Warren Commission was correct........Oswald acted alone

[Soupnazi630]

Oswald never shot Tippet and eye witnesses said it was someone of a stocky build that did it and it is my belief that it was G Gordon Liddy that had to kill Tippet to use as a body double after how badly the assassins failed to hit Kennedy in the back of the head. Tippet had an uncanny resemblance to JFK and his nickname around the station was "Jack" which was used as a derogatory dig at Tippet as he wasn't all that popular within the ranks and they didn't like JFK. Unfortunately for the cabal, in the excitement of the moment, Liddy shot Tippet on the right hand side of the head just like what happened to JFK. It was Tippet's body that Jacqueline Kennedy and Robert Kennedy saw after the plane landed at Bethesda. Jacqueline said it didn't look anything like JFK and something out of Madame Tussaud's wax museum. Tippet's body was taken to Methodist hospital where he was declared dead and then whisked away to Parkland hospital....why is that?

that first sentence along proves he did not do it. dont forget to mention as well the shell casings at the scene did not match oswalds gun.

There is speculation that the CIA killed Tippit to use his body as a double. As Dale stated, why would they whisk Tippit's body to Parkland?

Some speculate that Tippit's body is interned at Arlington.

No such speculation exists. What you are describing is delusion.

It is normal to whisk a body to the hospital after a shooting. Tippit could not stand in as a double for Kennedy they had little resemblance.

You lie again. Why?

Tippit's body was taken to Methodist Hospital after he was murdered by your CIA buddies. He was dead....why move his body to Parkland???

Tippit had a very strong resemblance to JFK and was commonly called JFK or Jack by coworkers at the Dallas PD.

You have no credibility here.

STOP POSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Because Parkland has a morgue

Such things are common.

Not all hospitals are the same and the simplest explanation is the correct one as always.

 

[gipper]

that first sentence along proves he did not do it. dont forget to mention as well the shell casings at the scene did not match oswalds gun.

There is speculation that the CIA killed Tippit to use his body as a double. As Dale stated, why would they whisk Tippit's body to Parkland?

Some speculate that Tippit's body is interned at Arlington.

No such speculation exists. What you are describing is delusion.

It is normal to whisk a body to the hospital after a shooting. Tippit could not stand in as a double for Kennedy they had little resemblance.

You lie again. Why?

Tippit's body was taken to Methodist Hospital after he was murdered by your CIA buddies. He was dead....why move his body to Parkland???

Tippit had a very strong resemblance to JFK and was commonly called JFK or Jack by coworkers at the Dallas PD.

You have no credibility here.

STOP POSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Because Parkland has a morgue

Such things are common.

Not all hospitals are the same and the simplest explanation is the correct one as always.

Yes the simplest explanation is the CIA killed JFK because he was planning to terminate them.

 

[rightwinger]

There is speculation that the CIA killed Tippit to use his body as a double. As Dale stated, why would they whisk Tippit's body to Parkland?

Some speculate that Tippit's body is interned at Arlington.

No such speculation exists. What you are describing is delusion.

It is normal to whisk a body to the hospital after a shooting. Tippit could not stand in as a double for Kennedy they had little resemblance.

You lie again. Why?

Tippit's body was taken to Methodist Hospital after he was murdered by your CIA buddies. He was dead....why move his body to Parkland???

Tippit had a very strong resemblance to JFK and was commonly called JFK or Jack by coworkers at the Dallas PD.

You have no credibility here.

STOP POSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Because Parkland has a morgue

Such things are common.

Not all hospitals are the same and the simplest explanation is the correct one as always.

Yes the simplest explanation is the CIA killed JFK because he was planning to terminate them.

Interesting theory

You have any proof that JFK proposed terminating the CIA?

 

[LaDexter]

The answer is found here....

