Was HITLER a Christian indeed?

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One of Hitler's biggest financial supporters in the very early days was a Jew.
It was the business community that put Hitler in power including Jews, because instability in Germany threatened a communist take over - they would lose everything.
By the time he came to power the particular Jew who helped them was owed so much money, and by that time they'd found out he was a Jew, and his shot up body was found in a hedge after the 'Night of the long knives'.
Leading politicians and the business community all thought he would soften the anti-Semitism once in power, and they could control him. Wrong!
Hitler was INSANE! So the question in the OP is non applicable.
Yes, it has always been so consoling and convenient to say he was insane. The truth is that he was not very different from a lot of his contemporaries, nor from many of ours.
Yes he most definitely was!
Stalin, Franco, Truman, Mao - none even come close!
 

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One of Hitler's biggest financial supporters in the very early days was a Jew.
It was the business community that put Hitler in power including Jews, because instability in Germany threatened a communist take over - they would lose everything.
By the time he came to power the particular Jew who helped them was owed so much money, and by that time they'd found out he was a Jew, and his shot up body was found in a hedge after the 'Night of the long knives'.
Leading politicians and the business community all thought he would soften the anti-Semitism once in power, and they could control him. Wrong!
Hitler was INSANE! So the question in the OP is non applicable.
Yes, it has always been so consoling and convenient to say he was insane. The truth is that he was not very different from a lot of his contemporaries, nor from many of ours.
He was addicted to amphetamines, so yeah he had a lot in common with meth heads and other dopers, but then the left loves filling the pockets of drug cartels, biker gangs, etc. with lots of cash as well.

One of the historical ironies of the Nazi scapegoating of Jews is that Jews, especially Jewish bankers, were very pro-German in the WW I era, due to the Kaiser's anti-Russian fetish, which caused a lot of bad press here in the U.S. against Jewish immigrants, meanwhile among the Nazis Hitler was almost alone in his hatred of the Soviet Union, while Himmler and especially Goebbels gushed over the Communists success there no end until Hitler finally got full control of the Party. This all got forgotten in the Versailles propaganda on both sides.
 

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One of Hitler's biggest financial supporters in the very early days was a Jew.
It was the business community that put Hitler in power including Jews, because instability in Germany threatened a communist take over - they would lose everything.
By the time he came to power the particular Jew who helped them was owed so much money, and by that time they'd found out he was a Jew, and his shot up body was found in a hedge after the 'Night of the long knives'.
Leading politicians and the business community all thought he would soften the anti-Semitism once in power, and they could control him. Wrong!
Hitler was INSANE! So the question in the OP is non applicable.
Yes, it has always been so consoling and convenient to say he was insane. The truth is that he was not very different from a lot of his contemporaries, nor from many of ours.
He was addicted to amphetamines, so yeah he had a lot in common with meth heads and other dopers, but then the left loves filling the pockets of drug cartels, biker gangs, etc. with lots of cash as well.

One of the historical ironies of the Nazi scapegoating of Jews is that Jews, especially Jewish bankers, were very pro-German in the WW I era, due to the Kaiser's anti-Russian fetish, which caused a lot of bad press here in the U.S. against Jewish immigrants, meanwhile among the Nazis Hitler was almost alone in his hatred of the Soviet Union, while Himmler and especially Goebbels gushed over the Communists success there no end until Hitler finally got full control of the Party. This all got forgotten in the Versailles propaganda on both sides.
 

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One of Hitler's biggest financial supporters in the very early days was a Jew.
It was the business community that put Hitler in power including Jews, because instability in Germany threatened a communist take over - they would lose everything.
By the time he came to power the particular Jew who helped them was owed so much money, and by that time they'd found out he was a Jew, and his shot up body was found in a hedge after the 'Night of the long knives'.
Leading politicians and the business community all thought he would soften the anti-Semitism once in power, and they could control him. Wrong!
Hitler was INSANE! So the question in the OP is non applicable.
Yes, it has always been so consoling and convenient to say he was insane. The truth is that he was not very different from a lot of his contemporaries, nor from many of ours.
He was addicted to amphetamines, so yeah he had a lot in common with meth heads and other dopers, but then the left loves filling the pockets of drug cartels, biker gangs, etc. with lots of cash as well.

One of the historical ironies of the Nazi scapegoating of Jews is that Jews, especially Jewish bankers, were very pro-German in the WW I era, due to the Kaiser's anti-Russian fetish, which caused a lot of bad press here in the U.S. against Jewish immigrants, meanwhile among the Nazis Hitler was almost alone in his hatred of the Soviet Union, while Himmler and especially Goebbels gushed over the Communists success there no end until Hitler finally got full control of the Party. This all got forgotten in the Versailles propaganda on both sides.
."...but then the left loves filling the pockets of drug cartels, biker gangs, etc. with lots of cash as well."

