We Have the Right to Assemble and Freedom of Religion - Unlawful Arrest of Preacher

Looks like some of our government officials haven't read the Constitution.

---Pastor Rodney Howard-Browne was charged with misdemeanor counts of unlawful assembly---

Public safety, kid. Emergency measures and all that.

Country based on individual liberty, and freedom of religion and all that.

Granted, I think the idiot should have stayed home.... but the fact is, we are country based on freedom and liberty. Sorry, but you don't get to just make us your slaves because you want to. By all means, convince, argue, and encourage. But no, we are a free people. Period.

Sorry you don't get to knowingly endanger people.

Constitution my friend. Sorry, you don't get to just take away constitutional rights.

How many more will be endangered by a civil war? Make Corona look like a Utopia.

a national emergency -

catch the virus and die - the constitution is moot
Now you should understand the words of Benjamin Franklin " those who would give up an essential liberty for a temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben, being a pretty smart feller, would have told you to get back inside and shut up. It will be over soon.
Ben wasn't into controlling anyone like you are. Keep calm. Kneel down. He's going to come in your mouth any minute. That's how you shut up.

If this was 1942 you'd be defending hoarding as a freedom.
Oh is hoarding a constitutional right
Freedom to assemble is. Freedom of religion is. Right there, first amendment.

Gads democrats aren't worth as much as mold.

Is standing around with a group of other people collectively with their thumbs up their asses a constitutional right?
 
Looks like some of our government officials haven't read the Constitution.

---Pastor Rodney Howard-Browne was charged with misdemeanor counts of unlawful assembly---

Public safety, kid. Emergency measures and all that.

Country based on individual liberty, and freedom of religion and all that.

Granted, I think the idiot should have stayed home.... but the fact is, we are country based on freedom and liberty. Sorry, but you don't get to just make us your slaves because you want to. By all means, convince, argue, and encourage. But no, we are a free people. Period.

Sorry you don't get to knowingly endanger people.

Constitution my friend. Sorry, you don't get to just take away constitutional rights.

How many more will be endangered by a civil war? Make Corona look like a Utopia.

a national emergency -

catch the virus and die - the constitution is moot
Now you should understand the words of Benjamin Franklin " those who would give up an essential liberty for a temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben, being a pretty smart feller, would have told you to get back inside and shut up. It will be over soon.
Ben wasn't into controlling anyone like you are. Keep calm. Kneel down. He's going to come in your mouth any minute. That's how you shut up.

If this was 1942 you'd be defending hoarding as a freedom.
Oh is hoarding a constitutional right
Freedom to assemble is. Freedom of religion is. Right there, first amendment.

Gads democrats aren't worth as much as mold.

Mold? Penicillin comes from mold. Nothing but mindless drivel comes from Democraps.

Mold is worth lives. Democraps are worth as much as a Venezuelan bolívar.
 
Looks like some of our government officials haven't read the Constitution.

---Pastor Rodney Howard-Browne was charged with misdemeanor counts of unlawful assembly---

Public safety, kid. Emergency measures and all that.

Country based on individual liberty, and freedom of religion and all that.

Granted, I think the idiot should have stayed home.... but the fact is, we are country based on freedom and liberty. Sorry, but you don't get to just make us your slaves because you want to. By all means, convince, argue, and encourage. But no, we are a free people. Period.

Sorry you don't get to knowingly endanger people.

Constitution my friend. Sorry, you don't get to just take away constitutional rights.

How many more will be endangered by a civil war? Make Corona look like a Utopia.

a national emergency -

catch the virus and die - the constitution is moot
Now you should understand the words of Benjamin Franklin " those who would give up an essential liberty for a temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben, being a pretty smart feller, would have told you to get back inside and shut up. It will be over soon.
Ben wasn't into controlling anyone like you are. Keep calm. Kneel down. He's going to come in your mouth any minute. That's how you shut up.

