We righties need to be prepared for a Trump loss

[charwin95]

Best Economy in 50 years? That is incorrect. Below 2 links one from Cleveland proved you and Trump are both wrong. On top of wrecking the farmers all over US.


The Economy lucky if can recover 2022 because of Trump disastrous handling of the virus and economy without any plan. Zero.
Biden tax increases. Do you honestly believe he will increase taxes in the middle of crisis? Biden will increase tax when the economy recover. Trump tax cuts benefited the .1 % only that economist called it a sham.

Market will NOT crash down if Biden will win. Guarantee.

Minimum Wage.... you can NOT prove non that a business had close because of MW. There are thousand maybe millions of companies like mine ( $16.+) that do not start with MW. Why is that a problem? Even Walmart will increase their hourly wages from $18 to $21. Link below..... Why? It’s very good for the economy..... With or without the MW increase automation is coming.

Yes, I do believe Biden will increase taxes. Why? Because he stated so, and mentioned nothing about when. I can't wait to tell my parents I am at the top 1%, because I got a tax decrease not only in my paycheck, but when I filed my returns for 2018. Plus no Commie Care fines either. I saved quite a few buck thanks to Trump. Yes, the market will crash. I didn't have plans on withdrawing from my IRA, but if Biden wins, you bet I'm getting at least some of my money out of there. Biden is just as anti-business as DumBama.

As for your supposed employees, if you are paying them $16.00 an hour, do you think they will continue to work for you making only $1.00 an hour over minimum wage? Of course not. $16.00 is twice the rate of the current national minimum wage. Therefore if they want to stay at that level, they will be demanding you pay them $32.00 an hour to maintain staying at twice the minimum wage. Good luck with that, and Vote for Biden.

Oh boy!
1. Trump tax cuts that you keeps bragging. You only made a couple of hundred of $, you don’t have a regular pay check right now, you are the only one I know that keeps repeating how good is the tax cuts. But the links below tells you differently.

2. Where does it say that Biden is anti business? Show me...

Where and what are Obama’s policies that are anti business? Show me.

3. Minimum Wage.... Why in the world would my employees or others care what other people’s make in other companies? Oh I’m making $16.25 they are making $15. I’m going to quit. That is so Silly. There are thousands of companies that start way over then $16 and they are not quitting. The increase to $15 is also an increments that is already happening.
Read the link what the economist are saying about MW.


In 2015 Seattle was the first city to initiate the $15 MW increase..... Anti MW like you was crying screaming OH MY GOD Seattle is going to close....... 5 years later. NONE of Seattle businesses or establishments close. None.
Look at In & Out hamburger MW and success.

These 7 charts show Trump's tax cuts still haven't been the economic 'rocket fuel' he promised, 2 years after the fact

The law achieved none of the ambitious goals that Republicans set when they were selling the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.

markets.businessinsider.com

Column: Trump’s tax cut was a mammoth fraud

The 2017 tax cut, we can now see, didn't live up to any of the promises.

www.chicagotribune.com

Americans thought they got a tax cut. What they really got was a tax increase that hasn’t yet taken effect. When you cut taxes but don’t cut spending to match, as the Nobel laureate economist Milton Friedman often noted, you are not cutting taxes but merely delaying them. And total spending has not been reduced; it has been raised.

Why America Needs a $15 Minimum Wage

The federal minimum wage is just $7.25 and has not increased since 2009. The Raise the Wage Act of 2019 would gradually raise the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour by 2024. Here is how it would work:

In-N-Out managers make $160,000 per year

In-N-Out workers can start at $13 an hour (minimum wage is $11 for California's larger companies), and work their way up to that $160,000-ish salary without a college degree.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Oh boy!
1. Trump tax cuts that you keeps bragging. You only made a couple of hundred of $, you don’t have a regular pay check right now, you are the only one I know that keeps repeating how good is the tax cuts. But the links below tells you differently.

2. Where does it say that Biden is anti business? Show me...

Where and what are Obama’s policies that are anti business? Show me.

3. Minimum Wage.... Why in the world would my employees or others care what other people’s make in other companies? Oh I’m making $16.25 they are making $15. I’m going to quit. That is so Silly. There are thousands of companies that start way over then $16 and they are not quitting. The increase to $15 is also an increments that is already happening.
Read the link what the economist are saying about MW.


In 2015 Seattle was the first city to initiate the $15 MW increase..... Anti MW like you was crying screaming OH MY GOD Seattle is going to close....... 5 years later. NONE of Seattle businesses or establishments close. None.
Look at In & Out hamburger MW and success.

These 7 charts show Trump's tax cuts still haven't been the economic 'rocket fuel' he promised, 2 years after the fact

The law achieved none of the ambitious goals that Republicans set when they were selling the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.

markets.businessinsider.com

Column: Trump’s tax cut was a mammoth fraud

The 2017 tax cut, we can now see, didn't live up to any of the promises.

www.chicagotribune.com

Americans thought they got a tax cut. What they really got was a tax increase that hasn’t yet taken effect. When you cut taxes but don’t cut spending to match, as the Nobel laureate economist Milton Friedman often noted, you are not cutting taxes but merely delaying them. And total spending has not been reduced; it has been raised.

Why America Needs a $15 Minimum Wage

The federal minimum wage is just $7.25 and has not increased since 2009. The Raise the Wage Act of 2019 would gradually raise the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour by 2024. Here is how it would work:

In-N-Out managers make $160,000 per year

In-N-Out workers can start at $13 an hour (minimum wage is $11 for California's larger companies), and work their way up to that $160,000-ish salary without a college degree.

How ridiculous. Of course your workers care about how much minimum wage is. That's why they don't work for minimum or close to minimum wage now. Why would it matter on a national level? Because the cost of living will increase right along with minimum wage, and the people who make the minimum wage today will be no further ahead. Within a few years, they'll be right back to where they are today. Your workers are not going to work for you at only a dollar over MW. They might as well get a MW job with less hours perhaps, less physical work, and less responsibility. As you stated, many companies pay well over minimum wage, and your workers will go to those companies when they are forced to increase their pay.

Your industry is stable and cannot be moved overseas, but many industries will be able to. Outside of a stretch wrap machine, yours can't be automated, but other companies will make that investment. You can't outsource your work to cheaper labor countries, but many others can. You have no idea of how much of a disaster this will be.

Cleveland is entirely Democrat run. Several years ago when other places were making $15.00 the minimum, Council suggested Cleveland do the same. After doing the research, they voted against their own bill because they knew it would chase businesses to the suburbs. So they approached the county, and the county didn't even entertain the idea for the same reason. It would push businesses out of our county to other counties. The idea was dropped.

DumBama was the most anti-business President in our lifetime, and Creepy Joe possibly even worse. He increased taxes on businesses, he closed down roll-you-own cigarette shops all across the country. He stopped the American Indians from selling cigarettes through the mail. He closed down the Gulf and the associated businesses that made their money from oil workers. He's attacked Gibson guitar companies several times, the final one where they issued a threat to leave the country. He increased taxes on all medical supplies which included dentists, doctors, hospitals and even veterinarians to fund his goofy medical care plan. He attacked banks and credit card companies. They made their money off of irresponsible borrowers. After he stopped them from high rate increases and penalties, they had to make that money back somewhere else, and that somewhere else was responsible borrowers like myself. He closed down auto dealerships across the country. He force GM to fire their CEO. He closed down coal mines, and tried to close down electric companies that used coal, plus made some spend millions of dollars to upgrade their company to be greener. He closed down dozens of hospitals, particularly in rural areas because of Commie Care.

More Seattle restaurants close doors as $15 minimum wage approaches - Shift Washington

Seattle’s $15 minimum wage law goes into effect on April 1, 2015. As that date approaches, restaurants across the city are making the financial decision to close shop. The Washington Policy Center writes that “closings have occurred across the city, from Grub in the upscale Queen Anne Hill...

shiftwa.org

Fight For $15 Meets Reality: D.C. Restaurants Lost 1,400 Jobs During First Half of 2016

In a shocking twist, D.C. is not exempt to the basic laws of economics.

reason.com

Not just Seattle. NYC feeling the heat from minimum wage hikes

Start spreading the news...

hotair.com

Hike in minimum wage prompts more closings of San Francisco restaurants

San Francisco's higher minimum wage is causing an increasing number of restaurants to go out of business even before it is fully phased in, a new study by the Harvard Business School found.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Pizza Shop Announces Impending Closure Due to Seattle's $15 Minimum Wage Hike

Seattle, WA- "People like me are finding themselves in a tougher situation than ever," said Seattle pizza shop employee Devin Jeran in comments to Q13 FOX

truthinmedia.com

 

[Seawytch]

How can you call yourself a Trump supporter? Wearing a mask that doesn't protect you, sanitizing, and washing hands your hands is for pussies. I'll bet you even follow your mayor and your governor's guidelines. You know you're going to lose your Red Trump hat if you keep this up.

BTW You don't need antibacterial soap. Washing with any hand soap for 20 secs does the deed. The 20 seconds is important.

Simply making the point that I do all these things while at the same time, reject the notion it should be mandated by government. Another point that shoots down your (and every other liberal) argument is that we Trump supporters do as he says and march in lockstep, and that's why Trump is responsible for all these cases and deaths. We are not liberals. We think for ourselves.

