We must restore constitutional government

[P@triot]

No, McDonald's tuition reimbursement is only $2500/year.
Tuition now is more like $12000/ year, and that does not count food and rent, which doubles that.
So McDonalds is paying only about a tenth the actual costs.

Tuition is $12,000 per year if you’re an asshole socialist lying on websites.

You can earn your associates degree for far less than $2,500 per year and then you can finish your 4-year degree for that much at a multitude of colleges. That’s just a fact.

 

[Rigby5]

No, you don't get it, Rodriguez produced nothing, and was not worth those millions.

No, you don’t get it. Rodriguez was worth every penny because he generated far more than he was paid. Millions paid large ticket prices night after night just to watch him play. Millions more bought his jersey and other items with his number on it.

Steinbrenner actually did not earn anything either, and simply made money because he had the investment money to start with.

Many people had millions and ended up bankrupt. Steinbrenner didn’t - which makes him exponentially better than most.

All people should have the same opportunity, and then their results would be due to effort and ambition, not inheritance or luck.

All people do have the same opportunity. Bill Gates wasn’t born a billionaire. Hell, he wasn’t even born a millionaire. He came from an average, middle-class family.

Steve Jobs was given up for adoption by his mother. He was adopted by a middle class family. He died a billionaire (without a college education).

The cream rises to the top. Anyone who doesn’t succeed, failed because they had nothing to offer. It really is that simple.

I disagree.
I think Steinbrenner and Rodriguez both both simply accomplices in what essentially is a fraud that manipulates people into paying for something that is worthless.

Anyone who starts with millions and loses it has to either be a total moron, or the victim of a swindle.
Even mutual funds give you a safe 5% return, and real estate has given me a safe 30% return.
All I have to do is come up with the assurances to get the mortgage, and then the renters buy houses for me, without me spending a cent.

And Bill Gates was a terrible example. He never produced anything good or useful in his entire life, and committed more wholesale crimes than anyone I know. His start was selling DOS to IBM, but he did not write DOS. He bought it from a Seattle fireman who wrote it as a hobby, an is really just a version of the public domain OS, CP/M. The smart thing Gates did was retain rights to DOS when he sold it to IBM, but that was really just IBM being stupid. And the rise of Microsoft was mostly by illegal trust crimes, like buying out shelf space or dumping, so that better operating system went under. If there is anyone in the world who should be in jail, it is Bill Gates. Nothing he can do now can make up for what he did in the past. And I would be he is not actually helping anyone now either, but just using charities to cover illegal medical experimentation on poor populations in the world.

I happen to like Steve Jobs somewhat, but he also actually did nothing. He did not really know how to program. All he did was to coordinate resources of others. And he almost ruined Apple when he pushed the Lisa for $15k and tried to ban work on the Mac, that would later see millions at a tenth the price of the Lisa.

Look at all the millionaires/billionaires, and most of them are pretty stupid. Ford almost went under because he thought cars should not change or vary, and they should all be black.

I am successful but will never be a millionaire because you have to be jerk in order to do that.
Never found anyone who is worth millions who earned it and was not a jerk, if not an actual criminal.

 

[Rigby5]

No, McDonald's tuition reimbursement is only $2500/year.
Tuition now is more like $12000/ year, and that does not count food and rent, which doubles that.
So McDonalds is paying only about a tenth the actual costs.

Tuition is $12,000 per year if you’re an asshole socialist lying on websites.

You can earn your associates degree for far less than $2,500 per year and then you can finish your 4-year degree for that much at a multitude of colleges. That’s just a fact.

Well actually that is what I did, the first 2 years at a community college, to save money.
But that is difficult and disorienting to most people, because it means going it alone constantly.
You can't have any social life at a community college, or by switching schools later.
And I still had to sleep in a VW van in the cold WI winter, to be able to afford it.

 

[P@triot]

I think Steinbrenner and Rodriguez both both simply accomplices in what essentially is a fraud that manipulates people into paying for something that is worthless.

That's exactly what all welfare socialists say. It doesn't matter what you think. The fact is, people paid for what they wanted.