If this was 1942 you'd be defending hoarding as a freedom.
Oh is hoarding a constitutional right
Freedom to assemble is. Freedom of religion is. Right there, first amendment.

Gads democrats aren't worth as much as mold.

Is standing around with a group of other people collectively with their thumbs up their asses a constitutional right?

Yes, stupid.... it is. Grow up.
 
Looks like some of our government officials haven't read the Constitution.

---Pastor Rodney Howard-Browne was charged with misdemeanor counts of unlawful assembly---

Public safety, kid. Emergency measures and all that.

Country based on individual liberty, and freedom of religion and all that.

Granted, I think the idiot should have stayed home.... but the fact is, we are country based on freedom and liberty. Sorry, but you don't get to just make us your slaves because you want to. By all means, convince, argue, and encourage. But no, we are a free people. Period.

Sorry you don't get to knowingly endanger people.

Constitution my friend. Sorry, you don't get to just take away constitutional rights.

How many more will be endangered by a civil war? Make Corona look like a Utopia.

a national emergency -

catch the virus and die - the constitution is moot
Now you should understand the words of Benjamin Franklin " those who would give up an essential liberty for a temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben, being a pretty smart feller, would have told you to get back inside and shut up. It will be over soon.
Ben wasn't into controlling anyone like you are. Keep calm. Kneel down. He's going to come in your mouth any minute. That's how you shut up.

If this was 1942 you'd be defending hoarding as a freedom.
Oh is hoarding a constitutional right
Freedom to assemble is. Freedom of religion is. Right there, first amendment.

Gads democrats aren't worth as much as mold.

Is standing around with a group of other people collectively with their thumbs up their asses a constitutional right?

Yes, stupid.... it is. Grow up.

I'm not the one who can't get it through my head the depth of what we're in. You'll figure it out.
 
Looks like some of our government officials haven't read the Constitution.

---Pastor Rodney Howard-Browne was charged with misdemeanor counts of unlawful assembly---

Public safety, kid. Emergency measures and all that.

Country based on individual liberty, and freedom of religion and all that.

Granted, I think the idiot should have stayed home.... but the fact is, we are country based on freedom and liberty. Sorry, but you don't get to just make us your slaves because you want to. By all means, convince, argue, and encourage. But no, we are a free people. Period.

Sorry you don't get to knowingly endanger people.

Constitution my friend. Sorry, you don't get to just take away constitutional rights.

How many more will be endangered by a civil war? Make Corona look like a Utopia.

a national emergency -

catch the virus and die - the constitution is moot
Now you should understand the words of Benjamin Franklin " those who would give up an essential liberty for a temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben, being a pretty smart feller, would have told you to get back inside and shut up. It will be over soon.
Ben wasn't into controlling anyone like you are. Keep calm. Kneel down. He's going to come in your mouth any minute. That's how you shut up.

If this was 1942 you'd be defending hoarding as a freedom.
Oh is hoarding a constitutional right
Freedom to assemble is. Freedom of religion is. Right there, first amendment.

Gads democrats aren't worth as much as mold.

Is standing around with a group of other people collectively with their thumbs up their asses a constitutional right?

Yes, stupid.... it is. Grow up.

I'm not the one who can't get it through my head the depth of what we're in. You'll figure it out.

No I get it. By all means convince those to stay home. If I was face to face with this guy, I'd be like "dude what the crap are doing?".

But there is a fundamental difference between a freedom based society, and a left-wing totalitarian dictatorship of oppression where people don't have rights.

That's what you need to get through your head. This illness will pass. It will. The destruction, and elimination of rights... that will destroy the entire country. You wipe out the constitution, and this virus will look like a Utopia compared to the oppression that government will inflict on the public.

Every cruel and evil brutal dictatorship, has endless justification for the destruction of liberty. Right now, you are on the side of this argument that Pol Pot, Mao, Stalin, Castro, and Hugo Chavez were on.

You should think about that.
 
