Wasting Money On Education???

[PoliticalChic]

At the heart of government policies are two very different views for the Left or the Right.

For the Left, money, wealth and material equality

For the Right, consideration of values, morality and ethics.


Both sides hope for happiness and productivity in society, but how to get there is based on those two, very different, ways of looking at things. Both see education as the way, one side promises success based on directing more money there. Let’s see how that plays out.




1.The promise was that more money for schools would be the answer for inequality, and providing all Americans with the opportunity our Founders promised. The G.I.Bill seemed to indicate that: it helped build a middle class.

Mandatory primary and secondary schooling was clearly the sort of thing that advanced a society. The calculation became ‘more money produces a better result of schooling, hence a happier and more productive society. And will take of that ‘inequality.’

Money= schooling=success. What could be wrong????




2. Then the other shoe dropped. “…an ambitious government study conducted by sociologist James Coleman had come to a conclusion so ‘seismic- that President Johnson’s administration considered not releasing it, and did release it on the Friday of the Fourth of July weekend….

The conclusion: ‘Schools are remarkably similar in the way they relate to the achievement of their pupils when the socioeconomic background of the students is taken into consideration.’” George Will, “The Conservative Sensibility, “ p. 315-316

“…a student's family background, coupled with a diverse socioeconomic mix in the classroom, appeared to be the biggest determinant of how well a child would learn. No one had said this before, backing it up with data. “ Coleman Report set the standard for the study of public education




3. WHAT???? “…“…a student's family background, coupled with a diverse socioeconomic mix in the classroom, appeared to be the biggest determinant of how well a child would learn.”

Family, family structure, and responsibility is more important than money or Leftist government policy????



How could that be????

After Franklin Roosevelt and then Lyndon Johnson built government on entitlements and give-away???

And LBJ’s Great Society destroyed the nuclear family???????

Both of them followed the dictates of Marx, Engels, and Trotsky, to destroy the family.



Now what?????

 

[rightwinger]

Students today don’t have the values or give the effort they used to

They do little original research, are incapable of crafting original thoughts
They substitute cut and paste for their own opinions

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Students today don’t have the values or give the effort they used to

They do little original research, are incapable of crafting original thoughts
They substitute cut and paste for their own opinions

Yup. You people have done a great job.

 

[Third Party]

At the heart of government policies are two very different views for the Left or the Right.

For the Left, money, wealth and material equality

For the Right, consideration of values, morality and ethics.


Both sides hope for happiness and productivity in society, but how to get there is based on those two, very different, ways of looking at things. Both see education as the way, one side promises success based on directing more money there. Let’s see how that plays out.




1.The promise was that more money for schools would be the answer for inequality, and providing all Americans with the opportunity our Founders promised. The G.I.Bill seemed to indicate that: it helped build a middle class.

Mandatory primary and secondary schooling was clearly the sort of thing that advanced a society. The calculation became ‘more money produces a better result of schooling, hence a happier and more productive society. And will take of that ‘inequality.’

Money= schooling=success. What could be wrong????




2. Then the other shoe dropped. “…an ambitious government study conducted by sociologist James Coleman had come to a conclusion so ‘seismic- that President Johnson’s administration considered not releasing it, and did release it on the Friday of the Fourth of July weekend….

The conclusion: ‘Schools are remarkably similar in the way they relate to the achievement of their pupils when the socioeconomic background of the students is taken into consideration.’” George Will, “The Conservative Sensibility, “ p. 315-316

“…a student's family background, coupled with a diverse socioeconomic mix in the classroom, appeared to be the biggest determinant of how well a child would learn. No one had said this before, backing it up with data. “ Coleman Report set the standard for the study of public education




3. WHAT???? “…“…a student's family background, coupled with a diverse socioeconomic mix in the classroom, appeared to be the biggest determinant of how well a child would learn.”

Family, family structure, and responsibility is more important than money or Leftist government policy????



How could that be????

After Franklin Roosevelt and then Lyndon Johnson built government on entitlements and give-away???

And LBJ’s Great Society destroyed the nuclear family???????

