virginity

[SmarterThanHick]

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better fairy tale "love and sex", then porn "love and sex"

those are not the only two options in this universe. besides, you no longer qualify for faily tale love. you're no prince charming. in what fairy tail does the hero sleep with some girl first before saving the princess?

 

[MHunterB]

If she Displays the right attitude and regrets she made once a mistake, I could overlook it. I would not love her less.

Just what is this 'right attitude'?

first and foremost that marriage is sacred, that human relationships have a worth and that humans have dignity

Well, you certainly don't practice that your own self - so how dare you try to hold another person to it?

 

[Mortimer]

she's in thigh highs and her underwear, and has a tail. Do you think you have the physique to lift a young kangaroo furry?

I'm not asking about the physical differences between men and women. Men on average do have more muscle mass. I'm asking about why gender makes a difference to VALUE SYSTEMS. Gender can make a difference to societal norms of chivalry, and ability to lift things, but you have yet to elucidate why gender makes a difference to VALUE SYSTEMS.

perhaps you should stop using metaphors and start using concrete ideas. but again, you can't. because this concept is as concrete as jello.

you just try to disprove me instead of sincerly trying to understand me. i try to demonstrate you the difference between females and males. if a female had sex she is defiled but if a guy had sex he is the defiler. both is bad. but im not someone who goes around to defile women. it is about attitude. a woman who respects herself wont let guys defile her. im not defiled by my sexual Encounter. and you say that is middle Ages, i say not it is still alive. if i say to you "i fucked your sister" you will be offended but if a girl says to you "i fucked your brother" you will just laugh. (again a metaphor). because in the first case you will feel as if he defiled your family

 

[syrenn]

If she Displays the right attitude and regrets she made once a mistake, I could overlook it. I would not love her less.

Just what is this 'right attitude'?

first and foremost that marriage is sacred, that human relationships have a worth and that humans have dignity

and what does the virginity of either partner have to do with marriage being sacred?

 

[Mortimer]

ah.... so we are talking about fairy tale love and sex.


again....as stated in my first response to you......... GROW THE **** UP.

better fairy tale "love and sex", then porn "love and sex"

i got news for ya....

fairy tale love and sex...is not real



and neither is pron love and sex.

porn love and sex is REAL. just take a look into high School classes, there are Teenagers who take on tape with Smartphone when they make gang bangs

 

[Mortimer]

Just what is this 'right attitude'?

first and foremost that marriage is sacred, that human relationships have a worth and that humans have dignity

Well, you certainly don't practice that your own self - so how dare you try to hold another person to it?

i practice it myself, that i had one time sex is a non-issue because i have the right attitude and im a guy

 

[Ernie S.]

Gotta hand it to you IM Most anyone else would have slithered away by now.

 

[MHunterB]

'scuse me, all - I am taking off for upstairs, where I'm going to enjoy the heck out of my wonderful husband : )) All this romance talk has reminded me of what an incredible guy he is (even though he hardly drinks at all!) - I think my time is best spent showing him my........................ appreciation!

 

[Mortimer]

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better fairy tale "love and sex", then porn "love and sex"

those are not the only two options in this universe. besides, you no longer qualify for faily tale love. you're no prince charming. in what fairy tail does the hero sleep with some girl first before saving the princess?

well im not a Extremist, i could settle for far less then a "unkissed virgin". it is just my romantic dream of the ideal female. for me it has a value, im not the one going around saying "virginity is a curable deficiency" like the other guy in this thread

 

[syrenn]

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better fairy tale "love and sex", then porn "love and sex"

those are not the only two options in this universe. besides, you no longer qualify for faily tale love. you're no prince charming. in what fairy tail does the hero sleep with some girl first before saving the princess?

anne rice's sleeping beauty trilogy

 

[Mortimer]

'scuse me, all - I am taking off for upstairs, where I'm going to enjoy the heck out of my wonderful husband : )) All this romance talk has reminded me of what an incredible guy he is (even though he hardly drinks at all!) - I think my time is best spent showing him my........................ appreciation!

im glad that you are married and happy. congrats

 

[syrenn]

better fairy tale "love and sex", then porn "love and sex"

i got news for ya....

fairy tale love and sex...is not real



and neither is pron love and sex.

porn love and sex is REAL. just take a look into high School classes, there are Teenagers who take on tape with Smartphone when they make gang bangs

lol...
what kids are doing on smartphones.... is not pron in the pron industry sense....

 

[syrenn]

first and foremost that marriage is sacred, that human relationships have a worth and that humans have dignity

Well, you certainly don't practice that your own self - so how dare you try to hold another person to it?

i practice it myself, that i had one time sex is a non-issue because i have the right attitude and im a guy

it makes you just as defiled and as dirty as any woman who is not a virgin....


deal with it.