Anyone who starts with millions and loses it has to either be a total moron, or the victim of a swindle. Even mutual funds give you a safe 5% return, and real estate has given me a safe 30% return.

Do you think at all before you post? Business owners have costs. They have overhead. They can't sit on their money in "mutual funds" trying not to go broke.

Please stop talking about economics. You're just embarrassing yourself at this point.

 

[P@triot]

And Bill Gates was a terrible example.

Of course he was. Because he proved everything you've cried about in this thread is pure nonsense. He was a middle class child who became a billionaire.

He never produced anything good or useful in his entire life

Yeah, just Microsoft Windows. The platform that literally changed the world. Which allowed businesses to operate. Which allowed other businesses (like Facebook) to even be created.

For the love of God, just stop talking. Nobody is taking you seriously at this point. Nobody.

 

[danielpalos]

No, McDonald's tuition reimbursement is only $2500/year.
Tuition now is more like $12000/ year, and that does not count food and rent, which doubles that.
So McDonalds is paying only about a tenth the actual costs.

Tuition is $12,000 per year if you’re an asshole socialist lying on websites.

You can earn your associates degree for far less than $2,500 per year and then you can finish your 4-year degree for that much at a multitude of colleges. That’s just a fact.

Well actually that is what I did, the first 2 years at a community college, to save money.
But that is difficult and disorienting to most people, because it means going it alone constantly.
You can't have any social life at a community college, or by switching schools later.
And I still had to sleep in a VW van in the cold WI winter, to be able to afford it.

What if, you could have applied for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States?

Equal protection of our at-will employment laws could make that a reality for our posterity.

 

[P@triot]

His start was selling DOS to IBM, but he did not write DOS. He bought it from a Seattle fireman who wrote it as a hobby, an is really just a version of the public domain OS, CP/M. The smart thing Gates did was retain rights to DOS when he sold it to IBM, but that was really just IBM being stupid.

No son, the smart thing Bill Gates did was create Microsoft Windows. DOS didn't make billions. It was a command-based OS. It was Windows - a GUI OS that changed the world. Everything you've said to this point has been 100% wrong. You haven't made a single statement that was accurate. Which is the hallmark of socialists.

And the rise of Microsoft was mostly by illegal trust crimes, like buying out shelf space or dumping, so that better operating system went under.

If it was a "better" operating system, it would have beaten Windows. That's just a simple fact. Others failed to topple Windows because they were inferior.

I happen to like Steve Jobs somewhat, but he also actually did nothing.

Yeah, he only created Apple - the company with the highest valuation in history. That's all. Other than that though, he did "nothing".

He did not really know how to program.

So what? Neither does your messiah Fidel Castro. Neither does Warren Buffet. Coding is not the ultimate metric of success. Jobs was a visionary. He understood what people wanted/needed and he knew how to run a company. He wasn't chief coder. He was Chief Executive Officer of Apple.

Look at all the millionaires/billionaires, and most of them are pretty stupid.

Yeah...it's all of you welfare queen socialists who are really the geniuses

Ford almost went under because he thought cars should not change or vary, and they should all be black.

And my aunt was almost born with testicles, making her almost my uncle. But you know what? She wasn't. And Ford didn't go under. Instead, he created an empire that resulted in generational wealth for his family. Something you will never do.

 

[P@triot]

I am successful

No you're not. Not at all.

but will never be a millionaire

The first accurate thing you've said in this thread.

Never found anyone who is worth millions who earned it and was not a jerk, if not an actual criminal.

Yeah, they aren't first-class, caring, murderous thugs like socialists such as Fidel Castro, Joseph Stalin, and the rest of your boys.

 

[danielpalos]

I am successful

No you're not. Not at all.

but will never be a millionaire

The first accurate thing you've said in this thread.

Never found anyone who is worth millions who earned it and was not a jerk, if not an actual criminal.

Yeah, they aren't first-class, caring, murderous thugs like socialists such as Fidel Castro, Joseph Stalin, and the rest of your boys.

What a difference a Constitution makes.

 

[P@triot]

But that is difficult and disorienting to most people, because it means going it alone constantly.

That makes 0 sense. It's not even coherent.

You can't have any social life at a community college, or by switching schools later.