We abide by and don’t hide behind the Constitution.
Right now I’m not all worked up about assembling. Maybe I should be but like the guns it’s not my priority. I do think it’s an overreaction but I don’t mind not being elbow to elbow. Maybe start with every other chair at casinos and work it from there
The problem is that people are contagious before they become symptomatic. So they go a few days later from the casino or church to the grocery store where they mix with people who are taking sensible precautions and may be themselves or have family members in their household who are at a higher risk of severe infection. No one has a right to deliberately put others at risk for the sake of their slots or Jesus fix. Grow up!
We are always at risk from contaigents. Communicable has in its root commune or community. We are a social spieces who gather together not for the common good but common good is a result, Government is interceding with that and quashing our individual choices and liberties.
You libbies Love to portray the false notion that one infected person who gets within 6 feet of 100 people will infect all 100
There is no evidence of that and in fact stats are conveniently not being kept regarding many issues of the non infected.

Bullshit!
Grow up, idiot.
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Cartoons dont decide my life for me
Too dumb to understand.
You're a piece of shit.
Watch out pussy. We might have to decide on a place to meet where you can further display your emotional name calling due to lack of facts and mental control.

Fuck you, dope. You know your troll ass never leaves the farm.
 
Ya' just can't defeat the Christian church. The Soviet Union tried for decades.

And those on the left wrong have been trying to do so here in this country, for not quite as many decades, and without nearly as much power behind them. But they keep trying, and it's no surprise to see them exploiting this manufactured crisis for this purpose.
The best the left can do to compete is establish and feed their "liberal" churches.

The crisis is quite real, though; a lot of people are dying. But they do seem to delight in posting stories on these boards about the arrest of pastors. And I don't imagine we've seen the last such story.

Like I say, the church is not easy to oppose.

neh - it's not so much about arresting religious leaders - but rather holding those responsible for their actions instead of allowing them to cloak themselves in some sort of false special 'constituional' privledge regardless of the danger they are creating.

I seem to recall the same wags sitting on here denouncing those who refuse to follow mandatory evacuation orders in a coming hurricane. Here, they do a complete 180. Having it both ways: Priceless.

People have the right not to follow mandatory evacuation orders. They do not have to evacuate their homes on gov't edict. What they do not have the right to is dispatchers putting their lives at risk to save them. And that is fair.
People have the right not to follow mandatory evacuation orders.

Yep....that explains the word , "mandatory".

:cuckoo: Dope.
 
Who says you won’t be alive. Very small chance you get this and very very small chance you are hospitalized and very very very small chance you die.
Very big chance economy is crushed and livelihoods of many destroyed
All you just provided was another typical melodramatic liberal emotive dramatic overreaction known as Lib 101

A lot of people don't realize what Economic Devastation and Poverty are all about. The Great Depression was a time of great deprivation, a lot of people die early when they can afford food or even a pot to urinate in.

No shit. You're not going to make it through a depression when you got a fucking pandemic to deal with at the same time. We need to resolve that first or the economy is never coming back.


I think the point is that we need to resolve this pandemic quickly. Otherwise, people will be starving on the streets and the economy might not recover for a hundred generations.
Derp....
100 generations is 2,500 years, dope.
 
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Ya' just can't defeat the Christian church. The Soviet Union tried for decades.

And those on the left wrong have been trying to do so here in this country, for not quite as many decades, and without nearly as much power behind them. But they keep trying, and it's no surprise to see them exploiting this manufactured crisis for this purpose.
The best the left can do to compete is establish and feed their "liberal" churches.

The crisis is quite real, though; a lot of people are dying. But they do seem to delight in posting stories on these boards about the arrest of pastors. And I don't imagine we've seen the last such story.

Like I say, the church is not easy to oppose.

neh - it's not so much about arresting religious leaders - but rather holding those responsible for their actions instead of allowing them to cloak themselves in some sort of false special 'constituional' privledge regardless of the danger they are creating.

I seem to recall the same wags sitting on here denouncing those who refuse to follow mandatory evacuation orders in a coming hurricane. Here, they do a complete 180. Having it both ways: Priceless.

