Way to go Obama, Ramadi falls to ISIS!

NY, Siete

Apparently the Democrats are in trouble in 2016, if that's what they think....

Would a liberal source do?

ISIS Threat Fear of Terror Attack Soars to 9 11 High NBC News WSJ Poll Finds - NBC News
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Sixty-One percent say military action against ISIS is in nation’s interest

According to the poll, 61 percent of American voters believe that the United States taking military action against ISIS is in United States’ interest, versus 13 percent who don’t. (Another 24 percent said they don’t know enough to have an opinion.)
 
NY, Siete

Apparently the Democrats are in trouble in 2016, if that's what they think....

Would a liberal source do?

ISIS Threat Fear of Terror Attack Soars to 9 11 High NBC News WSJ Poll Finds - NBC News
911_poll3_732b7872719a2c0f62435850b633c4dc.nbcnews-ux-320-240.jpg


Sixty-One percent say military action against ISIS is in nation’s interest

According to the poll, 61 percent of American voters believe that the United States taking military action against ISIS is in United States’ interest, versus 13 percent who don’t. (Another 24 percent said they don’t know enough to have an opinion.)

People got scared into an Iraq disaster 12 years ago.
 
Apparently, most Americans want ISIS taken out...

Think the Democrats can win with 39% of the vote?:badgrin:
 
NY, Siete

Apparently the Democrats are in trouble in 2016, if that's what they think....

Would a liberal source do?

ISIS Threat Fear of Terror Attack Soars to 9 11 High NBC News WSJ Poll Finds - NBC News
911_poll3_732b7872719a2c0f62435850b633c4dc.nbcnews-ux-320-240.jpg


Sixty-One percent say military action against ISIS is in nation’s interest

According to the poll, 61 percent of American voters believe that the United States taking military action against ISIS is in United States’ interest, versus 13 percent who don’t. (Another 24 percent said they don’t know enough to have an opinion.)

Vietnam had 70+% support at the outset. Most military disasters are plunged into with the support of the people.
 
NY, Siete

Apparently the Democrats are in trouble in 2016, if that's what they think....

Would a liberal source do?

ISIS Threat Fear of Terror Attack Soars to 9 11 High NBC News WSJ Poll Finds - NBC News
911_poll3_732b7872719a2c0f62435850b633c4dc.nbcnews-ux-320-240.jpg


Sixty-One percent say military action against ISIS is in nation’s interest

According to the poll, 61 percent of American voters believe that the United States taking military action against ISIS is in United States’ interest, versus 13 percent who don’t. (Another 24 percent said they don’t know enough to have an opinion.)

Vietnam had 70+% support at the outset. Most military disasters are plunged into with the support of the people.

Like WWI and WWII?
 
More ISIS attacks in the country will be spun with bring all troops home and a build up of the Navy and the Air Force as a shield.
 
Way to go Obama, Ramadi falls to ISIS!

That would be Bush who overthrew Saddam. We left that country to care for themselves, they asked us to leave, remember?

Nope, Most Iraqi's wanted us to stay. We left because we could not get an immunity deal from the Iraqi's for US troops from the Iraqi justice system. But that was no reason to leave and abandon the country. Obama has US troops back in the country to the tune of 4,500, but its not enough as this clearly shows.

Saddam had to be removed just like Hitler had to be removed. No argument there. Only a fool would endorse Saddam after what he did to Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Israel and Iran!

Only a fool would have supported Saddam after he executed members of the Iraqi Parliament when he took power in 1979. Unlike Hitler in the 1930's, Saddam was contained, sanctioned, and bombed back to the stone age.
 
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Actually, if you look at the threat level as perceived by the American people, ISIS is being compared with 9/11 (where over 3,000 Americans died)..... Face it, the American people consider the threat to be real....

And here's some more info for you from a key Democrat demographic...
Young Guns American Youth Want More U.S. Interventionism Harvard Political Review
It seems that the anti-interventionist attitude of young Americans has faded, according to the results of the Harvard Public Opinion Project’s spring 2015 survey. Nearly 60 percent of respondents disapprove of the Obama administration’s management of the rise of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), while, strikingly, almost 60 percent of respondents support sending ground troops to fight ISIS.
 