CIA Analysis of the 1967 Arab-Israeli War — Central Intelligence Agency


"Helms was awakened at 3:00 in the morning on 5 June by a call from the CIA Operations Center. The Foreign Broadcast Information Service had picked up reports that Israel had launched its attack. (OCI soon concluded that the Israelis— contrary to their claims—had fired first.) President Johnson was gratified that because of CIA analyses and Helms's tip, he could inform congressional leaders later in the day that he had been expecting Israel's move."

and then LBJ got on TV and lied, claiming Israel was attacked and was just defending itself....



JFK was offed for not sending arms to Israel in exchange for the uber favorable media coverage he got in 1960. LBJ started sending them as soon as he was sworn in. Vietnam was just an opportunity to run our war factories and give the new weapons to Israel. Our troops in 'nam never got the weapons the taxpayer paid for, Israel did free of charge.

 

[rightwinger]

The answer is found here....

CIA Analysis of the 1967 Arab-Israeli War — Central Intelligence Agency


"Helms was awakened at 3:00 in the morning on 5 June by a call from the CIA Operations Center. The Foreign Broadcast Information Service had picked up reports that Israel had launched its attack. (OCI soon concluded that the Israelis— contrary to their claims—had fired first.) President Johnson was gratified that because of CIA analyses and Helms's tip, he could inform congressional leaders later in the day that he had been expecting Israel's move."

and then LBJ got on TV and lied, claiming Israel was attacked and was just defending itself....



JFK was offed for not sending arms to Israel in exchange for the uber favorable media coverage he got in 1960. LBJ started sending them as soon as he was sworn in. Vietnam was just an opportunity to run our war factories and give the new weapons to Israel. Our troops in 'nam never got the weapons the taxpayer paid for, Israel did free of charge.

What does that have to do with an assassination in 1963?

 

[Soupnazi630]

There is speculation that the CIA killed Tippit to use his body as a double. As Dale stated, why would they whisk Tippit's body to Parkland?

Some speculate that Tippit's body is interned at Arlington.

No such speculation exists. What you are describing is delusion.

It is normal to whisk a body to the hospital after a shooting. Tippit could not stand in as a double for Kennedy they had little resemblance.

You lie again. Why?

Tippit's body was taken to Methodist Hospital after he was murdered by your CIA buddies. He was dead....why move his body to Parkland???

Tippit had a very strong resemblance to JFK and was commonly called JFK or Jack by coworkers at the Dallas PD.

You have no credibility here.

STOP POSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Because Parkland has a morgue

Such things are common.

Not all hospitals are the same and the simplest explanation is the correct one as always.

Yes the simplest explanation is the CIA killed JFK because he was planning to terminate them.

He never planned to terminate them and that is an asurdly complex and stupid explanation.

Especially since you have no evidence of any kind to support such a claim. Now where is your evidence and in the mean time cite a passage from the Warren Commission which is a lie or fabrication and provide evidence of your claim.

 

[Soupnazi630]

The answer is found here....

CIA Analysis of the 1967 Arab-Israeli War — Central Intelligence Agency


"Helms was awakened at 3:00 in the morning on 5 June by a call from the CIA Operations Center. The Foreign Broadcast Information Service had picked up reports that Israel had launched its attack. (OCI soon concluded that the Israelis— contrary to their claims—had fired first.) President Johnson was gratified that because of CIA analyses and Helms's tip, he could inform congressional leaders later in the day that he had been expecting Israel's move."

and then LBJ got on TV and lied, claiming Israel was attacked and was just defending itself....



JFK was offed for not sending arms to Israel in exchange for the uber favorable media coverage he got in 1960. LBJ started sending them as soon as he was sworn in. Vietnam was just an opportunity to run our war factories and give the new weapons to Israel. Our troops in 'nam never got the weapons the taxpayer paid for, Israel did free of charge.

Oswald killed kennedy and never gave a damn about Israel so your fantasy is ludicrous.

 

[Soupnazi630]

No such speculation exists. What you are describing is delusion.

