Was HITLER a Christian indeed?

[K9Buck]

Couple of things.

Anyone running for office in the 20th century had to claim to be a Christian to have any chance of winning.

I am confident that mass- murderers, such as Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc., were demonically possessed. I believe that Satan, who is the supreme demon, rewards those that serve him with success, power, wealth and glory. And then he claims their souls (or attempts to) when they die. If you think that's rubbish, why then are the vast majority of Hollywood-types Godless, leftists?

 

[Picaro]

One of Hitler's biggest financial supporters in the very early days was a Jew.
It was the business community that put Hitler in power including Jews, because instability in Germany threatened a communist take over - they would lose everything.
By the time he came to power the particular Jew who helped them was owed so much money, and by that time they'd found out he was a Jew, and his shot up body was found in a hedge after the 'Night of the long knives'.
Leading politicians and the business community all thought he would soften the anti-Semitism once in power, and they could control him. Wrong!
Hitler was INSANE! So the question in the OP is non applicable.

During that time and before, the catholic church taught LUTHERISM----which was basically that Jews murdered Jesus day in and day out. But Hitler did have jewish friends and liked jews to some degree UNTILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.....................................................his beloved catholic mothers death. She got sick, I don't remember from what exactly but I think some form of cancer right off the top of my head. And a JEWISH doctor was called.............................she died horribly and in much pain. Hitler blamed the jewish doctor and outwardly hated all jews after.

It's comforting to think that Hitler was somehow more antisemitic than anyone else in 1930s Europe.

In fact, Hitler was merely repeating what has been the dogma of European thought for nearly 2,000 years.

Hitler had enemies in France, England, and many other European countries. But ... the one thing they did see eye-to-eye with Hitler was his theories about Jews.

Even when Paris was occupied by The Nazis, the areas of Free France were more than willing to ship Jews in their territories back to Germany. England too sent Jewish refugees back to Germany, knowing they would immediately be sent to concentration camps. Poles, and other Eastern Europeans actively assisted the Nazis in hunting down and killing Jews even with their countries occupied by Nazis.

It's a fact that antisemitism in Europe was (and in many places still is) as natural as breathing.

What you are saying is totally untrue. You have never lived in Europe or the UK. Jews are not and have never in modern times been discriminated against in the UK. As for the Vichy French - they were fascists as were the Ukrainians who actually manned the guard posts at Sobibor and Treblinka. Latvian, Lithuanian, Estonian, Polish, Rumanian & Hungarian etc Nationalist/fascists did support Hitler, though as in the case of the Ukraine, Goring's visit declaring them to be treated as slaves tended to turn a lot of them. Slovakia actually paid the Nazis to also take Jewish children after they'd taken their parents.
Britain had Mosley;s 'black shirts' who were a tiny group and usually got beaten up when staging rally's.
Britain's immigration policy was far more lenient than that of the US. Gerry Springer, Ruby Wax, Marianne Faithful. Names you may have heard of, were all taken in by Britain. Read about the 'Kinder Transports'.
Every country has its Right Wing/Nationalist/Fascists. In Britain they are a tiny minority.

While the made up rubbish of 'being persecuted for 2,000 years by Da Evul Xians' is mostly fiction, the fact that most of Europe's peasants hated Jews because of their privileged positions with Europe's aristocrats, including Catholic bishops and Popes, and whenever the peasants and tradesmen rioted over taxes and fees and commodities monopolies they also went after Jews who bought offices from the kings and nobility. The plundering of eastern Europe's peasants was particularly brutal during the 30 Years' War era, and such plunder is remembered for a long long time; think of Northern Ireland and the political effects of the Great Famine, when the Irish nobles were exporting massive amounts of food to Germany and its famines because it brought good prices there while the Irish peasants died by the millions from starvation when the potato crops failed. The mentally deranged 'Social Darwinists' of today are still completely mystified as to why peasants would revolt and hate laissez faire economics, of course.

