We must restore constitutional government

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The people tasked with enforcing our laws are the same people violating our most important laws....

Beyond the controversial ways stingray technology works, the secrecy and deception law enforcement agencies use to cloak their use of the devices is also troubling. Law enforcement agencies around the country have routinely used the devices without obtaining a warrant from judges. In cases where they did obtain a warrant, they often deceived judges about the nature of the technology they planned to use. Instead of telling judges that they intended to use a stingray or cell site simulator, they have often mischaracterized the technology, describing it as a pen register device instead.

Hacker Lexicon: Stingrays, the Spy Tool the Government Tried, and Failed, to Hide
 

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“We must restore constitutional government”

Such is the ignorant nonsense of the TPM and others on the ridiculous right.

The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’ – the notion is moronic, baseless idiocy.

The Federal government is functioning as intended by the Founding Generation: a Constitutional Republic whose citizens are subject solely to the rule of law, not men – as men are incapable of ruling justly.

A Federal government afforded by the Constitution powers both expressed and implied (McCulloch v. Maryland (1819)).

A Federal government whose laws are supreme, where the Supreme Court determines what the Constitution means, as authorized by the doctrine of Judicial Review and Articles III and VI of the Constitution, and where rulings by the Supreme Court become the law of the land, binding on the states and local jurisdictions, who have no ‘right’ to ‘nullify’ or ‘ignore’ Federal law or the rulings of Federal courts (Cooper v. Aaron (1958)).

That conservatives, libertarians, and members of the TPM disagree with Supreme Court decisions because those rulings might conflict with errant, wrongheaded conservative dogma is of no consequence and devoid of merit.
 

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Lol, nearly every constitutional professor in this country would disagree with you., You don't know shit about the constitution! The president has had executive power since washington as our government has three equal branches of government. What this means is the president also has some power.

You honestly think the president shouldn't have power? lol The federal government always had power and that is why we gave up on the original bs of everything being at the state level.

Your idea of constitutional government is one where the corporate sector runs everything without regulations or human rights. It is ugly and it is bs.
 

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The people tasked with enforcing our laws are the same people violating our most important laws....

Beyond the controversial ways stingray technology works, the secrecy and deception law enforcement agencies use to cloak their use of the devices is also troubling. Law enforcement agencies around the country have routinely used the devices without obtaining a warrant from judges. In cases where they did obtain a warrant, they often deceived judges about the nature of the technology they planned to use. Instead of telling judges that they intended to use a stingray or cell site simulator, they have often mischaracterized the technology, describing it as a pen register device instead.

Hacker Lexicon: Stingrays, the Spy Tool the Government Tried, and Failed, to Hide

Indeed - those that laud over us are generally the biggest law-breakers in the United States. Look no farther than the rotten, no-good Clintons.
 

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The liberterian idea of constitutional government is a government that is powerless to do the will of the people and does only shit that they want. Liberterians and far right conservatives are a bunch of fascist assholes. Simply meaning that they think by the people means that the government should be so limited that the people shouldn't be able to elect a government that does more then sit on its dick.
 

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Lol, nearly every constitutional professor in this country would disagree with you., You don't know shit about the constitution! The president has had executive power such washington as our government has three equal branches of government. What this means is the president also has some power.

You honestly think the president shouldn't have power? lol The federal government always had power and that is why we gave up on the original bs of everything being at the state level.

Your idea of constitutional government is one where the corporate sector runs everything without regulations or human rights. It is ugly and it is bs.
Considering the poor quality of some "constitutional professors" - pffft. Who cares?

Oh, BTW. The branches are no longer equal.
 
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“We must restore constitutional government”

Such is the ignorant nonsense of the TPM and others on the ridiculous right.

The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’ – the notion is moronic, baseless idiocy.

The Federal government is functioning as intended by the Founding Generation: a Constitutional Republic whose citizens are subject solely to the rule of law, not men – as men are incapable of ruling justly.

A Federal government afforded by the Constitution powers both expressed and implied (McCulloch v. Maryland (1819)).

A Federal government whose laws are supreme, where the Supreme Court determines what the Constitution means, as authorized by the doctrine of Judicial Review and Articles III and VI of the Constitution, and where rulings by the Supreme Court become the law of the land, binding on the states and local jurisdictions, who have no ‘right’ to ‘nullify’ or ‘ignore’ Federal law or the rulings of Federal courts (Cooper v. Aaron (1958)).

That conservatives, libertarians, and members of the TPM disagree with Supreme Court decisions because those rulings might conflict with errant, wrongheaded conservative dogma is of no consequence and devoid of merit.
So wiretapping without a warrant is "constitutional" in your mind? :cuckoo:

Proof that CCJ has no idea what the Constitution is and that he's obviously never read it.
 

