Zone1 We Know Men’s duties and obligations to women, but what are women’s duties and obligations to men?

[80zephyr]

A belief is not evidence a belief doesnt have to be proven only facts do.

There are no facts when the subject is God.

 

[Hafar1014]

There are no facts when the subject is God.

Or atheism also a belief

 

[80zephyr]

Or atheism also a belief

Yes, it is.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

What it means it that evidence does exist, and you dismiss people for their beliefs. And their beliefs are as valid as your own.

Jesus may have existed. And_________?

 

[Hafar1014]

Jesus may have existed. And_________?

Heres why Jesus never existed. There is no original sin in Genesis. That means there was no reason for Jesus to exist

 

[Paradoxical#1]

You believe they dont exist because you cant prove they dont exist

Nope. I can’t prove lots of crazy ides are false. That is not my job. It’s your job to prove your case with something other than claims from 2,000 years ago.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

OK present it here now

Present what? This is crazy. It’s like saying Joseph Smith found gold plates and I must prove he didn’t or believe it.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

You stated there is no evidence. The bible would be evidence.

The Bible is not evidence. It is a story. Is a Superman comic evidence that Superman existed?

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Heres why Jesus never existed. There is no original sin in Genesis. That means there was no reason for Jesus to exist

Christianity is a fabrication.

 

[Hafar1014]

Nope. I can’t prove lots of crazy ides are false. That is not my job. It’s your job to prove your case with something other than claims from 2,000 years ago.

my case is you cant prove the existence or nonexistence of god. I havet said what I believe.
If you claim god does not exist as fact then you have to prove it. If its your belief then you dont.
Atheists fall into this trap all the time. They claim its fact then cant prove it and then the tap dancing starts.

 

[jbrownson0831]

The Bible is not evidence. It is a story. Is a Superman comic evidence that Superman existed?

Well you will certainly discover whether or not Jesus existed one day......

 

[jbrownson0831]

Christianity is a fabrication.

You had better hope you are right.

 

[Hafar1014]

Christianity is a fabrication.

The dogma is but the religion and moral structure is very real and it is success for the family the culture and healthy nation. So is Judaism which is the oral foundation of Christianity.
Atheism is also made up

 

[80zephyr]

Jesus may have existed. And_________?

The evidence shows him to be who he claimed to be.

 

[80zephyr]

Nope. I can’t prove lots of crazy ides are false. That is not my job. It’s your job to prove your case with something other than claims from 2,000 years ago.

Using your logic we can claim anything that happened before we were born is unsubstantiated.

 

[80zephyr]

The Bible is not evidence. It is a story. Is a Superman comic evidence that Superman existed?

According to you. But for you to say there is no evidence is wrong. Simply state that there is no evidence you are willing to believe. But, don't hold others to your standard.

 

[ding]

In my Jewish opinion no. Jesus is an idol, a god with a personality name and image created because the abstract God of the Jews was too vague for the average person to connect with. Religion was the government then a means to control people. Christian dogma was means to control people. So we have youre all born in sin need Jesus or else youre going to hell. Its manipulation by threats

24,000 written manuscripts say otherwise.

 

[ding]

Heres why Jesus never existed. There is no original sin in Genesis. That means there was no reason for Jesus to exist

That’s not how you prove Jesus never existed.

 

[ding]

Christianity is a fabrication.

How so?

 

[Hafar1014]

That’s not how you prove Jesus never existed.

Of course it is there was no reason for him to exist as stated.