It was mostly political, not 'antisemitic', but the apologists know the facts aren't nearly as kind so they invented the 'Hapless Jewish Victims' fables. After the 18th Century Jewish intellectuals had their own 'Enlightenment', and most of that went away; many Jews were Christians, like Disraeli and others, and after their 'Enlightenment' they became scientists and writers, practically inventing the entire science of Biochemistry, for instance, and became prominent donors to universities and charities all over Europe, as the Rotheschilds and other families did in England and France and Austria.

One of the ironies of the rise of the Nazis and their propoganda machine is that the Jewish bankers, at least in America, almost to a man supported the Germans in WW I, because of their hatred of Russia. This in turn generated a lot of backlash and mistrust here, and among many of the recent waves of eastern European immigrants who were still not assimilated by the time WW I came along The Nazis had to lie about them in their propaganda re their 'destruction' of Germany and the German people. In any case, the Jews of eastern Europe weren't in any position to 'ruin Germany', and the Holocaust was just mindless mass psychosis.

 

[fncceo]

While the made up rubbish of 'being persecuted for 2,000 years by Da Evul Xians' is mostly fiction

 

[Oz and the Orchestra]

While the made up rubbish of 'being persecuted for 2,000 years by Da Evul Xians' is mostly fiction

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You have a very dark picture library fncco, Is it the product of a 'dark' mind?

They don't look too disappointed considering their being burnt alive, in fact, the guy and woman in the foreground look to be having a right old merry chinwag.

 

[K9Buck]

The Jews have been persecuted ever since God said that they were his "chosen" people. Aside from Jesus, Satan hates Jews more than any other. As such, Satan and his demons have influenced people to persecute and to destroy the Jews. If you don't believe that, then please explain why Hitler and his Nazi goons were obsessed with killing as many Jews as possible, even when they knew they were going to lose the war?

Or, explain to me how the U.N. has sanctioned Israel perhaps more times than all other nations combined?

Is it just a freak coincidence and the Jews are simply unlucky? Or is it true that there are dark forces compelling people to hate and harm Jews?

 

[BreezeWood]

Hitler ordered the death of ten million in concentration camps and started a war that killed 50 million.

So, no.

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christians are such liars ... hitler and trump are one in the same -
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where hitler got the idea .... they do it for enjoyment, not a remorse from a single one of them.

 

[BreezeWood]

And contrary to what you may have heard, there were Jews who originally supported Hitler.

And contrary to what you believe, Jews aren't a monolithic group with identical political beliefs.

To low information voters, Hitler would have seemed a reasonable alternative to other Weimar alternatives.

It's safe to say any Jew who did support Hitler when his plans started going forward, didn't do so as an openly Jewish person.

And neither are all people who label themselves or a labeled by others "christian" (a monolithic group). And certainly, many people can be taken in by a forgery ----- but certainly not if they personally study the Bible and seek to know the truth... The truth sets one free.

The Bible was compiled from around 400 ad from a selection of old manuscripts. What makes you think that each and every one of them was any more factual and 'true', than the works of William Shakespeare?

This is entirely wrong. What we call the OLD TESTAMENT was totally established when Jesus read and discussed it in the Temple at Jerusalem at age 12. The NEW TESTAMENT's last book (Revelation) was written about 95 AD. Most all the other books were written within 45 years of the death and resurrection of Jesus the Christ. Clearly, it was some time before that cannon was set. They (the works) all agree and the writers had firsthand knowledge (brought back to mind by the HOLY SPIRIT) being in some cases half brothers of Jesus or Apostles or they were someone who worked with an Apostle firsthand.

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Clearly, it was some time before that cannon was set.

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you keep denying history -
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Christianity in the 4th century was dominated in its early stage by Constantine the great and the First Council of Nicaea of 325, which was the beginning of the period of the First seven Ecumenical Councils (325–787), and in its late stage by the Edict of Thessalonica of 380, which made Nicene Christianity the state church of the Roman Empire.
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they spent a century writing your christian bible for the purpose to establish the religion of the roman empire - their objective.

using a religious itinerant from the 1st century they completely altered to suit their political objectives.

 

[Oz and the Orchestra]

The Jews have been persecuted ever since God said that they were his "chosen" people. Aside from Jesus, Satan hates Jews more than any other. As such, Satan and his demons have influenced people to persecute and to destroy the Jews. If you don't believe that, then please explain why Hitler and his Nazi goons were obsessed with killing as many Jews as possible, even when they knew they were going to lose the war?

