Zone1 We need a left vs. right experiment

[candycorn]

Comeback........? All day and twice on Saturday.

Exposure to sexualized materials provided in schools certainly to younger students is the issue.

Not a book turning you gay.

I see. Do banning an inanimate object is the solution. Thanks for confirming. Have another cake tubby.

 

[OODA_Loop]

I see. Do banning an inanimate object is the solution. Thanks for confirming. Have another cake tubby.

No more than banning the inanimate gun.

 

[initforme]

No we don't. We have national cultural influences that spread across right and left states.

I'm talking about highly quarantined areas where Conservatives and Leftists can operate their societies based on their clear proclaimed principles.

For example:

Conservative Society

• Tax Cuts, promoting self-determinism and personal growth, and shaming people who envy
• Minimal abortion or making it illegal and making a heavy stigma on people who get them.
• Maintaining gun laws and pushing a neutral/positive stigma onto them as protection
• Identifying people who are obese as being in bad shape and needing change/help.
• 2 sexes, men are men and women are women
• Jobs, schooling, etc. all based on merit.
• Education based on basic math, traditional literature, western philosophy, Judeo-Christian values
• Celebrated women are those that are chaste, married, have children, supportive, cooperative as the most successful
• Vetting all immigration and demanding they participate in our society, with heavy borders to keep out illegals

Leftist Society

• High taxes, focusing on the evil greed and the wealthy
• Make abortion abundant, minimize them to nothing more than getting a hang nail removed, or celebrate them.
• Make guns illegal or severely remove them from society
• Protect obese people and celebrate them as fine just the way they are
• Trans ideology
• Jobs, schooling etc involving DEI quotas for race, sex, trans identification, sexual orientation, etc.
• Education based on social issues, CRT, 1619 project, anti-religion, demonizing America and the west.
• Celebrated women are those that are highly sexual, masculine, alpha, single/divorced, combative.
• Open borders or no walls and little desire to enforce a border because it's immoral to keep people out.

I could go on.

The areas need to be able to enforce their values onto the public absolutely. You can shame people who need to be shamed. Both sides can use this, along with whatever propaganda needed to push their values.. and we'll see what happens.

But we know what would happen. The leftist society would turn into a drug-infested, high crime, wondering/depressed impoverished 3rd world wasteland, and the Conservative area would improve, be highly functional, charitable, efficient, low in crime, and motivated/stable populace.

The divorce rates in both would be very high. Neither would survive. Theyd both spiral downward into nothingness. Guaranteed.

 

[midcan5]

Experiment already in progress and the more liberal areas are doing fine. The left right is just baloney. Got rid of slavery and allow more freedoms in the more tolerant liberal areas and states. The so called conservatives are not conservative, they lean more towards fascism. America is a liberal nation founded on the belief that all men / women are created equal.

The Liberal Idea - The American Prospect

Textbooks tell us that a great gap separates classical from modern liberalism—James Madison from Franklin D. Roosevelt. Some conservatives say modern liberals betrayed the earlier tradition, and some progressives agree. But the continuities are funda

prospect.org

Trump is a fascist but being a spoiled rich boy he isn't even smart enough to know what America stands for, the privileged are often stupid when it comes to values and ideas. They grew up in a world few experience.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

The divorce rates in both would be very high. Neither would survive. Theyd both spiral downward into nothingness. Guaranteed.

Based on.. what. Your hopes?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Many on the Left will want to leave because they won't be able to afford to live their, and their system would go bust.

.. and it would be very dangerous, unkempt, and lack charity.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Because it's a solid study.

They won’t release their data. That in itself dictates it’s not a “solid” study, no matter which side or opinion a study suggests. It makes it null and void

We have 19,000 gun homicides a year.
70,000 gun injuries
23,000 gun suicides
400,000 gun crimes.

Yep. And?

1. Were a nation of like 350,000,000 people
2. If you’re so horrified, now do cars

Gun violence costs the economy $270 billion a year.

Where did you get that figure, based on what.

You keep just making things up, or citing faulty references

 

[initforme]

Based on.. what. Your hopes?

Nope. Facts. Pure facts. You will need social security and medicare or you cannot durvive as a nation without.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Nope. Facts. Pure facts.

You didn’t list any. You might want to google “fact vs. opinion” and get back to me

You will need social security and medicare or you cannot durvive as a nation without.

If there’s a strong solid foundation of Christianity, and all the sacrificial charities that go along with it, people will gladly sacrifice to help others, and that will be infinitely heightened and efficient in a smaller society.

 

[sartre play]

Create 2 areas in states that happen to have space. Both are given equal resources. One area is governed by leftist Democrat morality, policy, and desired societal norms, the other is governed by the same on the right Conservative side.

I would love to watch the outcome (as a Conservative, I know which would completely fail)

In areas that have almost total control by one political party or the other.
If we just vote by party, and not by education & experience.
We end up with some people who just have no ability to do the job.
And that is because WE made the choice to just vote for the persons who belong to Our party of choice.
SO if a person wins who happens to have the needed ability's, that town will have a better chance of a good job being done.
FROM EITHER PARTY.

 

[JoeB131]

So the gun manufactures would be responsible for the illegal acts of those using products?

Yup. Civilly liable for selling to someone who had no business owning a gun.

Yep. And?

1. Were a nation of like 350,000,000 people
2. If you’re so horrified, now do cars

We really couldn't get buy without cars.

We'd be just fine without guns.

But I'd be happy to treat guns like cars.

To operate a car, you have to be licensed, insured, registered, and you have a large number of police tasked to enforcing the laws.

 

[pal]

I am two things insane and right.
Whisperer did me insane.
Some know me.
Some atheists was crazy.
Some believers was crazy.
The Lord intend lunatics.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Yup. Civilly liable for selling to someone who had no business owning a gun.

Does the same thing apply to knives?

 

[Captain Caveman]

.. and it would be very dangerous, unkempt, and lack charity.

A Right Winger wants at their cost to better themselves to partake in society, to reap what they sow and make society better. A Left Winger wants society to pay for them and make them better off at society's cost.

 

[initforme]

You didn’t list any. You might want to google “fact vs. opinion” and get back to me

If there’s a strong solid foundation of Christianity, and all the sacrificial charities that go along with it, people will gladly sacrifice to help others, and that will be infinitely heightened and efficient in a smaller society.

Wow dumbest thing ive read.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Many on the Left will want to leave because they won't be able to afford to live their, and their system would go bust.

Live their what? Did you mean "there"?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Nope. Facts. Pure facts. You will need social security and medicare or you cannot durvive as a nation without.

Not familiar with that term.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Wow dumbest thing ive read.

That’s nice. You said nothing in reply

 

[The Irish Ram]

Trump is a fascist but being a spoiled rich boy he isn't even smart enough to know

Is he smart enough to close our border?
Is he smart enough to kick the GDP into gear?
Is he smart enough to tackle inflation?
Is he smart enough to make money hand over fist?
Are you?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Create 2 areas in states that happen to have space. Both are given equal resources. One area is governed by leftist Democrat morality, policy, and desired societal norms, the other is governed by the same on the right Conservative side.

I would love to watch the outcome (as a Conservative, I know which would completely fail)

East and West Germany?