Ha ha, - you yanks like nothing better than during a serious debate, dropping the most infantile and brain numbing statements as a matter of course. With such a stupid remark Picaro, your credibility has just gone straight out the window.

What ever! Cant be asked! Good day!
 
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I do not see the fruits of the spirit exhibited in HITLER's views or politics: https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2019/04/20/hitler-hated-judaism-he-loathed-christianity-too/
Hitler was a Christian, indeed.
GALATIANS 5:19-20
19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. (SUCH ARE NOT SPIRIT FILLED BELIEVERS)

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. (THIS IS HOW A BELIEVER SHOULD BEHAVE and how you can tell them apart)

Now which model did Hitler fit? Consider again, was HITLER a real Christian or a fake?
 
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Hitler was INSANE! So the question in the OP is non applicable.
You can't be insane AND be a xtian?

That's convenient.
I'm shocked!
That you of all people, and totally unprovoked, would use such a derogatory word to describe Christians.
It would be like me calling you by the Y word for no good reason.

Neither does it go anyway towards trying to sort out the age old 'Jewish problem', as regards Christianity.

The 'problem' being of course, 'Why do Jews have to be so Jewish', when living in a predominately Christian society.

As for Hitler....when INSANE, it doesn't matter what he was, or thought he was.

He wasn't anything other than INSANE, FULL STOP.
 
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And contrary to what you may have heard, there were Jews who originally supported Hitler.
And contrary to what you believe, Jews aren't a monolithic group with identical political beliefs.

To low information voters, Hitler would have seemed a reasonable alternative to other Weimar alternatives.

It's safe to say any Jew who did support Hitler when his plans started going forward, didn't do so as an openly Jewish person.
And neither are all people who label themselves or are labeled by others "christian" (a monolithic group). And certainly, many people can be taken in by a forgery ----- but certainly not if they personally study the Bible and seek to know the truth... The truth sets one free.
 
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Hitler was INSANE! So the question in the OP is non applicable.
You can't be insane AND be a xtian?

That's convenient.
Much of what could be regarded as insanity is the when an individual tries to live on both sides of a fence. Consider Israel's king Saul. He continuously seemed to do the very opposite of what GOD told him to do. Eventually, Saul took his own life. I see definite parallels-------- don't you?
 

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And contrary to what you may have heard, there were Jews who originally supported Hitler.
And contrary to what you believe, Jews aren't a monolithic group with identical political beliefs.

To low information voters, Hitler would have seemed a reasonable alternative to other Weimar alternatives.

It's safe to say any Jew who did support Hitler when his plans started going forward, didn't do so as an openly Jewish person.
And neither are all people who label themselves or a labeled by others "christian" (a monolithic group). And certainly, many people can be taken in by a forgery ----- but certainly not if they personally study the Bible and seek to know the truth... The truth sets one free.
The Bible was compiled from around 400 ad from a selection of old manuscripts. What makes you think that each and every one of them was any more factual and 'true', than the works of William Shakespeare?
 
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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Hexenkartothek was an investigation into witch trials led by SS-Untersturmführer Rudolf Levin under the orders of Heinrich Himmler.[1]
Himmler organised a team of SS researchers to collect historical records of witch trials with the goal of proving that the Catholic Church had used the trials to eliminate the German heritage.[2][3] This prompted Stuart Clark to dub the Nazi regime "Europe's first and only 'pro-witch' government."[4] One pamphlet, 1935's The Christian Witch-Craze,[5] claimed that the witch-hunts were an attempt to exterminate "Aryan womanhood".
 

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And contrary to what you may have heard, there were Jews who originally supported Hitler.
And contrary to what you believe, Jews aren't a monolithic group with identical political beliefs.

To low information voters, Hitler would have seemed a reasonable alternative to other Weimar alternatives.

It's safe to say any Jew who did support Hitler when his plans started going forward, didn't do so as an openly Jewish person.
And neither are all people who label themselves or a labeled by others "christian" (a monolithic group). And certainly, many people can be taken in by a forgery ----- but certainly not if they personally study the Bible and seek to know the truth... The truth sets one free.
The Bible was compiled from around 400 ad from a selection of old manuscripts. What makes you think that each and every one of them was any more factual and 'true', than the works of William Shakespeare?
Shakespeare made more dirty jokes.
 