Or, explain to me how the U.N. has sanctioned Israel perhaps more times than all other nations combined?

Is it just a freak coincidence and the Jews are simply unlucky? Or is it true that there are dark forces compelling people to hate and harm Jews?

You right-wingers are all the same - it's always someone else's fault.
Man doesn't need Satan to tell him to do evil, Man is quite capable to do evil without any help or encouragement from anybody.
Romans murdered Christians, Christians murdered Muslims, Christain Catholics murdered Protestants, Protestants murdered Catholics, Nazi'z murdered Jews & Gypsy's, Israeli's murdered Palestinians.

Some men/women are fundamentally evil, we define them as right-wing.

 

[K9Buck]

The Jews have been persecuted ever since God said that they were his "chosen" people. Aside from Jesus, Satan hates Jews more than any other. As such, Satan and his demons have influenced people to persecute and to destroy the Jews. If you don't believe that, then please explain why Hitler and his Nazi goons were obsessed with killing as many Jews as possible, even when they knew they were going to lose the war?

Or, explain to me how the U.N. has sanctioned Israel perhaps more times than all other nations combined?

Is it just a freak coincidence and the Jews are simply unlucky? Or is it true that there are dark forces compelling people to hate and harm Jews?

You right-wingers are all the same - it's always someone else's fault.
Man doesn't need Satan to tell him to do evil, Man is quite capable to do evil without any help or encouragement from anybody.
Romans murdered Christians, Christians murdered Muslims, Christain Catholics murdered Protestants, Protestants murdered Catholics, Nazi'z murdered Jews & Gypsy's, Israeli's murdered Palestinians.

Some men/women are fundamentally evil, we define them as right-wing.

Fascism is left-wing. It entails rejection of free-market capitalism in favor of an economy managed by the government, similar to communism and socialism, except that fascism permits private ownership but are beholden to do the bidding of the government. As well, fascism, like socialism and communism, reject the concept of individual rights in favor of a collective.

The antifa thugs running wild across some parts of Europe and the U.S. are spitting images of the Nazy Brown Shirts of the 20's and 30's. They love fascism, as long as it's not called fascism.

 

[Oz and the Orchestra]

The Jews have been persecuted ever since God said that they were his "chosen" people. Aside from Jesus, Satan hates Jews more than any other. As such, Satan and his demons have influenced people to persecute and to destroy the Jews. If you don't believe that, then please explain why Hitler and his Nazi goons were obsessed with killing as many Jews as possible, even when they knew they were going to lose the war?

Or, explain to me how the U.N. has sanctioned Israel perhaps more times than all other nations combined?

Is it just a freak coincidence and the Jews are simply unlucky? Or is it true that there are dark forces compelling people to hate and harm Jews?

You right-wingers are all the same - it's always someone else's fault.
Man doesn't need Satan to tell him to do evil, Man is quite capable to do evil without any help or encouragement from anybody.
Romans murdered Christians, Christians murdered Muslims, Christain Catholics murdered Protestants, Protestants murdered Catholics, Nazi'z murdered Jews & Gypsy's, Israeli's murdered Palestinians.

Some men/women are fundamentally evil, we define them as right-wing.

Fascism is left-wing. It entails rejection of free-market capitalism in favor of an economy managed by the government, similar to communism and socialism, except that fascism permits private ownership but are beholden to do the bidding of the government. As well, fascism, like socialism and communism, reject the concept of individual rights in favor of a collective.

The antifa thugs running wild across some parts of Europe and the U.S. are spitting images of the Nazy Brown Shirts of the 20's and 30's. They love fascism, as long as it's not called fascism.

BOLLOCKS!

 

[K9Buck]

The Jews have been persecuted ever since God said that they were his "chosen" people. Aside from Jesus, Satan hates Jews more than any other. As such, Satan and his demons have influenced people to persecute and to destroy the Jews. If you don't believe that, then please explain why Hitler and his Nazi goons were obsessed with killing as many Jews as possible, even when they knew they were going to lose the war?