The CDC reported that most of the Covid infections were with people who wore masks. There are credible medical professionals who have stated masks are a waste of time, and may even do you harm if worn for a prolonged period of time. As I mentioned earlier, even the WHO came out with a statement that lockdowns are not the solution.

What we on the right do is weigh our particular circumstance, and make our own decisions. One size does not fit all, especially with a virus we've only begun to do research on.

With the exception of N95 mask which have been professionally fitted, masks provide protection for others but very limited protection for the wearer. We knew that last March. The only way to stop or slow down an airborne epidemic without a vaccine is by putting a barrier between the carrier and others. Masks, distancing, and quarantining work well in slowing down transmission. Countries that follow the guidelines have done well. Those that haven't have done poorer.

In March there was a picture of Trump wearing a masks. However, after Redfield said they protected others not the wearer, we rarely saw Trump in a mask. I guess he though if didn't protect me, it was worthless. So many of our problems we face such as, coronavirus, poverty, homelessness, global warming, etc are due to a lack of social conciseness.

if mask work why did Harris and Biden staffers get covid 19?

Probably from the same place other people that wear masks get it, dining out or from a close personal contact.

Stop crying. Get it and recover. Booo hooo it’s a virus with a. 99.96% survival rate

It’s a virus that has killed over 200,000 Americans. You gonna tell their families “boo hoo, suck it up”?

Typical un-American Trumpster.

Yep. Average age of death is 78. Booo hooo. F you, bitch.

Testy, testy inhumane Trumpster. It's totes adorbs that I'm the bitch because I care about my fellow citizens. What does that make you who doesn't care about his fellow Americans?

If you cared you would care about kids stuck at home on zoom calls and missing out on sports. You would care about small business owners. You would care about people depressed and suicidal due to lockdowns and or loss of business. You would care about higher cases of drug and alcohol abuse and lastly you would care about higher cases of child abuse. You stupid bitch.

I do care about those things and I know the only way to get them back it to control the outbreaks of this virus. Sending everyone out to catch it and risk dying isn’t a plan.

Locking child abusers with children isn't either. Treat people like adults.

Oh please. Stop pretending like Republicans suddenly care about abusers and their victims. If they did, social programs to help combat it would get a hell of a lot more money and time than they currently do.

People can be treated like adults when they act like adults.

Trump tosses masks and offers to kiss crowd after doc says he's not infectious

DONALD Trump tossed coronavirus masks into the crowd and offered to KISS his supporters at a packed rally in Florida on Monday night. The president returned to the campaign trail hours after the Wh…

www.the-sun.com

Huh? I am an Independent and a logical person. My kids are stuck at home and cannot even play sports due to this so called virus that has a 99.96% survival rate and Trump at 74 and heavy recovered in three days. I am tired of pansies like you and the media making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Listen to you. You sound like a petulant child being denied his favorite toy. People are dying. 1,000 Americans a day. That's many 9/11s a week and stupid fucking Trump supporters can't even see their way to wearing a damn mask...that will hasten our economic recovery and SAVE LIVES.

We all want to "get back to normal" or at least near normal. We can't do that without masks, testing and tracing. If Trump were the leader we needed during this pandemic, we'd be well on our way to an economic recovery like other countries are managing to do.

No you don't want to get back to normal..... you're too busy reveling in your new sense of outrage and hysterical fear. You get to feel oppressed, outraged, titillated by fear, and it's an excuse and a justification for your controlling the movement and behavior of others.

You wouldn't have it any other way, and you gleefully recount every additional death to use as ammo against the rest of us, who aren't scared little pussies like you.

Your behavior is disgusting..... consider suicide.

I would have it a very different way. I would love to be celebrating that we’re rounding the curve and that infections are going down and the deaths are decreasing, but that’s not happening. It’s not gonna happen until Trump is out of office because he is a danger to society.

Deaths are decreasing. Name one professional or college athlete to die from COVID. Just one. The danger to society is people like you. People who loot, riot, burn, scream and shout and disrespect our brave police officers. I had The virus. You didn’t. So please don’t tell me how to feel about this.

Wrong.

Coronavirus cases and deaths rising rapidly in America

Coronavirus infections are surging across several states — and the national trajectory is worsening. Lilia Luciano has the latest on the current outbreak.

www.cbsnews.com

I have never looted, burned or rioted. I am retired military, asshole.

They aren’t rising due to COVID despite what the fake news says. You may not physically do those acts but you support the party that supports them by calling them a “myth” and mostly peaceful and calling Antifa an idea. Spare me. Again, what is the average age of people dying from COVID? You keep dodging that question.

Yes, they are rising due to COVID.

Seriously, what planet do you live on?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/10/13/coronavirus-cases-rising/

Then why is the average age of those dying 78? Do you want to lockdown forever?

Nobody wants to lockdown at all...and we wouldn't have to if people followed simple guidelines...like WEARING A FUCKING MASK and socially distancing.

Other countries are managing to "get back to normal" and their economies are recovering. Ours never will as long as we have have a patchwork of mitigation measures and some places that refuse to put any in place. Jesus, nobody is even talking about lockdowns anymore except where there are clusters and outbreaks.

Biden did during the debate. My kids are learning via zoom, fans aren’t allowed in NFL stadiums. It’s not normal.

Biden did what during the debate? Don’t you fucking morons understand that we wouldn’t have to shut down if you would follow CDC guidelines?

That is correct. Schools are shut down because they keep having outbreaks. The NFL doesn’t have fans because you don’t want to have crowds during this time. It’s temporary, deal with it.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

How can you call yourself a Trump supporter? Wearing a mask that doesn't protect you, sanitizing, and washing hands your hands is for pussies. I'll bet you even follow your mayor and your governor's guidelines. You know you're going to lose your Red Trump hat if you keep this up.

BTW You don't need antibacterial soap. Washing with any hand soap for 20 secs does the deed. The 20 seconds is important.

Simply making the point that I do all these things while at the same time, reject the notion it should be mandated by government. Another point that shoots down your (and every other liberal) argument is that we Trump supporters do as he says and march in lockstep, and that's why Trump is responsible for all these cases and deaths. We are not liberals. We think for ourselves.

The CDC reported that most of the Covid infections were with people who wore masks. There are credible medical professionals who have stated masks are a waste of time, and may even do you harm if worn for a prolonged period of time. As I mentioned earlier, even the WHO came out with a statement that lockdowns are not the solution.

What we on the right do is weigh our particular circumstance, and make our own decisions. One size does not fit all, especially with a virus we've only begun to do research on.

With the exception of N95 mask which have been professionally fitted, masks provide protection for others but very limited protection for the wearer. We knew that last March. The only way to stop or slow down an airborne epidemic without a vaccine is by putting a barrier between the carrier and others. Masks, distancing, and quarantining work well in slowing down transmission. Countries that follow the guidelines have done well. Those that haven't have done poorer.

In March there was a picture of Trump wearing a masks. However, after Redfield said they protected others not the wearer, we rarely saw Trump in a mask. I guess he though if didn't protect me, it was worthless. So many of our problems we face such as, coronavirus, poverty, homelessness, global warming, etc are due to a lack of social conciseness.

if mask work why did Harris and Biden staffers get covid 19?

Probably from the same place other people that wear masks get it, dining out or from a close personal contact.

Stop crying. Get it and recover. Booo hooo it’s a virus with a. 99.96% survival rate

It’s a virus that has killed over 200,000 Americans. You gonna tell their families “boo hoo, suck it up”?

Typical un-American Trumpster.

Yep. Average age of death is 78. Booo hooo. F you, bitch.

Testy, testy inhumane Trumpster. It's totes adorbs that I'm the bitch because I care about my fellow citizens. What does that make you who doesn't care about his fellow Americans?

If you cared you would care about kids stuck at home on zoom calls and missing out on sports. You would care about small business owners. You would care about people depressed and suicidal due to lockdowns and or loss of business. You would care about higher cases of drug and alcohol abuse and lastly you would care about higher cases of child abuse. You stupid bitch.

I do care about those things and I know the only way to get them back it to control the outbreaks of this virus. Sending everyone out to catch it and risk dying isn’t a plan.

Locking child abusers with children isn't either. Treat people like adults.

Oh please. Stop pretending like Republicans suddenly care about abusers and their victims. If they did, social programs to help combat it would get a hell of a lot more money and time than they currently do.

People can be treated like adults when they act like adults.

Trump tosses masks and offers to kiss crowd after doc says he's not infectious

DONALD Trump tossed coronavirus masks into the crowd and offered to KISS his supporters at a packed rally in Florida on Monday night. The president returned to the campaign trail hours after the Wh…

www.the-sun.com

Huh? I am an Independent and a logical person. My kids are stuck at home and cannot even play sports due to this so called virus that has a 99.96% survival rate and Trump at 74 and heavy recovered in three days. I am tired of pansies like you and the media making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Listen to you. You sound like a petulant child being denied his favorite toy. People are dying. 1,000 Americans a day. That's many 9/11s a week and stupid fucking Trump supporters can't even see their way to wearing a damn mask...that will hasten our economic recovery and SAVE LIVES.

We all want to "get back to normal" or at least near normal. We can't do that without masks, testing and tracing. If Trump were the leader we needed during this pandemic, we'd be well on our way to an economic recovery like other countries are managing to do.

No you don't want to get back to normal..... you're too busy reveling in your new sense of outrage and hysterical fear. You get to feel oppressed, outraged, titillated by fear, and it's an excuse and a justification for your controlling the movement and behavior of others.