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Our government violates the Constitution routinely at every level. Sure, a lot of what they do can be twisted into being "Constitutional" but they clearly DO violate the original intent that our founders laid out, and they do it often. It's just that over the years, those who have sought to subvert it have found ways to chip away at it, change people's minds about what things mean, convince people that it's supposed to be "flexible" and applicable to "the times". They create crises to exploit and then use fear to get the people to give up a little of their freedom voluntarily.
The founders gave us the tools we need to stop it but we loaned those tools out to the enemy and now the enemy is using them to enslave us all, little by little. And we'll never get them back.
 

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Our government violates the Constitution routinely at every level. Sure, a lot of what they do can be twisted into being "Constitutional" but they clearly DO violate the original intent that our founders laid out, and they do it often. It's just that over the years, those who have sought to subvert it have found ways to chip away at it, change people's minds about what things mean, convince people that it's supposed to be "flexible" and applicable to "the times". They create crises to exploit and then use fear to get the people to give up a little of their freedom voluntarily.
The founders gave us the tools we need to stop it but we loaned those tools out to the enemy and now the enemy is using them to enslave us all, little by little. And we'll never get them back.
Pivotal positions. Not apex positions.

Go white rabbit!
 

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.......The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’ – the notion is moronic, baseless idiocy.
If that is so; and I dont believe it is; then this country has never and will never have any validity or morality and should be burned to the ground.
 
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The liberterian idea of constitutional government is a government that is powerless to do the will of the people and does only shit that they want. Liberterians and far right conservatives are a bunch of fascist assholes. Simply meaning that they think by the people means that the government should be so limited that the people shouldn't be able to elect a government that does more then sit on its dick.
This rant by this vintage libtard is simply priceless. In his infinite ignorance (mixed with his infinite fear that the right will pull his government gravy train away from him and - gasp! - expect him to provide for himself like a big boy), he contradicts himself.

Fascism | Definition of Fascism by Merriam-Webster
Merriam-Webster › dictionary › fascism
Definition of fascism for Students. : a political system headed by a dictator in which the government controls business and labor and opposition is not permitted.

Well, if the right wants a "powerless" government that is the exact opposite of "fascism" in which the government wields unlimited power to control everything. Yes folks...libtards really are this stupid. :lmao:
 

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Our government violates the Constitution routinely at every level. Sure, a lot of what they do can be twisted into being "Constitutional" but they clearly DO violate the original intent that our founders laid out, and they do it often. It's just that over the years, those who have sought to subvert it have found ways to chip away at it, change people's minds about what things mean, convince people that it's supposed to be "flexible" and applicable to "the times". They create crises to exploit and then use fear to get the people to give up a little of their freedom voluntarily.
The founders gave us the tools we need to stop it but we loaned those tools out to the enemy and now the enemy is using them to enslave us all, little by little. And we'll never get them back.
Government is constrained by the Constitution, they hate that and are constantly looking for ways around it so they can be corrupt.
 
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Lol, nearly every constitutional professor in this country would disagree with you., You don't know shit about the constitution! The president has had executive power since washington as our government has three equal branches of government. What this means is the president also has some power.

You honestly think the president shouldn't have power? lol The federal government always had power and that is why we gave up on the original bs of everything being at the state level.

Your idea of constitutional government is one where the corporate sector runs everything without regulations or human rights. It is ugly and it is bs.
Come on little Matty...use your words. What exactly is it that you are so afraid of? Having to hold a job? Awwwwww.....pooooooor baby.

First of all, there is nothing "equal" about the three current branches of government. But you would need to have read the U.S. Constitution and understand it to be aware of that (something which you clearly are not). For instance, the law states that it is illegal for someone to enter the country through any means other than prescribed by law (ie work visa, naturalization/citizenship, etc.). As leader of the executive branch - Barack Obama must enforce the law. Instead, he issues a "Presidential Memorandum" stating that illegal aliens will not be deported for the time being and holds a press conference specifically to let those illegal aliens know they are "safe" and don't have to worry. But hey.....you're a libtard! You don't have to worry about facts. You can just spout stupid shit like "libertarians want powerless, castrated government because they are stupid fascists" :lol:

By the way junior - the fact that you think "equal three branches of government" constitutes "Constitutional governmet" is as hilarious as it is tragic. Our founders designed our entire system of governmet with a focus on the vertical separation of powers first and foremost, then a horizontals sepeststion of powers (ie then"three branches" you like to crow about so you can pretend like you know what you're talking about) second as an additional measure of ensuring limited powers by any person or governing body.

Here - don't be afraid to learn something for once: X-Patriot (Constitutional Writes) | X Amendment. I'll even make it really easy for you. Fifth paragraph, second sentence.
 