Both of them followed the dictates of Marx, Engels, and Trotsky, to destroy the family.



Now what?????

Stop welfare

 

[fncceo]

Education is never a waste

 

[Third Party]

Education is never a waste

Part of the NBA honor roll.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Republicans used to run on ending the Department of Education. Dunno what happened.

As far as left and right, does that really mean anything anymore?

 

[rightwinger]

Conservatives are threatened by education
They claim educated people are part of the elite that look down on them

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Conservatives are threatened by education
They claim educated people are part of the elite that look down on them

They are more threatened by the uneducated. Sheep watch the ground.

 

[Pete7469]

Last night I destroyed a "history professor" that claimed among other asinine shit that the Nazi party was "right wing" and killed more people than Stalin or Mao.

Whomever gave that utter ninny their credentials should be in prison for malpractice.


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[Billy_Kinetta]

Last night I destroyed a "history professor" that claimed among other asinine shit that the Nazi party was "right wing" and killed more people than Stalin or Mao.

Whomever gave that utter ninny their credentials should be in prison for malpractice.


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A friend has a gay stepson who has a degree in history. The man is an idiot. Knows little of actual history, and what he does know is tainted with nonsense. Thank Gawd he's not teaching, but is employed as an office monkey.

 

[rightwinger]

Conservatives always think education is a waste of money

It was wasted on them

 

[PoliticalChic]

Education is never a waste

I'm gonna pretend that you are serious, as many probably believe that.....

And if so:

You couldn't be more wrong.
You could attempt to be, but you wouldn't succeed.



And see if this helps:


1. More details are emerging about Humam al-Balawi, the man who blew up seven intelligence agents in Afghanistan. By education and professional status, the Jordanian doctor is typical of recent suicidal attackers. The man accused of trying to blow up a plane on Christmas Day is a Nigerian graduate of the University of London. In the Fort Hood shootings, a Palestinian-American psychiatrist in the U.S. Army has been charged.
Humam al-Balawi was said to be carrying information about Ayman al-Zawahiri, Osama bin Laden's number two, himself a surgeon who was born to a prominent Egyptian family.
Mohamed Atta of 9/11, who was an Egyptian urban planner who had been working in Germany - these are not the wretched of the earth. What essentially is the grievance that draws them to al-Qaida?
Groups Recruiting Well-Educated Terrorists : NPR

2. A recent study at Princeton University by Alan Krueger and Jitka Maleckova, called "Education, Poverty, Political Violence and Terrorism: Is There a Causal Connection?" argues this point. One piece of the Krueger-Maleckova evidence involves 129 members of Hezbollah who died in action, mostly against Israel, from 1982 to 1994. Hezbollah is now designated by the U.S. as a terrorist organization. Biographical information from the Hezbollah newspaper al-Ahd indicates that the fighters who died were, on average, more educated and less impoverished than the Lebanese population of comparable age and regional origin….Moreover, the Palestinians' adherence to the view that the mass murder of civilians was not terrorism was independent of education and higher among those working than unemployed. Hence, support for terrorism was not reduced by increases in education and income….a study by Charles Russell and Bowman Miller (reprinted in the 1983 book Perspectives on Terrorism) considered 18 revolutionary groups, including the Japanese Red Army, Germany's Baader-Meinhof Gang, and Italy's Red Brigades. The authors found that "the vast majority of those individuals involved in terrorist activities as cadres or leaders is quite well-educated. In fact, approximately two-thirds of those identified terrorists are persons with some university training, [and] well over two-thirds of these individuals came from the middle or upper classes in their respective nations or areas." BW Online | June 10, 2002 | The Myth That Poverty Breeds Terrorism
http://www.krueger.princeton.edu/terrorism2.pdf

3. …men who belonged to violent Islamist groups active over the past few decades (some in jail, some not). Had those groups reflected the working-age populations of their countries, engineers would have made up about 3.5 percent of the membership. Instead, nearly 20 percent of the militants had engineering degrees. When Gambetta and Hertog looked at only the militants whose education was known for certain to have gone beyond high school, close to half (44 percent) had trained in engineering.
Today's Highly Educated Terrorists | The National Interest Blog