You wouldn't have it any other way, and you gleefully recount every additional death to use as ammo against the rest of us, who aren't scared little pussies like you.

Your behavior is disgusting..... consider suicide.

I would have it a very different way. I would love to be celebrating that we’re rounding the curve and that infections are going down and the deaths are decreasing, but that’s not happening. It’s not gonna happen until Trump is out of office because he is a danger to society.

Deaths are decreasing. Name one professional or college athlete to die from COVID. Just one. The danger to society is people like you. People who loot, riot, burn, scream and shout and disrespect our brave police officers. I had The virus. You didn’t. So please don’t tell me how to feel about this.

Wrong.

Coronavirus cases and deaths rising rapidly in America

Coronavirus infections are surging across several states — and the national trajectory is worsening. Lilia Luciano has the latest on the current outbreak.

www.cbsnews.com

I have never looted, burned or rioted. I am retired military, asshole.

They aren’t rising due to COVID despite what the fake news says. You may not physically do those acts but you support the party that supports them by calling them a “myth” and mostly peaceful and calling Antifa an idea. Spare me. Again, what is the average age of people dying from COVID? You keep dodging that question.

Yes, they are rising due to COVID.

Seriously, what planet do you live on?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/10/13/coronavirus-cases-rising/

Then why is the average age of those dying 78? Do you want to lockdown forever?

Nobody wants to lockdown at all...and we wouldn't have to if people followed simple guidelines...like WEARING A FUCKING MASK and socially distancing.

Other countries are managing to "get back to normal" and their economies are recovering. Ours never will as long as we have have a patchwork of mitigation measures and some places that refuse to put any in place. Jesus, nobody is even talking about lockdowns anymore except where there are clusters and outbreaks.

Biden did during the debate. My kids are learning via zoom, fans aren’t allowed in NFL stadiums. It’s not normal.

Biden did what during the debate? Don’t you fucking morons understand that we wouldn’t have to shut down if you would follow CDC guidelines?

That is correct. Schools are shut down because they keep having outbreaks. The NFL doesn’t have fans because you don’t want to have crowds during this time. It’s temporary, deal with it.

the nfl doesn't have fans not because of covid it's because they went political

 

[Seawytch]

How can you call yourself a Trump supporter? Wearing a mask that doesn't protect you, sanitizing, and washing hands your hands is for pussies. I'll bet you even follow your mayor and your governor's guidelines. You know you're going to lose your Red Trump hat if you keep this up.

BTW You don't need antibacterial soap. Washing with any hand soap for 20 secs does the deed. The 20 seconds is important.

Simply making the point that I do all these things while at the same time, reject the notion it should be mandated by government. Another point that shoots down your (and every other liberal) argument is that we Trump supporters do as he says and march in lockstep, and that's why Trump is responsible for all these cases and deaths. We are not liberals. We think for ourselves.

The CDC reported that most of the Covid infections were with people who wore masks. There are credible medical professionals who have stated masks are a waste of time, and may even do you harm if worn for a prolonged period of time. As I mentioned earlier, even the WHO came out with a statement that lockdowns are not the solution.

What we on the right do is weigh our particular circumstance, and make our own decisions. One size does not fit all, especially with a virus we've only begun to do research on.

With the exception of N95 mask which have been professionally fitted, masks provide protection for others but very limited protection for the wearer. We knew that last March. The only way to stop or slow down an airborne epidemic without a vaccine is by putting a barrier between the carrier and others. Masks, distancing, and quarantining work well in slowing down transmission. Countries that follow the guidelines have done well. Those that haven't have done poorer.

In March there was a picture of Trump wearing a masks. However, after Redfield said they protected others not the wearer, we rarely saw Trump in a mask. I guess he though if didn't protect me, it was worthless. So many of our problems we face such as, coronavirus, poverty, homelessness, global warming, etc are due to a lack of social conciseness.

if mask work why did Harris and Biden staffers get covid 19?

Probably from the same place other people that wear masks get it, dining out or from a close personal contact.

Stop crying. Get it and recover. Booo hooo it’s a virus with a. 99.96% survival rate

It’s a virus that has killed over 200,000 Americans. You gonna tell their families “boo hoo, suck it up”?

Typical un-American Trumpster.

Yep. Average age of death is 78. Booo hooo. F you, bitch.

Testy, testy inhumane Trumpster. It's totes adorbs that I'm the bitch because I care about my fellow citizens. What does that make you who doesn't care about his fellow Americans?

If you cared you would care about kids stuck at home on zoom calls and missing out on sports. You would care about small business owners. You would care about people depressed and suicidal due to lockdowns and or loss of business. You would care about higher cases of drug and alcohol abuse and lastly you would care about higher cases of child abuse. You stupid bitch.

I do care about those things and I know the only way to get them back it to control the outbreaks of this virus. Sending everyone out to catch it and risk dying isn’t a plan.

Locking child abusers with children isn't either. Treat people like adults.

Oh please. Stop pretending like Republicans suddenly care about abusers and their victims. If they did, social programs to help combat it would get a hell of a lot more money and time than they currently do.

People can be treated like adults when they act like adults.

Trump tosses masks and offers to kiss crowd after doc says he's not infectious

DONALD Trump tossed coronavirus masks into the crowd and offered to KISS his supporters at a packed rally in Florida on Monday night. The president returned to the campaign trail hours after the Wh…

www.the-sun.com

Huh? I am an Independent and a logical person. My kids are stuck at home and cannot even play sports due to this so called virus that has a 99.96% survival rate and Trump at 74 and heavy recovered in three days. I am tired of pansies like you and the media making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Listen to you. You sound like a petulant child being denied his favorite toy. People are dying. 1,000 Americans a day. That's many 9/11s a week and stupid fucking Trump supporters can't even see their way to wearing a damn mask...that will hasten our economic recovery and SAVE LIVES.

We all want to "get back to normal" or at least near normal. We can't do that without masks, testing and tracing. If Trump were the leader we needed during this pandemic, we'd be well on our way to an economic recovery like other countries are managing to do.

No you don't want to get back to normal..... you're too busy reveling in your new sense of outrage and hysterical fear. You get to feel oppressed, outraged, titillated by fear, and it's an excuse and a justification for your controlling the movement and behavior of others.

You wouldn't have it any other way, and you gleefully recount every additional death to use as ammo against the rest of us, who aren't scared little pussies like you.

Your behavior is disgusting..... consider suicide.

I would have it a very different way. I would love to be celebrating that we’re rounding the curve and that infections are going down and the deaths are decreasing, but that’s not happening. It’s not gonna happen until Trump is out of office because he is a danger to society.

Deaths are decreasing. Name one professional or college athlete to die from COVID. Just one. The danger to society is people like you. People who loot, riot, burn, scream and shout and disrespect our brave police officers. I had The virus. You didn’t. So please don’t tell me how to feel about this.

Wrong.

Coronavirus cases and deaths rising rapidly in America

Coronavirus infections are surging across several states — and the national trajectory is worsening. Lilia Luciano has the latest on the current outbreak.

www.cbsnews.com

I have never looted, burned or rioted. I am retired military, asshole.

They aren’t rising due to COVID despite what the fake news says. You may not physically do those acts but you support the party that supports them by calling them a “myth” and mostly peaceful and calling Antifa an idea. Spare me. Again, what is the average age of people dying from COVID? You keep dodging that question.

Yes, they are rising due to COVID.

Seriously, what planet do you live on?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/10/13/coronavirus-cases-rising/

Then why is the average age of those dying 78? Do you want to lockdown forever?

Nobody wants to lockdown at all...and we wouldn't have to if people followed simple guidelines...like WEARING A FUCKING MASK and socially distancing.

Other countries are managing to "get back to normal" and their economies are recovering. Ours never will as long as we have have a patchwork of mitigation measures and some places that refuse to put any in place. Jesus, nobody is even talking about lockdowns anymore except where there are clusters and outbreaks.

Biden did during the debate. My kids are learning via zoom, fans aren’t allowed in NFL stadiums. It’s not normal.

Biden did what during the debate? Don’t you fucking morons understand that we wouldn’t have to shut down if you would follow CDC guidelines?

That is correct. Schools are shut down because they keep having outbreaks. The NFL doesn’t have fans because you don’t want to have crowds during this time. It’s temporary, deal with it.

the nfl doesn't have fans not because of covid it's because they went political

 

[bigrebnc1775]

How can you call yourself a Trump supporter? Wearing a mask that doesn't protect you, sanitizing, and washing hands your hands is for pussies. I'll bet you even follow your mayor and your governor's guidelines. You know you're going to lose your Red Trump hat if you keep this up.

BTW You don't need antibacterial soap. Washing with any hand soap for 20 secs does the deed. The 20 seconds is important.

Simply making the point that I do all these things while at the same time, reject the notion it should be mandated by government. Another point that shoots down your (and every other liberal) argument is that we Trump supporters do as he says and march in lockstep, and that's why Trump is responsible for all these cases and deaths. We are not liberals. We think for ourselves.

The CDC reported that most of the Covid infections were with people who wore masks. There are credible medical professionals who have stated masks are a waste of time, and may even do you harm if worn for a prolonged period of time. As I mentioned earlier, even the WHO came out with a statement that lockdowns are not the solution.

What we on the right do is weigh our particular circumstance, and make our own decisions. One size does not fit all, especially with a virus we've only begun to do research on.

