Zone1 Was The Garden Of Eden A Real Place?

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your delusion is for you a way of life, the same as believing a false religion is an advantage to the one that does exist for belief in itself offers an advantage regardless its authenticity is all that is necessary. exactly why you are a christian, your personal well being than the path set by the true heavenly religion of antiquity.

as all other species understand, the paradisian path to have evolved equally or greater than humanity or that all humanity does not follow the same religious doctrines. or any at all.

It's not a delusion. It's called the happiness advantage and it's real. Performance is 33% better when in a happy state than when in a neutral, negative or stressed state. You can literally train your mind in thirty days to naturally be in a happy state. All things Christian do as part of the practice of their faith. Turns on all the learning centers of the mind.

So it makes perfect sense that religion has a functional advantage over no religion and has continued to exist, in overwhelming numbers, in every society since the beginning of man. Does it matter which religion one practices to achieve the happiness advantage? No. It's all about the process of placing the mind in a happy and thankful state.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Moses didn't write anything.

Almost certainly, save for maybe some heiroglyphs somewhere. Otherwise, he was almost certainly illiterate.

 

[BreezeWood]

Moses didn't write anything. There were many authors 800 years after the death of Moses.

could be or a conclave the sole purpose to represent their version of judaism - your issue though same w/ 91 - the tangential needn't a central figure, with or without seems to have made little difference - the false heavenly etched tablets and their commandments are embedded in all three desert religions. for your sake then who do they represent the authors.

 

[BreezeWood]

It's not a delusion. It's called the happiness advantage and it's real. Performance is 33% better when in a happy state than when in a neutral, negative or stressed state. You can literally train your mind in thirty days to naturally be in a happy state. All things Christian do as part of the practice of their faith. Turns on all the learning centers of the mind.

So it makes perfect sense that religion has a functional advantage over no religion and has continued to exist, in overwhelming numbers, in every society since the beginning of man. Does it matter which religion one practices to achieve the happiness advantage? No. It's all about the process of placing the mind in a happy and thankful state.

you seem oblivious ...

to reality.

* well they only speak english in texas - try american some day that might be just the contrast you are lacking. can't be any worse than what you are using.

 

[surada]

Fort Fun Indiana

BreezeWood

Were the Ten Commandments taken from the Egyptian Book of the Dead?

This meme image from Pinterest suggests the Old Testament's Ten Commandments were derived from the Egyptian Book of the Dead. Does this sound familiar? Do not curse god Do not scorn god Do not aba...

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Were the Ten Commandments taken from the Egyptian Book of the Dead?

Does this sound familiar?

Do not curse god
Do not scorn god
Do not abandon your parents
Do not defile the wife of a man
Do not steal
Do not bear false witness
Do not defraud the humble man of his property.

These "Commandments" are taken from the Egyptian "Book of the Dead" written centuries before the story of Moses and his encounter with "God"

This is one of many examples of the claim. Is the Negative Confession in the Egyptian Book of the Dead the source for seven of the ten mosaic commandments?

 

[surada]

And, it's more complicated....

Also there are some interesting items in the Egyptian list that are not in the Decalogue: the Egyptians banned anger (19, 25, 38), remorse (13), refusing to listen to "truth" (26) and being nosy (17, 31). None of those are found in the Decalogue (although they may be found elsewhere in Mosaic law; I don't know).

Here is the Egyptian list (from Wikipedia):

I have not committed sin.
I have not committed robbery with violence.
I have not stolen.
I have not slain men and women.
I have not stolen grain.
I have not purloined offerings.
I have not stolen the property of the gods.
I have not uttered lies.
I have not carried away food.
I have not uttered curses.
I have not committed adultery, I have not lain with men
. I have made none to weep.
I have not eaten the heart [i.e., I have not grieved uselessly, or felt remorse].
I have not attacked any man.
I am not a man of deceit.
I have not stolen cultivated land.
I have not been an eavesdropper.
I have slandered [no man].
I have not been angry without just cause.
I have not debauched the wife of any man.
I have not debauched the wife of [any] man. (repeats the previous affirmation but addressed to a different god).
I have not polluted myself
I have terrorized none.
I have not transgressed [the Law].
I have not been wroth.
I have not shut my ears to the words of truth.
I have not blasphemed.
I am not a man of violence.
I am not a stirrer up of strife (or a disturber of the peace).
I have not acted (or judged) with undue haste.
I have not pried into matters.
I have not multiplied my words in speaking.
I have wronged none, I have done no evil.
I have not worked witchcraft against the King (or blasphemed against the King).
I have never stopped [the flow of] water.
I have never raised my voice (spoken arrogantly, or in anger).
I have not cursed (or blasphemed) God.
I have not acted with evil rage.
I have not stolen the bread of the gods.
I have not carried away the khenfu cakes from the spirits of the dead.
I have not snatched away the bread of the child, nor treated with contempt the god of my city.
I have not slain the cattle belonging to the god.

 

[ding]

you seem oblivious ...

to reality.

You think I'm oblivious because I said it doesn't matter which religion a person practices?

Can you explain why you believe that?

 

[ding]

And, it's more complicated....

Also there are some interesting items in the Egyptian list that are not in the Decalogue: the Egyptians banned anger (19, 25, 38), remorse (13), refusing to listen to "truth" (26) and being nosy (17, 31). None of those are found in the Decalogue (although they may be found elsewhere in Mosaic law; I don't know).

