Was this outcome anticipated? If it wasn't, why not?

Iran was developing nuclear weapons and ICBMs. Kent can whine all he wants.
And they have shown us they needed neither to screw over the rest of the world.
 
Bullshit. No, we are not silent, but how does launching an ill thought out war that kills even more Iranians aid with that? In fact, it pushes many Iranians back to backing what is there because it is a foreign power blowing their nation. The regime in Iran deserved to be hammered, but this is not doing the job, in fact, with Iran's predictable response, it is earning the US enmity worldwide. Protect Iranians? How does killing even more Iranians protect Iranians? Protect Americans? How does having a war that is already starting to get Americans killed and wounded protect Americans? There is zero evidence that Iran was planning to attack America militarily. Their support of murdering terrorists is a fact, and that needed to be dealt with, but doing a military attack that will end up harming the whole world more that Iran is hardly a wise decision.
(yawn) anything else Mr. do nothing? Funny I don't see your proposal.
 
Before the war, his top military adviser, Gen. Dan Caine, warned him that Iran would probably respond by attacking ships in the strait and effectively closing it. Mr. Trump replied by suggesting that Iran’s government would capitulate before it could close the strait or that the U.S. military could keep the strait open, according to The Wall Street Journal. He was wrong, as should have been obvious. The price of oil has since jumped more than 40 percent.

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Iran was developing nuclear weapons and ICBMs. Kent can whine all he wants.
Bebe certainly didn't want a negotiated settlement on uranium enrichment. He wanted regime change and to compromise Iran's military capacity. He got the latter, not the former. Even better, FOR HIM, he got the US to join in.

Iran agreed to ‘zero stockpiling’ of nuclear material in US talks: Omani foreign minister​

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5759623-iran-nuclear-deal-stockpiling/

Iran was nowhere close to a nuclear bomb, experts say
 
Bebe certainly didn't want a negotiated settlement on uranium enrichment. He wanted regime change and to compromise Iran's military capacity. He got the latter, not the former. Even better, FOR HIM, he got the US to join in.

Iran agreed to ‘zero stockpiling’ of nuclear material in US talks: Omani foreign minister

So that "zero stockpiling" is bullshit. Iran has enough enriched Uranium for 11 nuclear bombs
Iran was nowhere close to a nuclear bomb, experts say
A few months is fairly close. We needed to stop their nuclear ambitions permanently. You're welcome.
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A few months is fairly close. We needed to stop their nuclear ambitions permanently. You're welcome.
A few months is not a few weeks. The regime lied. Just as the Bush admin lied about WMD's in Iraq. The urgency for starting a war while negotiations on Iran's enrichment program were ongoing simply wasn't there. Joe Kent knows that.
 

Maersk, a bellwether for global trade, suspends two key shipping services due to Iran war​

Danish shipping giant Maersk on Friday temporarily suspended two services linking the Middle East to Asia and Europe as the Iran war continues to disrupt global supply chains.

The company, widely regarded as a barometer of global trade, said the decision to halt the FM1 service, connecting the Far East to the Middle East, and the ME11 Service, linking the Middle East to Europe, was a precautionary measure to ensure the safety of its personnel and vessels.

It comes as the U.S. and Israeli-led war on Iran enters its seventh day, with the expanding conflict resulting in the effective halt of shipping traffic through the strategically vital Strait of Hormuz.

The waterway is a key, narrow maritime corridor that connects the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman. Roughly 20% of global oil and gas typically passes through it.

Container shipping giants, however, have suspended operations through the Strait of Hormuz since the U.S. and Israel launched attacks on Iran on Feb. 28 and rerouted vessels around the southern tip of Africa.

WTI crude tops $86, hits highest level since April 2024, Brent crude breaks above $89 a barrel​


Iran borders the Straight of Hormuz, through which 20% of the world's oil is shipped. Anyone familiar with the geography of the region knows this. And they knew how disruptive to shipping through the straight an attack on Iran would be. You'd have to be a moron not to understand this.

Begging the question, is the inevitable impact of trump's war with Iran the reason he did not take the legal route of seeking the approval of Congress to start it? Is it part of the plan?

Or one could ask, was a spike in the price of oil anticipated but dismissed as a price to be paid by US consumers (like the tariffs have been) worthy of the end game? I guess we'd have to know what the end game is before answering that question. Was it regime change?

Son of Khamenei Is Top Contender for Supreme Leader

Mojtaba Khamenei would likely lead country in even more hard-line direction


If it was, the war trump unnecessarily started was a reckless roll of the dice. The narrative for the rationale to start the war has constantly shifted leaving the timing of the off ramp in doubt. If Khamenei's kid becomes the leader does the war go on until he is killed too? Do we keep killing Iran's chosen leader until they pick one the master of regime change likes? If oil breaks over $90 a barrel does that change the calculus for ending the war?

Are members of the regime asking themselves these questions? Or is the US hostage to an oft used approach of trump's he has articulated quite often?

