Zone1 Was The Garden Of Eden A Real Place?

What's the problem Even well-meaning Christians ignore or don't fully understand the events that took place in the garden.
I would go farther and include all people today even the Jews.
 
No, it's not a lie. You're trying to argue a dominant feature is vestigial is idiotic. Say it with me. Religion still exists in overwhelming numbers because religion offers a functional advantage that non-religion can't offer. That are you can just deny Darwinian principles and claim shit happens for no good reasons.
It's a lie for precisely the reason I mentioned. And you won't get around that reason, because you can't. That's why you didn't try.

Of course religion still exists. That's our primitive past living on in us. Like wisdom teeth, and baby toes.
 
It's a lie for precisely the reason I mentioned. And you won't get around that reason, because you can't. That's why you didn't try.

Of course religion still exists. That's our primitive past living on in us. Like wisdom teeth, and baby toes.
You think it's a lie because it destroys your atheistic worldview. Just like the universe popping into existence being hardwired to produce beings that know and create destroys your atheistic worldview.

Personally I think you shitting on the science of cosmology and evolution is little different than the Mormons basing their cosmology on what Joseph Smith said. It only shows your atheism is your religion and as such you are happy to shit on science when it doesn't suit your religious beliefs.
 
You think it's a lie because it destroys your atheistic worldview.
No, it's a lie for precisely the reason I mentioned.

The reason you cannot address or get around.

Enjoy diddling your strawmen for 10 pages, though.
 
No, it's a lie for precisely the reason I mentioned.

The reason you cannot address or get around.

Enjoy diddling your strawmen for 10 pages, though.
You've cycled through losing argument after losing argument. First you denied it and now you accept it but call it a vestige. Religion isn't a trace which is what a vestige is. It's a dominant feature of mankind. Your continued denial of the functional advantage of religion and your denial of science with weak argument after weak argument only serves to make you look like a crazy religious fanatic defending his religion.
 
You've cycled through losing argument after losing argument.
No, I gave one single, clear reason.

And out came the ding strawmen, as always.

It will be there waiting for you, when you tire out.
 
No, I gave one single, clear reason.

And out came the ding strawmen, as always.

It will be there waiting for you, when you tire out.
Dominant features of mankind are not a vestige. It's a dominant feature. Say it with me.
 
I never said you were. I couldn't care less to convince you. Your mind is closed. I'm here to correct you.
Then you understand. I don't have to argue to your biased standards. Those are your problem.
 
Then you understand. I don't have to argue to your biased standards. Those are your problem.
The only standards you should follow are logic and truth. If you want to believe religion has existed in overwhelming numbers in every society since the beginning of man because man is ignorant and superstitious, go ahead. But that's not logical and it's not the truth.
 
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Which is why I gave one clear and compelling reason. It sent you quickly into a tailspin from which you have not yet recovered.
Only in your head. Not in the record. So let me just reiterate...

The only standards you should follow are logic and truth. If you want to believe religion has existed in overwhelming numbers in every society since the beginning of man because man is ignorant and superstitious, go ahead. But that's not logical and it's not the truth.
 
The only standards you should follow are logic and truth.
Which is why i gave one clear and compelling reason. A very simple, valid argument.

But thanks. And frankly, I don't want advice on reason from someone who believes in zombie kings and sky daddies. No offense.
 
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Which is why i gave one clear and compelling reason. A very simple, valid argument.

But thanks. And frankly, I don't want advice on reason from someone who believes in zombie kings and sky daddies. No offense.
Again... Only in your head. Not in the record. So let me just reiterate...

The only standards you should follow are logic and truth. If you want to believe religion has existed in overwhelming numbers in every society since the beginning of man because man is ignorant and superstitious, go ahead. But that's not logical and it's not the truth.
 
are you claiming all living beings are desert adherents - like you.
No. And I'm not sure how you made that leap in logic either. Try to stay with me here... belief in a higher power offers functional advantages that no belief in a higher power can offer.

your delusion is for you a way of life, the same as believing a false religion is an advantage to the one that does exist for belief in itself offers an advantage regardless its authenticity is all that is necessary. exactly why you are a christian, your personal well being than the path set by the true heavenly religion of antiquity.

as all other species understand, the paradisian path to have evolved equally or greater than humanity or that all humanity does not follow the same religious doctrines. or any at all.
 
What's the problem Even well-meaning Christians ignore or don't fully understand the events that took place in the garden.

that is not an excuse to allow throughout history the crimes committed by the desert religions.

the 1st century events, liberation theology, self determination is the repudiation of judaism - servitude and denial, more so 4th century christianity or the false commandments made by the liar moses.

to bad for you nutz - you do not own jesus - you haven't the faintest what or why those people died for.
 
that is not an excuse to allow throughout history the crimes committed by the desert religions.

the 1st century events, liberation theology, self determination is the repudiation of judaism - servitude and denial, more so 4th century christianity or the false commandments made by the liar moses.

to bad for you nutz - you do not own jesus - you haven't the faintest what or why those people died for.

Moses didn't write anything. There were many authors 800 years after the death of Moses.
 
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