With the exception of N95 mask which have been professionally fitted, masks provide protection for others but very limited protection for the wearer. We knew that last March. The only way to stop or slow down an airborne epidemic without a vaccine is by putting a barrier between the carrier and others. Masks, distancing, and quarantining work well in slowing down transmission. Countries that follow the guidelines have done well. Those that haven't have done poorer.

In March there was a picture of Trump wearing a masks. However, after Redfield said they protected others not the wearer, we rarely saw Trump in a mask. I guess he though if didn't protect me, it was worthless. So many of our problems we face such as, coronavirus, poverty, homelessness, global warming, etc are due to a lack of social conciseness.

if mask work why did Harris and Biden staffers get covid 19?

Probably from the same place other people that wear masks get it, dining out or from a close personal contact.

Stop crying. Get it and recover. Booo hooo it’s a virus with a. 99.96% survival rate

It’s a virus that has killed over 200,000 Americans. You gonna tell their families “boo hoo, suck it up”?

Typical un-American Trumpster.

Yep. Average age of death is 78. Booo hooo. F you, bitch.

Testy, testy inhumane Trumpster. It's totes adorbs that I'm the bitch because I care about my fellow citizens. What does that make you who doesn't care about his fellow Americans?

If you cared you would care about kids stuck at home on zoom calls and missing out on sports. You would care about small business owners. You would care about people depressed and suicidal due to lockdowns and or loss of business. You would care about higher cases of drug and alcohol abuse and lastly you would care about higher cases of child abuse. You stupid bitch.

I do care about those things and I know the only way to get them back it to control the outbreaks of this virus. Sending everyone out to catch it and risk dying isn’t a plan.

Locking child abusers with children isn't either. Treat people like adults.

Oh please. Stop pretending like Republicans suddenly care about abusers and their victims. If they did, social programs to help combat it would get a hell of a lot more money and time than they currently do.

People can be treated like adults when they act like adults.

Trump tosses masks and offers to kiss crowd after doc says he's not infectious

DONALD Trump tossed coronavirus masks into the crowd and offered to KISS his supporters at a packed rally in Florida on Monday night. The president returned to the campaign trail hours after the Wh…

www.the-sun.com

Huh? I am an Independent and a logical person. My kids are stuck at home and cannot even play sports due to this so called virus that has a 99.96% survival rate and Trump at 74 and heavy recovered in three days. I am tired of pansies like you and the media making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Listen to you. You sound like a petulant child being denied his favorite toy. People are dying. 1,000 Americans a day. That's many 9/11s a week and stupid fucking Trump supporters can't even see their way to wearing a damn mask...that will hasten our economic recovery and SAVE LIVES.

We all want to "get back to normal" or at least near normal. We can't do that without masks, testing and tracing. If Trump were the leader we needed during this pandemic, we'd be well on our way to an economic recovery like other countries are managing to do.

No you don't want to get back to normal..... you're too busy reveling in your new sense of outrage and hysterical fear. You get to feel oppressed, outraged, titillated by fear, and it's an excuse and a justification for your controlling the movement and behavior of others.

You wouldn't have it any other way, and you gleefully recount every additional death to use as ammo against the rest of us, who aren't scared little pussies like you.

Your behavior is disgusting..... consider suicide.

I would have it a very different way. I would love to be celebrating that we’re rounding the curve and that infections are going down and the deaths are decreasing, but that’s not happening. It’s not gonna happen until Trump is out of office because he is a danger to society.

Deaths are decreasing. Name one professional or college athlete to die from COVID. Just one. The danger to society is people like you. People who loot, riot, burn, scream and shout and disrespect our brave police officers. I had The virus. You didn’t. So please don’t tell me how to feel about this.

Wrong.

Coronavirus cases and deaths rising rapidly in America

Coronavirus infections are surging across several states — and the national trajectory is worsening. Lilia Luciano has the latest on the current outbreak.

www.cbsnews.com

I have never looted, burned or rioted. I am retired military, asshole.

They aren’t rising due to COVID despite what the fake news says. You may not physically do those acts but you support the party that supports them by calling them a “myth” and mostly peaceful and calling Antifa an idea. Spare me. Again, what is the average age of people dying from COVID? You keep dodging that question.

Yes, they are rising due to COVID.

Seriously, what planet do you live on?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/10/13/coronavirus-cases-rising/

Then why is the average age of those dying 78? Do you want to lockdown forever?

Nobody wants to lockdown at all...and we wouldn't have to if people followed simple guidelines...like WEARING A FUCKING MASK and socially distancing.

Other countries are managing to "get back to normal" and their economies are recovering. Ours never will as long as we have have a patchwork of mitigation measures and some places that refuse to put any in place. Jesus, nobody is even talking about lockdowns anymore except where there are clusters and outbreaks.

Biden did during the debate. My kids are learning via zoom, fans aren’t allowed in NFL stadiums. It’s not normal.

Biden did what during the debate? Don’t you fucking morons understand that we wouldn’t have to shut down if you would follow CDC guidelines?

That is correct. Schools are shut down because they keep having outbreaks. The NFL doesn’t have fans because you don’t want to have crowds during this time. It’s temporary, deal with it.

the nfl doesn't have fans not because of covid it's because they went political

watching on tv is also down 10%

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

How can you call yourself a Trump supporter? Wearing a mask that doesn't protect you, sanitizing, and washing hands your hands is for pussies. I'll bet you even follow your mayor and your governor's guidelines. You know you're going to lose your Red Trump hat if you keep this up.

BTW You don't need antibacterial soap. Washing with any hand soap for 20 secs does the deed. The 20 seconds is important.

Simply making the point that I do all these things while at the same time, reject the notion it should be mandated by government. Another point that shoots down your (and every other liberal) argument is that we Trump supporters do as he says and march in lockstep, and that's why Trump is responsible for all these cases and deaths. We are not liberals. We think for ourselves.

The CDC reported that most of the Covid infections were with people who wore masks. There are credible medical professionals who have stated masks are a waste of time, and may even do you harm if worn for a prolonged period of time. As I mentioned earlier, even the WHO came out with a statement that lockdowns are not the solution.

What we on the right do is weigh our particular circumstance, and make our own decisions. One size does not fit all, especially with a virus we've only begun to do research on.

With the exception of N95 mask which have been professionally fitted, masks provide protection for others but very limited protection for the wearer. We knew that last March. The only way to stop or slow down an airborne epidemic without a vaccine is by putting a barrier between the carrier and others. Masks, distancing, and quarantining work well in slowing down transmission. Countries that follow the guidelines have done well. Those that haven't have done poorer.

In March there was a picture of Trump wearing a masks. However, after Redfield said they protected others not the wearer, we rarely saw Trump in a mask. I guess he though if didn't protect me, it was worthless. So many of our problems we face such as, coronavirus, poverty, homelessness, global warming, etc are due to a lack of social conciseness.

if mask work why did Harris and Biden staffers get covid 19?

Probably from the same place other people that wear masks get it, dining out or from a close personal contact.

Stop crying. Get it and recover. Booo hooo it’s a virus with a. 99.96% survival rate

It’s a virus that has killed over 200,000 Americans. You gonna tell their families “boo hoo, suck it up”?

Typical un-American Trumpster.

Yep. Average age of death is 78. Booo hooo. F you, bitch.

Testy, testy inhumane Trumpster. It's totes adorbs that I'm the bitch because I care about my fellow citizens. What does that make you who doesn't care about his fellow Americans?

If you cared you would care about kids stuck at home on zoom calls and missing out on sports. You would care about small business owners. You would care about people depressed and suicidal due to lockdowns and or loss of business. You would care about higher cases of drug and alcohol abuse and lastly you would care about higher cases of child abuse. You stupid bitch.

I do care about those things and I know the only way to get them back it to control the outbreaks of this virus. Sending everyone out to catch it and risk dying isn’t a plan.

Locking child abusers with children isn't either. Treat people like adults.

Oh please. Stop pretending like Republicans suddenly care about abusers and their victims. If they did, social programs to help combat it would get a hell of a lot more money and time than they currently do.

People can be treated like adults when they act like adults.

Trump tosses masks and offers to kiss crowd after doc says he's not infectious

DONALD Trump tossed coronavirus masks into the crowd and offered to KISS his supporters at a packed rally in Florida on Monday night. The president returned to the campaign trail hours after the Wh…

www.the-sun.com

Huh? I am an Independent and a logical person. My kids are stuck at home and cannot even play sports due to this so called virus that has a 99.96% survival rate and Trump at 74 and heavy recovered in three days. I am tired of pansies like you and the media making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Listen to you. You sound like a petulant child being denied his favorite toy. People are dying. 1,000 Americans a day. That's many 9/11s a week and stupid fucking Trump supporters can't even see their way to wearing a damn mask...that will hasten our economic recovery and SAVE LIVES.

We all want to "get back to normal" or at least near normal. We can't do that without masks, testing and tracing. If Trump were the leader we needed during this pandemic, we'd be well on our way to an economic recovery like other countries are managing to do.

No you don't want to get back to normal..... you're too busy reveling in your new sense of outrage and hysterical fear. You get to feel oppressed, outraged, titillated by fear, and it's an excuse and a justification for your controlling the movement and behavior of others.

You wouldn't have it any other way, and you gleefully recount every additional death to use as ammo against the rest of us, who aren't scared little pussies like you.