Today's Highly Educated Terrorists

4. Pol Pot, was the leader of the Cambodian communist movement known as the Khmer Rouge[3] and was Prime Minister of Democratic Kampuchea from 1976–1979. Pol Pot's leadership, in which he attempted to "cleanse" the country, resulted in the deaths of an estimated 1.7–2.5 million people…. he qualified for a scholarship that allowed for technical study in France. He studied radio electronics at the EFR in Paris from 1949 to 1953 Pol Pot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

5. Khmer Rouge leader Khieu Samphan, who had studied in Paris, wrote in his doctoral dissertation that the Cambodian economy and social structure would be renewed by tapping “the dormant energy of the peasant mass” against the cities. “Kissinger, “The White House Years,” p. 518.

6. Ernesto "Che" Guevara "the man was a mass killer. Hundreds were reportedly executed on his watch" Why Do people love a mass murder like Che? // Current

Ernesto Guevara de la Serna (1928-1967) was an Argentine physician... Biography of Ernesto Che Guevara, Revolutionary Leader


As a young boy growing up, he had a passion for education, literature and philosophy. Mao Zedong
"he worked as a doctor. Che Guevara : Biography

7. Lenin was born Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, April 22, 1870….In 1891 he passed the law examinations at the University of St. Petersburg as an external student, scoring first in his class. He practiced law briefly in Samara before devoting himself to the revolutionary movement. Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin), 1870-1924

8. Bashar al-Assad is the President of the Syrian Arab Republic, Regional Secretary of the Ba'ath Party, and the son of former President Hafez al-Assad. Al-Assad is a controversial figure both in Syria and Internationally… for his disregard for human rights, economic lapses, sponsorship of terrorism, and corruption. Bashar studied ophthalmology at Damascus University 1988 and arrived in London in 1992 to continue his studies. Bashar al-Assad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



9. Mao was a rebellious teen-ager. His father wanted him to be a farmer; Mao wanted more education beyond the village grammar school. Mao left home at age 13 to attend an advanced school in a nearby district and in 1911 arrived in Changsha, the provincial capital, to attend secondary school…. He tried law enforcement, business and history before settling on education, graduating from a teachers' training school in 1918. He departed for Beijing to attend the university. CNN In-Depth Specials - Visions of China - Profiles: Mao Tse-tung



10.Al Qaeda leader Ayman al Zawahiri received his master's degree in surgery from Cairo University.... http://www.biography.com/people/ayman-al-zawahiri-241182


11. Nidal Hasan, Abdulmutallab and Humam al-Balawi are jihadists who were educated and came from privileged middle- and upper-class backgrounds. Hasan was an American-trained U. S. Army doctor, Abdulmutallab was a London engineering student and the son of a wealthy Nigerian banker, and double-agent Dr. Humam al-Balawi was a member of the Jordanian professional class. The Educated Muslim Terrorist


12. "One piece of the Krueger-Maleckova evidence involves 129 members of Hezbollah who died in action, mostly against Israel, from 1982 to 1994. Hezbollah is now designated by the U.S. as a terrorist organization. Biographical information from the Hezbollah newspaper al-Ahd indicates that the fighters who died were, on average, more educated and less impoverished than the Lebanese population of comparable age and regional origin." Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

and......" a study by Charles Russell and Bowman Miller (reprinted in the 1983 book Perspectives on Terrorism) considered 18 revolutionary groups, including the Japanese Red Army, Germany's Baader-Meinhof Gang, and Italy's Red Brigades. The authors found that "the vast majority of those individuals involved in terrorist activities as cadres or leaders is quite well-educated. In fact, approximately two-thirds of those identified terrorists are persons with some university training, [and] well over two-thirds of these individuals came from the middle or upper classes in their respective nations or areas."Ibid.


13. Fidel Castro was a talented student, and decided to pursue a career in law, entering the University of Havana Law School in 1945. After graduating law school, he opened a law office that primarily catered for poor Cubans, although it proved a financial failure.