Or, explain to me how the U.N. has sanctioned Israel perhaps more times than all other nations combined?

Is it just a freak coincidence and the Jews are simply unlucky? Or is it true that there are dark forces compelling people to hate and harm Jews?

You right-wingers are all the same - it's always someone else's fault.
Man doesn't need Satan to tell him to do evil, Man is quite capable to do evil without any help or encouragement from anybody.
Romans murdered Christians, Christians murdered Muslims, Christain Catholics murdered Protestants, Protestants murdered Catholics, Nazi'z murdered Jews & Gypsy's, Israeli's murdered Palestinians.

Some men/women are fundamentally evil, we define them as right-wing.

Fascism is left-wing. It entails rejection of free-market capitalism in favor of an economy managed by the government, similar to communism and socialism, except that fascism permits private ownership but are beholden to do the bidding of the government. As well, fascism, like socialism and communism, reject the concept of individual rights in favor of a collective.

The antifa thugs running wild across some parts of Europe and the U.S. are spitting images of the Nazy Brown Shirts of the 20's and 30's. They love fascism, as long as it's not called fascism.

BOLLOCKS!

You wish.

If fascism is right-wing, why then did much of the western left, including American president FDR, swoon over Mussolini?

 

[Oz and the Orchestra]

The Jews have been persecuted ever since God said that they were his "chosen" people. Aside from Jesus, Satan hates Jews more than any other. As such, Satan and his demons have influenced people to persecute and to destroy the Jews. If you don't believe that, then please explain why Hitler and his Nazi goons were obsessed with killing as many Jews as possible, even when they knew they were going to lose the war?

Or, explain to me how the U.N. has sanctioned Israel perhaps more times than all other nations combined?

Is it just a freak coincidence and the Jews are simply unlucky? Or is it true that there are dark forces compelling people to hate and harm Jews?

You right-wingers are all the same - it's always someone else's fault.
Man doesn't need Satan to tell him to do evil, Man is quite capable to do evil without any help or encouragement from anybody.
Romans murdered Christians, Christians murdered Muslims, Christain Catholics murdered Protestants, Protestants murdered Catholics, Nazi'z murdered Jews & Gypsy's, Israeli's murdered Palestinians.

Some men/women are fundamentally evil, we define them as right-wing.

Fascism is left-wing. It entails rejection of free-market capitalism in favor of an economy managed by the government, similar to communism and socialism, except that fascism permits private ownership but are beholden to do the bidding of the government. As well, fascism, like socialism and communism, reject the concept of individual rights in favor of a collective.

The antifa thugs running wild across some parts of Europe and the U.S. are spitting images of the Nazy Brown Shirts of the 20's and 30's. They love fascism, as long as it's not called fascism.

BOLLOCKS!

You wish.

If fascism is right-wing, why then did much of the western left, including American president FDR, swoon over Mussolini?

They didn't!

 

[K9Buck]

The Jews have been persecuted ever since God said that they were his "chosen" people. Aside from Jesus, Satan hates Jews more than any other. As such, Satan and his demons have influenced people to persecute and to destroy the Jews. If you don't believe that, then please explain why Hitler and his Nazi goons were obsessed with killing as many Jews as possible, even when they knew they were going to lose the war?

Or, explain to me how the U.N. has sanctioned Israel perhaps more times than all other nations combined?

Is it just a freak coincidence and the Jews are simply unlucky? Or is it true that there are dark forces compelling people to hate and harm Jews?

You right-wingers are all the same - it's always someone else's fault.
Man doesn't need Satan to tell him to do evil, Man is quite capable to do evil without any help or encouragement from anybody.
Romans murdered Christians, Christians murdered Muslims, Christain Catholics murdered Protestants, Protestants murdered Catholics, Nazi'z murdered Jews & Gypsy's, Israeli's murdered Palestinians.

Some men/women are fundamentally evil, we define them as right-wing.

Fascism is left-wing. It entails rejection of free-market capitalism in favor of an economy managed by the government, similar to communism and socialism, except that fascism permits private ownership but are beholden to do the bidding of the government. As well, fascism, like socialism and communism, reject the concept of individual rights in favor of a collective.