 

[Mortimer]

i got news for ya....

fairy tale love and sex...is not real



and neither is pron love and sex.

porn love and sex is REAL. just take a look into high School classes, there are Teenagers who take on tape with Smartphone when they make gang bangs

lol...
what kids are doing on smartphones.... is not pron in the pron industry sense....

i think People tend to degrade the value of sex, at the Level of Bonobos. i have the feeling

 

[Mortimer]

Well, you certainly don't practice that your own self - so how dare you try to hold another person to it?

i practice it myself, that i had one time sex is a non-issue because i have the right attitude and im a guy

it makes you just as defiled and as dirty as any woman who is not a virgin....


deal with it.

i dont call anyone dirty not a female not a guy. and there is inbetween White and Black. Between unkissed virgin and total slut. There are Grey Shades. I would be sad if i ended up with a total slut, because I dont think I deserve that. The unkissed virgin is a romantic dream, of a ideal female which has high value for me but i dont expect to find it in real life.

 

[percysunshine]

how important is it to you?

id like to end up with a unkissed virgin, who never had any form of sexual physical contact to a other guy

I am thinking your 7th grade grammer teacher is going to say 'No'.

 

[syrenn]

i practice it myself, that i had one time sex is a non-issue because i have the right attitude and im a guy

it makes you just as defiled and as dirty as any woman who is not a virgin....


deal with it.

i dont call anyone dirty not a female not a guy. and there is inbetween White and Black. Between unkissed virgin and total slut. There are Grey Shades. I would be sad if i ended up with a total slut, because I dont think I deserve that. The unkissed virgin is a romantic dream, of a ideal female which has high value for me but i dont expect to find it in real life.

well... i got news for you... virgins are either pretty damn dumb or frustrated and up tight... either way unless YOU know what YOU are doing no one is going to enjoy sex.

 

[Indofred]

What about the OP, are you a virgin?

It strikes me, it would be better for everyone to be sexless prior to marriage.
STDs would be wiped out overnight and loads of social problems would disappear with them.
It would upset the abortion argument as there would be little call for that operation.

 

[SmarterThanHick]

you just try to disprove me instead of sincerly trying to understand me. i try to demonstrate you the difference between females and males. if a female had sex she is defiled but if a guy had sex he is the defiler. both is bad. but im not someone who goes around to defile women. it is about attitude. a woman who respects herself wont let guys defile her. im not defiled by my sexual Encounter. and you say that is middle Ages, i say not it is still alive. if i say to you "i fucked your sister" you will be offended but if a girl says to you "i fucked your brother" you will just laugh. (again a metaphor). because in the first case you will feel as if he defiled your family

i'm asking you to actually support what you're saying instead of using irrelevant metaphors and vague comparisons. Why is one person a defiler and the other defiled? Why does sex involve defiling in the first place? For someone claiming to be only interested in romance, you sure have a terrible grasp of love. Can a couple not engage in sex without someone being defiled? Are your princesses defiled by their princes?

i practice it myself, that i had one time sex is a non-issue because i have the right attitude and im a guy

so you think your past actions are moot because you "have the right attitude"? And because you're chauvinistic. great. really romantic.

 

[Mortimer]

you just try to disprove me instead of sincerly trying to understand me. i try to demonstrate you the difference between females and males. if a female had sex she is defiled but if a guy had sex he is the defiler. both is bad. but im not someone who goes around to defile women. it is about attitude. a woman who respects herself wont let guys defile her. im not defiled by my sexual Encounter. and you say that is middle Ages, i say not it is still alive. if i say to you "i fucked your sister" you will be offended but if a girl says to you "i fucked your brother" you will just laugh. (again a metaphor). because in the first case you will feel as if he defiled your family

i'm asking you to actually support what you're saying instead of using irrelevant metaphors and vague comparisons. Why is one person a defiler and the other defiled? Why does sex involve defiling in the first place? For someone claiming to be only interested in romance, you sure have a terrible grasp of love. Can a couple not engage in sex without someone being defiled? Are your princesses defiled by their princes?

i practice it myself, that i had one time sex is a non-issue because i have the right attitude and im a guy

so you think your past actions are moot because you "have the right attitude"? And because you're chauvinistic. great. really romantic.

i dont Need to "Support it" because it is not mathematics like 1+1=2. I can only explain to you how i see it, what i did but you didnt tried to understand but just wrote comments to make my Points look moot. And there is a difference between sex and sex. if a married woman had sex and gave birth to a child no one will say she is defiled. You dont grasp Basics, actually i think you do but you just ignore it to make my Point sounds irrational.