Zone1 Were there human beings before Adam and Eve?

Anthropological science postulates that Homo sapiens Sapiens probably existed for about a hundred thousand years, far pre-dating the allegorical Garden of Eden. The Genesis creation story is intended to describe the relationship between the Creator and mankind; it is not a scientific treatise.

Ya gotta have faith. No getting around it.
I believe the bodies we have now are much the same as the bodies God gave the angels with which to enjoy the newly created earth way back then. After the fall I believe God kept the rebelling angels on the earth and gave them over to the crude and monstrous bodies found in the fossil records as punishment.
 
Satan described in (1 Peter 5:8) as a roaring lion is a metaphor. 'as a roaring lion'. It describes Satans nature. No such language is used in (Gen. 3:1).

Just because there are metaphors and similes used in the Bible, doesn't mean you can make everything a metaphor or symbolic that you don't believe in the Bible. Which is what you and others do.

Again, why is God, Adam, and Eve, real, and the serpent a 'literary construct'? You have not answered.

Quantrill
The "serpent" (Hebrew: enchanter) was real. It just wasn't a physical serpent. The Hebrew allows a literal snake and a figurative one.
 
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No, it looks like the Bible disagrees with what you have made up.

Quantrill
Why does this bother you so much? Do like Unkotare, just hit "disagree" or "fake news".
Am I risking my salvation by believing the ark was made of cedar?
 
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The "serpent" (Hebrew: enchanter) was real. It just wasn't a physical serpent. The Hebrew allows a literal snake and a figurative one.
The word for serpent in Hebrew is nachash which is both a noun and an adjective meaning snake, brazen, shiny one, and/or someone who practices divination, the magical arts, sorcery, what is now well known as hypnotism, brainwashing, or mind control, the feared and revered stars of the ancient world forever condemned by God as the lowest of all human life forms,"Lower than cattle and all the wild beasts of the field." for 'beguiling' A&E into defying the command of God which was murder. If you eat the bullshit of a deceitful conartist you will surely die.

Just like when you were in grade school a talking snake is a reference to a person just like it is in every language.

If you don't believe me take a look at the brood of vipers currently defiling and contaminating the White House.
 
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All are sinners....unless you are telling me you are not a sinner. Are you...not a sinner?
Right. I am not a sinner. I always do exactly as my God commands. Its as easy as telling a conman to **** off.

I guess your god only wants those who are not sinners.
Not exactly. Sinners cannot enter the kingdom of heaven. The Law of my God is the firmament, basis, of Heaven. Either a person stands on the Law or is under it. The realm of my God is Heaven, the realm of the dead, like you, is hell under the condemnation of my God for your murders, sorcery, and for only loving and practicing deceit.

You think you can waste the life my God gave you defying his commands and not die before you are dead? Then what? You expect presents from my God and a warm welcome into his kingdom after defying my God for life?

Damn. As clever and crafty as talking serpents may be with their sorcery, they are really not very bright after all.

Thus no need of salvation for them or you...correct?
A person who takes part in the first resurrection from the tomb of false beliefs and vile and degrading religious practices is no longer is subject to judgment for they have already passed from death to eternal life. Those who take part in the first resurrection cannot be harmed by the second death which is death of the physical body.

More questions which will go unanswered.
Pft.

If you are a sinner you should take some time out of your busy day lying and strive to become a better person. You can start by stopping your pretentious bullshit. You are like an unemployed actor reciting lines in a dark alley.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Consider yourself defrocked.
 
Pardon while I vomit.
"Take, from my hand, this cup of fiery wine and make all the nations to whom I send you drink it. When they have drunk it they will vomit and go mad; such is the sword that I am sending among them."

"I have not come to bring peace but a sword."

"From his mouth there went a sharp sword with which to smite the nations."

"Take this cup of wine and drink it, all of you. The is my blood, the blood of the covenant."

"Just art thou, in these thy judgments, thou Holy One who art and wast; for they shed the blood of thy people and of thy prophets and thou hast given them blood to drink."

He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword.