Trump’s catchphrase for any circumstance: “We’ll see”​

WASHINGTON (AP) — When in doubt, President Donald Trump has a ready-made response to any questions: “We’ll see.”

On Wednesday, Trump delivered his go-to line repeatedly. Asked if he would tie debt ceiling legislation to Harvey relief: “We’ll see.” On his plans for an increasingly aggressive North Korea: “We’ll see.” And on efforts to work with the Chinese president: “We’ll see how that works out.”

So. what are you going to do about it?
 
A few months is not a few weeks. The regime lied. Just as the Bush admin lied about WMD's in Iraq. The urgency for starting a war while negotiations on Iran's enrichment program were ongoing simply wasn't there. Joe Kent knows that.
I saw Joe Kent with Tucker. He based his nuclear rationale' on a Fatwah?!

He was not in the Iran loop for months after leaking. Looks like we're just pounding the IRGC from the air.

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I saw Joe Kent with Tucker. He based his nuclear rationale' on a Fatwah?!

He was not in the Iran loop for months after leaking. Looks like we're just pounding the IRGC from the air.

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Sorry, but Tulsi's written testimony at yesterday's hearing, admitting Iran had not restarted its enrichment program, validated Kent's reasons for resigning.
 
Here's why I think the regime has not announced a timetable or a plan for escorting ships in the Strait. It doesn't know if it will work. Even if it does, the pace of shipping will only be a fraction of what it was (100 ships a day.)

The idea of escorts is the only card the regime has to play at the moment. If they play it and it doesn't work oil goes much higher.
 
Sorry, but Tulsi's written testimony at yesterday's hearing, admitting Iran had not restarted its enrichment program, validated Kent's reasons for resigning.
Having 440 kg of 60% enriched uranium is one hell of a good start to getting 10 nuclear bombs.
If Iran decided to build a nuke it could do so very quickly.
Not enriching doesn't prove "no intent" to build nukes.
 
Here's why I think the regime has not announced a timetable or a plan for escorting ships in the Strait. It doesn't know if it will work. Even if it does, the pace of shipping will only be a fraction of what it was (100 ships a day.)
The idea of escorts is the only card the regime has to play at the moment. If they play it and it doesn't work oil goes much higher.
OK admiral iceberg. Lets see how it actually plays out.
 
Having 440 kg of 60% enriched uranium is one hell of a good start to getting 10 nuclear bombs.
If Iran decided to build a nuke it could do so very quickly.
Not enriching doesn't prove "no intent" to build nukes.
Nope.

Just Get Out! Now!​

As is becoming clearer from President Trump’s own statements and those of his staff, along with press reporting, the US has launched a major war without the input of the experts we pay to advise the President on such matters. The State Department, Pentagon, National Security Council Staff, Defense Intelligence Agency, and NSA were simply bypassed because, as White House Spokesperson Karoline Leavitt said, President Trump “had a feeling” Iran would attack.

The President’s real estate developer son-in-law and friend reinforced that “feeling” when they returned from the second round of talks with the Iranian foreign minister and his team. However, as the news outlet Responsible Statecraft (RS) reported over the weekend, both son-in-law Jared Kushner and friend Steve Witkoff appear to have mis-represented those talks in a way that helped push President Trump toward war. No State Department officials were on hand to ensure the reporting was accurate.

Also, arms control experts at home, according to the RS report, believe that “the duo appeared to have fatally misunderstood a series of basic technical and historical matters” regarding Iran’s nuclear program leading to inaccurate information conveyed to the President.

ronpaulinstitute.org

Just Get Out! Now! - The Ron Paul Institute for Peace & Prosperity

As is becoming clearer from President Trump’s own statements and those of his staff, along with press reporting, the US has launched a major war without the input of the experts we pay to advise the President on such matters. The State Department, Pentagon, National Security Council Staff...
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Iran was nowhere close to a nuclear bomb, experts say
Confusion on whether Iran truly needed only “two weeks to four weeks” to make a nuclear weapon, as President Donald Trump suggested on Monday, hangs over the ongoing U.S. and Israeli war on the Persian Gulf nation. Nuclear experts call this claim unlikely—but the confusion may stem from some basics of atomic chemistry.

“There was no evidence that Iran was close to a nuclear weapon,” says Jeffrey Lewis of the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies. His comment echoed those of other experts after the war’s start, as well as statements from International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) chief Rafael Grossi at that time and in 2025 and last year’s “threat assessment” report by U.S. intelligence agencies.

According to an IAEA estimate, as of June 2025, Iran possessed 441 kilograms of 60 percent enriched uranium, where the percentage refers to the share of the isotope uranium 235 (U 235) found in the material. That would be enough for 10 nuclear weapons if the material could be enriched further to full 90 percent weapons-grade concentrations, according to the IAEA. That further enrichment would take a matter of weeks in a fully functioning Iranian nuclear complex, perhaps explaining the time line within Trump’s declaration.

