We Have the Right to Assemble and Freedom of Religion - Unlawful Arrest of Preacher

[WEATHER53]

I must have missed the universal proclamation and agreement that eons old contaigent health issues take precedent over everything else in life and vacate freedoms

being alive to enjoy those freedoms comes first

Who says you won’t be alive. Very small chance you get this and very very small chance you are hospitalized and very very very small chance you die.
Very big chance economy is crushed and livelihoods of many destroyed
All you just provided was another typical melodramatic liberal emotive dramatic overreaction known as Lib 101

my husband's cousin's husband has a cleaning & powerwashing business. he's been hired by NYS to clean & sterilize box trucks that will be converted into freezers for the dead bodies that are starting to pile up

Makes a neato urban legend

If You Die Poor or Alone in New York City, You’ll Be Buried by Prisoners in a Mass Grave

I don’t do much with ifs. Should an if become an is, then it’s action time

Would make a cute epitaph for you.

I’m gonna have em play the slide steel part of Layla when everyone is leaving the funeral

 

[OldLady]

This topic is almost as popular as trannies in the bathroom. I haven't seen a thread keep crankin' like this in awhile.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

After conversing with a few of these nutcases it is very obvious.....they are very confused and not very bright....rather sad actually but they must be held accountable for what they are doing....these crazy and stupid pastors who encourage these gathering should be given significant and mandatory jail sentences....I am sure that would put a stop to the nonsense real quick.

So now, you want to put people in jail for exercising their freedom of speech as well as their freedoms of religion and assembly.

Is there any part of the First Amendment that you're not eager to trash? You've already trashed most of it. Not having it memorized, nor having it in front of me at the moment, and going only on memory of what it contains, I think freedom of the press and the right to petition government are the only First Amendment rights that you haven't yet trashed.

 

[WEATHER53]

Bob
I’m all in with you on the right of it but it’s not a requirement to exercise the right
Having capitulated as much as I can I am resigned to living like the 50’s for a while. Little to do, nowhere to go.
I don’t think health practices trump religious practices either but I dont want a buffet, a basketball game or a casino right now. I think the relevant numbers are halfway in and I can give it 10-14 more days. I think a couple of good posters have said it Mostly boils down to we just don’t know including how to measure it all.

 

[Issa]

Looks like some of our government officials haven't read the Constitution.

---Pastor Rodney Howard-Browne was charged with misdemeanor counts of unlawful assembly---

Florida megachurch pastor arrested for holding services despite health order

A Florida pastor was arrested on Monday for operating a Tampa megachurch in violation of a public health order prohibiting large gatherings in place to stem the spread of the coronavirus. &nbs…

thehill.com

Oh so it is not trump's fault once again ? Is it Obama's? Clinton or jesus ?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

The law is being laid down.....in most states i think…

I remind you that the First Amendment is the law, and that as part of the Constitution—this nation's highest law—it takes precedence over all lesser laws.

 

[Dr Grump]

Looks like some of our government officials haven't read the Constitution.

---Pastor Rodney Howard-Browne was charged with misdemeanor counts of unlawful assembly---

Florida megachurch pastor arrested for holding services despite health order

A Florida pastor was arrested on Monday for operating a Tampa megachurch in violation of a public health order prohibiting large gatherings in place to stem the spread of the coronavirus. &nbs…

thehill.com

Public safety, kid. Emergency measures and all that.

Zackly. This isn't exactly hard to figure out except for trolls who demand to know why they aren't getting enough attention. It's cognate to the difference between "free speech" and "yelling 'FIRE' in a crowded theater" --- public safety.

It must have slipped right by the OP that the Preamble to that same Constitution explains its raison d'être as "to promote the general Welfare and secure the Blessings of Life". It does indeed go on to "Liberty" but simple math tells us there's no Liberty for the dead.

Lenny's right to go around and infect people so he can go where he wants, shall not be infringed!

 

[Bob Blaylock]

There really is no basis for a argument...it is quite simple....the President in a time of a National Emergency can issue executive orders of any nature....including banning all gatherings in order to enhance National Security......that is what many miss....it is a matter of National Security.

Where, in the Constitution, is this power mentioned? And where, in the Constitution, is the President authorized to override the Constitution with a unilateral order?

 

[Dr Grump]

The law is being laid down.....in most states i think…

I remind you that the First Amendment is the law, and that as part of the Constitution—this nation's highest law—it takes precedence over all lesser laws.

Go shout fire in a crowded theatre. See how that works for ya...

 

[Pogo]

The law is being laid down.....in most states i think…

I remind you that the First Amendment is the law, and that as part of the Constitution—this nation's highest law—it takes precedence over all lesser laws.

and I remind YOU that what the 1A says is, quote, "Congress shall make no Law..."

Now if you can show us where Congress made a Law, run with it.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

the constitution is moot

No. The Constitution is never moot, as much as you filthy, subhuman, tyrannical left wrong-wing pieces of shit always wish that you could make it moot.

The Constitution remains this nation's highest law, no matter what excuse any corrupt public servant might think he can cook up for illegally disregarding it.

 

[Pogo]

the constitution is moot

No. The Constitution is never moot, as much as you filthy, subhuman, tyrannical left wrong-wing pieces of shit always wish that you could make it moot.

The Constitution remains this nation's highest law, no matter what excuse any corrupt public servant might think he can cook up for illegally disregarding it.