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Not so. That supposed 'literary construct' of yours called a serpent used to walk upright. But was cursed and made to crawl on its belly.

Nothing to indicate God was looking at Eve when He cursed the serpent. Another fabrication of yours. (Gen. 3:14-15)

But, none of it should matter to you and others. After all, to you, Adam and Eve were just literary constructs also...right? And surely God must just be a 'literary construct' too.

Pardon while I vomit.

Quantrill
Warm and Fuzzy Blowtorch

You're bringing out the true nastiness behind touchy-feely Christianity. You Christofascists always give yourselves away.
 
Why does this bother you so much? Do like Unkotare, just hit "disagree" or "fake news".
Am I risking my salvation by believing the ark was made of cedar?

It bothers me because you make up stuff and try to peddle it as Scripture. Which I love pointing out.

I don't know about your salvation. Anyone who does what you do with Scripture is suspect in my opinion.

Again, because you refuse to answer, what makes God, Adam and Eve real, and the serpent a 'literary construct'?

Quantrill
 
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Right. I am not a sinner. I always do exactly as my God commands. Its as easy as telling a conman to **** off.


Not exactly. Sinners cannot enter the kingdom of heaven. The Law of my God is the firmament, basis, of Heaven. Either a person stands on the Law or is under it. The realm of my God is Heaven, the realm of the dead, like you, is hell under the condemnation of my God for your murders, sorcery, and for only loving and practicing deceit.

You think you can waste the life my God gave you defying his commands and not die before you are dead? Then what? You expect presents from my God and a warm welcome into his kingdom after defying my God for life?

Damn. As clever and crafty as talking serpents may be with their sorcery, they are really not very bright after all.


A person who takes part in the first resurrection from the tomb of false beliefs and vile and degrading religious practices is no longer is subject to judgment for they have already passed from death to eternal life. Those who take part in the first resurrection cannot be harmed by the second death which is death of the physical body.


Pft.

If you are a sinner you should take some time out of your busy day lying and strive to become a better person. You can start by stopping your pretentious bullshit. You are like an unemployed actor reciting lines in a dark alley.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Consider yourself defrocked.

So, you confess you're not a sinner. Now I know you are a liar. But I always knew that.

Who is your god? What is his name. Where does one get the instructions how to learn about your god...you? Your god is only in your mind. A god of your making.

Where did you get all that information about the first resurrection and the second death? Did your god reveal it to you? How?

Yes, I am a sinner. But, I am 'in Christ'. You will have to take it with Him.

Why should I be ashamed? Because I believe the Bible? I believe God who Authored the Bible? I believe in and accept Christ as my Lord and Saviour?

Take that up with God and see how far it gets you.

Quantrill
 
"Take, from my hand, this cup of fiery wine and make all the nations to whom I send you drink it. When they have drunk it they will vomit and go mad; such is the sword that I am sending among them."

"I have not come to bring peace but a sword."

"From his mouth there went a sharp sword with which to smite the nations."

"Take this cup of wine and drink it, all of you. The is my blood, the blood of the covenant."

"Just art thou, in these thy judgments, thou Holy One who art and wast; for they shed the blood of thy people and of thy prophets and thou hast given them blood to drink."

He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword.


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Is the Bible the Word of God? Is Jesus Christ the God/Man, 100% God and 100% Man? Is Jesus Christ the Saviour of mankind to save many from their sins?

Yet you like to use Scripture to peddle your phony god.

Quantrill
 
Please feel free to express yourself! It's very entertaining.

Yet you have nothing to say of any value pertaining to what was said. You resort to 'pictures' as so many do when they don't know what they are talking about.

You contradict yourself constantly. Your god is a figment of your imagination and you try and peddle yourself as some dedicated follower. You are a phony. As your god is a phony.

Quantrill
 
Warm and Fuzzy Blowtorch

You're bringing out the true nastiness behind touchy-feely Christianity. You Christofascists always give yourselves away.

Awww...are your feelings hurt? You want the touchy-feely stuff? Go somewhere else. Somewhere where they lie to you and make you feel good.

Quantrill
 

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