People have the right not to follow mandatory evacuation orders. They do not have to evacuate their homes on gov't edict. What they do not have the right to is dispatchers putting their lives at risk to save them. And that is fair.
People have the right not to follow mandatory evacuation orders.

Yep....that explains the word , "mandatory".

:cuckoo: Dope.

Like i said.....what we see on this thread are a lot of confused and stupid people who really believe that they have the right to congregate in large groups irregardless of the consequences....irregardless of the scientific reports on the chinese virus and what it is capable of.

The only thing that might wake these folks up is if a bunch of them come down with the virus....then when they start dying I am sure they will see things differently.

Like these folks that got on cruise ships even after the virus had emerged....the media interviewed them as they were boarding and questioning them about their lack of concern for the virus or the potential hazard they were placing themselves in...i remember the response of one lady in particular....who said....'we wash our hands--we will be fine' now she is on one of the ships on the coast of florida begging to be allowed off the ship.

Florida does not want them....but under pressure from Trump the governor of florida will allow those on the ships from florida to disembark.

Personally, I think the ship should be towed about 20 miles off shore and torpedoed...you think I jest? perhaps but not that much.
 
I must have missed the universal proclamation and agreement that eons old contaigent health issues take precedent over everything else in life and vacate freedoms

being alive to enjoy those freedoms comes first
Who says you won’t be alive. Very small chance you get this and very very small chance you are hospitalized and very very very small chance you die.
Very big chance economy is crushed and livelihoods of many destroyed
All you just provided was another typical melodramatic liberal emotive dramatic overreaction known as Lib 101

my husband's cousin's husband has a cleaning & powerwashing business. he's been hired by NYS to clean & sterilize box trucks that will be converted into freezers for the dead bodies that are starting to pile up
Makes a neato urban legend
 
Looks like some of our government officials haven't read the Constitution.

---Pastor Rodney Howard-Browne was charged with misdemeanor counts of unlawful assembly---

Public safety, kid. Emergency measures and all that.

Country based on individual liberty, and freedom of religion and all that.

Granted, I think the idiot should have stayed home.... but the fact is, we are country based on freedom and liberty. Sorry, but you don't get to just make us your slaves because you want to. By all means, convince, argue, and encourage. But no, we are a free people. Period.

Sorry you don't get to knowingly endanger people.

Constitution my friend. Sorry, you don't get to just take away constitutional rights.

How many more will be endangered by a civil war? Make Corona look like a Utopia.

a national emergency -

catch the virus and die - the constitution is moot
Now you should understand the words of Benjamin Franklin " those who would give up an essential liberty for a temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Ben, being a pretty smart feller, would have told you to get back inside and shut up. It will be over soon.
Ben wasn't into controlling anyone like you are. Keep calm. Kneel down. He's going to come in your mouth any minute. That's how you shut up.

If this was 1942 you'd be defending hoarding as a freedom.
Oh is hoarding a constitutional right
Freedom to assemble is. Freedom of religion is. Right there, first amendment.

Gads democrats aren't worth as much as mold.

Is standing around with a group of other people collectively with their thumbs up their asses a constitutional right?

Yes, stupid.... it is. Grow up.

I'm not the one who can't get it through my head the depth of what we're in. You'll figure it out.

No I get it. By all means convince those to stay home. If I was face to face with this guy, I'd be like "dude what the crap are doing?".

But there is a fundamental difference between a freedom based society, and a left-wing totalitarian dictatorship of oppression where people don't have rights.

That's what you need to get through your head. This illness will pass. It will. The destruction, and elimination of rights... that will destroy the entire country. You wipe out the constitution, and this virus will look like a Utopia compared to the oppression that government will inflict on the public.

Every cruel and evil brutal dictatorship, has endless justification for the destruction of liberty. Right now, you are on the side of this argument that Pol Pot, Mao, Stalin, Castro, and Hugo Chavez were on.