Anyone who thinks Saddam is an equivalent comparison to Hitler is an uneducated person.

Americans do not think ISIS as a threat level is cause to send an army to Iraq.

The neo-cons have lost this argument.
 
Obiwan has not been completely honest. Nothing new.

The article continues, "However, we should be wary of reading the results as a complete repudiation of the Obama administration’s foreign policy and a vindication of George W. Bush’s policies. Bush’s preemptive invasion of Iraq is not exactly hailed as a model of strategic decision-making today, as only 23 percent of young Americans support preemptive attacks on potentially hostile nations. ISIS may represent a unique case seen as deserving of all military options, including ground troops. After all, the chilling videos of American hostages being brutally murdered by ISIS troops have sparked national outrage and led some leaders such as John McCain to call for the deployment of U.S. ground troops to combat ISIS."

The 'young guns' want to see much more before the US goes further into war in the ME.

The neo-cons can stand down.
 
RAMADI has just fallen to ISIS with the take over of the central government Headquarters. RAMADI is the provincial capital of Al Anbar province. It is the fourth to be taken by ISIS since 2014, although ISIS lost control of Baquba and Tikrit in 2015. So now ISIS controls two provincial capitals in Iraq, Mosul and RAMADI. Ramadi is 60 miles from Baghdad. Hundreds of US troops are stationed at Al Assad Airbase within 20 miles of Ramadi.


IS group seizes government compound in Iraq's Ramadi
BAGHDAD (AP) — Islamic State militants on Friday captured the main government compound in Ramadi, the capital of Iraq's western Anbar province, after fierce clashes with security forces.

Ramadi's Mayor Dalaf al-Kubaisi says the militants raised the black flag of the IS group over the area after troops were forced to withdraw from the compound, which houses most of the city's government offices.

He said the IS militants, who also seized other parts of the city, are now attacking the Anbar Operation Command, the military headquarters for the province.

Dalaf said at least 10 policemen were killed in the fighting and dozens of other security forces were wounded. He said IS militants killed several captured policemen and army officers in the city, where most civilians have fled.

U.S. troops saw some of the heaviest fighting of the eight-year Iraq intervention in Anbar, and Ramadi was a major insurgent stronghold. The IS group captured the nearby city of Fallujah and parts of Ramadi in January 2014, months before its main sweep across northern and western Iraq.

The IS assault on the Ramadi government compound began with three nearly simultaneous suicide car bombings. Two Humvees previously seized from the Iraqi army were used in Friday's attack, al-Kubaisi said.

Dozens of families were forced to flee their homes in the area, said Athal al-Fahdawi, an Anbar councilman.

The head of Anbar's provincial council, Sabah Karhout, appealed to the central government in Baghdad to send reinforcements and urged the U.S.-led coalition to increase airstrikes against the militants in Ramadi.

"The city is undergoing vicious attack by Daesh and we are in dire need of any kind of assistance," Karhout said, using the Arabic acronym for the IS group.

Obama's light military footprint has helped this to happen. There needs to be a far more aggressive Air Campaign and larger number of US and coalition troops on the ground. Intervention weakly done produces mixed results at best.


Obama pretty much owns ISIS. He turned Libya into a north African weapons bazaar by decapitating the government without making any attempt at replacing it, or replacing the civil service which ran the country. Anyone who has studied the colonial history of the 19th and 20th centuries will recognize this faux pas as being peculiar to Portugese colonialism. Can anyone say Angola...East Timor?

At least Bush made an attempt to set up a functioning civil service system in Iraq before he left office..

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RW's want American taxpayers to pay for everything.

Way to go Obama, save my money, let em fight their own damn battles.
Yet it is the democraps always wanting to raise taxes to give to people who wont do for themselves ( not talking about the ones who truly need it.)
 
Oh, the far right, who created the horrible aftermath of the Iraqi War, want a second chance to get it wrong again.

Won't happen.
 

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