Want ONE simple law to help curb mass-shootings?

[Zander]

How do guns KILL? DO they fire themselves? No? Firing a gun requires "a feeling".

"Brilliant"!!!!!!

...and thank you for ALSO not including the crummy commercials they usually have on Fox (you know, those to commercials to help fight dementia.)

You're almost as dumb as dot c*nt...almost.

 

[ClosedCaption]

How do guns KILL? DO they fire themselves? No? Firing a gun requires "a feeling".

With bullets.

No.

No, it doesnt require a feeling but my responses require you to read tho.

That was a great job at destroying my logic..."Do they fire themselves?"....Good stuff

LWNJ's like you are long on emotion and short on logic.

I know, all you have is your precious accusations

 

[nat4900]

You're almost as dumb as dot c*nt...almost.

Cute avatar, Zanny.......A testament to your IQ and political savvy??? Just asking....l

 

[Avatar4321]

"Oh, parents....here's a casket of your 7 year old...and, yes, here's a bill for the legal fees for DARING to go after those sweethearts who made the weapon that ripped your child apart in 14 pieces................"

Eh, shouldn't putting the guy who ripped that little kid into 14 pieces with his Bushmaster on death row do the trick?

Eh, shouldn't putting the guy who ripped that little kid into 14 pieces with that Bushmaster on death row do the trick?

Nein!!

Ve must deshtroy der Bushmaster!!!!

It ist EVIL

It hast nicht place in our vorld...

Deshtroy them

Deshtroy them ALL!!!!

Maybe they hate the Bushmasters because they think Bush and master and immediately think of W and the fact that they hate him .

It's not at all logical but more so than the premise of these threads

 

[Zander]

You're almost as dumb as dot c*nt...almost.

Cute avatar, Zanny.......A testament to your IQ and political savvy??? Just asking....l

Nope.

I just like the kids face.

 

[Zander]

How do guns KILL? DO they fire themselves? No? Firing a gun requires "a feeling".

With bullets.

No.

No, it doesnt require a feeling but my responses require you to read tho.

That was a great job at destroying my logic..."Do they fire themselves?"....Good stuff

LWNJ's like you are long on emotion and short on logic.

I know, all you have is your precious accusations

What the fuck are you talking about?

 

[Avatar4321]

And if you sell your car to some clown who later drives drunk and kills someone, the victim's family should be able to sue YOU for millions in damages, right???

Except cars are for driving and guns are for killing.

Which means it makes even less sense to sue a gun manufacturer for designing a product that does what it was intended to do.

Try that circular logic shit on someone else. That shit wont fly here.

Nothing circular about it. Manufacturers are liable when their products dont work the way they are supposed to while using them correctly. Like if you are driving a car and it randomly explodes or it doesn't brake because of a design flaw, the manufacturers are liable.

When a product works as it's designed to do and people, through their intentional or negligent acts use the products to cause harm a manufacturer cannot be held liable because the products are working as designed.

Guns that shoot are doing what they were designed to do. They are a tool for self defense and hunting. If someone kills another person using a tool that works correctly they aren't liable. If someone runs another over with a car, it's not the cars design that is the problem, it's the killers negligent/intentional behavior.

Likewise with firearms if the gun shoots properly they are not liable. The killer is.if the gun is designed badly and it explodes or something instead of shooting bullets then yeah there is a design flaw. But you can't sue a manufacturer for product that works as it is intended

And thats why comparing cars killing to guns killing is stupid, thanks

In other words, I don't know how to counter, so you are stupid.

 

[Avatar4321]

The killer is.if the gun is designed badly and it explodes or something instead of shooting bullets then yeah there is a design flaw. But you can't sue a manufacturer for product that works as it is intended

Darn it.....If Lanza were still alive, he could sue since his assault rifle jammed and he could NOT KILL MORE BABIES. Now, THAT would have been an interesting law suit, don't you think, you moronic scum bag?

If Lanza were still alive, he could sue since his assault rifle jammed and he could NOT KILL MORE BABIES.

he'd lose

operator error.

Not a manufacturer defect.

Not to mention it wouldnt' make it to court, because the idea is flat out stupid.

He'd lose because him not being able to kill people is not any sort of damage he could recover for. Best he could sue for would be a replacement gun or the monetary value of the weapon. And that's just hypothetical because in real life if he had survived the gun would have been seized and he would have no grounds to sue since it wouldn't belong to him anymore.

The whole notion was absurd to begin with and would get laughed out of any court except one so corrupt that they ignore the law.

 

[Avatar4321]

How do guns KILL? DO they fire themselves? No? Firing a gun requires "a feeling".

With bullets.

No.

No, it doesnt require a feeling but my responses require you to read tho.

That was a great job at destroying my logic..."Do they fire themselves?"....Good stuff

If you want better arguments stop saying stupid stuff and give people reason to respond with better arguments.