The antifa thugs running wild across some parts of Europe and the U.S. are spitting images of the Nazy Brown Shirts of the 20's and 30's. They love fascism, as long as it's not called fascism.

BOLLOCKS!

You wish.

If fascism is right-wing, why then did much of the western left, including American president FDR, swoon over Mussolini?

They didn't!

Google "FDR and Mussolini". You're welcome.

 

[Oz and the Orchestra]

I think the thread asks whether Hitler was a Christian?
FDR and Mussolini?
Why not ask about why Trump admires Kim Jong Un, Putin, and the Marquis de Sard.

 

[LittleNipper]

I think the thread asks whether Hitler was a Christian?
FDR and Mussolini?
Why not ask about why Trump admires Kim Jong Un, Putin, and the Marquis de Sard.

I don't believe Trump wishes to be like any of them.

 

[Picaro]

While the made up rubbish of 'being persecuted for 2,000 years by Da Evul Xians' is mostly fiction

View attachment 399126

You have a very dark picture library fncco, Is it the product of a 'dark' mind?

They don't look too disappointed considering their being burnt alive, in fact, the guy and woman in the foreground look to be having a right old merry chinwag.

The Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox hate Da Evul Xians because they became successful and stole a lot of the membership away from them and their post-exilic Babylonian hardcore racist BS and cost them a lot of money and power, so after losing their wars against Rome they needed somebody to blame for their own dumbassery. They decided that feeding their children scare stories about Da Evul Xians was the brilliant thing to do, and then siding with Muslims later on in their wars against the West was even more brilliant n stuff. They spent some 700 years raking in the Big Bucks for themselves and their Muslim allies in Spain, for instance, but according to them that was 'Oppression N Stuff'; the Inquisition was pretty tame stuff compared to what they subjected those they helped Muslims conquer, but the fact that the Xians finally took the place back is supposed to be a big giant 'Injustice' or something, never mind they were given the same deals as their Muslim buddies got, convert or leave; don't recall Muslims ever making that choice available to Da Evul Xians but then the Orthodox or so 'Speshul' in their minds it's just insulting that some lowly goy would dare to even address them in such a disrespectful manner.

Same elsewhere, they made themselves so useful to the political establishment that most of the natives despised them; didn't seem to bother them in the least, but then they whined when the inevitable political upheavals and riots came along. Now, after all the centuries of Xian bashing and hate mongering, mocking the crucifixion and 'blood worship' of Xians, they now suddenly adopt the hypocritical view that the 'blood sacrificce' of the Holocaust has cleansed them of all past sins and no objective unflattering facts about their history are permissible or allowed. Some here are still offended that the despicable Xians didn't let the Spanish Jews leave with the 700 years of plunder in their pockets; they think it was 'unfair' or something, never mind whose tables they were taking food off of all those centuries. Those that left Spain found plenty of places to go, the Papal States took in some 14,000 or so, against the wishes of the local Jews already there, some 20,000 went to Salmonelika, where they made weapons for the Ottomans, many more went to France, The Netherlands, Germany, etc. Don't recall the average European peasant being allowed that kind of mobility anywhere, so when you hear all these isolated pity party stories keep in mind they weren't treated all that bad compared to others. They fared better than most in general.

 

[Picaro]

The Jews have been persecuted ever since God said that they were his "chosen" people. Aside from Jesus, Satan hates Jews more than any other. As such, Satan and his demons have influenced people to persecute and to destroy the Jews. If you don't believe that, then please explain why Hitler and his Nazi goons were obsessed with killing as many Jews as possible, even when they knew they were going to lose the war?

Or, explain to me how the U.N. has sanctioned Israel perhaps more times than all other nations combined?

Is it just a freak coincidence and the Jews are simply unlucky? Or is it true that there are dark forces compelling people to hate and harm Jews?

You right-wingers are all the same - it's always someone else's fault.
Man doesn't need Satan to tell him to do evil, Man is quite capable to do evil without any help or encouragement from anybody.
Romans murdered Christians, Christians murdered Muslims, Christain Catholics murdered Protestants, Protestants murdered Catholics, Nazi'z murdered Jews & Gypsy's, Israeli's murdered Palestinians.