That step alone doesn’t equal a bomb, however. And Iran’s main enrichment capabilities were “completely and totally obliterated,” according to Trump himself in June, after the U.S. bombed three underground Iranian facilities. The administration’s special envoy to the Middle East Steve Witkoff nonetheless claimed on March 3, after the start of the current war, that Iran had the capability to make 11 nuclear bombs. Trump administration officials reportedly failed to include nuclear technical experts in their negotiation teams with Iran prior to the war, adding to the uncertainty. If Iran really had rebuilt these facilities, that might have led—over months and not weeks—to the nation resuming its uranium enrichment, Lewis says. “But this is all ‘if,’ ‘maybe’ and ‘later,’” he adds.

www.scientificamerican.com

Iran was nowhere close to a nuclear bomb, experts say

Although President Trump has claimed Iran was weeks away from developing a nuclear weapon, much more work was needed for the country to do so
www.scientificamerican.com
www.scientificamerican.com

Never send a boy to do a man's job. In the sense of engaging in complex negotiations about Iran's uranium enrichment program, Steve and Jared were infants.
The Trump administration sent negotiators without nuclear expertise to lead talks on Iran’s enrichment program. Now, its public case for war centers on a facility that experts say cannot do what officials claim.
www.ms.now

Nuclear experts undercut White House claims about Iran reactor at heart of case for war

The Trump administration sent negotiators without nuclear expertise to lead talks on Iran’s enrichment program. Now, its public case for war centers on a facility that experts say cannot do what officials claim.
www.ms.now
www.ms.now

If Steve Witkoff is one of Don's good golfing buddies and Jared is a swell husband to Ivanka that's all fine and dandy. But friendship and familial relations aren't the necessary qualifications needed to negotiate on important, technical matters with war in the balance. The question I would want answered if I were the parents of one of the dead US soldiers is why were Witkoff and Kushner even in the room while negotiations were being held? Negotiations that nonetheless produced a positive result.

Iran agreed to ‘zero stockpiling’ of nuclear material in US talks: Omani foreign minister

Oman’s foreign minister said Friday that Iran is offering to give up stockpiling enriched uranium as part of a deal with the U.S. related to its nuclear program.

Foreign Minister Badr al-Busaidi is serving as the mediator between U.S. and Iranian officials in Geneva.

“Now we are talking about zero stockpiling and that is very, very important because if you cannot stockpile material that is enriched, then there is no way you can actually create a bomb,” al-Busaidi told Margaret Brennan of CBS’s “Face the Nation.”

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5759623-iran-nuclear-deal-stockpiling/

But that offer wasn't good enough for Bebe. I would argue he preferred war to a negotiated agreement on the enrichment program. So he convinced trump to come along for the ride.
 
OK admiral iceberg. Lets see how it actually plays out.
You don't go to war, by choice, and then throw up your hands and say "Lets see how it actually plays out" as Dotard has done.
 
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Iran hits Kuwaiti oil refinery and explosions boom over Tehran from Israeli attack​

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — A Kuwaiti oil refinery came under Iranian drone attack early Friday and sirens in Israel warned of incoming fire, while explosions boomed over Tehran from Israeli strikes as the country marked the Persian New Year.

The war that has rocked the global economy neared the end of its third week with Iran showing no signs of letting up on its attacks on Gulf region energy infrastructure. Kuwait said two waves of drone strikes at its Mina Al-Ahmadi oil refinery sparked a fire and crews were working to control the blaze.

The refinery, which can process some 730,000 barrels of oil per day, was already damaged Thursday in another Iranian attack. It is one of three oil refineries in Kuwait, a tiny, oil-rich nation on the Persian Gulf.

Iran stepped up its attacks on energy sites in Gulf Arab states after Israel on Wednesday bombed Iran’s massive South Pars offshore natural gas field in the Persian Gulf.


Maybe Don went long oil before he unnecessarily decided to take the US to war.
 
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As compared to the methods or achievement of Obama and Biden took during the peoples uprising in their time in office.
Obama and Biden had different approaches to Iranian uprisings. Obama took a cautious, "hands-off" approach during the 2009 Green Movement to avoid appearing as though the US was instigating, which he later viewed as a missed opportunity. Conversely, Biden in 2022 publicly supported protesters, imposed sanctions on the morality police, and enabled internet access.
While Obama was criticized for inaction, some argue his approach was intended to protect dissidents, a strategy that failed to stop the regime's crackdown. Critics, however, argue that both administrations failed to adequately support Iranian people against the regime.
Obama and Biden both had policies of appeasement which failed. It s also likely Biden was controlled by Obama since he was too inpaired to run the country and also appeased Iran.
 
WTF!
Tulsi Gabbard Says U.S. and Israel Have Very Different Goals in Iran

Our ally has different interests? The one to which trump wants to send 20K more bombs.
 
WTF!
Tulsi Gabbard Says U.S. and Israel Have Very Different Goals in Iran
Our ally has different interests? The one to which trump wants to send 20K more bombs.
Israel wants regime change and is hitting Iran's leadership very hard, especially the IRGC

The US is focusing on Iran's offensive capabilities to protect the region from attacks by Iran.

Both goals are good and are not in opposition dumbass.
 
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