Zone1 Were there human beings before Adam and Eve?

[Quantrill]

Cartoon Catechism

It's just a fable, like Little Red Riding Hood, which also has a talking animal.

Don't quote the question and then not answer it.

As I have said to others, the Bible says differently than you do. Guess who I believe...hint not you.

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[InstantOn]

If you have red hair or hairs, you have some Neanderthal DNA.

 

[hobelim]

Cartoon Catechism

It's just a fable, like Little Red Riding Hood, which also has a talking animal.

Don't waste your time. He does not believe in a God who would let the big bad wolf eat grandma. That bastard!

 

[hobelim]

Yet you have nothing to say of any value pertaining to what was said.

What was said is that what you profess to believe is the way to eternal life, by setting aside Divine Law and turning to a lifeless matzo made by human hands that can neither seer hear speak or walk has no life to give and is not the Actual Body of Christ (which consists of WORDS that form the body of his teaching) that you worship on your knees and eat for spiritual life and then flush down the toilet, is the degrading practice that my God has condemned and forbidden under penalty of the death, a curse, that you so perfectly display completely unaware.

What do you have to say about that?

 

[toobfreak]

Not according to the Bible.
As I said, faith in Jesus Christ is the only way to eternal life.

At least according to the Bible which is a record of his life. But let's be real here, if God is real, then so is the soul which is eternal, which means we all have an eternal soul and love in God in any form leads us to eternal life.

But there are many many religions with many many aspects of God they worship and they all say they lead to eternal life.

So, unless you told me that you've extensively studied vedic science, Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, Jainism, and many other disciplines leading up to the time of Christ and rejected all of them as flawed except Christ as Lord, I'd have to take your statement above with a grain of salt.

We all have eternal life as the essence of God within us, as the spirit of God's son here on Earth or whatever--- all religion does, any religion, is allow us to find and recognize our true natures within ourselves.

 

[hobelim]

Yes, I am a sinner. But, I am 'in Christ'.

My my grandma! What big teeth you have! lol


To commit sin is to break Gods Law: Sin, in fact, is lawlessness. Christ appeared, as you know, to do away with sins, and there is no sin in him. No man who dwells in him is a sinner; the sinner has not seen him and does not know him.

My children, do not be misled: it is the man who does what is right who is righteous, as God is righteous; the man who sins is a child of the devil, for the devil has been a sinner from the first; and the Son of God appeared for the very purpose of undoing the devils work.

A child of God does not commit sin, because the divine seed remains in him; he cannot be a sinner because he is God's child. That is the distinction between the children of God and the children of the devil: no one who does not do what is right is God's child, nor is anyone who does not love his brother." 1 John 3:4-10



You're a deceiver, a conman, the epitome of a talking serpent, an actor and lying fraud. Just not a very good one. I was born immune to the poison of serpents. Your mind numbing sorcery has absolutely no effect on me at all.

**** off.

 

[Woodznutz]

Again, because you refuse to answer, what makes God, Adam and Eve real, and the serpent a 'literary construct'?

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It's a bogus question. The Bible has both fact and metaphor.

 

[Woodznutz]

It bothers me because you make up stuff and try to peddle it as Scripture. Which I love pointing out.



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Do your own study of the term "belly" in the account. You'll have two choices of meaning. See which one fits the narrative.

 

[Woodznutz]

It bothers me because you make up stuff and try to peddle it as Scripture. Which I love pointing out.



Quantrill

All you've pointed out is that you disagree. That's fine. Just leave the insults out of it.

 

[knuckles]

If Adam and Eve had four children, Cain and Jane, Abel and Mabel, and Cain and Jane produced a son, and Abel and Mabel produced a daughter, wouldn't they be cousins, and safe to marry and reproduce?

1st cousins are permitted to marry in most countries I do believe.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

We just fill in the blanks. The Bible is scarce on details.

And the ones it gives are generally false.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Actually, the Bible is quite detailed.

It sure isnt. Thats why the last few thousand years have been devoted to Christians trying to interpret it.

Thats why you are at odds with other Christians in this thread.

Because the Bible is vague and nonsensical and self contradictory.

 

[Quantrill]

What was said is that what you profess to believe is the way to eternal life, by setting aside Divine Law and turning to a lifeless matzo made by human hands that can neither seer hear speak or walk has no life to give and is not the Actual Body of Christ (which consists of WORDS that form the body of his teaching) that you worship on your knees and eat for spiritual life and then flush down the toilet, is the degrading practice that my God has condemned and forbidden under penalty of the death, a curse, that you so perfectly display completely unaware.

What do you have to say about that?

Eternal life is set by revelation given in the Bible. And, it is by faith in Jesus Christ. You don't believe the Bible, yet you want to use the Bible for your own benefit. To somehow elevate 'you' as such a devoted follower of your 'god'. Who is no god. He is just a creation of your own mind.

Again, what is the name of this so called god of yours. Where can I learn about him? If he is not interested in your salvation, since you are not a sinner, then what is he interested in?

