Were the Confederates traitors

[Quantrill]

A state can't leave.

Who says...you?

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[Unkotare]

The Articles of Confederation were thrown out the window. Any change, any amendment to the Articles had to be by unanomous consent. And in Philedlphia in 1787 they couldn't get it. So they threw out the Ariticles and made a new Constitution.

Quantrill

How long have you served on the Supreme Court? What? Never? THEN STFU, wannabe traitor.

 

[Unkotare]

It is not treason in America as America allows for secession. ...

Wrong.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

No question slavery was allowed

But most of the country was turning against it
It was morally wrong and the Confederacy was formed to ensure it was maintained. Confederacy was an Evil Empire on par with Nazi Germany

Not something to be honored

Slavery Was Punishment. Wild Jungle Savages Needed to Be Tamed.

 

[Quantrill]

Wags Wearing Wigs

The Preamble guaranteed "a more perfect union." That was impossible from the very beginning. The political ignorance of those who wrote that elitist manifesto, the Constitution, was the ultimate cause of the inevitable secession.

The Constitution is what the Union is founded on. Like it or not.

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[longly]

And they lost. Because they were weak losers. Who fought a weak losing cause.

Now where's the Epstein files?

No, the South lost because they were not prepared for the war. They were in the same situation we’re in today—if we’re forced to fight a war against China or Russia, we’ll most likely lose too. The South didn’t lose because they lacked outstanding officers and men. In fact, they had some of the best troops and commanders. What they lacked was the material needed to fight a sustained war. That’s an extremely difficult obstacle to overcome. In order for the South to win, they had to keep winning every battle and seize Union war materials—including food. That’s an incredibly hard thing to do, especially when your enemy has a three-to-one advantage in manpower, materiel, and money. Actually, the Union’s advantage in manufacturing and financial resources was even greater than that.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Wrong.

The North recognized secession by the fact that it left the South's senatorial and representative seats vacant.

 

[Quantrill]

Yes you said that. Wouldn't keep you from Fort Leavenworth.

You know who never brings this crap up? Everyone outside of a few crappy Southern states. Everyone else-Texas and Florida included-have moved the **** on.

Power to put one in Leavenworth doens't mean one is right by the Constitution.

The North had power to wage war against the South illegally according to the Constitution. The power to do something doesn't make them right. The North wanted that power labeled as right by the courts. So they would try Jeff Davis for treason proving secession was treason.

But they balked. Legally they couldn't do it. So they let the most hated man in the North go free. Better to let him go free then for the world to see that the North was the traitor. That the world would see that the North was responsible for some 800,000 deaths and the destruction. Not the South.

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[The Sage of Main Street]

No, the South lost because they were not prepared for the war. They were in the same situation we’re in today—if we’re forced to fight a war against China or Russia, we’ll most likely lose too. The South didn’t lose because they lacked outstanding officers and men. In fact, they had some of the best troops and commanders. What they lacked was the material needed to fight a sustained war. That’s an extremely difficult obstacle to overcome. In order for the South to win, they had to keep winning every battle and seize Union war materials—including food. That’s an incredibly hard thing to do, especially when your enemy has a three-to-one advantage in manpower, materiel, and money. Actually, the Union’s advantage in manufacturing and financial resources was even greater than that.

The Fake Idealists Quickly Became Robber Barons

Also, if truth could be told instead of sold, the North's equivalent of slavery was its sweatshops. All the South had to do to call off the Abolitionists was to finance the labor-union movement. That is the only logical conclusion from the fact that the Republicans were both touchy-feely Abolitionists and union-busters.

 

[longly]

Yes you said that. Wouldn't keep you from Fort Leavenworth.

You know who never brings this crap up? Everyone outside of a few crappy Southern states. Everyone else-Texas and Florida included-have moved the **** on.

You, Sir, strike me as an imperialist—someone to whom principles don’t matter, only the size of your fist. Whoever has the biggest hammer rules. That's the mentality of prison life.

 

[Zincwarrior]

It is not treason in America as America allows for secession. But America supports all other secession in other countries. Quite the hypocrite.

Quantrill

No, it literally doesn't.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Who says...you?

Quantrill

SCOTUS, the US government.

I would be ok with Mississippi leaving though.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Slavery Was Punishment. Wild Jungle Savages Needed to Be Tamed.

You're totally not a racist piece of shit!

 

[Quantrill]

SCOTUS, the US government.

I would be ok with Mississippi leaving though.

Where in 1861?

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[Zincwarrior]

A reminder, they were of course traitors. They had to be pardoned.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Where in 1861?

Quantrill

No, now.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Who says...you?

Quantrill

SCOTUS and the US. Research is a thing.

 

[longly]

No, now.

That would be unfortunate and tragic, because we’d have to kill them, suppress them, and take away their statehood. But if the people voted for secession, I would not charge the leaders with treason,

 

[Zincwarrior]

That would be unfortunate and tragic, because we’d have to kill them, suppress them, and take away their statehood. But if the people voted for secession, I would not charge the leaders with treason,

Nah, dump Mississippi and Arkansas, take over Canada.

 

[Unkotare]

The North recognized secession by the fact that it left the South's senatorial and representative seats vacant.

NO country in this world EVER recognized the so-called "confederacy." It did not exist. Just a bunch of scumbag traitors killing honorable Americans.