You should think about that.
These Emergency Powers only last 90 days.
 
Who says you won’t be alive. Very small chance you get this and very very small chance you are hospitalized and very very very small chance you die.
Very big chance economy is crushed and livelihoods of many destroyed
All you just provided was another typical melodramatic liberal emotive dramatic overreaction known as Lib 101

A lot of people don't realize what Economic Devastation and Poverty are all about. The Great Depression was a time of great deprivation, a lot of people die early when they can afford food or even a pot to urinate in.
They have no idea, and will claim no responsibility for, the economic devastation for about 12 months after doors are allowed to be open again. Create a sure fire disaster over a health wannabe worst case scenario.
America really is no more
 
I must have missed the universal proclamation and agreement that eons old contaigent health issues take precedent over everything else in life and vacate freedoms

being alive to enjoy those freedoms comes first
Who says you won’t be alive. Very small chance you get this and very very small chance you are hospitalized and very very very small chance you die.
Very big chance economy is crushed and livelihoods of many destroyed
All you just provided was another typical melodramatic liberal emotive dramatic overreaction known as Lib 101

my husband's cousin's husband has a cleaning & powerwashing business. he's been hired by NYS to clean & sterilize box trucks that will be converted into freezers for the dead bodies that are starting to pile up
Makes a neato urban legend



If You Die Poor or Alone in New York City, You’ll Be Buried by Prisoners in a Mass Grave
 
Ya' just can't defeat the Christian church. The Soviet Union tried for decades.

And those on the left wrong have been trying to do so here in this country, for not quite as many decades, and without nearly as much power behind them. But they keep trying, and it's no surprise to see them exploiting this manufactured crisis for this purpose.
The best the left can do to compete is establish and feed their "liberal" churches.

The crisis is quite real, though; a lot of people are dying. But they do seem to delight in posting stories on these boards about the arrest of pastors. And I don't imagine we've seen the last such story.

Like I say, the church is not easy to oppose.

neh - it's not so much about arresting religious leaders - but rather holding those responsible for their actions instead of allowing them to cloak themselves in some sort of false special 'constituional' privledge regardless of the danger they are creating.

I seem to recall the same wags sitting on here denouncing those who refuse to follow mandatory evacuation orders in a coming hurricane. Here, they do a complete 180. Having it both ways: Priceless.

People have the right not to follow mandatory evacuation orders. They do not have to evacuate their homes on gov't edict. What they do not have the right to is dispatchers putting their lives at risk to save them. And that is fair.
People have the right not to follow mandatory evacuation orders.

Yep....that explains the word , "mandatory".

:cuckoo: Dope.

Like i said.....what we see on this thread are a lot of confused and stupid people who really believe that they have the right to congregate in large groups irregardless of the consequences....irregardless of the scientific reports on the chinese virus and what it is capable of.

The only thing that might wake these folks up is if a bunch of them come down with the virus....then when they start dying I am sure they will see things differently.

Like these folks that got on cruise ships even after the virus had emerged....the media interviewed them as they were boarding and questioning them about their lack of concern for the virus or the potential hazard they were placing themselves in...i remember the response of one lady in particular....who said....'we wash our hands--we will be fine' now she is on one of the ships on the coast of florida begging to be allowed off the ship.

Florida does not want them....but under pressure from Trump the governor of florida will allow those on the ships from florida to disembark.

Personally, I think the ship should be towed about 20 miles off shore and torpedoed...you think I jest? perhaps but not that much.

Usually I'm like...:dunno:... Darwin's waiting room. Whadya gonna do?

But now...These dopes are a real threat to potentially millions of our most vulnerable.
Time to invoke stand your ground and start issuing double taps according to their own rules.
 