Your behavior is disgusting..... consider suicide.

I would have it a very different way. I would love to be celebrating that we’re rounding the curve and that infections are going down and the deaths are decreasing, but that’s not happening. It’s not gonna happen until Trump is out of office because he is a danger to society.

Deaths are decreasing. Name one professional or college athlete to die from COVID. Just one. The danger to society is people like you. People who loot, riot, burn, scream and shout and disrespect our brave police officers. I had The virus. You didn’t. So please don’t tell me how to feel about this.

Wrong.

Coronavirus cases and deaths rising rapidly in America

Coronavirus infections are surging across several states — and the national trajectory is worsening. Lilia Luciano has the latest on the current outbreak.

www.cbsnews.com

I have never looted, burned or rioted. I am retired military, asshole.

They aren’t rising due to COVID despite what the fake news says. You may not physically do those acts but you support the party that supports them by calling them a “myth” and mostly peaceful and calling Antifa an idea. Spare me. Again, what is the average age of people dying from COVID? You keep dodging that question.

Yes, they are rising due to COVID.

Seriously, what planet do you live on?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/10/13/coronavirus-cases-rising/

Then why is the average age of those dying 78? Do you want to lockdown forever?

Nobody wants to lockdown at all...and we wouldn't have to if people followed simple guidelines...like WEARING A FUCKING MASK and socially distancing.

Other countries are managing to "get back to normal" and their economies are recovering. Ours never will as long as we have have a patchwork of mitigation measures and some places that refuse to put any in place. Jesus, nobody is even talking about lockdowns anymore except where there are clusters and outbreaks.

Biden did during the debate. My kids are learning via zoom, fans aren’t allowed in NFL stadiums. It’s not normal.

Biden did what during the debate? Don’t you fucking morons understand that we wouldn’t have to shut down if you would follow CDC guidelines?

That is correct. Schools are shut down because they keep having outbreaks. The NFL doesn’t have fans because you don’t want to have crowds during this time. It’s temporary, deal with it.

He said there would be more shut downs. Define "temporary".

Cali is basically shut down and people are asked to put their mask on in between chews and yet the numbers remain high there. Virus will spread. That is what viruses do. We cannot stay locked up for three yrs or more.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

How can you call yourself a Trump supporter? Wearing a mask that doesn't protect you, sanitizing, and washing hands your hands is for pussies. I'll bet you even follow your mayor and your governor's guidelines. You know you're going to lose your Red Trump hat if you keep this up.

BTW You don't need antibacterial soap. Washing with any hand soap for 20 secs does the deed. The 20 seconds is important.

Simply making the point that I do all these things while at the same time, reject the notion it should be mandated by government. Another point that shoots down your (and every other liberal) argument is that we Trump supporters do as he says and march in lockstep, and that's why Trump is responsible for all these cases and deaths. We are not liberals. We think for ourselves.

The CDC reported that most of the Covid infections were with people who wore masks. There are credible medical professionals who have stated masks are a waste of time, and may even do you harm if worn for a prolonged period of time. As I mentioned earlier, even the WHO came out with a statement that lockdowns are not the solution.

What we on the right do is weigh our particular circumstance, and make our own decisions. One size does not fit all, especially with a virus we've only begun to do research on.

With the exception of N95 mask which have been professionally fitted, masks provide protection for others but very limited protection for the wearer. We knew that last March. The only way to stop or slow down an airborne epidemic without a vaccine is by putting a barrier between the carrier and others. Masks, distancing, and quarantining work well in slowing down transmission. Countries that follow the guidelines have done well. Those that haven't have done poorer.

In March there was a picture of Trump wearing a masks. However, after Redfield said they protected others not the wearer, we rarely saw Trump in a mask. I guess he though if didn't protect me, it was worthless. So many of our problems we face such as, coronavirus, poverty, homelessness, global warming, etc are due to a lack of social conciseness.

if mask work why did Harris and Biden staffers get covid 19?

Probably from the same place other people that wear masks get it, dining out or from a close personal contact.

Stop crying. Get it and recover. Booo hooo it’s a virus with a. 99.96% survival rate

It’s a virus that has killed over 200,000 Americans. You gonna tell their families “boo hoo, suck it up”?

Typical un-American Trumpster.

Yep. Average age of death is 78. Booo hooo. F you, bitch.

Testy, testy inhumane Trumpster. It's totes adorbs that I'm the bitch because I care about my fellow citizens. What does that make you who doesn't care about his fellow Americans?

If you cared you would care about kids stuck at home on zoom calls and missing out on sports. You would care about small business owners. You would care about people depressed and suicidal due to lockdowns and or loss of business. You would care about higher cases of drug and alcohol abuse and lastly you would care about higher cases of child abuse. You stupid bitch.

I do care about those things and I know the only way to get them back it to control the outbreaks of this virus. Sending everyone out to catch it and risk dying isn’t a plan.

Locking child abusers with children isn't either. Treat people like adults.

Oh please. Stop pretending like Republicans suddenly care about abusers and their victims. If they did, social programs to help combat it would get a hell of a lot more money and time than they currently do.

People can be treated like adults when they act like adults.

Trump tosses masks and offers to kiss crowd after doc says he's not infectious

DONALD Trump tossed coronavirus masks into the crowd and offered to KISS his supporters at a packed rally in Florida on Monday night. The president returned to the campaign trail hours after the Wh…

www.the-sun.com

Huh? I am an Independent and a logical person. My kids are stuck at home and cannot even play sports due to this so called virus that has a 99.96% survival rate and Trump at 74 and heavy recovered in three days. I am tired of pansies like you and the media making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Listen to you. You sound like a petulant child being denied his favorite toy. People are dying. 1,000 Americans a day. That's many 9/11s a week and stupid fucking Trump supporters can't even see their way to wearing a damn mask...that will hasten our economic recovery and SAVE LIVES.

We all want to "get back to normal" or at least near normal. We can't do that without masks, testing and tracing. If Trump were the leader we needed during this pandemic, we'd be well on our way to an economic recovery like other countries are managing to do.

No you don't want to get back to normal..... you're too busy reveling in your new sense of outrage and hysterical fear. You get to feel oppressed, outraged, titillated by fear, and it's an excuse and a justification for your controlling the movement and behavior of others.

You wouldn't have it any other way, and you gleefully recount every additional death to use as ammo against the rest of us, who aren't scared little pussies like you.

Your behavior is disgusting..... consider suicide.

I would have it a very different way. I would love to be celebrating that we’re rounding the curve and that infections are going down and the deaths are decreasing, but that’s not happening. It’s not gonna happen until Trump is out of office because he is a danger to society.

Deaths are decreasing. Name one professional or college athlete to die from COVID. Just one. The danger to society is people like you. People who loot, riot, burn, scream and shout and disrespect our brave police officers. I had The virus. You didn’t. So please don’t tell me how to feel about this.

Wrong.

Coronavirus cases and deaths rising rapidly in America

Coronavirus infections are surging across several states — and the national trajectory is worsening. Lilia Luciano has the latest on the current outbreak.

www.cbsnews.com

I have never looted, burned or rioted. I am retired military, asshole.

They aren’t rising due to COVID despite what the fake news says. You may not physically do those acts but you support the party that supports them by calling them a “myth” and mostly peaceful and calling Antifa an idea. Spare me. Again, what is the average age of people dying from COVID? You keep dodging that question.

Yes, they are rising due to COVID.

Seriously, what planet do you live on?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/10/13/coronavirus-cases-rising/

Then why is the average age of those dying 78? Do you want to lockdown forever?

Nobody wants to lockdown at all...and we wouldn't have to if people followed simple guidelines...like WEARING A FUCKING MASK and socially distancing.

Other countries are managing to "get back to normal" and their economies are recovering. Ours never will as long as we have have a patchwork of mitigation measures and some places that refuse to put any in place. Jesus, nobody is even talking about lockdowns anymore except where there are clusters and outbreaks.

Biden did during the debate. My kids are learning via zoom, fans aren’t allowed in NFL stadiums. It’s not normal.

Biden did what during the debate? Don’t you fucking morons understand that we wouldn’t have to shut down if you would follow CDC guidelines?

That is correct. Schools are shut down because they keep having outbreaks. The NFL doesn’t have fans because you don’t want to have crowds during this time. It’s temporary, deal with it.

the nfl doesn't have fans not because of covid it's because they went political

Some stadiums have some fans. Others have zero fans. There is no uniformity, which is fine but even you have to admit the distrust in the media by many has also exacerbated this issue.

 

[charwin95]

Not saying its gonna happen BUT as we all know you are wise to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Personally I think a Biden administration would be an economic disaster and truth be told that is virtually all I care about, hence my Trump vote.
Having said that I am not so narrow minded as to assume that others think like me. Anything can happen and the wise person does their best to prepare for it.
I hope to God we don't see any unhinged responses from the right like we did from the left when Hillary lost.

Keep your composure if the worst happens and for God's sake don't come on here......

It won't be a Biden Presidency for very long if he wins.
It will be a one year Biden presidency at best... and likely not even that long.
He, like many elderly, are easily manipulated. Someone else is going to be in charge... remains to be seen who that is. Harris believes it will be her, but she is disliked and obviously a self seeker. Having said that, before the 4 year mark - she will be President.

that has been the dem plan from the beginning, Pelosi is already setting the stage to remove him via the 25th amendment if he should win.

as to Biden winning, just look at the crowds, Trump gets 50,000 and Biden is lucky to get 100, Harris is lucky to get anyone besides a few media pukes.