It is normal to whisk a body to the hospital after a shooting. Tippit could not stand in as a double for Kennedy they had little resemblance.

You lie again. Why?

Tippit's body was taken to Methodist Hospital after he was murdered by your CIA buddies. He was dead....why move his body to Parkland???

Tippit had a very strong resemblance to JFK and was commonly called JFK or Jack by coworkers at the Dallas PD.

You have no credibility here.

STOP POSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Because Parkland has a morgue

Such things are common.

Not all hospitals are the same and the simplest explanation is the correct one as always.

Yes the simplest explanation is the CIA killed JFK because he was planning to terminate them.

Interesting theory

You have any proof that JFK proposed terminating the CIA?

You stop it now you are breaking the rules.

Gipper is the only one permitted to ask for evidence. No one is permitted to challenge him by asking for any.

 

[Dale Smith]

Lol, did you get tired of the usual arguments and decided to stir up the crazies?

The simplest explanation is the most likely

After 50 years you still can’t refute it

It has been refuted many times over. Your lack of critical thinking skills is the proverbial millstone around your neck.

It never has been refuted.

The evidence is overwhelming and unchallenged that Oswald acted alone.

Please cite the overwhelming evidence.

Been done already. His rifle with his prints, the expended shells exclusively fired through his rifle with his prints, all recovered bullets and bullet fragments exclusively fired through his rifle. The paper bag he used to smuggle the rifle in claiming it was curtain rods which was an effective and logical lie. Fibers on the bag matched to the blanket he kept the rifle wrapped in while storing it. The autopsy evidence conducted by experienced experts which proved all the wounds originated from above and behind which is consistent with his perch. The fact that it is proven he shot Tippet and is the only person in Dallas to shoot a cop in attempt to avoid apprehension. The fact that he is the only TSBD employee to flee.

The vast majority of witnesses to the crime who support and are in synch with all of that evidence.

None of your political opinions about the government being corrupt challenges that evidence. Opinions mean NOTHING.

SO when asked I can cute evidence.

You have never even TRIED to cite any evidence for your idiotic and delusional claims so NOW stop your childish, hypocritical and idiotic bullshit and cite one passage of the WC commission report which is a lie or fabrication and provide evidence.

As usual, you are wrong, the Warren Commission intentionally never interviewed or had anyone testify in front of the committee that could throw the entire (and neatly wrapped, beforehand) conclusion that it was a lone gunman into question. What I find extremely disturbing is that those that could dispute the absolute lies of the Warren Commission started dropping like flies. The CIA got so nervous about the attitudes of the American people believing that the Warren Commission was full of shit that they put out a memo to plan as to how weaponize the term "Conspiracy Theorist". I guess you can't have the sheeple questioning their beloved "gubermint" because that could cause a BIG problem.

BTW, I want to throw this idea out to ya. There is a poster here (G.T) that has podcast time that many of us listen to. If I were to make a serious donation to his venue to moderate a debate between us, would you be willing to debate me on the air? I mean, you seem so sure of yourself and you are somewhat articulate (even though you struggle mightily with punctuation) that I think the forum here would tune in to hear us debate the JFK deep state murder. No pressure and if you refuse the opportunity to debate in real time? I am sure no one here would think any less of you than they already do.......thoughts?

 

[gipper]

Oswald never shot Tippet and eye witnesses said it was someone of a stocky build that did it and it is my belief that it was G Gordon Liddy that had to kill Tippet to use as a body double after how badly the assassins failed to hit Kennedy in the back of the head. Tippet had an uncanny resemblance to JFK and his nickname around the station was "Jack" which was used as a derogatory dig at Tippet as he wasn't all that popular within the ranks and they didn't like JFK. Unfortunately for the cabal, in the excitement of the moment, Liddy shot Tippet on the right hand side of the head just like what happened to JFK. It was Tippet's body that Jacqueline Kennedy and Robert Kennedy saw after the plane landed at Bethesda. Jacqueline said it didn't look anything like JFK and something out of Madame Tussaud's wax museum. Tippet's body was taken to Methodist hospital where he was declared dead and then whisked away to Parkland hospital....why is that?

that first sentence along proves he did not do it. dont forget to mention as well the shell casings at the scene did not match oswalds gun.

