Adam and Eve though is one of those moralistic ones as Eve got the blame for why we all don't live in paradise. Figures the male myth creators blamed a woman. But then again depends on which creation myth you subscribe to.

List of creation myths - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[hobelim]

No, it doesn't help. You didn't answer the question. What law of your god are you talking about? Simple question.

For someone who claims to have read and believes the Bible nothing seems to have penetrated as if you were dead, not to mention dumb enough to think I didn't notice you avoiding the contradiction between what you claimed to be, a sinner in Christ, with what the Apostle John wrote, "No man who dwells in him is a sinner".

Then like an idiot you ask "Who is my God" "What is his name? "Where did you learn about him?" "What has he written" "What is his Law?" You are so full of shit. Am I telling you something that you didn't already know?

Everything I have made known I have drawn from what Jesus taught, removing the clouds that have obscured him from sight for thousands of years. If you were in Christ or if Christ was in you would be jumping for joy. Free. Treading on scorpions casting out devils healing the sick giving sight to the blind and raising the dead in Christ

Not trying to hide in a hole while clinging to archaic superstitious extremely reprehensible religious flotsam. Putz.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Back then, before the flood, there was still the waters in the firmament between the sun and the earth so that the sun did not do the damage it does now to the body. Once the flood occurred, the waters were gone and so the age of man decreased as with all other life too except for trees.

That can't be right, water doesnt block UV rays, sorry. Nor do UV rays cause the normal aging process. That's all utter nonsense.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Your scientific evidence contradicts the Word of God. Thus I believe the Bible, not your science.

That's right, none of your science means a damn when it contradicts God's Word.

Quantrill

*to you

Until you feel the need to whine about it on your quantum mechanical device.

 

[hobelim]

The firmament is traditionally considered the atmosphere between the earth and clouds.

Thats what you have been told. I am telling you that the firmament (basis) of Heaven is the Law of my God which separates the world above from the world below, Divine mercy marking the boundary between heaven and hell.

The light (the Law) came into this world but the darkness has never mastered it, (the Law). Even though its easy.

Damn.

 

[braalian]

Your scientific evidence contradicts the Word of God. Thus I believe the Bible, not your science.

That's right, none of your science means a damn when it contradicts God's Word.

Quantrill

Well, that’s makes any debate super easy for you.

You don’t even have to provide any evidence for anything at all

 

[Cougarbear]

That can't be right, water doesnt block UV rays, sorry. Nor do UV rays cause the normal aging process. That's all utter nonsense.

Yes it does. "It only blocks a small percentage, and you can still get sunburned while swimming. Approximately 40% of UV radiation can reach the body just half a meter below the surface, and 20% can still penetrate 3 feet down. Furthermore, being in or around water increases your UV exposure because the surface can reflect and magnify the sun's rays."
I googled the same you did but comprehend much more than you do. Imagine enough water is floating around the earth that can help flood the earth completely. It doesn't block out completely and that is why those who lived before the Noah Flood eventually died. I'll take my bow now.

 

[hobelim]

It doesn't block out completely and that is why those who lived before the Noah Flood eventually died.

They eventually died from UV rays? Not old age, disease, accidents, murder, starvation? Same as it ever was?

Righteo!

I'll take my bow now.

Who are you bowing to? Yourself?

 

[Cougarbear]

They eventually died from UV rays? Not old age, disease, accidents, murder, starvation? Same as it ever was?

Righteo!



Who are you bowing to? Yourself?

Adam lived 930 years. Others much less. What the average was is unknown. So, there is more to the length of life then as it is now. But, the sun is a huge factor today as well. You should know that. I’ll take my bow again.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yes it does. "It only blocks a small percentage, and you can still get sunburned while swimming. Approximately 40% of UV radiation can reach the body just half a meter below the surface, and 20% can still penetrate 3 feet down. Furthermore, being in or around water increases your UV exposure because the surface can reflect and magnify the sun's rays."
I googled the same you did but comprehend much more than you do. Imagine enough water is floating around the earth that can help flood the earth completely. It doesn't block out completely and that is why those who lived before the Noah Flood eventually died. I'll take my bow now.

You literally just proved my point. Thanks!

No, water dies not block enough UV rays even to avoid a sunburn. Thanks again.

Furthermore, that isnt what causes the normal aging process anyway

So everything you said is demonstrably nonsense, and you would get laughed out of any room of people who know anything about any of this.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Adam lived 930 years.

Which is, of course, laughable nonsense.

 

[hobelim]

Adam lived 930 years. Others much less. What the average was is unknown. So, there is more to the length of life then as it is now. But, the sun is a huge factor today as well. You should know that. I’ll take my bow again.

If a you divide 930 by 12 it is 77.5 years. But I have a secret potion that can defy the aging process and you can live for 1000 years too. Money back guarantee! And If you act right now you can get .10% off the retail price of $10,000,000.00. Send cash and you could feel younger within minutes after drinking. (This offer is not valid where prohibited by Law.)

 

[ding]

Adam lived 930 years. Others much less. What the average was is unknown. So, there is more to the length of life then as it is now. But, the sun is a huge factor today as well. You should know that. I’ll take my bow again.

God gave you are brain because you are supposed to use it.

 

[Cougarbear]

You literally just proved my point. Thanks!

No, water dies not block enough UV rays even to avoid a sunburn. Thanks again.

Furthermore, that isnt what causes the normal aging process anyway

So everything you said is demonstrably nonsense, and you would get laughed out of any room of people who know anything about any of this.

Your comprehension abilities are really poor. Go back to reading school and then post on the forum. It clearly stated that water does partially block UV radiation. 40% and 20% proves this. Please, you lost this one. You asked how they could have lived so long and you have your answer.

 

[Cougarbear]

Which is, of course, laughable nonsense.

Already proved it was correct. Just because you can't believe it doesn't make it not correct. You are not God.

 

[Cougarbear]

If a you divide 930 by 12 it is 77.5 years. But I have a secret potion that can defy the aging process and you can live for 1000 years too. Money back guarantee! And If you act right now you can get .10% off the retail price of $10,000,000.00. Send cash and you could feel younger within minutes after drinking. (This offer is not valid where prohibited by Law.)

Why divide by 12? Keep your potion. The reality is in the resurrection, we will live forever. Some with God and some with Satan.

 

[Cougarbear]

God gave you are brain because you are supposed to use it.

And, I did so. I did some research about the water in the firmament that was still there after God brought Adam and Eve to the earth. The UV rays were much less before the Noah's Flood and that helped people live longer.