 

[Avatar4321]

How do guns KILL? DO they fire themselves? No? Firing a gun requires "a feeling".

With bullets.

No.

No, it doesnt require a feeling but my responses require you to read tho.

That was a great job at destroying my logic..."Do they fire themselves?"....Good stuff

LWNJ's like you are long on emotion and short on logic.

I disagree. They are short on emotion too. If they did they would not be so heartless

 

[Avatar4321]

How do guns KILL? DO they fire themselves? No? Firing a gun requires "a feeling".

With bullets.

No.

No, it doesnt require a feeling but my responses require you to read tho.

That was a great job at destroying my logic..."Do they fire themselves?"....Good stuff

LWNJ's like you are long on emotion and short on logic.

I know, all you have is your precious accusations

What the fuck are you talking about?

I don't think he knows

 

[ClosedCaption]

How do guns KILL? DO they fire themselves? No? Firing a gun requires "a feeling".

With bullets.

No.

No, it doesnt require a feeling but my responses require you to read tho.

That was a great job at destroying my logic..."Do they fire themselves?"....Good stuff

If you want better arguments stop saying stupid stuff and give people reason to respond with better arguments.

I make them say stupid shit. Ok, go with that lol

 

[ClosedCaption]

How do guns KILL? DO they fire themselves? No? Firing a gun requires "a feeling".

With bullets.

No.

No, it doesnt require a feeling but my responses require you to read tho.

That was a great job at destroying my logic..."Do they fire themselves?"....Good stuff

LWNJ's like you are long on emotion and short on logic.

I know, all you have is your precious accusations

What the fuck are you talking about?

ALL. YOU. HAVE. IS. ACCUSATIONS.

There is only one word that isnt a single syllable there so I hope you're not confused again

 

[Zander]

How do guns KILL? DO they fire themselves? No? Firing a gun requires "a feeling".

With bullets.

No.

No, it doesnt require a feeling but my responses require you to read tho.

That was a great job at destroying my logic..."Do they fire themselves?"....Good stuff

LWNJ's like you are long on emotion and short on logic.

I know, all you have is your precious accusations

What the fuck are you talking about?

ALL. YOU. HAVE. IS. ACCUSATIONS.

There is only one word that isnt a single syllable there so I hope you're not confused again

What accusations? Your entire argument was destroyed in 18 words.

You said Rape was different that shooting because it requires a "feeling". Well guess what Einstein, shooting a person requires "feelings" too. The gun doesn't fire itself.

 

[ClosedCaption]

With bullets.

No.

No, it doesnt require a feeling but my responses require you to read tho.

That was a great job at destroying my logic..."Do they fire themselves?"....Good stuff

LWNJ's like you are long on emotion and short on logic.

I know, all you have is your precious accusations

What the fuck are you talking about?

ALL. YOU. HAVE. IS. ACCUSATIONS.

There is only one word that isnt a single syllable there so I hope you're not confused again

What accusations? Your entire argument was destroyed in 18 words.

You said Rape was different that shooting because it requires a "feeling". Well guess what Einstein, shooting a person requires "feelings" too. The gun doesn't fire itself.

Ok, I didnt realize you were stupid.

A gay guy wouldnt be enticed to rape a girl in a miniskirt. A gay guy dies no matter what he feels if he is shot. Stop being stupid and we can all save time here.

 

[Zander]

LWNJ's like you are long on emotion and short on logic.

I know, all you have is your precious accusations

What the fuck are you talking about?

ALL. YOU. HAVE. IS. ACCUSATIONS.

There is only one word that isnt a single syllable there so I hope you're not confused again

What accusations? Your entire argument was destroyed in 18 words.

You said Rape was different that shooting because it requires a "feeling". Well guess what Einstein, shooting a person requires "feelings" too. The gun doesn't fire itself.

Ok, I didnt realize you were stupid.

A gay guy wouldnt be enticed to rape a girl in a miniskirt. A gay guy dies no matter what he feels if he is shot. Stop being stupid and we can all save time here.

So much garbled bullshit in such a short post...You have a real talent for sophistry and diversion, I'll give you that.

I own a gun. It has never killed anyone. Ever. Hundreds of millions of Americans own guns that have never killed a person.

A gun is an inanimate object. Like a mini skirt. Lots of girls wear mini skirts. Most never get raped.

It takes "emotion" to fire a gun or to rape a person.

You don't blame the mini skirt for a girl getting raped, but you blame "the gun" for a shooting.

That makes you incredibly dumb.

 

[LOki]

The easiest way to stop gun crime is to go to the voter roles, find all the democrats and disarm them...they do the majority of the gun murders in the country and kill a lot of people.......

That's good.

Let's try this on for size: When you vote, there's an instant background check to see if you're eligible to vote. Everyone seems to be mostly fine with the arrangement and it's effectiveness.