There is speculation that the CIA killed Tippit to use his body as a double. As Dale stated, why would they whisk Tippit's body to Parkland?

Some speculate that Tippit's body is interned at Arlington.

No such speculation exists. What you are describing is delusion.

It is normal to whisk a body to the hospital after a shooting. Tippit could not stand in as a double for Kennedy they had little resemblance.

You lie again. Why?

Tippit's body was taken to Methodist Hospital after he was murdered by your CIA buddies. He was dead....why move his body to Parkland???

Tippit had a very strong resemblance to JFK and was commonly called JFK or Jack by coworkers at the Dallas PD.

You have no credibility here.

STOP POSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Because Parkland has a morgue

Now you are just making shit up as usual.

We lie about what happened if Oswald was really the lone gunman?

 

[gipper]

The simplest explanation is the most likely

After 50 years you still can’t refute it

It has been refuted many times over. Your lack of critical thinking skills is the proverbial millstone around your neck.

It never has been refuted.

The evidence is overwhelming and unchallenged that Oswald acted alone.

Please cite the overwhelming evidence.

Been done already. His rifle with his prints, the expended shells exclusively fired through his rifle with his prints, all recovered bullets and bullet fragments exclusively fired through his rifle. The paper bag he used to smuggle the rifle in claiming it was curtain rods which was an effective and logical lie. Fibers on the bag matched to the blanket he kept the rifle wrapped in while storing it. The autopsy evidence conducted by experienced experts which proved all the wounds originated from above and behind which is consistent with his perch. The fact that it is proven he shot Tippet and is the only person in Dallas to shoot a cop in attempt to avoid apprehension. The fact that he is the only TSBD employee to flee.

The vast majority of witnesses to the crime who support and are in synch with all of that evidence.

None of your political opinions about the government being corrupt challenges that evidence. Opinions mean NOTHING.

SO when asked I can cute evidence.

You have never even TRIED to cite any evidence for your idiotic and delusional claims so NOW stop your childish, hypocritical and idiotic bullshit and cite one passage of the WC commission report which is a lie or fabrication and provide evidence.

As usual, you are wrong, the Warren Commission intentionally never interviewed or had anyone testify in front of the committee that could throw the entire (and neatly wrapped, beforehand) conclusion that it was a lone gunman into question. What I find extremely disturbing is that those that could dispute the absolute lies of the Warren Commission started dropping like flies. The CIA got so nervous about the attitudes of the American people believing that the Warren Commission was full of shit that they put out a memo to plan as to how weaponize the term "Conspiracy Theorist". I guess you can't have the sheeple questioning their beloved "gubermint" because that could cause a BIG problem.

BTW, I want to throw this idea out to ya. There is a poster here (G.T) that has podcast time that many of us listen to. If I were to make a serious donation to his venue to moderate a debate between us, would you be willing to debate me on the air? I mean, you seem so sure of yourself and you are somewhat articulate (even though you struggle mightily with punctuation) that I think the forum here would tune in to hear us debate the JFK deep state murder. No pressure and if you refuse the opportunity to debate in real time? I am sure no one here would think any less of you than they already do.......thoughts?

Great idea Dale, though I doubt he will accept your challenge.

 

[rightwinger]

that first sentence along proves he did not do it. dont forget to mention as well the shell casings at the scene did not match oswalds gun.

There is speculation that the CIA killed Tippit to use his body as a double. As Dale stated, why would they whisk Tippit's body to Parkland?

Some speculate that Tippit's body is interned at Arlington.

No such speculation exists. What you are describing is delusion.