That the same in 2016 with Hillary but Hillary get more votes......
The problem with Trump rallies attendance is 99% whites only. It does not represent the the populations of any cities or locations. In 2016 election Trump garnered only 63+ millions votes ..... with the economic and health crisis that Americans are suffering right now. I don’t expect that the 63+ millions would increase but a lot less.

Also Biden/Harris rally is a drive in attendance style is not mean for a large group to avoid spread of virus.

The rallies is not 50,000.

try watching a Trump rally, the crowd is NOT 99% white, his crowds are reflective of the racial mix of this country.

Hillary's entire PV delta was in California. She did not win the PV in the entire country and I am quite sure that she would have gladly traded some of those cal votes for some votes in Penn, MIch, Wisc, or Fla.

the Biden/Harris campaign cannot generate enough interest to even fill the car spaces for their stupid drive in speeches. generally there are more media people watching than voters. And yes, Trump has had 50,000 or more at several rallys in several swing states. This election won't even be close. the media and the pollsters are lying to you.

Of course I saw most of Trump rallies. And its extremely very rare to see any blacks in any of Trump rallies. Do you blame them? I’ll be scare to death if I’m black.

Read my post #482 take one of those groups that endorsed Biden. There’s no way Trump can even come close to those number.
Just the Teachers union alone from all over US with 1.7 million members. So take 1.7 million members from your lousy 50,000 (spit). How far is it that?



Even your buddy Rupert Murdoch predict a landslide win for Biden.

 

[charwin95]

How can you call yourself a Trump supporter? Wearing a mask that doesn't protect you, sanitizing, and washing hands your hands is for pussies. I'll bet you even follow your mayor and your governor's guidelines. You know you're going to lose your Red Trump hat if you keep this up.

BTW You don't need antibacterial soap. Washing with any hand soap for 20 secs does the deed. The 20 seconds is important.

Simply making the point that I do all these things while at the same time, reject the notion it should be mandated by government. Another point that shoots down your (and every other liberal) argument is that we Trump supporters do as he says and march in lockstep, and that's why Trump is responsible for all these cases and deaths. We are not liberals. We think for ourselves.

The CDC reported that most of the Covid infections were with people who wore masks. There are credible medical professionals who have stated masks are a waste of time, and may even do you harm if worn for a prolonged period of time. As I mentioned earlier, even the WHO came out with a statement that lockdowns are not the solution.

What we on the right do is weigh our particular circumstance, and make our own decisions. One size does not fit all, especially with a virus we've only begun to do research on.

With the exception of N95 mask which have been professionally fitted, masks provide protection for others but very limited protection for the wearer. We knew that last March. The only way to stop or slow down an airborne epidemic without a vaccine is by putting a barrier between the carrier and others. Masks, distancing, and quarantining work well in slowing down transmission. Countries that follow the guidelines have done well. Those that haven't have done poorer.

In March there was a picture of Trump wearing a masks. However, after Redfield said they protected others not the wearer, we rarely saw Trump in a mask. I guess he though if didn't protect me, it was worthless. So many of our problems we face such as, coronavirus, poverty, homelessness, global warming, etc are due to a lack of social conciseness.

if mask work why did Harris and Biden staffers get covid 19?

Probably from the same place other people that wear masks get it, dining out or from a close personal contact.

Stop crying. Get it and recover. Booo hooo it’s a virus with a. 99.96% survival rate

It’s a virus that has killed over 200,000 Americans. You gonna tell their families “boo hoo, suck it up”?

Typical un-American Trumpster.

Yep. Average age of death is 78. Booo hooo. F you, bitch.

Testy, testy inhumane Trumpster. It's totes adorbs that I'm the bitch because I care about my fellow citizens. What does that make you who doesn't care about his fellow Americans?

If you cared you would care about kids stuck at home on zoom calls and missing out on sports. You would care about small business owners. You would care about people depressed and suicidal due to lockdowns and or loss of business. You would care about higher cases of drug and alcohol abuse and lastly you would care about higher cases of child abuse. You stupid bitch.

I do care about those things and I know the only way to get them back it to control the outbreaks of this virus. Sending everyone out to catch it and risk dying isn’t a plan.

Locking child abusers with children isn't either. Treat people like adults.

Oh please. Stop pretending like Republicans suddenly care about abusers and their victims. If they did, social programs to help combat it would get a hell of a lot more money and time than they currently do.

People can be treated like adults when they act like adults.

Trump tosses masks and offers to kiss crowd after doc says he's not infectious

DONALD Trump tossed coronavirus masks into the crowd and offered to KISS his supporters at a packed rally in Florida on Monday night. The president returned to the campaign trail hours after the Wh…

www.the-sun.com

Huh? I am an Independent and a logical person. My kids are stuck at home and cannot even play sports due to this so called virus that has a 99.96% survival rate and Trump at 74 and heavy recovered in three days. I am tired of pansies like you and the media making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Listen to you. You sound like a petulant child being denied his favorite toy. People are dying. 1,000 Americans a day. That's many 9/11s a week and stupid fucking Trump supporters can't even see their way to wearing a damn mask...that will hasten our economic recovery and SAVE LIVES.

We all want to "get back to normal" or at least near normal. We can't do that without masks, testing and tracing. If Trump were the leader we needed during this pandemic, we'd be well on our way to an economic recovery like other countries are managing to do.

No you don't want to get back to normal..... you're too busy reveling in your new sense of outrage and hysterical fear. You get to feel oppressed, outraged, titillated by fear, and it's an excuse and a justification for your controlling the movement and behavior of others.

You wouldn't have it any other way, and you gleefully recount every additional death to use as ammo against the rest of us, who aren't scared little pussies like you.

Your behavior is disgusting..... consider suicide.

I would have it a very different way. I would love to be celebrating that we’re rounding the curve and that infections are going down and the deaths are decreasing, but that’s not happening. It’s not gonna happen until Trump is out of office because he is a danger to society.

Deaths are decreasing. Name one professional or college athlete to die from COVID. Just one. The danger to society is people like you. People who loot, riot, burn, scream and shout and disrespect our brave police officers. I had The virus. You didn’t. So please don’t tell me how to feel about this.

Wrong.

Coronavirus cases and deaths rising rapidly in America

Coronavirus infections are surging across several states — and the national trajectory is worsening. Lilia Luciano has the latest on the current outbreak.

www.cbsnews.com

I have never looted, burned or rioted. I am retired military, asshole.

but you and your candidates support the looters, burners and rioters. hypocrisy much? you cannot support antifa and BLM and claim to not support looting, burning, and rioting.

Nah! Biden condemned those violators. Get your self updated.

 

[charwin95]

try watching a Trump rally, the crowd is NOT 99% white, his crowds are reflective of the racial mix of this country.

You're right...it's 99.9%. Finding a person of color is like a really hard "where's Waldo?" : lol:

one little spot in a huge rally, maybe 30 people in that pic, yeah, that proves nothing. and why do you hate white people? are you a racist?

How does pointing out a lack of melanin at a Trump rally make me racist against white people?

why is it bad that one 30 person section of a Trump rally was all white? You made the racist claim, now you are trying to weasel out of it. you have zero credibility on this forum.

Oh Dear . Trump is a racist dog no matter how much you denied it.
KUNG FLU ......... his supporters cheered.
Purposely mis pronounce KAMALAH KAMALAH..... supporters cheered.
KAMALA is an insult to this country.
WHITE POWER..... Retweeted.


I’m very sure you and your buddies love that. Right? Be very careful what you wish for.

What do you think the blacks and other minorities when they heard that? That is so disgusting.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

try watching a Trump rally, the crowd is NOT 99% white, his crowds are reflective of the racial mix of this country.

You're right...it's 99.9%. Finding a person of color is like a really hard "where's Waldo?" : lol:

one little spot in a huge rally, maybe 30 people in that pic, yeah, that proves nothing. and why do you hate white people? are you a racist?

How does pointing out a lack of melanin at a Trump rally make me racist against white people?

why is it bad that one 30 person section of a Trump rally was all white? You made the racist claim, now you are trying to weasel out of it. you have zero credibility on this forum.

Oh Dear . Trump is a racist dog no matter how much you denied it.
KUNG FLU ......... his supporters cheered.
Purposely mis pronounce KAMALAH KAMALAH..... supporters cheered.
KAMALA is an insult to this country.
WHITE POWER..... Retweeted.


I’m very sure you and your buddies love that. Right? Be very careful what you wish for.

What do you think the blacks and other minorities when they heard that? That is so disgusting.

Irony is you actually do support a racist

Report: Joe Biden in 1973 Lectured Cleveland on What Is 'Good for the Negro' | USA Politics Today

Former Vice President Joe Biden lectured the City Club in Cleveland, Ohio, in 1973 about what he thought was “good for the Negro,” according to a new book from a prominent left-wing journalist. The racially insensitive comments from Biden, a white man from Delaware who was at the time newly...

www.usapoliticstoday.org

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[charwin95]

Because if severe TDS? You are suffering from TDS Trump Denial Syndrome. True Trump has no ability to stop virus.
But the least that asshole can do is..... encourage people to WEAR that stupid mask and social distancing to slow the spread of virus. Per his own policy guidelines .