Fidel Castro Biography - life, family, parents, story, history, school, mother, young, son, old, information, born


Highly educated Leftists, smart guys all....



So, I'm wondering if our friends on the Left would like to claim any of these highly educated folks as their heroes?

You know, unlike the "amiable dunce, Ronald Reagan"...the guy who won the Cold War.
Could be the Left is wrong about what constitutes 'smart,' huh?



“The civilized people in the world, the ones who hide behind culture and art and politics…and even the law, they’re the ones to watch out for. They’ve got that perfect disguise goin’ for them, you know? But they’re the most vicious. They’re the most dangerous people on earth.”
Michael Connelly, "The Last Coyote," p.262




"Jihadi John", the masked Islamic State militant linked to the beheading of Western hostages, was named on Thursday as Kuwaiti-born London computer programmer Mohammed Emwazi by experts and the media.

The suspect is from a middle class family and earned a degree in computer programming before travelling to Syria around 2012, according to the report.

"Jihadi John", named after Beatle John Lennon due to his British accent, is believed to be responsible for the murders of US journalists James Foley and Steven Sotloff, British aid workers David Haines and Allan Henning and American aid worker Abdul-Rahman Kassig. IS executioner 'Jihadi John' named as London graduate | Daily Mail Online


"Radovan Karadzic, the former Bosnian Serb leader, was found guilty of genocide and crimes against humanity during the 1992-95 Bosnian war.

The atrocities during the war have been described as the worst crimes committed in Europe since World War Two.

One count of genocide related to the massacre of more than 7,500 Muslim men and boys in the Srebrenica enclave in July 1995...

§ 1968: Publishes collection of poetry

§ 1971: Graduates in medicine

§ 1983: Becomes team psychologist for Red Star Belgrade football club

§ 1990: Becomes president of Serbian Democratic Party

Profile: Radovan Karadzic

 

[PoliticalChic]

Republicans uses to run on ending the Department of Education. Dunno what happened.

As far as left and right, does that really mean anything anymore?

I believe subsequent posts in this thread will answer that question.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Last night I destroyed a "history professor" that claimed among other asinine shit that the Nazi party was "right wing" and killed more people than Stalin or Mao.

Whomever gave that utter ninny their credentials should be in prison for malpractice.


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Too many of 'em......shut the system down.

 

[PoliticalChic]

4.Sooo….pumping In money is not the solution??? But….but….that’s what Progressivism is all about. Everything is about materialism,….more properly called Marxism.



Gee….the whole ‘racism’ rubric that the Democrat Party trades on, is totally bogus: no racism, no oppression, no KKK or white nationalism….it’s simply what we conservatives have always said: it’s values, attitudes and responsibility.



The American Enterprise Institute’s Nicholas Eberstadt, in “The Great Society at Fifty: The Triumph and the Tragedy, speaks of “the earthquake that shook family structure in the era of expansive anti-poverty policies” has seen out-of-wedlock births increase from 7.7 percent in 1965 to more than 40 percent in 2012, including 72 percent of black babies.

Eberstadt asks: Is it “simply a coincidence” that male flight from work and family breakdown have coincided with Great Society policies, and that dependence on government is more widespread and perhaps more habitual than ever?

From Roosevelt on, Democrat Marxists, or at least ‘materialists,’ have succeeded in subverting the character of America to one that is comfortable with dependency.



And the idea that more money spent on education will solve the problem….is simply wishful thinking.

 

[PoliticalChic]

5. If government is not the solution to momentous problems such as the education gap between blacks and whites, shouldn’t the following be considered in the solution?
…the constant drumbeat by the Left against tradition, morality and the family and male flight from work and family breakdown have coincided with Great Society policies, and that dependence on government is more widespread and perhaps more habitual than ever?