It is normal to whisk a body to the hospital after a shooting. Tippit could not stand in as a double for Kennedy they had little resemblance.

You lie again. Why?

Tippit's body was taken to Methodist Hospital after he was murdered by your CIA buddies. He was dead....why move his body to Parkland???

Tippit had a very strong resemblance to JFK and was commonly called JFK or Jack by coworkers at the Dallas PD.

You have no credibility here.

STOP POSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Because Parkland has a morgue

Now you are just making shit up as usual.

We lie about what happened if Oswald was really the lone gunman?

That s why dead people are taken to hospitals

Why is it so strange to you?

 

[gipper]

There is speculation that the CIA killed Tippit to use his body as a double. As Dale stated, why would they whisk Tippit's body to Parkland?

Some speculate that Tippit's body is interned at Arlington.

No such speculation exists. What you are describing is delusion.

It is normal to whisk a body to the hospital after a shooting. Tippit could not stand in as a double for Kennedy they had little resemblance.

You lie again. Why?

Tippit's body was taken to Methodist Hospital after he was murdered by your CIA buddies. He was dead....why move his body to Parkland???

Tippit had a very strong resemblance to JFK and was commonly called JFK or Jack by coworkers at the Dallas PD.

You have no credibility here.

STOP POSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Because Parkland has a morgue

Now you are just making shit up as usual.

We lie about what happened if Oswald was really the lone gunman?

That s why dead people are taken to hospitals

Why is it so strange to you?

Yes they took him to one hospital and pronounced him dead. Then amazing they went to the trouble of moving his dead body from one hospital to another. Just so happened that the second hospital held JFKs dead body, which looked a lot like Tippit’s dead body.

Nothing Strange about that...

 

[hunarcy]

On November 21, 1963 Oswald learned the JFK motorcade would be passing by his window at work the next day. So he went home, brought his rifle to work the next morning and fired three shots at the President. One of which blew his brains out

That is all there is

Yeah, it's normal for a bullet to hit someone from the rear and force his head backwards.

JFK was wearing a back brace and his body wouldn't go any further forward, so the body's natural reaction forced the head back. But, if you watch the Zapruter film, you can see the blood, fluid and matter fly forward, as it would with a bullet impact from the back.

 

[rightwinger]

No such speculation exists. What you are describing is delusion.

It is normal to whisk a body to the hospital after a shooting. Tippit could not stand in as a double for Kennedy they had little resemblance.

You lie again. Why?

Tippit's body was taken to Methodist Hospital after he was murdered by your CIA buddies. He was dead....why move his body to Parkland???

Tippit had a very strong resemblance to JFK and was commonly called JFK or Jack by coworkers at the Dallas PD.

You have no credibility here.

STOP POSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Because Parkland has a morgue

Now you are just making shit up as usual.

We lie about what happened if Oswald was really the lone gunman?

That s why dead people are taken to hospitals

Why is it so strange to you?

Yes they took him to one hospital and pronounced him dead. Then amazing they went to the trouble of moving his dead body from one hospital to another. Just so happened that the second hospital held JFKs dead body, which looked a lot like Tippit’s dead body.

Nothing Strange about that...

Where was the autopsy performed?

You tried before, Tippet looked nothing like JFK

 

[hunarcy]

No such speculation exists. What you are describing is delusion.

It is normal to whisk a body to the hospital after a shooting. Tippit could not stand in as a double for Kennedy they had little resemblance.

You lie again. Why?

Tippit's body was taken to Methodist Hospital after he was murdered by your CIA buddies. He was dead....why move his body to Parkland???

Tippit had a very strong resemblance to JFK and was commonly called JFK or Jack by coworkers at the Dallas PD.

You have no credibility here.

STOP POSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Because Parkland has a morgue

Now you are just making shit up as usual.

We lie about what happened if Oswald was really the lone gunman?

That s why dead people are taken to hospitals

Why is it so strange to you?

