Zone1 Was The Garden Of Eden A Real Place?

[Woodznutz]

100%

It was because of the benefit of belief in this life that is the basis for Paschal's wager. Not a lot of people got that because they'd rather not acknowledge that. But it is true.

True. Better safe than sorry.

 

[Woodznutz]

It's a lie for precisely the reason I mentioned. And you won't get around that reason, because you can't. That's why you didn't try.

Of course religion still exists. That's our primitive past living on in us. Like wisdom teeth, and baby toes.

Religious principles are fundamental to our existence.

My wisdom teeth are functional; I chew food with them. People have trouble with them because of malnutrition in early development of the jaw bones. Many are fine and functional but the dentists pulls them anyway.

 

[Woodznutz]

that is not an excuse to allow throughout history the crimes committed by the desert religions.

the 1st century events, liberation theology, self determination is the repudiation of judaism - servitude and denial, more so 4th century christianity or the false commandments made by the liar moses.

to bad for you nutz - you do not own jesus - you haven't the faintest what or why those people died for.

Well, don't keep us in the dark.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Religious principles are fundamental to our existence.

No they aren't. What nonsense. We don't need Ancient mythologies to derive any important ideas.Whatsoever.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Of course pascal's wager is just a useless pile of crap. Because it cuts both ways. But that doesn't even occur to faithers, because they think they know the truth already.

 

[Woodznutz]

No they aren't. What nonsense. We don't need Ancient mythologies to derive any important ideas.Whatsoever.

I said principles, not mythologies.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I said principles, not mythologies.

Yes, sme principles derived from mythologies. But we don't need ancient mythologies to derive those principles. It was just the best we had in a more primitive and ignorant time for our species.

In fact, these days, we usually need secular government to teach religious people what is right and what is wrong.

 

[Woodznutz]

Of course pascal's wager is just a useless pile of crap. Because it cuts both ways. But that doesn't even occur to faithers, because they think they know the truth already.

The greatest truth that we know is that a principle must be exercised in order to be effective. You must "walk the talk".

 

[Woodznutz]

In fact, these days, we usually need secular government to teach religious people what is right and what is wrong.

I wouldn't trust the fox to teach the chickens how to be safe.

 

[Woodznutz]

Yes, sme principles derived from mythologies. But we don't need ancient mythologies to derive those principles. It was just the best we had in a more primitive and ignorant time for our species.

Why would a valid principle change over time?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I wouldn't trust the fox to teach the chickens how to be safe.

Sorry, you don't have any choice. Them's the rules.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Why would a valid principle change over time?

Never said it did. I said we don't need primitive mythologies to derive any useful idea or principle. We no longer need those childish toys from our more primitive and ignorant eras.

 

[Woodznutz]

Sorry, you don't have any choice. Them's the rules.

I feel quite helpless against 'my' government.

 

[Woodznutz]

Never said it did. I said we don't need primitive mythologies to derive any useful idea or principle. We no longer need those childish toys from our more primitive and ignorant eras.

Some 'mythologies' reveal the principles in story form. In other places they are plainly stated. Also, mythologies with moral lessons are still taught in state run schools. The most liberal folks in the world, artists, routinely use mythical characters in their art.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I feel quite helpless against 'my' government.

Sorry you feel that way. I feel pretty thankful to live in a modern society with secular government and rule of law.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Also, mythologies with moral lessons are still taught in state run schools.

Yes.

To children.

And they are presented as FABLES. They don't purpose themselves to be true stories.

Think about these two things.

 

[Woodznutz]

Sorry you feel that way. I feel pretty thankful to live in a modern society with secular government and rule of law.

Many of our laws don't work except to line the pockets of the rich and keep the common folk in fear, sickness, and poverty.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Sorry you feel that way. I feel pretty thankful to live in a modern society with secular government and rule of law.

rule of law? We dont have that anymore thanks to tds and Biden.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Many of our laws don't work except to line the pockets of the rich and keep the common folk in fear and poverty.

Like how Christianity was wielded by the Roman empire. But not nearly as bad as that.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

rule of law? We dont have that anymore thanks to tds and Biden.

There is no room for these cult outbursts in this discussion. Sorry.