Nor should you. You're not there for a "social life". You're there for an education. You're showing everything that is wrong with the left. They think the government should take money from everyone else and give it to socialists so they can spend $25,000 a year to have a "social life" and party at a college.

And I still had to sleep in a VW van in the cold WI winter, to be able to afford it.

Good. It's called sacrifice. Anything worth doing is hard.

 

[P@triot]

What a difference a Constitution makes.

1. You wouldn't know the US Constitution if it slapped you in the face
2. Left-wing thugs don't care about constitutions. They ignore them, then destroy them

 

[danielpalos]

What a difference a Constitution makes.

1. You wouldn't know the US Constitution if it slapped you in the face
2. Left-wing thugs don't care about constitutions. They ignore them, then destroy them

You must love Right Wing fantasy where you only have the "gospel Truth" in whatever you claim.

 

[Rigby5]

I think Steinbrenner and Rodriguez both both simply accomplices in what essentially is a fraud that manipulates people into paying for something that is worthless.

That's exactly what all welfare socialists say. It doesn't matter what you think. The fact is, people paid for what they wanted.

Anyone who starts with millions and loses it has to either be a total moron, or the victim of a swindle. Even mutual funds give you a safe 5% return, and real estate has given me a safe 30% return.

Do you think at all before you post? Business owners have costs. They have overhead. They can't sit on their money in "mutual funds" trying not to go broke.

Please stop talking about economics. You're just embarrassing yourself at this point.

You have a point in that my socialism would give me a disposition against what I consider wastes, like professional sports, and people should be free to choose, since I could be wrong, at least for them.

But you are wrong about someone inheriting millions and just putting it into mutual funds.
There are no costs to mutual funds, so they will will make plenty of profit without risk.
If they decide to invest in a risky business instead, that is greed and their own fault if they fail.

I know about all there is to know about economics.
And the proof is I am successful, just not a millionaire.

 

[Rigby5]

And Bill Gates was a terrible example.

Of course he was. Because he proved everything you've cried about in this thread is pure nonsense. He was a middle class child who became a billionaire.

He never produced anything good or useful in his entire life

Yeah, just Microsoft Windows. The platform that literally changed the world. Which allowed businesses to operate. Which allowed other businesses (like Facebook) to even be created.

For the love of God, just stop talking. Nobody is taking you seriously at this point. Nobody.

Gates has essentially nothing to do with Windows, and it is about the worst operating system ever invented.
It could not even do multi tasking, a long industry standard for decades before Windows, until 1995.
There were dozens of better OSs before Windows that were far better, and Gates hired most of the programmers who made them, after he caused them to become unemployed.
Window is the worst throwback, and held back computers over a decade behind where they should be.

 

[Rigby5]

His start was selling DOS to IBM, but he did not write DOS. He bought it from a Seattle fireman who wrote it as a hobby, an is really just a version of the public domain OS, CP/M. The smart thing Gates did was retain rights to DOS when he sold it to IBM, but that was really just IBM being stupid.

No son, the smart thing Bill Gates did was create Microsoft Windows. DOS didn't make billions. It was a command-based OS. It was Windows - a GUI OS that changed the world. Everything you've said to this point has been 100% wrong. You haven't made a single statement that was accurate. Which is the hallmark of socialists.

And the rise of Microsoft was mostly by illegal trust crimes, like buying out shelf space or dumping, so that better operating system went under.

If it was a "better" operating system, it would have beaten Windows. That's just a simple fact. Others failed to topple Windows because they were inferior.

I happen to like Steve Jobs somewhat, but he also actually did nothing.

Yeah, he only created Apple - the company with the highest valuation in history. That's all. Other than that though, he did "nothing".

He did not really know how to program.

So what? Neither does your messiah Fidel Castro. Neither does Warren Buffet. Coding is not the ultimate metric of success. Jobs was a visionary. He understood what people wanted/needed and he knew how to run a company. He wasn't chief coder. He was Chief Executive Officer of Apple.

Look at all the millionaires/billionaires, and most of them are pretty stupid.

Yeah...it's all of you welfare queen socialists who are really the geniuses

Ford almost went under because he thought cars should not change or vary, and they should all be black.