Yes they took him to one hospital and pronounced him dead. Then amazing they went to the trouble of moving his dead body from one hospital to another. Just so happened that the second hospital held JFKs dead body, which looked a lot like Tippit’s dead body.

Nothing Strange about that...

Exactly. He was taken to the closest hospital for treatment and pronounced dead. Then, he was sent to the County Hospital (Parkland) for the autopsy. I did get a good laugh at the idea that Tippit and Kennedy looked alike. Thanks for that.

 

[rightwinger]

You lie again. Why?

Tippit's body was taken to Methodist Hospital after he was murdered by your CIA buddies. He was dead....why move his body to Parkland???

Tippit had a very strong resemblance to JFK and was commonly called JFK or Jack by coworkers at the Dallas PD.

You have no credibility here.

STOP POSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Because Parkland has a morgue

Now you are just making shit up as usual.

We lie about what happened if Oswald was really the lone gunman?

That s why dead people are taken to hospitals

Why is it so strange to you?

Yes they took him to one hospital and pronounced him dead. Then amazing they went to the trouble of moving his dead body from one hospital to another. Just so happened that the second hospital held JFKs dead body, which looked a lot like Tippit’s dead body.

Nothing Strange about that...

Exactly. He was taken to the closest hospital for treatment and pronounced dead. Then, he was sent to the County Hospital (Parkland) for the autopsy. I did get a good laugh at the idea that Tippit and Kennedy looked alike. Thanks for that.

It was an understandable mistake...

Oswald was walking down the street and saw Tippet. Mistaking him for JFK, he shot him again

I thought I killed that guy already

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I think we can all agree...well those of us who have analyzed the event rather than just accept a criminal government's propaganda, that anyone shooting the POTUS would have a plan to get out of town ASAP. Oswald lingering around Dallas is yet another proof of conspiracy, among so many proofs.

Kennedy had a lot of enemies who were from large organizations. The Cubans, pissed about the Bay of Pigs. The CIA who was pissed about the Bay of Pigs. Cuban sympathizers who were pissed about the Bay of Pigs. I don't think the Russians much cared much about Kennedy one way or the other. Generally, as we're seeing now, a divisive figure in the Oval is good for Russia because it weakens their primary global competitor.

When one considers Oswald, this pathetic loser, one should be struck by just how many failures he's had in his life. Based on that alone, I can see where he would do something like this, only wishing for a place of infamy in history; put another way....killing Kennedy for the sake of killing the President. Had the president been Richard Nixon...he would have killed him. Had the President been LBJ...he would have killed LBJ. Had it been Cabot Lodge, Rockefeller, or Captain Kangaroo...they would have been shot that day in Dallas by Oswald.

Anyway, I can see the argument for killing the President just for the notoriety that comes with killing the President.

Until you look closely at the actions after the killing:

• Leaves the TSBD and catches the bus at 12:33.
• Gets off the bus and into and out of a cab between 12:40 and 12:45
• Gets his gun and then kills Tippit at 1:15
• Enters the Texas Theater at about 1:40
• Is arrested at 1:50

I agree with you, you would think that he would have some plan other than all that. This is why I think there was a promise made to assist Oswald; one that he was foolish enough to believe, one that was never going to materialize. Because if you're the CIA, the Cubans, or a Cuban sympathizer or just some other group of mixed nuts that wanted to take the US down a peg...you have all "upside" and no downside. You have this clod in Oswald who is a loose cannon, I can see an opportunist who may have described himself as "Mr. Smith" to Oswald and pledged egress support, a second shooter, or whatever. Oswald does his part, "Mr. Smith" doesn't do another thing; disappearing into the ether...doesn't tell his bosses or anyone else.