Felons are not allowed to vote; which makes sense--you don't want those of criminal mind and criminal intent to have ANY say in how the government uses its power to initiate the use of coercive force (read: guns) upon society. Because the criminal use of guns individually or through (elected) proxy is still the criminal use of guns, and we don't want a bunch of criminal retards in charge of guns. Right?

It seems that the same moral deficiency is valid cause to deny (on narrowly defined criteria) an individual's constitutionally protected right in both cases.

From what I hear, voter fraud is a myth... so this background check must also be pretty good.

So.... anyone who is disqualified from keeping and bearing ANY firearm should also be disqualified from voting... for the same (valid) reasons.

If implemented, all registered voters are automatically licensed gun owners--and no one is any more obligated to own a gun than they are obligated to vote, yet they are still fully qualified to do both.

The Fed could issue licenses: One side of the ideological aisle would get the "universal" gun owner license it so desperately wants, and the other side would get the "voter ID" card that it so desperately wants. There would be national reciprocity, and no "due process" violations cause by a patchwork quilt of local regulations regarding gun ownership or voter eligibility. Seems like a win-win.

I'm just interested how the dynamics of "Rock the Vote" and other voter registration efforts would change.

 

[nat4900]

The easiest way to stop gun crime is to go to the voter roles, find all the democrats and disarm them...they do the majority of the gun murders in the country and kill a lot of people.......

That's good.

Let's try this on for size: When you vote, there's an instant background check to see if you're eligible to vote. Everyone seems to be mostly fine with the arrangement and it's effectiveness.

Felons are not allowed to vote; which makes sense--you don't want those of criminal mind and criminal intent to have ANY say in how the government uses its power to initiate the use of coercive force (read: guns) upon society. Because the criminal use of guns individually or through (elected) proxy is still the criminal use of guns, and we don't want a bunch of criminal retards in charge of guns. Right?

It seems that the same moral deficiency is valid cause to deny (on narrowly defined criteria) an individual's constitutionally protected right in both cases.

From what I hear, voter fraud is a myth... so this background check must also be pretty good.

So.... anyone who is disqualified from keeping and bearing ANY firearm should also be disqualified from voting... for the same (valid) reasons.

If implemented, all registered voters are automatically licensed gun owners--and no one is any more obligated to own a gun than they are obligated to vote, yet they are still fully qualified to do both.

The Fed could issue licenses: One side of the ideological aisle would get the "universal" gun owner license it so desperately wants, and the other side would get the "voter ID" card that it so desperately wants. There would be national reciprocity, and no "due process" violations cause by a patchwork quilt of local regulations regarding gun ownership or voter eligibility. Seems like a win-win.

I'm just interested how the dynamics of "Rock the Vote" and other voter registration efforts would change.

I'm all in favor of that plan....Good job.

 

[rockledr]

Gun manufacturers can still be sued for selling defective product, fraud, etc.,,, just like every other manufacturer in the country, your assertion relative to this law is clearly false.

There comes a time when you need to just admit you're wrong and that time has come for you in thread...

Have you even remotely "wondered" WHY a special law had to be passed JUST for gun manufacturers????

The law had to be passed because of assholes like you. You idiots thought you could sue manufacturers out of business and do away with the 2nd amendment through the backdoor.

 

[GHook93]

Actually, we should always follow what lobbyists push (aka, BRIBE) congress to do (and in some instance, NOT to do) when searching for legislation to curb an abuse of the common welfare and good.

Regarding mass murders, we know that gun manufacturers (and their bought puppet, the NRA) fought and won the right to NOT be sued for the misuse of their deadly products.

If we wanted to make a substantial dent with mass shootings (almost impossible to eliminate without reversing the Constitution's 2nd amendment) pass a law that gun manufacturers AND gun vendors can be sued when their product is sold WITHOUT a thorough background and psychological clean bill of health.

You are dumb as the come! Regardless of the rhetoric of the right, guns are made and designed to be a deadly weapon. Regardless if it is used in self-defense, a gun is designed to kill a living target or cause damage to a non-living target! It is simple as that. This is a great law. Without it douches like the ACLU would have simply "litigated" away the second amendment or they would have done what Germany does, only allow the RICH to own guns! So you answer is complete gun control. So just admit it.


Again both sides in the gun control debate are wrong. Some things should be done:
(1) In Illinois there is background check, registry and issuance of a FOID card. This should be at the Federal level.
(2) End gun shows. Oh the humanity, PLEASE, guns are deadly weapons and should be treated as such.
(3) The FOID system should be actively linked to doctor records, psyche ward records and admittance to mental wards, ER or mental wards. HIPAA/HITECH have exceptions for the sharing or Personal Health Information to law enforcement bodies in accordance with Federal regulation.
(4) Every sale must go through a background check.
(5) Make owners vicarious liable for crimes committed via the use of their guns.

This is just a brainstormed listed, but we need to do more to keep guns out of the hands of mentally unstable people.