But You don’t go around discouraging, making fun of people wearing mask. Even his own closest advisers Atlas telling people NOT to wear mask. How bad is that? His own surgeon general or Fox News like Hannity wear that stupid mask.....

Meadows Chief of Staff was blasted by Anderson today at CNN from top to bottom about mask.

Again, nobody will follow anything Trump says against their will, including Trump supporters. This bogus attempt at trying to blame him for the spread is ridiculous. The WHO recently made the comment that a shutdown is the worst way to handle this. Did Democrat Mayors or Governors listen? They are talking about shutting down again. Biden said if his cronies in our health departments said to shut down the country, he would. Why would he not listen to the so-called experts?

But if you want to assert blame......fine. Two can play that game.

We are on the verge of a new vaccine thanks to Warp Speed. Both Biden and Pence stated they expect this to be available by the end of the year; early next year at the latest. In the past few months, Kamala Whorris stated that if it did come out under Trump, she would never take it. Cuomo of New York made the same comment. So here's the question: If you actually believe that leaders in our country can compel citizens to follow their advice, and millions refuse to get the new vaccine and ultimately die because of it, will you blame Whorris and Cuomo because of the statements they made?

Just like how you blamed Obama of flu deaths and swine flu deaths and Pandemic. Obama was responsible.


Talking about HYPOCRITE. Trump is RESPONSIBLE for these deaths and infections no matter how you twist a wet pretzel. Like I told you repeatedly..... His own attitude and behavior alone in dealing these crisis is so fucking disgusting.
Mask alone the least minimum he can do is encourage not discouraged. That SOB bastard has not said anything good about mask.

Blaming China for his negligence is just ridiculously BULL SHIT.
This is like you stepped on a broken glass. You blamed the broken glass. No first (mask) aid.

You got infected, you ignored it, play dumb, play stupid, play it down, no big deal, it will just go away.
They take you to the hospital for gangrene.... IT’S THAT GLASS FAULT.

 

[Flash]

A total of 90K showed up for the three Trump rallies in PA today.

Four showed up to hear that asshole Obama speak for Biden.

 

[charwin95]

try watching a Trump rally, the crowd is NOT 99% white, his crowds are reflective of the racial mix of this country.

You're right...it's 99.9%. Finding a person of color is like a really hard "where's Waldo?" : lol:

one little spot in a huge rally, maybe 30 people in that pic, yeah, that proves nothing. and why do you hate white people? are you a racist?

How does pointing out a lack of melanin at a Trump rally make me racist against white people?

why is it bad that one 30 person section of a Trump rally was all white? You made the racist claim, now you are trying to weasel out of it. you have zero credibility on this forum.

Oh Dear . Trump is a racist dog no matter how much you denied it.
KUNG FLU ......... his supporters cheered.
Purposely mis pronounce KAMALAH KAMALAH..... supporters cheered.
KAMALA is an insult to this country.
WHITE POWER..... Retweeted.


I’m very sure you and your buddies love that. Right? Be very careful what you wish for.

What do you think the blacks and other minorities when they heard that? That is so disgusting.

Irony is you actually do support a racist

Report: Joe Biden in 1973 Lectured Cleveland on What Is 'Good for the Negro' | USA Politics Today

Former Vice President Joe Biden lectured the City Club in Cleveland, Ohio, in 1973 about what he thought was “good for the Negro,” according to a new book from a prominent left-wing journalist. The racially insensitive comments from Biden, a white man from Delaware who was at the time newly...

www.usapoliticstoday.org

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Your link from USA politics? Absolutely. Go get me something else more credible.

These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy. See all Right Bias sources.

 

[charwin95]

You displayed, ignorance, dumb and hypocrite ALL at the same time.....

All the deaths under Obama’s administration falls under OBAMA‘S LAP. Where in my post did I say he is not?
We have vaccines for flu so it’s up to citizens to take shots. Even today all are not taking the flu shots. So why didn’t Obama stop flu? Are you really that ignorant?

From you.... Why didn’t Obama orders mask, hand washing? WHY? did CDC, NIH or Fauci recommend to wear mask or social distancing? You cannot be this STUPID.

From you...... the 60 millions get caught HN1N. So who is doing a better job? Trump or Obama?
I can not believe you are this fucking ignorant. Link below to update yourself. The HN1N started here in US spread all over US without warning then spread around the world. Can anyone predict a pandemic in your own country till it’s too late? The deaths of H1N1 was 12,469. So Obama did a very good job. He took responsibility, country was calm, no business lost.


Trump.... The DIFFERENCE how that piece of shit handling the CV-19 was........... he has the warning that is coming.... He shut down west in January and west coast in March..... FINE.... The fucking difference was he went around all over playing it down, playing dumb, it’s a hoax, golfing, went overseas, this is nothing, it’s just a flu no big deal, it will go away..... With the help of those fuckers at Fox News. Then blamed Obama, finger pointing, tweeting nonsense. Didn’t do shit.......
THATS THE DIFFERENCE. Even today that SOB arrogant bastard still downplaying the crisis.... He doesn’t give a shit.
The economic crisis, health crisis, deaths, infections.....all that falls under Trump’s lap no matter how hard you or anyone try to defend Trump. That fucker doesn’t even encourage people to wear mask the least minimum he can do.


Flu deaths under Obama. If people didn’t take flu shots is that Obama’s fault?
Flu deaths in last 3 years under Trump is exactly 77,000. Is that mean it’s Trump fault? If people did not take flu shots. Is that Trump’s fault?

RACIST. Trump is a 100% racist piece of dog shit and even the whole world knew it. What difference does it make Ray? You are a racist your self. So how would you even know the difference? Kung Flu, White Power, White Supremacist supporter, Mexicans,

Trump is racist, but you voted for a guy that made multiple racist comments and even supported former segregationist lawmakers.

No, the deaths from the flu are not DumBama's fault no more than the Covid deaths are Trump's fault. Why? Because a US President cannot control a virus that's invisible to the naked eye, that's why. You said it yourself: people had the option to get flu shots, but many chose not to. So in your statement, what you are admitting to is that people caused their own demise--not the President. I think you're starting to get it now; not quite there yet, but you're getting there. Correct, people made their own personal decisions, and it wouldn't have changed a thing if DumBama went out every week and promoted getting a flu shot every single year. Even the people who loved him the most wouldn't have done it if they didn't want to. Same goes with mask wearing.

Now as for how DumBama handled H1N1, even his own people went on air and stated it was handled the worst possible way imaginable, but they just got lucky. Need the video, just let me know. In the process, he drained our resources and never restocked for the next administration.

Hindsight is 20/20. Every single one of us in this forum can say looking at the past, we could have done things a little bit better. Presidents are no exception to this. Did Trump make mistakes, yes he did. But what President ever handled a tragic situation perfectly? Trump made the mistake by providing federal money to facilities that are responsible for all the phony Covid numbers and Covid deaths. He should have never signed the additional federal unemployment compensation that influenced people not to return to work. He should have never created the Prison Reform act that allowed dope heads back out into the street to pander to black voters. Now if you can show me any President in our history that ran this country without mistakes, I'll be happy to entertain anyone of them you post.

Hindsight 20/20 does not apply to Trump how he downplayed, play dumb, play stupid , it’s a hoax...... the severity of the crisis is not acceptable.
Every single one in this forum... you mean Trump supporters only.

Did Trump made mistakes? Yes all over even today. Lie like hell.
Yes every president made mistakes but Trump does it almost on purpose. That’s the difference.
Trump is the worst president ever we’ve ever seen. Made us the laughing stock, bully, racist, ignorant all over the world.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

A total of 90K showed up for the three Trump rallies in PA today.

Four showed up to hear that asshole Obama speak for Biden.

I heard that relic Bon Jovi was playing at one of Creepy Joe's rallies, and they had about 50 people there. They probably get more people to attend their band practices.

 

[Mac1958]

You displayed, ignorance, dumb and hypocrite ALL at the same time.....

All the deaths under Obama’s administration falls under OBAMA‘S LAP. Where in my post did I say he is not?
We have vaccines for flu so it’s up to citizens to take shots. Even today all are not taking the flu shots. So why didn’t Obama stop flu? Are you really that ignorant?

From you.... Why didn’t Obama orders mask, hand washing? WHY? did CDC, NIH or Fauci recommend to wear mask or social distancing? You cannot be this STUPID.

From you...... the 60 millions get caught HN1N. So who is doing a better job? Trump or Obama?
I can not believe you are this fucking ignorant. Link below to update yourself. The HN1N started here in US spread all over US without warning then spread around the world. Can anyone predict a pandemic in your own country till it’s too late? The deaths of H1N1 was 12,469. So Obama did a very good job. He took responsibility, country was calm, no business lost.


Trump.... The DIFFERENCE how that piece of shit handling the CV-19 was........... he has the warning that is coming.... He shut down west in January and west coast in March..... FINE.... The fucking difference was he went around all over playing it down, playing dumb, it’s a hoax, golfing, went overseas, this is nothing, it’s just a flu no big deal, it will go away..... With the help of those fuckers at Fox News. Then blamed Obama, finger pointing, tweeting nonsense. Didn’t do shit.......
THATS THE DIFFERENCE. Even today that SOB arrogant bastard still downplaying the crisis.... He doesn’t give a shit.
The economic crisis, health crisis, deaths, infections.....all that falls under Trump’s lap no matter how hard you or anyone try to defend Trump. That fucker doesn’t even encourage people to wear mask the least minimum he can do.