Here is the Egyptian list (from Wikipedia):

I have not committed sin.
I have not committed robbery with violence.
I have not stolen.
I have not slain men and women.
I have not stolen grain.
I have not purloined offerings.
I have not stolen the property of the gods.
I have not uttered lies.
I have not carried away food.
I have not uttered curses.
I have not committed adultery, I have not lain with men
. I have made none to weep.
I have not eaten the heart [i.e., I have not grieved uselessly, or felt remorse].
I have not attacked any man.
I am not a man of deceit.
I have not stolen cultivated land.
I have not been an eavesdropper.
I have slandered [no man].
I have not been angry without just cause.
I have not debauched the wife of any man.
I have not debauched the wife of [any] man. (repeats the previous affirmation but addressed to a different god).
I have not polluted myself
I have terrorized none.
I have not transgressed [the Law].
I have not been wroth.
I have not shut my ears to the words of truth.
I have not blasphemed.
I am not a man of violence.
I am not a stirrer up of strife (or a disturber of the peace).
I have not acted (or judged) with undue haste.
I have not pried into matters.
I have not multiplied my words in speaking.
I have wronged none, I have done no evil.
I have not worked witchcraft against the King (or blasphemed against the King).
I have never stopped [the flow of] water.
I have never raised my voice (spoken arrogantly, or in anger).
I have not cursed (or blasphemed) God.
I have not acted with evil rage.
I have not stolen the bread of the gods.
I have not carried away the khenfu cakes from the spirits of the dead.
I have not snatched away the bread of the child, nor treated with contempt the god of my city.
I have not slain the cattle belonging to the god.

So where is this religion today?

 

[surada]

So where is this religion today?

Don't you think it has been absorbed by Judaism, Christianity and Islam?

 

[ding]

Don't you think it has been absorbed by Judaism, Christianity and Islam?

No. I think it died out.

 

[surada]

No. I think it died out.

That doesn't make sense to me at all. Like the Palestinians are and amalgamation of Egyptians, Canaanites, Arabs, Romans, Greeks,Turks, Crusaders and every other group that controlled the hill country. People and their culture don't suddenly vanish.

 

[ding]

That doesn't make sense to me at all. Like the Palestinians are and amalgamation of Egyptians, Canaanites, Arabs, Turks, Crusaders and every other group that controlled the hill country. People and their culture don't suddenly vanish.

It makes perfect sense to me. No one is following that text. Your attempt to hitch a ride on Judaism is ridiculous.

 

[surada]

It makes perfect sense to me. No one is following that text. Your attempt to hitch a ride on Judaism is ridiculous.

Nobody is hitching a ride on Judaism. They were landless Canaanites.. They weren't living in a vacuum. See the Ugarit texts from Ras Shamra in Syria. There can be no doubt that the Jews emerged from those people.

 

[ding]

Nobody is hitching a ride on Judaism. They were landless Canaanites.. They weren't living in a vacuum. See the Ugarit texts from Ras Shamra in Syria. There can be no doubt that the Jews emerged from those people.

That is in effect what you are saying. The Jews plagiarized their religion from the Egyptians is what you are claiming, right? And now you want to claim these supposedly profound texts live on in Judaism, right? That's a conspiracy theory.

 

[surada]

That is in effect what you are saying. The Jews plagiarized their religion from the Egyptians is what you are claiming, right? And now you want to claim these supposedly profound texts live on in Judaism, right? That's a conspiracy theory.

I guess you could call it plagiarizing... I don't.

 

[ding]

I guess you could call it plagiarizing... I don't.

What do you call it?

 

[surada]

What do you call it?

A river ..

 

[BreezeWood]

You think I'm oblivious because I said it doesn't matter which religion a person practices?

Can you explain why you believe that?

no, nothing to think -

you are not truly oblivious to reality - you live in a cocoon.

are your christians not happy above even more so they were just returning from their trip to texas. the land of sugar and honey.

is there something missing in the photo ... beyond proof of oblivious gratuity.

 

[BreezeWood]

Were the Ten Commandments taken from the Egyptian Book of the Dead?

I guess you could call it plagiarizing... I don't.

what wouldn't be in regards to religion ...

certainly to study the contrast for the text would be necessary and what disclaimers would have had to have been made woven in their text - the above would certainly be a boost for islam.

* that is not the point, why the 1st century is the repudiation of judaism - the heavenly personification used by them, abraham's hereditary idolatry - moses's etched in heaven commandments - their claims of heavenly personifications those that wrote their book chose is why their dishonesty proves the fallacy of their madeup religion -

than the paradisian origination for the reason to leave eden in search for their own self determination ... an anathema to commandments sent from the heavens - than their own liberation theology - to be judged for remission.

 

[surada]

what wouldn't be in regards to religion ...

certainly to study the contrast for the text would be necessary and what disclaimers would have had to have been made woven in their text - the above would certainly be a boost for islam.

* that is not the point, why the 1st century is the repudiation of judaism - the heavenly personification used by them, abraham's hereditary idolatry - moses's etched in heaven commandments - their claims of heavenly personifications those that wrote their book chose is why their dishonesty proves the fallacy of their madeup religion -

than the paradisian origination for the reason to leave eden in search for their own self determination ... an anathema to commandments sent from the heavens - than their own liberation theology - to be judged for remission.

Sorry. I don't know what you're saying.