The aim of the Left is eminently clear:
Abolition [Aufhebung] of the family! Even the most radical flare up at this infamous proposal of the Communists. On what foundation is the present family, the bourgeois family, based? On capital, on private gain. In its completely developed form, this family exists only among the bourgeoisie."
Marx and Engels, Communist Manifesto, ch 2...
Communist Manifesto (Chapter 2)


After losing power, Leon Trotsky would claim that the reason that communism had not been successful was that Stalin had not been ruthless enough in his efforts to eliminate the family. See Trotsky's The Revolution Betrayed, trans. Max Eastman, New York, 1965, pp. 145ff.
The Abolition of the Family



"We can see that all elements of the socialist ideal--the abolition of private property, family, hierarchies; the hostility toward religion--could be regarded as a manifestation of one basic principle: the suppression of individuality.... All this is inspired by one principle--the destruction of individuality or, at least, its suppression to the point where it would cease to be a social force. " Igor Shafarevich
The Socialist Phenomenon
The Socialist Phenomenon by Igor Shafarevich



Or this.....

“That individual right precedes government; government exists to protect it. There was something revolutionary, with a spark of a new birth of freedom, in Trump’s assertion that “In America, we know that faith and family, not government and bureaucracy, are the center of the American life.” How anti-Progressive! How anti-New Deal!"
Pro-American






For the Left, money, wealth and material equality

For the Right, consideration of values, morality and ethics.

 

[martybegan]

Students today don’t have the values or give the effort they used to

They do little original research, are incapable of crafting original thoughts
They substitute cut and paste for their own opinions

The thing is rote learning works for the Japanese. The difference is their culture gears their kids for it.

Our education issue is simply we were too good at it for too long, and Educators felt the need to tinker with "good enough to better than good enough" to get to "awesome", and ended up with "Meh"

 

[PoliticalChic]

Students today don’t have the values or give the effort they used to

They do little original research, are incapable of crafting original thoughts
They substitute cut and paste for their own opinions

The thing is rote learning works for the Japanese. The difference is their culture gears their kids for it.

Our education issue is simply we were too good at it for too long, and Educators felt the need to tinker with "good enough to better than good enough" to get to "awesome", and ended up with "Meh"

1. No.
The Left took over education, and they don't believe in knowledge-based standards.
They believe in education against oppression.


2. The “Massachusetts miracle,” in which Bay State students’ soaring test scores broke records, was the direct consequence of the state legislature’s passage of the 1993 Education Reform Act, which established knowledge-based standards for all grades and a rigorous testing system linked to the new standards. And those standards, Massachusetts reformers have acknowledged, are Hirsch’s legacy.


2a. In the new millennium, Massachusetts students have surged upward on the biennial National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP)—“the nation’s report card,” as education scholars call it. On the 2005 NAEP tests, Massachusetts ranked first in the nation in fourth- and eighth-grade reading and fourth- and eighth-grade math. It then repeated the feat in 2007. No state had ever scored first in both grades and both subjects in a single year—let alone for two consecutive test cycles. On another reliable test, the Trends in International Math and Science Studies, the state’s fourth-graders last year ranked second globally in science and third in math, while the eighth-graders tied for first in science and placed sixth in math. (States can volunteer, as Massachusetts did, to have their students compared with national averages.) The United States as a whole finished tenth.



3. In 2003, David Steiner and Susan Rozen published a study examining the curricula of 16 schools of education—14 of them among the top-ranked institutions in the country, according to U.S. News and World Report—and found that Pedagogy of the Oppressed was one of the most frequently assigned texts in their philosophy of education courses.This ed-school bestseller is, instead, a utopian political tract calling for the overthrow of capitalist hegemony and the creation of classless societies.

 

[rightwinger]

Education is never a waste

I'm gonna pretend that you are serious, as many probably believe that.....

And if so:

You couldn't be more wrong.
You could attempt to be, but you wouldn't succeed.