Flu deaths under Obama. If people didn’t take flu shots is that Obama’s fault?
Flu deaths in last 3 years under Trump is exactly 77,000. Is that mean it’s Trump fault? If people did not take flu shots. Is that Trump’s fault?

RACIST. Trump is a 100% racist piece of dog shit and even the whole world knew it. What difference does it make Ray? You are a racist your self. So how would you even know the difference? Kung Flu, White Power, White Supremacist supporter, Mexicans,

Trump is racist, but you voted for a guy that made multiple racist comments and even supported former segregationist lawmakers.

No, the deaths from the flu are not DumBama's fault no more than the Covid deaths are Trump's fault. Why? Because a US President cannot control a virus that's invisible to the naked eye, that's why. You said it yourself: people had the option to get flu shots, but many chose not to. So in your statement, what you are admitting to is that people caused their own demise--not the President. I think you're starting to get it now; not quite there yet, but you're getting there. Correct, people made their own personal decisions, and it wouldn't have changed a thing if DumBama went out every week and promoted getting a flu shot every single year. Even the people who loved him the most wouldn't have done it if they didn't want to. Same goes with mask wearing.

Now as for how DumBama handled H1N1, even his own people went on air and stated it was handled the worst possible way imaginable, but they just got lucky. Need the video, just let me know. In the process, he drained our resources and never restocked for the next administration.

Hindsight is 20/20. Every single one of us in this forum can say looking at the past, we could have done things a little bit better. Presidents are no exception to this. Did Trump make mistakes, yes he did. But what President ever handled a tragic situation perfectly? Trump made the mistake by providing federal money to facilities that are responsible for all the phony Covid numbers and Covid deaths. He should have never signed the additional federal unemployment compensation that influenced people not to return to work. He should have never created the Prison Reform act that allowed dope heads back out into the street to pander to black voters. Now if you can show me any President in our history that ran this country without mistakes, I'll be happy to entertain anyone of them you post.

Hindsight 20/20 does not apply to Trump how he downplayed, play dumb, play stupid , it’s a hoax...... the severity of the crisis is not acceptable.
Every single one in this forum... you mean Trump supporters only.

Did Trump made mistakes? Yes all over even today. Lie like hell.
Yes every president made mistakes but Trump does it almost on purpose. That’s the difference.
Trump is the worst president ever we’ve ever seen. Made us the laughing stock, bully, racist, ignorant all over the world.

As bad as Trump is, he's actually not the problem. Trumpism is the problem. This unconditional adoration, enabling this person's worst impulses and behaviors by refusing to hold him accountable for anything. The fact that more than 10% of this country would vote for him says something pretty bad about us as a society.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Hindsight 20/20 does not apply to Trump how he downplayed, play dumb, play stupid , it’s a hoax...... the severity of the crisis is not acceptable.
Every single one in this forum... you mean Trump supporters only.

Did Trump made mistakes? Yes all over even today. Lie like hell.
Yes every president made mistakes but Trump does it almost on purpose. That’s the difference.
Trump is the worst president ever we’ve ever seen. Made us the laughing stock, bully, racist, ignorant all over the world.

The world doesn't count, only we do. Why the leftist fascination with what the rest of the world thinks of us is beyond me. To my knowledge, they really don't care about Trump with the exceptions of the commies like we have here. Other than that, nobody really cares.

What TDS people see as playing dumb and lying, normal people see as keeping calm and giving hope. Every time you people start with that nonsense, people just turn away rolling their eyes like they do at the drunk guy at the party dancing with a lampshade on his head.

 

[charwin95]

Oh boy!
1. Trump tax cuts that you keeps bragging. You only made a couple of hundred of $, you don’t have a regular pay check right now, you are the only one I know that keeps repeating how good is the tax cuts. But the links below tells you differently.

2. Where does it say that Biden is anti business? Show me...

Where and what are Obama’s policies that are anti business? Show me.

3. Minimum Wage.... Why in the world would my employees or others care what other people’s make in other companies? Oh I’m making $16.25 they are making $15. I’m going to quit. That is so Silly. There are thousands of companies that start way over then $16 and they are not quitting. The increase to $15 is also an increments that is already happening.
Read the link what the economist are saying about MW.


In 2015 Seattle was the first city to initiate the $15 MW increase..... Anti MW like you was crying screaming OH MY GOD Seattle is going to close....... 5 years later. NONE of Seattle businesses or establishments close. None.
Look at In & Out hamburger MW and success.

These 7 charts show Trump's tax cuts still haven't been the economic 'rocket fuel' he promised, 2 years after the fact

The law achieved none of the ambitious goals that Republicans set when they were selling the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.

markets.businessinsider.com

Column: Trump’s tax cut was a mammoth fraud

The 2017 tax cut, we can now see, didn't live up to any of the promises.

www.chicagotribune.com

Americans thought they got a tax cut. What they really got was a tax increase that hasn’t yet taken effect. When you cut taxes but don’t cut spending to match, as the Nobel laureate economist Milton Friedman often noted, you are not cutting taxes but merely delaying them. And total spending has not been reduced; it has been raised.

Why America Needs a $15 Minimum Wage

The federal minimum wage is just $7.25 and has not increased since 2009. The Raise the Wage Act of 2019 would gradually raise the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour by 2024. Here is how it would work:

In-N-Out managers make $160,000 per year

In-N-Out workers can start at $13 an hour (minimum wage is $11 for California's larger companies), and work their way up to that $160,000-ish salary without a college degree.

How ridiculous. Of course your workers care about how much minimum wage is. That's why they don't work for minimum or close to minimum wage now. Why would it matter on a national level? Because the cost of living will increase right along with minimum wage, and the people who make the minimum wage today will be no further ahead. Within a few years, they'll be right back to where they are today. Your workers are not going to work for you at only a dollar over MW. They might as well get a MW job with less hours perhaps, less physical work, and less responsibility. As you stated, many companies pay well over minimum wage, and your workers will go to those companies when they are forced to increase their pay.

Your industry is stable and cannot be moved overseas, but many industries will be able to. Outside of a stretch wrap machine, yours can't be automated, but other companies will make that investment. You can't outsource your work to cheaper labor countries, but many others can. You have no idea of how much of a disaster this will be.

*** Cleveland is entirely Democrat run. Several years ago when other places were making $15.00 the minimum, Council suggested Cleveland do the same. After doing the research, they voted against their own bill because they knew it would chase businesses to the suburbs. So they approached the county, and the county didn't even entertain the idea for the same reason. It would push businesses out of our county to other counties. The idea was dropped.

DumBama was the most anti-business President in our lifetime, and Creepy Joe possibly even worse. He increased taxes on businesses, he closed down roll-you-own cigarette shops all across the country. He stopped the American Indians from selling cigarettes through the mail. He closed down the Gulf and the associated businesses that made their money from oil workers. He's attacked Gibson guitar companies several times, the final one where they issued a threat to leave the country. He increased taxes on all medical supplies which included dentists, doctors, hospitals and even veterinarians to fund his goofy medical care plan. He attacked banks and credit card companies. They made their money off of irresponsible borrowers. After he stopped them from high rate increases and penalties, they had to make that money back somewhere else, and that somewhere else was responsible borrowers like myself. He closed down auto dealerships across the country. He force GM to fire their CEO. He closed down coal mines, and tried to close down electric companies that used coal, plus made some spend millions of dollars to upgrade their company to be greener. He closed down dozens of hospitals, particularly in rural areas because of Commie Care.

More Seattle restaurants close doors as $15 minimum wage approaches - Shift Washington

Seattle’s $15 minimum wage law goes into effect on April 1, 2015. As that date approaches, restaurants across the city are making the financial decision to close shop. The Washington Policy Center writes that “closings have occurred across the city, from Grub in the upscale Queen Anne Hill...

shiftwa.org

Fight For $15 Meets Reality: D.C. Restaurants Lost 1,400 Jobs During First Half of 2016

In a shocking twist, D.C. is not exempt to the basic laws of economics.

reason.com

Not just Seattle. NYC feeling the heat from minimum wage hikes

Start spreading the news...

hotair.com

Hike in minimum wage prompts more closings of San Francisco restaurants

San Francisco's higher minimum wage is causing an increasing number of restaurants to go out of business even before it is fully phased in, a new study by the Harvard Business School found.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Pizza Shop Announces Impending Closure Due to Seattle's $15 Minimum Wage Hike

Seattle, WA- "People like me are finding themselves in a tougher situation than ever," said Seattle pizza shop employee Devin Jeran in comments to Q13 FOX

truthinmedia.com

You don’t know anything about owning a business. You are NOT qualified to make that kind of dumb assumptions. NONE. My employees have good benefits like health care, 401k, paid vacations & holidays etc etc etc. Why in the world an employee care what others make? Other companies like Abbott and Coulter pay people more than me.... I don’t see any of my employees moving. The latest employees that joined my company was 3 years longest is 18 years. You don’t know anything about business. I gave you links like In and Out hamburgers. Still you are so stuck with your anti- MW.

Do you even read your links? Read and tell me what is wrong. Look at those dates.

I asked you to proved..... What and where is Obama’s policy that are against businesses. You came up with you own opinions. Where is the LINK?

*** Several years ago. What is that mean? When Seattle was the first city that initiated $15. MW....... It took an increments till January 2020 to get to $15. How did your area even got to $15 a long time ago? LINK?