Some men/women are fundamentally evil, we define them as right-wing.

Of course none of it was on the scale of those murdered by the 'rational constructionists', atheists and pagans like Hitler, Stalin, and Mao. Doesn't matter if you personally 'redefine' them as 'right wing' or not, we all know they're left wingers.

 

[LittleNipper]

The Jews have been persecuted ever since God said that they were his "chosen" people. Aside from Jesus, Satan hates Jews more than any other. As such, Satan and his demons have influenced people to persecute and to destroy the Jews. If you don't believe that, then please explain why Hitler and his Nazi goons were obsessed with killing as many Jews as possible, even when they knew they were going to lose the war?

Or, explain to me how the U.N. has sanctioned Israel perhaps more times than all other nations combined?

Is it just a freak coincidence and the Jews are simply unlucky? Or is it true that there are dark forces compelling people to hate and harm Jews?

You right-wingers are all the same - it's always someone else's fault.
Man doesn't need Satan to tell him to do evil, Man is quite capable to do evil without any help or encouragement from anybody.
Romans murdered Christians, Christians murdered Muslims, Christain Catholics murdered Protestants, Protestants murdered Catholics, Nazi'z murdered Jews & Gypsy's, Israeli's murdered Palestinians.

Some men/women are fundamentally evil, we define them as right-wing.

Fascism is left-wing. It entails rejection of free-market capitalism in favor of an economy managed by the government, similar to communism and socialism, except that fascism permits private ownership but are beholden to do the bidding of the government. As well, fascism, like socialism and communism, reject the concept of individual rights in favor of a collective.

The antifa thugs running wild across some parts of Europe and the U.S. are spitting images of the Nazy Brown Shirts of the 20's and 30's. They love fascism, as long as it's not called fascism.

BOLLOCKS!

You wish.

If fascism is right-wing, why then did much of the western left, including American president FDR, swoon over Mussolini?

They didn't!

You may just wish to read the following. Opinions do have a tendency to change with events: America's Changing View of Mussolini and Italian Fascism

 

[BreezeWood]

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The Jews have been persecuted ever since God said that they were his "chosen" people. Aside from Jesus, Satan hates Jews more than any other. As such, Satan and his demons have influenced people to persecute and to destroy the Jews. If you don't believe that, then please explain why Hitler and his Nazi goons were obsessed with killing as many Jews as possible, even when they knew they were going to lose the war?

Or, explain to me how the U.N. has sanctioned Israel perhaps more times than all other nations combined?

Is it just a freak coincidence and the Jews are simply unlucky? Or is it true that there are dark forces compelling people to hate and harm Jews?

You right-wingers are all the same - it's always someone else's fault.
Man doesn't need Satan to tell him to do evil, Man is quite capable to do evil without any help or encouragement from anybody.
Romans murdered Christians, Christians murdered Muslims, Christain Catholics murdered Protestants, Protestants murdered Catholics, Nazi'z murdered Jews & Gypsy's, Israeli's murdered Palestinians.

Some men/women are fundamentally evil, we define them as right-wing.

Of course none of it was on the scale of those murdered by the 'rational constructionists', atheists and pagans like Hitler, Stalin, and Mao. Doesn't matter if you personally 'redefine' them as 'right wing' or not, we all know they're left wingers.

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Of course none of it was on the scale of those murdered by the 'rational constructionists', atheists and pagans like Hitler, Stalin, and Mao. Doesn't matter if you personally 'redefine' them as 'right wing' or not, we all know they're left wingers.

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and how long a period are you referring - less than a 100 years ... for all of them combined leaving out your man hitler.

the desert religions historically use murder in limited examples for persuasion to enhance their goals of ideological suppression and states of tyranny over long periods of time, centuries to control individuals and their lives for nefarious purposes all disguised as religion with a divine origin. - picaro in a nutshell.

 

[K9Buck]

I think the thread asks whether Hitler was a Christian?
FDR and Mussolini?
Why not ask about why Trump admires Kim Jong Un, Putin, and the Marquis de Sard.

Leftist atheists like you always run from the truth and never acknowledge it. Fascism is a left-wing ideology. Anyway, you're a disingenuous troll.