You actually need a definition for what the word "Congress" means?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

and I remind YOU that what the 1A says is, quote, "Congress shall make no Law..."

Now if you can show us where Congress made a Law, run with it.

That's a thoroughly dishonest argument. Clearly, in using that phrase to start the First Amendment, it was not the authors' intent to allow any other part of government to violate the rights thus affirmed. There is only one legitimate way in which any government policy would ever be enacted that might threaten the rights which the great men who wrote the Constitution deemed worthy and in need of explicit assertion therein; and that is by Congress passing a law.

What they neglected to properly anticipate and address, is the form of corruption which has taken root at all levels of government, in which policies are enacted and enforced as if they have the force of law, without going through the legislative process to enact them as legitimate laws.

To take that oversight on their part as an excuse to legitimate this corrupt usurpation of power to violate rights that they clearly intended to protect is intellectually dishonest.

 

[Pogo]

and I remind YOU that what the 1A says is, quote, "Congress shall make no Law..."

Now if you can show us where Congress made a Law, run with it.

That's a thoroughly dishonest argument. Clearly, in using that phrase to start the First Amendment, it was not the authors' intent to allow any other part of government to violate the rights thus affirmed. There is only one legitimate way in which any government policy would ever be enacted that might threaten the rights which the great men who wrote the Constitution deemed worthy and in need of explicit assertion therein; and that is by Congress passing a law.

What they neglected to properly anticipate and address, is the form of corruption which has taken root at all levels of government, in which policies are enacted and enforced as if they have the force of law, without going through the legislative process to enact them as legitimate laws.

To take that oversight on their part as an excuse to legitimate this corrupt usurpation of power to violate rights that they clearly intended to protect is intellectually dishonest.

Trapped ya, didn't I.

Next time think it through.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Are you a judge?

I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, and I know the good pastor will get off after hiring a lawyer.

No, you don't. I ask again. Are you a judge?

Are you a leftist derpwad that knows nothing about The Constitution? I bet damn good and well you are.

Both sheriff's offices in both counties will have to answer for this egregious violation of The Constitution.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Ya' just can't defeat the Christian church. The Soviet Union tried for decades.

And those on the left wrong have been trying to do so here in this country, for not quite as many decades, and without nearly as much power behind them. But they keep trying, and it's no surprise to see them exploiting this manufactured crisis for this purpose.

The best the left can do to compete is establish and feed their "liberal" churches.

The crisis is quite real, though; a lot of people are dying. But they do seem to delight in posting stories on these boards about the arrest of pastors. And I don't imagine we've seen the last such story.

Like I say, the church is not easy to oppose.

neh - it's not so much about arresting religious leaders - but rather holding those responsible for their actions instead of allowing them to cloak themselves in some sort of false special 'constituional' privledge regardless of the danger they are creating.

I seem to recall the same wags sitting on here denouncing those who refuse to follow mandatory evacuation orders in a coming hurricane. Here, they do a complete 180. Having it both ways: Priceless.

People have the right not to follow mandatory evacuation orders. They do not have to evacuate their homes on gov't edict. What they do not have the right to is dispatchers putting their lives at risk to save them. And that is fair.

People have the right not to follow mandatory evacuation orders.

Yep....that explains the word , "mandatory".

Dope.

Like i said.....what we see on this thread are a lot of confused and stupid people who really believe that they have the right to congregate in large groups irregardless of the consequences....irregardless of the scientific reports on the chinese virus and what it is capable of.

The only thing that might wake these folks up is if a bunch of them come down with the virus....then when they start dying I am sure they will see things differently.

Like these folks that got on cruise ships even after the virus had emerged....the media interviewed them as they were boarding and questioning them about their lack of concern for the virus or the potential hazard they were placing themselves in...i remember the response of one lady in particular....who said....'we wash our hands--we will be fine' now she is on one of the ships on the coast of florida begging to be allowed off the ship.

Florida does not want them....but under pressure from Trump the governor of florida will allow those on the ships from florida to disembark.

Personally, I think the ship should be towed about 20 miles off shore and torpedoed...you think I jest? perhaps but not that much.

Is this another one of those “please Father Government, please deprive me of rights granted by our founders” sort of threads?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Is standing around with a group of other people collectively with their thumbs up their asses a constitutional right?

Yes, stupid.... it is. Grow up.

Yes, it's in there.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.​

 

[Bob Blaylock]

I’m all in with you on the right of it but it’s not a requirement to exercise the right…

It is, however, a requirement that government uphold any such right, and allow those who are determined to exercise them to do so, even if such exercise might be unwise.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Like i said.....what we see on this thread are a lot of confused and stupid people who really believe that they have the right to congregate in large groups irregardless of the consequences....irregardless of the scientific reports on the chinese virus and what it is capable of.

LefTard Logic:
“People whom believe they have constitutional rights are confused and stupid...hating your rights...and reject your rights is not being confused and stupid”

 

[IM2]

I'm not a Jehovah's Witness, but the God I believe in says to treat others how I want to be treated. That's what the do unto others as they do unto you means. Jesus opposed injustice, this is why I oppose racists. A persons choice of religion doesn't make me better than them because I am a Christian. A persons works is what we look at, and when you have Christians pretending to be for life and for war at the same time, when they will argue for an unborn child to be born, then oppose things that keep them alive, I have a problem with people calling themselves Christian. Those here doing that have no right to condemn Newtonians their choice of religion. IMO, religion is the problem around here any way and Jesus opposed religions, he taught spirituality.