Want ONE simple law to help curb mass-shootings?

[nat4900]

It's not the guns that are the problem, it's the people using them.

Oh. Jesus....NOT another FOX talking point.....Give it a fucking rest.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Inane response? No, it's a accurate description as well as an intelligent opinion.

Do knife manufactures get sued when one of the products is used in a murder?

You are as delusional as it gets.

IDIOT....knives are NOT manufactured to be used as WEAPONS.......Conversely, assault rifles certainly are !!!

(but, thanks for sharing your biased stupidity)

Some are. A trench knife for example is designed to kill or gravely incapacitate an enemy at close quarters.

And dude, please stop using the word "assault rifle", what you are referring to is merely a semi-auto rifle. it's not full or select fire.

As the United States Defense Department’s Defense Intelligence Agency book Small Arms Identification and Operation Guide explains, “assault rifles” are “short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachine gun and rifle cartridges.”In other words, assault rifles are battlefield rifles which can fire automatically.

Weapons capable of fully automatic fire, including assault rifles, have been regulated heavily in the United States since the National Firearms Act of 1934.Taking possession of such weapons requires paying a $200 federal transfer tax and submitting to an FBI background check, including ten-print fingerprints.

 

[Auld Phart]

It's not the guns that are the problem, it's the people using them.

Oh. Jesus....NOT another FOX talking point.....Give it a fucking rest.

Fox?

Never tune it in.


That is a fact


Unlike your own talking points.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

The NRA doesn't make a dime from gun sales

How STUPID........Check out the NRA own budget and even an idiot.....like you....would see that the NRA is almost wholly OWNED by gun manufacturers who funnel tons of money to AVOID ANY restrictions or LIABILITY for manufacturing lethal weapons.

WHY did gun manufacturers need a SPECIAL law to protect them???

Manufacturers do indeed support the NRA as well as thousands of private citizens, but the NRA does not directly make a dime from gun sales. But hey, stay intellectually dishonest if you so choose. It makes you look like an even bigger fool than you already have shown yourself to be.

 

[easyt65]

'Want ONE simple law to help curb mass-shootings?'

There is not one single existing law that would have stopped the Oregon shooting.
There is not one single law that would stop such future shootings.
There is no one single law that the criminals and murderers would obey.

People who claim to be 'anti-gun' are VERY MUCH for guns but are just too ignorant to know it:
- If you take away all of the guns from American citizens, assuming you could, guns would still be needed by the law enforcement officers who would then be responsible for defending you, your families, your possessions, your homes, your property.... Since criminals would be the only non-law enforcement people to have guns even MORE guns would probably be needed to confront the escalating crime rate.

In such a scenario, the anti-gun crowd would find out that what they really supported was not 'anti-gun' control but a CENTRALIZED control of weapons by local / government law enforcement not only responsible for the protection of US citizens but also responsible for forcing citizens to comply with laws imposed on them. (Remember Pelosi telling Americans they have no right to know what is in legislation until it has been passed?) No matter what law / edict is then passed, Americans would have no way to defend their rights but would instead be at the mercy of the government and its armed enforcers.

More simple scenario? Someone breaks into your home, you call 911, and they tell you that help wil be there in 10 minutes...try not to get raped, shot, or killed until then..... Good luck with that.

 

[KGB]

And if you sell your car to some clown who later drives drunk and kills someone, the victim's family should be able to sue YOU for millions in damages, right???

Pretty dumb response (as always)......Name another manufacturer...beside gun ones......who CANNOT be sued by consumers?

actually gun manufacturers are liable anytime their product does not work as advertised. That's the same as any other company out there in existence. This is the extent of their liability. Tell you what, if you want to open this can of worms, how about a law that states that alcohol producers are legally responsible if their customers get drunk & kill someone in a drunk driving accident. That is the exact same thing.

 

[nat4900]

The NRA doesn't make a dime from gun sales.

Since 2005, the gun industry and its corporate allies have given between $20 million and $52.6 million to it through the NRA Ring of Freedom sponsor program. Donors include firearm companies like Midway USA, Springfield Armory Inc, Pierce Bullet Seal Target Systems, and Beretta USA Corporation. Other supporters from the gun industry include Cabala's, Sturm Rugar & Co, and Smith & Wesson.

The NRA also made $20.9 million — about 10 percent of its revenue — from selling advertising to industry companies marketing products in its many publications in 2010, according to the IRS Form 990.

 

[Auld Phart]

The NRA doesn't make a dime from gun sales.

Since 2005, the gun industry and its corporate allies have given between $20 million and $52.6 million to it through the NRA Ring of Freedom sponsor program. Donors include firearm companies like Midway USA, Springfield Armory Inc, Pierce Bullet Seal Target Systems, and Beretta USA Corporation. Other supporters from the gun industry include Cabala's, Sturm Rugar & Co, and Smith & Wesson.

The NRA also made $20.9 million — about 10 percent of its revenue — from selling advertising to industry companies marketing products in its many publications in 2010, according to the IRS Form 990.

I see where they accepted donations,

I see where they sold advertising space...


Missed where they made one dime from gun sales in your rant.

 

[nat4900]

I see where they sold advertising space...


Missed where they made one dime from gun sales in your rant.