And my aunt was almost born with testicles, making her almost my uncle. But you know what? She wasn't. And Ford didn't go under. Instead, he created an empire that resulted in generational wealth for his family. Something you will never do.

Wrong.
Windows originally was just a graphical image manipulation on top of DOS as first.
Windows was not a new operating system at all, and it was DOS where Gates made most of his money.
Gates resisted changing Windows to be a real operating system, and all other operating systems were always at least 10 times better.
For example, no real operating system should ever be susceptible to virus attacks like Windows always has been.
You don't need constant patches to Linux like you do for Windows.
That is because Windows uses COM as its basic organizational structure, for example DirectX is COM based, and COM is based on the non-Microsoft RPC, which is never supposed to be or going to be safe.
All Microsoft products are the worst that have ever been made, and all the competition was destroyed either illegally or by unethical trust abuses.
Digital Research and Borland made products hundreds of times better.

Castro was a state capitalist, and the opposite of a socialist.

I do not mind what Jobs did, but he was not making a great product. He just knew how to market.
For example of a huge mistake he kept making was the 1 button mouse. Everyone likes more mouse buttons.

As for Ford, it was only relatives and the board of directors that saved the company, not Ford himself.
He had as many blind spots as he had good visions.

And I am likely more financially more successful than you.
You don't seem to understand the realities of life or business.
The whole point of capitalism is to leverage unfair advantages.

 

[Rigby5]

I am successful

No you're not. Not at all.

but will never be a millionaire

The first accurate thing you've said in this thread.

Never found anyone who is worth millions who earned it and was not a jerk, if not an actual criminal.

Yeah, they aren't first-class, caring, murderous thugs like socialists such as Fidel Castro, Joseph Stalin, and the rest of your boys.

I already am successful, and have close to a million in assets.
It is just that I am now retired and not wanting to expand any more.

And again, Castro, Stalin, Mao, etc. were/are state capitalists, and not at all remotely socialist.
They were/are the exact opposite of socialist.

 

[Rigby5]

But that is difficult and disorienting to most people, because it means going it alone constantly.

That makes 0 sense. It's not even coherent.

You can't have any social life at a community college, or by switching schools later.

Nor should you. You're not there for a "social life". You're there for an education. You're showing everything that is wrong with the left. They think the government should take money from everyone else and give it to socialists so they can spend $25,000 a year to have a "social life" and party at a college.

And I still had to sleep in a VW van in the cold WI winter, to be able to afford it.

Good. It's called sacrifice. Anything worth doing is hard.

The phrase "going it alone" is a coloquialism, meaning that you give up your social life.
It is like the lyrics about "you want to travel with her, and you want to travel blind".

Humans NEED a social life, and the transition from high school to college can be devastating for most people.
They likely are greatly harmed by it.
You need to understand why Dickens wrote about Scrooge.
He was pointing out things wrong with material society that lacks social values.

 

[Rigby5]

What a difference a Constitution makes.

1. You wouldn't know the US Constitution if it slapped you in the face
2. Left-wing thugs don't care about constitutions. They ignore them, then destroy them

The constitution is mostly left wing.
It is restricting government and protecting individual rights.

 

[danielpalos]

What a difference a Constitution makes.

1. You wouldn't know the US Constitution if it slapped you in the face
2. Left-wing thugs don't care about constitutions. They ignore them, then destroy them

The constitution is mostly left wing.
It is restricting government and protecting individual rights.

This is our "mission statement" for our form of Constitutional Government.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

 

[Rigby5]

What a difference a Constitution makes.

1. You wouldn't know the US Constitution if it slapped you in the face
2. Left-wing thugs don't care about constitutions. They ignore them, then destroy them

The constitution is mostly left wing.
It is restricting government and protecting individual rights.

This is our "mission statement" for our form of Constitutional Government.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Correct.
All that we want government for, is socialism, like to protect us from capitalist dictators, monarchs, and feudal barons.
All the bad comes from when a few want to abuse others for unearned profits.
And government is designed and intended to protect us from that.

The fact government can also become a corrupt danger, usually is from capitalists infiltrating and manipulating government away from its original purposes.