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“We must restore constitutional government”

Such is the ignorant nonsense of the TPM and others on the ridiculous right.

The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’ – the notion is moronic, baseless idiocy.

The Federal government is functioning as intended by the Founding Generation: a Constitutional Republic whose citizens are subject solely to the rule of law, not men – as men are incapable of ruling justly.

A Federal government afforded by the Constitution powers both expressed and implied (McCulloch v. Maryland (1819)).

A Federal government whose laws are supreme, where the Supreme Court determines what the Constitution means, as authorized by the doctrine of Judicial Review and Articles III and VI of the Constitution, and where rulings by the Supreme Court become the law of the land, binding on the states and local jurisdictions, who have no ‘right’ to ‘nullify’ or ‘ignore’ Federal law or the rulings of Federal courts (Cooper v. Aaron (1958)).

That conservatives, libertarians, and members of the TPM disagree with Supreme Court decisions because those rulings might conflict with errant, wrongheaded conservative dogma is of no consequence and devoid of merit.

So the courts have designated themselves to be all powerful legislators, FUCK THE SOBs. All legislative powers rest in the Congress, not the courts.
 

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Our government violates the Constitution routinely at every level. Sure, a lot of what they do can be twisted into being "Constitutional" but they clearly DO violate the original intent that our founders laid out, and they do it often. It's just that over the years, those who have sought to subvert it have found ways to chip away at it, change people's minds about what things mean, convince people that it's supposed to be "flexible" and applicable to "the times". They create crises to exploit and then use fear to get the people to give up a little of their freedom voluntarily.
The founders gave us the tools we need to stop it but we loaned those tools out to the enemy and now the enemy is using them to enslave us all, little by little. And we'll never get them back.
Article 5 is the only way, and that will require a lot of changes at the State level.
 
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“We must restore constitutional government”

Such is the ignorant nonsense of the TPM and others on the ridiculous right.

The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’ – the notion is moronic, baseless idiocy.

The Federal government is functioning as intended by the Founding Generation: a Constitutional Republic whose citizens are subject solely to the rule of law, not men – as men are incapable of ruling justly.

A Federal government afforded by the Constitution powers both expressed and implied (McCulloch v. Maryland (1819)).

A Federal government whose laws are supreme, where the Supreme Court determines what the Constitution means, as authorized by the doctrine of Judicial Review and Articles III and VI of the Constitution, and where rulings by the Supreme Court become the law of the land, binding on the states and local jurisdictions, who have no ‘right’ to ‘nullify’ or ‘ignore’ Federal law or the rulings of Federal courts (Cooper v. Aaron (1958)).

That conservatives, libertarians, and members of the TPM disagree with Supreme Court decisions because those rulings might conflict with errant, wrongheaded conservative dogma is of no consequence and devoid of merit.
So the courts have designated themselves to be all powerful legislators, FUCK THE SOBs. All legislative powers rest in the Congress, not the courts.
Isn't is sad that you have to explain that to CCJ? Even by normal liberal standards, he's one of the more uninformed about the Constitution and his own government.
 

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“We must restore constitutional government”

Such is the ignorant nonsense of the TPM and others on the ridiculous right.

The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’ – the notion is moronic, baseless idiocy.

The Federal government is functioning as intended by the Founding Generation: a Constitutional Republic whose citizens are subject solely to the rule of law, not men – as men are incapable of ruling justly.

A Federal government afforded by the Constitution powers both expressed and implied (McCulloch v. Maryland (1819)).

A Federal government whose laws are supreme, where the Supreme Court determines what the Constitution means, as authorized by the doctrine of Judicial Review and Articles III and VI of the Constitution, and where rulings by the Supreme Court become the law of the land, binding on the states and local jurisdictions, who have no ‘right’ to ‘nullify’ or ‘ignore’ Federal law or the rulings of Federal courts (Cooper v. Aaron (1958)).

That conservatives, libertarians, and members of the TPM disagree with Supreme Court decisions because those rulings might conflict with errant, wrongheaded conservative dogma is of no consequence and devoid of merit.
Yo, none of that shit you copied, has anything to do with a Dictator Obama of today, what a real fool!!!

"GTP"
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Such is the ignorant nonsense of the TPM and others on the ridiculous right. The United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government, nothing needs to be ‘restored’ – the notion is moronic, baseless idiocy.
Come on stupid....tell us again how "the United States is currently functioning under Constitutional government". You know that's a blatant lie. You know nearly everything you say is a blatant lie. You know you tell these blatant lies because you have an agenda - advancing a failed ideology.

Federal judge rules Obamacare is being funded unconstitutionally
 

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