And see if this helps:


1. More details are emerging about Humam al-Balawi, the man who blew up seven intelligence agents in Afghanistan. By education and professional status, the Jordanian doctor is typical of recent suicidal attackers. The man accused of trying to blow up a plane on Christmas Day is a Nigerian graduate of the University of London. In the Fort Hood shootings, a Palestinian-American psychiatrist in the U.S. Army has been charged.
Humam al-Balawi was said to be carrying information about Ayman al-Zawahiri, Osama bin Laden's number two, himself a surgeon who was born to a prominent Egyptian family.
Mohamed Atta of 9/11, who was an Egyptian urban planner who had been working in Germany - these are not the wretched of the earth. What essentially is the grievance that draws them to al-Qaida?
Groups Recruiting Well-Educated Terrorists : NPR

2. A recent study at Princeton University by Alan Krueger and Jitka Maleckova, called "Education, Poverty, Political Violence and Terrorism: Is There a Causal Connection?" argues this point. One piece of the Krueger-Maleckova evidence involves 129 members of Hezbollah who died in action, mostly against Israel, from 1982 to 1994. Hezbollah is now designated by the U.S. as a terrorist organization. Biographical information from the Hezbollah newspaper al-Ahd indicates that the fighters who died were, on average, more educated and less impoverished than the Lebanese population of comparable age and regional origin….Moreover, the Palestinians' adherence to the view that the mass murder of civilians was not terrorism was independent of education and higher among those working than unemployed. Hence, support for terrorism was not reduced by increases in education and income….a study by Charles Russell and Bowman Miller (reprinted in the 1983 book Perspectives on Terrorism) considered 18 revolutionary groups, including the Japanese Red Army, Germany's Baader-Meinhof Gang, and Italy's Red Brigades. The authors found that "the vast majority of those individuals involved in terrorist activities as cadres or leaders is quite well-educated. In fact, approximately two-thirds of those identified terrorists are persons with some university training, [and] well over two-thirds of these individuals came from the middle or upper classes in their respective nations or areas." BW Online | June 10, 2002 | The Myth That Poverty Breeds Terrorism
http://www.krueger.princeton.edu/terrorism2.pdf

3. …men who belonged to violent Islamist groups active over the past few decades (some in jail, some not). Had those groups reflected the working-age populations of their countries, engineers would have made up about 3.5 percent of the membership. Instead, nearly 20 percent of the militants had engineering degrees. When Gambetta and Hertog looked at only the militants whose education was known for certain to have gone beyond high school, close to half (44 percent) had trained in engineering.
Today's Highly Educated Terrorists | The National Interest Blog

Today's Highly Educated Terrorists

4. Pol Pot, was the leader of the Cambodian communist movement known as the Khmer Rouge[3] and was Prime Minister of Democratic Kampuchea from 1976–1979. Pol Pot's leadership, in which he attempted to "cleanse" the country, resulted in the deaths of an estimated 1.7–2.5 million people…. he qualified for a scholarship that allowed for technical study in France. He studied radio electronics at the EFR in Paris from 1949 to 1953 Pol Pot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

5. Khmer Rouge leader Khieu Samphan, who had studied in Paris, wrote in his doctoral dissertation that the Cambodian economy and social structure would be renewed by tapping “the dormant energy of the peasant mass” against the cities. “Kissinger, “The White House Years,” p. 518.

6. Ernesto "Che" Guevara "the man was a mass killer. Hundreds were reportedly executed on his watch" Why Do people love a mass murder like Che? // Current

Ernesto Guevara de la Serna (1928-1967) was an Argentine physician... Biography of Ernesto Che Guevara, Revolutionary Leader


As a young boy growing up, he had a passion for education, literature and philosophy. Mao Zedong
"he worked as a doctor. Che Guevara : Biography

7. Lenin was born Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, April 22, 1870….In 1891 he passed the law examinations at the University of St. Petersburg as an external student, scoring first in his class. He practiced law briefly in Samara before devoting himself to the revolutionary movement. Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin), 1870-1924

8. Bashar al-Assad is the President of the Syrian Arab Republic, Regional Secretary of the Ba'ath Party, and the son of former President Hafez al-Assad. Al-Assad is a controversial figure both in Syria and Internationally… for his disregard for human rights, economic lapses, sponsorship of terrorism, and corruption. Bashar studied ophthalmology at Damascus University 1988 and arrived in London in 1992 to continue his studies. Bashar al-Assad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