I must have missed the universal proclamation and agreement that eons old contaigent health issues take precedent over everything else in life and vacate freedoms

being alive to enjoy those freedoms comes first
Who says you won’t be alive. Very small chance you get this and very very small chance you are hospitalized and very very very small chance you die.
Very big chance economy is crushed and livelihoods of many destroyed
All you just provided was another typical melodramatic liberal emotive dramatic overreaction known as Lib 101

my husband's cousin's husband has a cleaning & powerwashing business. he's been hired by NYS to clean & sterilize box trucks that will be converted into freezers for the dead bodies that are starting to pile up
Makes a neato urban legend


If You Die Poor or Alone in New York City, You’ll Be Buried by Prisoners in a Mass Grave
I don’t do much with ifs. Should an if become an is, then it’s action time
 
Who says you won’t be alive. Very small chance you get this and very very small chance you are hospitalized and very very very small chance you die.
Very big chance economy is crushed and livelihoods of many destroyed
All you just provided was another typical melodramatic liberal emotive dramatic overreaction known as Lib 101

A lot of people don't realize what Economic Devastation and Poverty are all about. The Great Depression was a time of great deprivation, a lot of people die early when they can afford food or even a pot to urinate in.
They have no idea, and will claim no responsibility for, the economic devastation for about 12 months after doors are allowed to be open again. Create a sure fire disaster over a health wannabe worst case scenario.
America really is no more


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SMH​
 
I said the church deliberately provoked a conflict…
No, it was government that provoked this fight, by illegally using a manufactured crisis as an excuse to blatantly violate the Constitution.
The government set a reasonable and lawful restriction, and the church deliberately violated it for their own sense of self-righteousness and desire to feel like a "persecuted minority". I'm neither impressed nor sympathetic.
Whether you believe that government's actions in this case were legal or reasonable or not, the fact remains that it was government, and not this church, that provoked this fight. It was government that tried to shut down this church, and it is government which arrested this pastor for attempting to exercise the rights which the First Amendment explicitly protects, and which the First Amendment explicitly forbids government from violating.

There is nothing anywhere in the Constitution, that even hints at any legitimate power on the part of any portion of government, to cook up a fake crisis such as this, and then use that fake crisis as an excuse to trash the Constitution or any part of it. There is no reason to suppose that the great men who wrote the Constitution would have ever thought of allowing any such thing; indeed, they were certainly aware of the possibility of the sort of abuses we are now seeing, and would have been quite wary of this possibility. It is too bad they didn't think to include provisions in the Constitution specifically calling for severe criminal charges and severe punishments for any corrupt public servant who had any willing part in any such abuses. Perhaps that's what Jefferson was thinking of when he wrote about the need of the Tree of Liberty to be watered regularly.


Once government seizes any power, it does not easily give it up again.
Now, that IS true, and I would not for the world discourage eternal vigilance on this subject or this debate on the topic. For all that I very much disagree with what this church did and with the people defending them, I would be deeply troubled if no one was debating this at all and everyone was just sanguinely accepting the pastor's arrest with no discussion at all.
And yet, you're being awfully careless and casual in defending this instance of government seizing power that no rational person would ever accept as legitimate for them to seize.

If we let government get away with this,then what is to stop them from seizing even more power, either based on this “crisis”, or on some new “crisis” also manufactured for this purpose?

Tyrants really love ignorant, cowardly, compliant sheep such as yourself.
 
I must have missed the universal proclamation and agreement that eons old contaigent health issues take precedent over everything else in life and vacate freedoms

being alive to enjoy those freedoms comes first
Who says you won’t be alive. Very small chance you get this and very very small chance you are hospitalized and very very very small chance you die.
Very big chance economy is crushed and livelihoods of many destroyed
All you just provided was another typical melodramatic liberal emotive dramatic overreaction known as Lib 101

my husband's cousin's husband has a cleaning & powerwashing business. he's been hired by NYS to clean & sterilize box trucks that will be converted into freezers for the dead bodies that are starting to pile up
Makes a neato urban legend


If You Die Poor or Alone in New York City, You’ll Be Buried by Prisoners in a Mass Grave
I don’t do much with ifs. Should an if become an is, then it’s action time

Would make a cute epitaph for you.
 

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