Zone1 Were there human beings before Adam and Eve?

[toobfreak]

No, it's just the answer you don't like.
I have answered all your questions.

You wish. I could point out any single question and you have no answer for it. Or, put your way, it is the Bible which has no answer. Boy, that didn't take long--- 2 seconds in and you've dumped all fault and responsibility onto a book and not you!

The Bible has answered your questions.

In your dreams.

 

[BothWings]

Define "human being".

I believe at some point a milestone of spiritual awareness emerged in humankind, and it was these first initiates who are personified and symbolized by the fictional characters Adam and Eve. Nevertheless, the fundamental truth of the spiritual awareness described in the story is 100% real.

 

[hobelim]

I didnt read it in the Bible and didnt knew this but a feminist professor in university told me there existed a female before Eve her name was apparently 'Lilith'.

I guess that settles it then. There were human beings already in existence before Adam and Eve. What a surprise!

 

[hobelim]

Are you forgetting about Balaam's donkey.

Exactly. Its TRADITION, a traditional biblical way of calling someone a jackass. Just like snake, dog, pig, sheep, goats, wolves, vultures, creepy things that creep, etc., are all obvious references to human beings in scripture.

"And he shall be as a wild ass among men; his hand shall be against every man, and every man's hand against him" Genesis 16:12

"Where the vultures gather there lies the corpse." Do not give your pearls to the swine. Do not give what is holy to the dogs" "Separate the sheep from the goats, "wolves in sheep clothing", It is not right to give the childrens meat to the dogs," "Go and tell that fox." “You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath?"

 

[Cellblock2429]

The children of Adam and Eve multiplied and inhabited the land of Nod. Adam lived 930 years. That a long time to generate much posterity for Cain to go off and marry.

/-----/ "Adam lived 930 years"
What many fail to understand is that the passage of time was not always calculated the way we do in modern times, or is a result of mistranslations.

Mistranslation​

Some believe that Methuselah's extreme age is the result of an ancient mistranslation that converted "months" to "years", producing a more credible 969 lunar months, or 78½ years, using numbers from the Masoretic Text. Donald V. Etz suggested that the Genesis 5 numbers "might for convenience have all been multiples of 5 or 10".

Ellen Bennet argued that the Septuagint Genesis 5 numbers are in tenths of years, which "will explain how it was that they read 930 years for the age of Adam instead of 93 years, and 969 years for Methuselah instead of 96 years, and 950 years for that of Noah instead of 95 years"... "Surely it is much more rational to conclude that Noah lived 50 years instead of 500 years before he took a wife and begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth..." and then lists the Septuagint total ages with decimal points: 93.0 for Adam, 91.0 for Cainan, 96.9 for Methuselah, 95.0 for Noah, etc.<a href="Methuselah - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>27<span>]</span></a> This, however, also implies that Enoch became a father at the age of 6.5 and that the other antediluvian patriarchs did so at implausibly young ages.

 

[hobelim]

So, is that supposed to means something?

Yes, but don't you worry your silly self about it. You are an idolator. You died a very long time ago and descended into Gehenna where you remain feasting on the smoldering trash discarded by higher intelligences like a maggot feasting on decomposing flesh or a rat feasting on fetid garbage imagining that you have been blessed by God.

You have confused a state of grace with being oblivious faith with obstinate stupidity and a blessing with a curse.



Remember! He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword.



Enjoy!

 

[Quantrill]

You wish. I could point out any single question and you have no answer for it. Or, put your way, it is the Bible which has no answer. Boy, that didn't take long--- 2 seconds in and you've dumped all fault and responsibility onto a book and not you!


In your dreams.

Point it out. I have answered all your questions.

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[Quantrill]

Yes, but don't you worry your silly self about it. You are an idolator. You died a very long time ago and descended into Gehenna where you remain feasting on the smoldering trash discarded by higher intelligences like a maggot feasting on decomposing flesh or a rat feasting on fetid garbage imagining that you have been blessed by God.

You have confused a state of grace with being oblivious faith with obstinate stupidity and a blessing with a curse.



Remember! He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword.



Enjoy!

Nothin to worry about when you can't explain yourself.

Nice speech and cartoons. The two go together.

Get back with me when you have something to say.

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[hobelim]

Get back with me when you have something to say.

What for? I already said it. A few times, very clearly. If scripture is true, what is written in the Bible is true, what you profess to believe is the very word of God is true, then you died in the very day you set aside the Law of my God and turned to a lifeless piece of bread made by human hands that has no spiritual life to give, cannot see, hear, speak, or walk, is not the Body of Christ, much less a god, that you worship on your knees and eat for spiritual life, then you died a very long time ago and descended into Gehenna, hell, the realm of the dead, where you remain to this day in a tomb, filled with corruption, the habitation of every sort of foul and loathsome beast and bird on earth, dying every single time you defy the Law of my God at mass, never finding peace in death.

No need to respond. If you had any life or faith in you at all, you would have understood the first three times.

And acted on it.