• Oswald either kills Kennedy in the assassination
• Oswald doesn't kill Kennedy in the assassination attempt
• Oswald chickens out

We know what happened. He killed Kennedy. Any of the 3 scenarios does not expose the off-stage actor to any liability at all. Again, all "upside", no downside. When he is questioned, he eventually gives up "Mr. Smith" who is, of course, not Mr. Smith or anything close to it. The police have nowhere to go except Oswald. It's a classic scam of getting your mark to do something and you risk nothing. This is why I feel that he ended up in the theater. It would be a perfect place for a clandestine meeting.

That is my theory anyway. Everyone has their own; the Warren Commission is just the Commission's theory and has the seal of the Government on it. I agree with much of what it says. I feel that the actions after the assassination are too convoluted to be passed off as "big deal"

Interesting theory........credible

Like you said, Oswald was looking for a target of opportunity and JFK fell into his lap. There are no conspiracy theories for when he tried to kill Gen Walker ......he was just a semi famous person who Oswald had access to

Your theory seems to be that an outsider had to push Oswald into shooting. Seems Oswald already had it in mind.

I would rule out a big scale conspiracy. CIA, Mafia, USSR or Cuba would get a qualified assassin for such a high profile hit. Too many uncertainties with a loser like Oswald. They would set up a quick escape and then kill him

Two points…

I don’t think Oswald was pushed so much as he was a “useful idiot” who either volunteered or could be convinced to do something.

As for the CIA, Organized Crime Cuba using a “qualified assassin”, that’s just it; they had nothing to lose by employing Oswald on the down-low. If he kills Kennedy, each of those 3 organizations I listed experiences some warped benefit. If he tries and misses, he has nothing to implicate them. If he chickens out…nothing ventured, nothing gained. Those are the only 3 scenarios that could happen when you use an assassin. The added benefit of Oswald vs. a guy like Sammy the Bull is that Oswald has nothing concrete to offer. Sammy the Bull knows names, dates, the proverbial “where the bodies are buried”….

But you’re right. In my theory, something like this never would get official clearance of any kind simply because the more people know about it, the more exposure they have. A very small conspiracy involving 2 and possibly 3 people at the most.

Who benefited from JFK's death?

There lies the perpetrators.

It is really that simple.

Exactly...the military industrial mcomplex got their Vietnam War, the silver backed certificates were taken out of circulation thus satisfying the Federal Reserve, LBJ got the CEO position when he was going to be booted from the ticket in 1964, The CIA wasn't broken up and became even more powerful. Cardinal Spellman, the highest ranked Jesuit returned to getting his daily security updates. The oilmen didn't lose their oil depletion allowance. Hoover went from on the verge of being cut loose because he had been compromised by the mafia because they had pictures of him being a cross-dressing queer. Looks like that is all the mafia got out of the deal...that and continued work with the CIA.

All in all? I would say it worked out quite well for the crooks.

you nailed it.you summed it up perfectly.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Unless you have watched the documentary whose link I provided for you? Eyewitnesses of two groups of men claim that they guarded JFK's body to Bethesda..only one strange thing? One coffin was cheaply made and they couldn't believe a president would be put in one like that. One other group said that the casket they guarded was bronze and finely made. You can hear their own words if you watch the documentary...plenty of eyewitness testimonies describing the assassins, where they were perched as well.

BTW, does anyone else believe that it's a bit unsettling that the man picked for doing the most important autopsy of his life had never done one on a gunshot victim? Imagine that?

which is a perfect example that his body was altered the fact witnesses saw two different caskets none looking anything like each other.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Kennedy had a lot of enemies who were from large organizations. The Cubans, pissed about the Bay of Pigs. The CIA who was pissed about the Bay of Pigs. Cuban sympathizers who were pissed about the Bay of Pigs. I don't think the Russians much cared much about Kennedy one way or the other. Generally, as we're seeing now, a divisive figure in the Oval is good for Russia because it weakens their primary global competitor.

