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Well regulated doesn’t mean what you think it does. When the Constitution was written “well regulated” meant properly working. An accurate marine chronometer was “well regulated” meaning it kept accurate time which was necessary to determine longitude and latitude for navigation. MODERN meaning is controlled.Like Scalia, many choose to simply ignore the "well regulated" part. However, The Founders never indicated any of it being optional. To the contrary, they declared it "necessary" and yes, "to the security of a free state" - meaning their particular State, not necessarily "their nation". They were indeed opposed to having a standing army. Only by allowing the individual States to worry about protecting the entire Union (in times of peace, i.e. when there would be no standing army) could they get enough agreement to have the document signed in the first place.
When did the British authorize the Minutemen who fought at Lexington and Concord to possess not only pistols, swords and muskets, but artillery as well. The British were on their way to confiscate arms, powder and artillery owned by citizens who, to say the least, didn’t think highly of the British Crown.Correct.
Armed citizens cannot unilaterally declare themselves a ‘militia’ absent authorization from the state or Federal government.
Absent such authorization, they’re nothing but a lawless gang of armed thugs.
In the Revolution and War of 1812, militias were rarely effective fighting forces by the standards of the day. They were willing, but usually poorly disciplined and their officers generally didn’t know the first thing about fighting battles. Militia had a reputation of turning tail and running when confronted by regular British troops. In fact one Army unit, the Sixth Infantry Regiment’s unit motto is “regulars by god”. It’s from the Battle of Chippewa during the War of 1812 when a unit dressed in militia uniform mounted a steady attack on British positions. The British Commander is reputed to have said when observing the demeanor of the American troops, “Those are regulars, by god”.Except, that isn't what "well regulated" meant back in the day. That is only one part part of what "well regulated" meant.
"Well regulated" also meant that the militia had trained to a sufficient degree that they could fight as a single coherent unit instead of fighting as a bunch of random individuals.
Overall, "well regulated" meant that the militia was an effective fighting force that could kick ass. And a militia needed both supplies and training to achieve that.
The NG keeps its weapons in the arms room of their armories. As further security measures, the firing pins are kept under tight security an another location and the ammunition is in a third location. To steal functioning weapons, thieves would have to rob two out of three secure locations.They are famous for their neutrality. We are not. I have only been there a couple of times, finding it beautiful and high priced. I do not know how their militia functions. We do have absolute gun nuts here. The National Guard is trained to Army Standards and is quite well regulated. You have no idea what is in those vaults every small, middle sized town and large city. The security usually has to be quite tight, just to keep stuff from walking away. I have been a report of survey investigating officer, recovering material in some of the worst neighborhoods in cities, where police insisted I have police backup just to go investigate and recover. Your idea will not work here, and you definitely do not want these people running around with your full auto weapons on their own recognizance.
That’s stupid. There were three groups in the colonies, one third supported the British, another third supported the patriots and the third called a pox on both their houses. So join or die was a myth.No they walked in to churches and bars and said join or die. Try a again commie
The Army Reserve is the Army Reserve. They have no state mission. Unlikely you will convince anyone.Who said anything about sending a majority or all of a state's National Guard personnel overseas at the same time or at any time? The Constitution does not give the Federal Government the authority to send a single militia member overseas. Not all, not the majority, and NOT ONE. The National Guard is regular army reserve and subject to deployment overseas and are often sent overseas. This means that the National Guard is NOT the militia. Your post is pure nonsense.
Kept in vault in arms room, yes. Firing pins in another location, no. Limited ammo if any stored at most armories at any one given time, unless going to the range.The NG keeps its weapons in the arms room of their armories. As further security measures, the firing pins are kept under tight security an another location and the ammunition is in a third location. To steal functioning weapons, thieves would have to rob two out of three secure locations.
Self-preservation and self-expansion are not valid government interests.It is exactly what "government interest" means here.
True. But the Supreme Court created the rule and has been using it for all our rights for decades now.And there are no "government interest" exceptions to the Constitution. It doesn't matter if it saves one life or a million lives, the right to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT be infringed.
The Constitution is neither personal, nor subjective, nor irrelevant.In your personal, subjective, and irrelevant view.