 

[Quantrill]

What for? I already said it. If scripture is true, what is written in the Bible is true, what you profess to believe is the very word of God is true, then you died in the very day you set aside the Law of my God and turned to a lifeless piece of bread made by human hands that has no spiritual life to give, cannot see, hear, speak, or walk, is not the Body of Christ, much less a god, that you worship on your knees and eat for spiritual life, then you died a very long time ago and descended into Gehenna, hell, the realm of the dead, where you remain to this day in a tomb, filled with corruption, the habitation of every sort of foul and loathsome beast and bird on earth, dying every single time you defy the Law of my God at mass, never finding peace in death.

No need to respond. If you had any life or faith in you at all, you would have understood the first three times.

And acted on it.

Scripture is true. The Scripture declares to be the very Word of God and true.

I didn't set aside the law of your god. I believed the Word of God the Bible. Your god I don't know. And you can't give his name. And you can't say how one can know about him. Why? Because he is a phony. A figment of your imagination.

Who is this phony god of yours? What has he written? Can he write? Where can one read about him?

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[postman]

in the land of Nod?

I think this goes contrary to the first seven days in the Bible

Why do you think almost identical stories are told in Genesis I and Genesis 2.

One told of a story of God creating "them" male and female.

The other told of creating only man from the dust and breathing life into him.
And later creating woman from man, and putting them in the garden of Eden.

 

[hobelim]

Scripture is true. The Scripture declares to be the very Word of God and true.

I didn't set aside the law of your god. I believed the Word of God the Bible

Alrighty then. You are believer in the Bible, a sinner who falsely claims to be 'in Christ'. Got it! Thanks for sharing!

Yes, I am a sinner. But, I am 'in Christ'

"To commit sin is to break Gods Law: Sin, in fact, is lawlessness. Christ appeared, as you know, to do away with sins, and there is no sin in him. No man who dwells in him is a sinner; the sinner has not seen him and does not know him.

My children, do not be misled: it is the man who does what is right who is righteous, as God is righteous; the man who sins is a child of the devil, for the devil has been a sinner from the first; and the Son of God appeared for the very purpose of undoing the devils work.

A child of God does not commit sin, because the divine seed remains in him; he cannot be a sinner because he is God's child. That is the distinction between the children of God and the children of the devil: no one who does not do what is right is God's child, nor is anyone who does not love his brother." 1 John 3:4-10

 

[Quantrill]

Alrighty then. You are believer in the Bible, a sinner who falsely claims to be 'in Christ'. Got it! Thanks for sharing!




"To commit sin is to break Gods Law: Sin, in fact, is lawlessness. Christ appeared, as you know, to do away with sins, and there is no sin in him. No man who dwells in him is a sinner; the sinner has not seen him and does not know him.

My children, do not be misled: it is the man who does what is right who is righteous, as God is righteous; the man who sins is a child of the devil, for the devil has been a sinner from the first; and the Son of God appeared for the very purpose of undoing the devils work.

A child of God does not commit sin, because the divine seed remains in him; he cannot be a sinner because he is God's child. That is the distinction between the children of God and the children of the devil: no one who does not do what is right is God's child, nor is anyone who does not love his brother." 1 John 3:4-10

And you ignore my questions to you...because you cannot answer.

Yes I am a believer in God, Christ, and the Bible. And yes, I am a sinner. Being a sinner doesn't disqualify one from being in Christ. In fact, just the opposite is true. You must be sinner to be in Christ. A sinner who believes and whose sins are covered.

Again, go back and read post #(304). You keep presenting the same post and ignoring that I have answered it in (304).

And, you, by the way, have stated you do not sin. Yet (1 John 1:10) calls you a liar. "If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us." My, oh my. That means the Word of God is not in you. You are a liar, a deceiver. But...we already knew that.

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[Quantrill]

There are many questions I have about the bible and its accuracy. Tje flood mwy be one of them though there are many others. The ages of some of the charzcters should raise questions too, no?

If you have questions about the Bible's accuracy, then you shouldn't believe it. Which I gather you don't.

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[shockedcanadian]

If you have questions about the Bible's accuracy, then you shouldn't believe it. Which I gather you don't.

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I question everything. I encircle the questions with a healthy dose of faith.

 

[Quantrill]

In post #(459) I touched on some truths that can be expanded upon. Note these verses.

(1 Cor. 15:22) "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive."

(1 Cor. 15:45) "And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit."

(1 Cor. 15:47) "The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven."

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[Quantrill]

I question everything. I encircle the questions with a healthy dose of faith.

Doubting the accuracy of the Bible is not a dose of faith. If you want to doubt it that's fine, but then don't present it as an act of faith. Oxymoron.

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[BreezeWood]

"If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."

that's a stretch, who would say they had not sinned before learning not to sin would not have known what no longer should be committed - is not to say the heavenly goal from the 1st century and before is - to sin no more - and when accomplished is the path to judgement and admission to the everlasting ... a major reason christianity is a false religion.

 

[toobfreak]

Point it out. I have answered all your questions.

Odd, they are MY questions, and to my mind, I'm not aware that you've answered a single one.

You just regurgitate some crap that satisfies you, if possible, some irrelevant and meaningless verse from the Bible that actually says nothing to the question I raised.

But then I forget---- one of the keys to successful Bible-thumping is taking any quote from anywhere in the Bible and then claiming it speaks to most whatever you want.

Gee, I bet you even think the Bible speaks to the problem of cellphone channel allotment conflicts!

 

[Failzero]

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