When one considers Oswald, this pathetic loser, one should be struck by just how many failures he's had in his life. Based on that alone, I can see where he would do something like this, only wishing for a place of infamy in history; put another way....killing Kennedy for the sake of killing the President. Had the president been Richard Nixon...he would have killed him. Had the President been LBJ...he would have killed LBJ. Had it been Cabot Lodge, Rockefeller, or Captain Kangaroo...they would have been shot that day in Dallas by Oswald.

Anyway, I can see the argument for killing the President just for the notoriety that comes with killing the President.

Until you look closely at the actions after the killing:

• Leaves the TSBD and catches the bus at 12:33.
• Gets off the bus and into and out of a cab between 12:40 and 12:45
• Gets his gun and then kills Tippit at 1:15
• Enters the Texas Theater at about 1:40
• Is arrested at 1:50

I agree with you, you would think that he would have some plan other than all that. This is why I think there was a promise made to assist Oswald; one that he was foolish enough to believe, one that was never going to materialize. Because if you're the CIA, the Cubans, or a Cuban sympathizer or just some other group of mixed nuts that wanted to take the US down a peg...you have all "upside" and no downside. You have this clod in Oswald who is a loose cannon, I can see an opportunist who may have described himself as "Mr. Smith" to Oswald and pledged egress support, a second shooter, or whatever. Oswald does his part, "Mr. Smith" doesn't do another thing; disappearing into the ether...doesn't tell his bosses or anyone else.

• Oswald either kills Kennedy in the assassination
• Oswald doesn't kill Kennedy in the assassination attempt
• Oswald chickens out

We know what happened. He killed Kennedy. Any of the 3 scenarios does not expose the off-stage actor to any liability at all. Again, all "upside", no downside. When he is questioned, he eventually gives up "Mr. Smith" who is, of course, not Mr. Smith or anything close to it. The police have nowhere to go except Oswald. It's a classic scam of getting your mark to do something and you risk nothing. This is why I feel that he ended up in the theater. It would be a perfect place for a clandestine meeting.

That is my theory anyway. Everyone has their own; the Warren Commission is just the Commission's theory and has the seal of the Government on it. I agree with much of what it says. I feel that the actions after the assassination are too convoluted to be passed off as "big deal"

Interesting theory........credible

Like you said, Oswald was looking for a target of opportunity and JFK fell into his lap. There are no conspiracy theories for when he tried to kill Gen Walker ......he was just a semi famous person who Oswald had access to

Your theory seems to be that an outsider had to push Oswald into shooting. Seems Oswald already had it in mind.

I would rule out a big scale conspiracy. CIA, Mafia, USSR or Cuba would get a qualified assassin for such a high profile hit. Too many uncertainties with a loser like Oswald. They would set up a quick escape and then kill him

Two points…

I don’t think Oswald was pushed so much as he was a “useful idiot” who either volunteered or could be convinced to do something.

As for the CIA, Organized Crime Cuba using a “qualified assassin”, that’s just it; they had nothing to lose by employing Oswald on the down-low. If he kills Kennedy, each of those 3 organizations I listed experiences some warped benefit. If he tries and misses, he has nothing to implicate them. If he chickens out…nothing ventured, nothing gained. Those are the only 3 scenarios that could happen when you use an assassin. The added benefit of Oswald vs. a guy like Sammy the Bull is that Oswald has nothing concrete to offer. Sammy the Bull knows names, dates, the proverbial “where the bodies are buried”….

But you’re right. In my theory, something like this never would get official clearance of any kind simply because the more people know about it, the more exposure they have. A very small conspiracy involving 2 and possibly 3 people at the most.

Who benefited from JFK's death?

There lies the perpetrators.

It is really that simple.

So you claim anyone who may have benefitted from a murder must be the one who did it

Now THAT is really simple

It is so simple that a simpleton like you, can’t accept it.

He is only trolling just as his boss has instructed him at Langley.


It has been refuted many times over. Your lack of critical thinking skills is the proverbial millstone around your neck.

The preponderance of the mountain of evidence and eyewitness testimony says otherwise. Plug your fingers in your ear if it helps