That is incorrect. It matters what the Constitution says.The only definition of the militia that matters is what the courts decide – ultimately the Supreme Court.
The good news is, I'm not wrong.But you’re entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong.
Self-preservation and self-expansion are not valid government interests.
True. But the Supreme Court created the rule and has been using it for all our rights for decades now.
Adherence to the rule will still strike down a lot of bad gun laws, so I'll take it.
You make it sound like I'm the only one saying the National Guard is not the militia. It's a fact. No one will ever convince you that the Constitution rules because you don't care. I don't really care whether I convince you or not; I never expect to convince you. I simply state the truth and the facts and back it up with the Constitution and with original intent.The Army Reserve is the Army Reserve. They have no state mission. Unlikely you will convince anyone.
Yet democrats think NG / Military & Leo’s Will side with the Communists / Marxists / Socialists if it all goes downThank you.
So many people try to make the word "militia" into a standing army. It isn't. It is citizens picking up their own arms to defend their nation in a time of need. What kind of lunatic would invade a nation with +400 guns in private citizen's hands. Hitler and Yamamoto knew that.
The Guard, Military, and LEO will side with the communists and marxists when it all goes down. Don't be fooled into thinking that these groups are the same groups of 40 or 50 years ago. They are not. These groups are controlled and staffed by woke, liberal, LGBTQ+-allied, Antifa militants these days. There are men wearing skirts in the Army today.Yet democrats think NG / Military & Leo’s Will side with the Communists / Marxists / Socialists if it all goes down
You don't seem like an influential type to me.You make it sound like I'm the only one saying the National Guard is not the militia. It's a fact. No one will ever convince you that the Constitution rules because you don't care. I don't really care whether I convince you or not; I never expect to convince you. I simply state the truth and the facts and back it up with the Constitution and with original intent.
Your mind is narrow and basically closed but for others who might have an open mind and read the logic and Constitution and who come to these forums looking for answers, I might influence one. Otherwise, not one of the regulars here is ever going to convince another regular, on the opposite side of things, of anything.
Another example of the right’s willful ignorance of the law, the right’s contempt for the rule of law, and the right’s disdain for the Constitution and individual liberty.It also will allow many gun control laws to stand. I won't take it.
I take the Constitution, according to original intent and definition of the words in it. I do not support the Courts violating the Constitution in things that make my life better or in things that make my life worse - because, in the end, every time the Court violates the Constitution it makes liberty disappear.
My reserve unit kept its firing pins at another location. The only operational weapons we had in the arms room were the M-1911A1s we had.Kept in vault in arms room, yes. Firing pins in another location, no. Limited ammo if any stored at most armories at any one given time, unless going to the range.
All rights are subject to limits and restrictions, including the rights enshrined in the Second Amendment – whether those limits and restrictions are rational or not may be subject to debate.Obviously, there are rational conditions on any "right".
Never been in the Army Reserves. Commanded to Armor Units in the Guard that did not seperate the firing pins from the weapons. Long after retired, was called in for logistic support as a contractor and was over the arms rooms of two different units at three locations, and over the inventories. Nothing had changed. I even picked up weapons at state HQ for transport to the unit. They were fully functional when I picked them up and fully functional when I locked them in the racks in the vault back at the unit.My reserve unit kept its firing pins at another location. The only operational weapons we had in the arms room were the M-1911A1s we had.
Breaking new ground?Well regulated militia can be created on the basis of the police. The US police are subordinate to the state and independent of the federals. Armed male can be trained by the police, and participate in police operations as an auxiliary force. This is the shortest way to create a militia.
The constitution says that the creation of a militia is necessary.
and even more so where the first amendment is concerned right?All rights are subject to limits and restrictions, including the rights enshrined in the Second Amendment
It is not rational to limit and restrict constitutional freedom– whether those limits and restrictions are rational or not may be subject to debate.
The great thing about all this is that the people get to decide all this and not the infringing congress of an authoritarian government.That a limit or restriction of a right might not be rational doesn’t necessarily make it un-Constitutional; some firearm regulatory measures are certainly misguided and ineffective, such as magazine capacity restrictions (some may perceive them as not being rational), but they don’t violate the Second Amendment.