Fine........Stay stupid...I don't give a shit if you're a perpetual moron

 

[Auld Phart]

I see where they sold advertising space...


Missed where they made one dime from gun sales in your rant.

Fine........Stay stupid...I don't give a shit if you're a perpetual moron

...I don't give a shit if you're a perpetual moron

I'd need a lobotomy to come down to your level.

Why don't you post something that actually backs you up?

 

[2aguy]

I see where they sold advertising space...


Missed where they made one dime from gun sales in your rant.

Fine........Stay stupid...I don't give a shit if you're a perpetual moron

Oh…you lost….so now you get insulted…the truth is liberating, reality is liberating…embrace them, you will be happier.

 

[2aguy]

No one on the right has recommended arming every single American with assault weapons, that's another 'fact' you pulled out of your ass.

Arming school employees, having armed guards around schools, increasing access to mental health records for background checks. (yes, moron, and that was suggested by the NRA).

Need more, or has your head exploded?

Well, thank the NRA for THAT great suggestion of making schools into armed compounds...Maybe even having razor barbed wires around the school.....Or even a "beautiful wall" a-la Trump built around the perimeter???

But NOT one freaking suggestion about having LESS guns sales, correct scum bucket?

You mean like news rooms…..or the homes of movie stars, or congress, or the White HOuse……yeah…no one has armed security there, right?

The problem in all of these mass shootings isn't too many guns…it is one gun in the hands of the murderer….and 0 guns in the hands of his victims….

What part of that is so hard for you anti gun extremists to get…

And what do we do when this happens……we send in dozens of people…with guns…..more guns…to stop him.

 

[9thIDdoc]

Actually, we should always follow what lobbyists push (aka, BRIBE) congress to do (and in some instance, NOT to do) when searching for legislation to curb an abuse of the common welfare and good.

Regarding mass murders, we know that gun manufacturers (and their bought puppet, the NRA) fought and won the right to NOT be sued for the misuse of their deadly products.

If we wanted to make a substantial dent with mass shootings (almost impossible to eliminate without reversing the Constitution's 2nd amendment) pass a law that gun manufacturers AND gun vendors can be sued when their product is sold WITHOUT a thorough background and psychological clean bill of health.

No reason to believe such law would do any such thing. Very likely unconstitutional. And would create far more problems than any possible benefit. In short: FAIL.

 

[kaz]

Actually, we should always follow what lobbyists push (aka, BRIBE) congress to do (and in some instance, NOT to do) when searching for legislation to curb an abuse of the common welfare and good.

Regarding mass murders, we know that gun manufacturers (and their bought puppet, the NRA) fought and won the right to NOT be sued for the misuse of their deadly products.

If we wanted to make a substantial dent with mass shootings (almost impossible to eliminate without reversing the Constitution's 2nd amendment) pass a law that gun manufacturers AND gun vendors can be sued when their product is sold WITHOUT a thorough background and psychological clean bill of health.

Why would that stop mass shootings?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

The NRA doesn't make a dime from gun sales.

Since 2005, the gun industry and its corporate allies have given between $20 million and $52.6 million to it through the NRA Ring of Freedom sponsor program. Donors include firearm companies like Midway USA, Springfield Armory Inc, Pierce Bullet Seal Target Systems, and Beretta USA Corporation. Other supporters from the gun industry include Cabala's, Sturm Rugar & Co, and Smith & Wesson.

The NRA also made $20.9 million — about 10 percent of its revenue — from selling advertising to industry companies marketing products in its many publications in 2010, according to the IRS Form 990.

You just proved what I said. The NRA doesn't profit from gun sales. Their money comes from donations and selling advertising.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Because they would be tied up in court endlessly by assholes looking to make a buck because a product performed as designed. How about we put the same onus on auto manufactures and dealers to ensure drivers are responsible or face law suits for their misuse? What do you think a car would cost? After all the 14th requires equal treatment under the law.

Autos are not built to kill, hunt or for target shooting.......They are built to get you from one location to another...Whereas guns, assault rifles , etc., are built for........????

Irrelevant to the conversation.
You cannot in any way soundly show how Bushmaster in in any way liable for the deaths of he kids at Sandyhook.
Don't feel bad - neither can anyone else.

 

[M14 Shooter]

But how?

They can't control the actions of who buys their products, no more than a grocery store can control someone who chokes on some meat they happen to buy from them. And you think this will curb mass murders?

Not only that, nat, the background checks we have right now fail miserably, simply because some idiot with NO PRIOR HISTORY passed one, then murdered 9 people. Your logic is a complete failure. More background checks won't help.

Do a favor for me, and look up what a false cause argument is.

My entire point from the O/P is that gun manufacturers KNOW full well that they are peddling murderous weapons...

This is, of course, another llie.

 

[M14 Shooter]

y manufacturer cam be sued for defects... if a gun blows up in your face, you have recourse. A gun manufacturer is no more responsible for misuse of a gun than Ford is responsible for drunk or negligent drivers. That's just dumb.

Again a STUPID and trite typical response from right wingers......FORD is building a car....not an assault rifle.

Another lie - Bushmaster does not build assault rifles.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Assault rifles were already banned in CT

What did Lanza use then???

According to you, he used "a weapon that was SOLELY intended to be used by soldiers in a war setting."
Which is, of course,a lie.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]