How do you worship this 'god' of yours? No need for sacrifice...you don't need one. You are sinless...remember? So how do you worship this 'god' of yours?

I follow the Bible. What do you follow?

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[Quantrill]

At least according to the Bible which is a record of his life. But let's be real here, if God is real, then so is the soul which is eternal, which means we all have an eternal soul and love in God in any form leads us to eternal life.

But there are many many religions with many many aspects of God they worship and they all say they lead to eternal life.

So, unless you told me that you've extensively studied vedic science, Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, Jainism, and many other disciplines leading up to the time of Christ and rejected all of them as flawed except Christ as Lord, I'd have to take your statement above with a grain of salt.

We all have eternal life as the essence of God within us, as the spirit of God's son here on Earth or whatever--- all religion does, any religion, is allow us to find and recognize our true natures within ourselves.

Ok..let's be real. Bible says God is real and the Bible give the way to live eternally with God.

An eternal soul doesn't mean a soul that loves God. Where do you get that? People who are cast into hell, the Lake of Fire, have an eternal soul. It just exists in the Lake of Fire.

Well, find the one religion and go with it.

Take my statements as a grain of salt if you like. I believe the Bible. Not your science, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc. etc. etc.

All have eternal life, in that they exist...but where will it be spent. Eternity in the Lake of Fire, or eternity with God and Christ in Heaven. Which, as I have said, is hell for those in the Lake of Fire.

Eternity with God is eternal life. Eternity in the Lake of Fire is eteral death.

Your true nature is that you're a sinner separated from God. And Jesus Christ is the payment and sacrifice for your sins. And if you believe that and come to Christ as your Saviour, you will obtain eternal life. If you don't, you won't.

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[Quantrill]

My my grandma! What big teeth you have! lol


To commit sin is to break Gods Law: Sin, in fact, is lawlessness. Christ appeared, as you know, to do away with sins, and there is no sin in him. No man who dwells in him is a sinner; the sinner has not seen him and does not know him.

My children, do not be misled: it is the man who does what is right who is righteous, as God is righteous; the man who sins is a child of the devil, for the devil has been a sinner from the first; and the Son of God appeared for the very purpose of undoing the devils work.

A child of God does not commit sin, because the divine seed remains in him; he cannot be a sinner because he is God's child. That is the distinction between the children of God and the children of the devil: no one who does not do what is right is God's child, nor is anyone who does not love his brother." 1 John 3:4-10



You're a deceiver, a conman, the epitome of a talking serpent, an actor and lying fraud. Just not a very good one. I was born immune to the poison of serpents. Your mind numbing sorcery has absolutely no effect on me at all.

**** off.

(1 John 1:10) "If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."

Remember....you said you have not sinned. Therefore, you make God a liar. And you show that you are a liar.

As I said, I am a sinner, but I am in Christ.

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[toobfreak]

Ok..let's be real. Bible says God is real and the Bible give the way to live eternally with God.

Meaningless. Every religion says a similar thing.

An eternal soul doesn't mean a soul that loves God. Where do you get that?

Show me where I said a person's eternal soul loves God? The soul is a plenary /portion/ of God, so God is always in touch with all of us through our souls which is really a plenary part of Him.

I believe the Bible. Not your science, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc. etc. etc.

Only because you've been continually exposed to it all your life. You don't know even the first thing about the Garbhodakshayi Vishnu, you never even heard of it, so how can you form any opinion for it?

Your true nature is that you're a sinner separated from God.

Your true nature is that all souls separated from God living as individual entities are sinners by virtue of their being apart from God. Sin is living apart from God, not any particular act you perform in life.

 

[Quantrill]

It's a bogus question. The Bible has both fact and metaphor.

No, it's a real question that you cannot answer. Because it shows the emptiness of your interpretation. You attribute God, and Adam and Eve as real, but the serpent as a 'literary construct'. Yet you cannot explain why. Why? Because you just do it at your on whim. Whatever fits the way you want to see God. Not the way Scripture declares God to be.

When Scripture goes against your way, then it is all metaphor and symbolic and to be interpreted by how you see it.

In other words, b.s.

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[Quantrill]

Do your own study of the term "belly" in the account. You'll have two choices of meaning. See which one fits the narrative.

I already have. Go back and reread. Take notes if it helps.

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[Quantrill]

All you've pointed out is that you disagree. That's fine. Just leave the insults out of it.

No, I have pointed out that the Bible disagrees with you. Which is fine with me also. You are revealed as one who makes up stuff and use the Bible to do it. Wrongfully. I must agree that is an insult, but that is what you do.

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[Quantrill]

It sure isnt. Thats why the last few thousand years have been devoted to Christians trying to interpret it.

Thats why you are at odds with other Christians in this thread.

Because the Bible is vague and nonsensical and self contradictory.

Oh gee, who are those Christians I am at odds with? How do you know they are Christians. You assume a lot.

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