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And contrary to what you may have heard, there were Jews who originally supported Hitler.
And contrary to what you believe, Jews aren't a monolithic group with identical political beliefs.

To low information voters, Hitler would have seemed a reasonable alternative to other Weimar alternatives.

It's safe to say any Jew who did support Hitler when his plans started going forward, didn't do so as an openly Jewish person.
And neither are all people who label themselves or a labeled by others "christian" (a monolithic group). And certainly, many people can be taken in by a forgery ----- but certainly not if they personally study the Bible and seek to know the truth... The truth sets one free.
The Bible was compiled from around 400 ad from a selection of old manuscripts. What makes you think that each and every one of them was any more factual and 'true', than the works of William Shakespeare?
This is entirely wrong. What we call the OLD TESTAMENT was totally established when Jesus read and discussed it in the Temple at Jerusalem at age 12. The NEW TESTAMENT's last book (Revelation) was written about 95 AD. Most all the other books were written within 45 years of the death and resurrection of Jesus the Christ. Clearly, it was some time before that cannon was set. They (the works) all agree and the writers had firsthand knowledge (brought back to mind by the HOLY SPIRIT) being in some cases half brothers of Jesus or Apostles or they were someone who worked with an Apostle firsthand.
 

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And contrary to what you may have heard, there were Jews who originally supported Hitler.
And contrary to what you believe, Jews aren't a monolithic group with identical political beliefs.

To low information voters, Hitler would have seemed a reasonable alternative to other Weimar alternatives.

It's safe to say any Jew who did support Hitler when his plans started going forward, didn't do so as an openly Jewish person.
And neither are all people who label themselves or a labeled by others "christian" (a monolithic group). And certainly, many people can be taken in by a forgery ----- but certainly not if they personally study the Bible and seek to know the truth... The truth sets one free.
The Bible was compiled from around 400 ad from a selection of old manuscripts. What makes you think that each and every one of them was any more factual and 'true', than the works of William Shakespeare?
Shakespeare made more dirty jokes.
Did he?
How do you know? I can remember listening to his works and had difficulty understanding half of what was being said.
Old English of what 400 years ago is pretty much like a foreign language.
So how they think the Bible is accurate, that was written not just in a myriad of languages, but ancient languages and translated several times, I don't know.
I admit though I did like Shakespeare's 'Merchant of Venice'. Thought that Jewish merchant guy 'Shylock', was really cool, trying to cut the tits off that Christian guy who owed him a few quid. Meek & mild? Na - he didn't take any shit!
 

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Old English of what 400 years ago is pretty much like a foreign language.
Old English like the language of 'Beowulf' is a completely foreign language. Elizabethan English is actually quite understandable if you get to know it.
 

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Old English of what 400 years ago is pretty much like a foreign language.
Old English like the language of 'Beowulf' is a completely foreign language. Elizabethan English is actually quite understandable if you get to know it.
Well when I was 9 it wasn't.
I can't speak to the quality of a state comprehensive school education. But, you should try again. There is more to your heritage than Benny Hill.
 

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I believe Hitler was trying to encourage the return of pagan Norse gods.
No.......

Back then mixing in mythism and other cultish beliefs in with chrisitianity was a cultural thing of that time for Germans, Americans, Brits and others..........the Germans like the others were still christians though and in fact the catholic church was the only reason why Hitler was able to come to power.
 

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Well, it seems he was. He obviously had love for the fake messiah.
And you guys saying he isnt for murdering people is a fallacy. God ordered genocide. Hell, even on infants, for simply having a father that believed in something different(see hitler and jews) or sucking a dick(see Hitler and homos)
 

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One of Hitler's biggest financial supporters in the very early days was a Jew.
It was the business community that put Hitler in power including Jews, because instability in Germany threatened a communist take over - they would lose everything.
By the time he came to power the particular Jew who helped them was owed so much money, and by that time they'd found out he was a Jew, and his shot up body was found in a hedge after the 'Night of the long knives'.
Leading politicians and the business community all thought he would soften the anti-Semitism once in power, and they could control him. Wrong!
Hitler was INSANE! So the question in the OP is non applicable.
During that time and before, the catholic church taught LUTHERISM----which was basically that Jews murdered Jesus day in and day out. But Hitler did have jewish friends and liked jews to some degree UNTILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.....................................................his beloved catholic mothers death. She got sick, I don't remember from what exactly but I think some form of cancer right off the top of my head. And a JEWISH doctor was called.............................she died horribly and in much pain. Hitler blamed the jewish doctor and outwardly hated all jews after.
 

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