9. Mao was a rebellious teen-ager. His father wanted him to be a farmer; Mao wanted more education beyond the village grammar school. Mao left home at age 13 to attend an advanced school in a nearby district and in 1911 arrived in Changsha, the provincial capital, to attend secondary school…. He tried law enforcement, business and history before settling on education, graduating from a teachers' training school in 1918. He departed for Beijing to attend the university. CNN In-Depth Specials - Visions of China - Profiles: Mao Tse-tung



10.Al Qaeda leader Ayman al Zawahiri received his master's degree in surgery from Cairo University.... http://www.biography.com/people/ayman-al-zawahiri-241182


11. Nidal Hasan, Abdulmutallab and Humam al-Balawi are jihadists who were educated and came from privileged middle- and upper-class backgrounds. Hasan was an American-trained U. S. Army doctor, Abdulmutallab was a London engineering student and the son of a wealthy Nigerian banker, and double-agent Dr. Humam al-Balawi was a member of the Jordanian professional class. The Educated Muslim Terrorist


12. "One piece of the Krueger-Maleckova evidence involves 129 members of Hezbollah who died in action, mostly against Israel, from 1982 to 1994. Hezbollah is now designated by the U.S. as a terrorist organization. Biographical information from the Hezbollah newspaper al-Ahd indicates that the fighters who died were, on average, more educated and less impoverished than the Lebanese population of comparable age and regional origin." Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

and......" a study by Charles Russell and Bowman Miller (reprinted in the 1983 book Perspectives on Terrorism) considered 18 revolutionary groups, including the Japanese Red Army, Germany's Baader-Meinhof Gang, and Italy's Red Brigades. The authors found that "the vast majority of those individuals involved in terrorist activities as cadres or leaders is quite well-educated. In fact, approximately two-thirds of those identified terrorists are persons with some university training, [and] well over two-thirds of these individuals came from the middle or upper classes in their respective nations or areas."Ibid.


13. Fidel Castro was a talented student, and decided to pursue a career in law, entering the University of Havana Law School in 1945. After graduating law school, he opened a law office that primarily catered for poor Cubans, although it proved a financial failure.

Fidel Castro Biography - life, family, parents, story, history, school, mother, young, son, old, information, born


Highly educated Leftists, smart guys all....



So, I'm wondering if our friends on the Left would like to claim any of these highly educated folks as their heroes?

You know, unlike the "amiable dunce, Ronald Reagan"...the guy who won the Cold War.
Could be the Left is wrong about what constitutes 'smart,' huh?



“The civilized people in the world, the ones who hide behind culture and art and politics…and even the law, they’re the ones to watch out for. They’ve got that perfect disguise goin’ for them, you know? But they’re the most vicious. They’re the most dangerous people on earth.”
Michael Connelly, "The Last Coyote," p.262




"Jihadi John", the masked Islamic State militant linked to the beheading of Western hostages, was named on Thursday as Kuwaiti-born London computer programmer Mohammed Emwazi by experts and the media.

The suspect is from a middle class family and earned a degree in computer programming before travelling to Syria around 2012, according to the report.

"Jihadi John", named after Beatle John Lennon due to his British accent, is believed to be responsible for the murders of US journalists James Foley and Steven Sotloff, British aid workers David Haines and Allan Henning and American aid worker Abdul-Rahman Kassig. IS executioner 'Jihadi John' named as London graduate | Daily Mail Online


"Radovan Karadzic, the former Bosnian Serb leader, was found guilty of genocide and crimes against humanity during the 1992-95 Bosnian war.

The atrocities during the war have been described as the worst crimes committed in Europe since World War Two.

One count of genocide related to the massacre of more than 7,500 Muslim men and boys in the Srebrenica enclave in July 1995...

§ 1968: Publishes collection of poetry

§ 1971: Graduates in medicine

§ 1983: Becomes team psychologist for Red Star Belgrade football club

§ 1990: Becomes president of Serbian Democratic Party

Profile: Radovan Karadzic

tl; dr