virginity

[Mortimer]

If having sex once is not unromantic, does the same hold true for a woman? Why or why not? Don't tell me "there are differences". Tell me why or why not.

If she Displays the right attitude and regrets she made once a mistake, I could overlook it. I would not love her less.

 

[SmarterThanHick]

she is an elf. how do you know she's a virgin? what makes you think he isn't? putting the sci-fi elements aside, this more closely dates to a completely different time. do you believe yourself in the middle ages?

you are projecting your own beliefs onto a painting, without actually addressing the actual issue. I'm asking you WHY you feel virginity is less romantic for males than females.

I'll give you a hint to your difficulty in answering: there's no logic behind your superficial perspective.

In summary, please watch this: http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6862303/my-elf-girlfriend-sex-talk

 

[Mortimer]

Oddly enough, this isn't about gender differences with respect to sex. This is about a value system: one which you yourself setup in this thread. Either virginity is or is not romantic. You claim it is, yet concurrently claiming it doesn't count for men. And you have yet to be able to elucidate why that double standard exist. You hand waive about men and women being different. I'm aware. But it still doesn't answer the question: why do you believe a woman who is saving her virginity, clearly demonstrating she believes it is valuable, will not see it as valuable in a man?

The point you make that it only happened once is much like your point earlier where you came close to insinuating that your one time somehow didn't count. That you were "almost" a virgin. That's like being "almost dead". You either are, or you're not. Your comment about not being unromantic is your way of downplaying the double standard to yourself. If having sex once is not unromantic, does the same hold true for a woman? Why or why not? Don't tell me "there are differences". Tell me why or why not.

Ok I will demonstrate it with a Picture. He is the Knight she is the Virgin. Thats romantic. Would it be Romantic if she were the Knight and he the Virgin?

really? ... how do you know she is a virgin?

because every princess in a fairy tale is a vrigin. While the Guy is strong, brave and can drink alot but certainly it is not important that he is a virgin. Of course those are only stereotypes but you get my Point?

 

[SmarterThanHick]

If she Displays the right attitude and regrets she made once a mistake, I could overlook it. I would not love her less.

what makes you think her prior sexual activity was a mistake? what if she makes love to you, but it doesn't work out? would YOU then be her mistake she regrets?

 

[MHunterB]

Ok I will demonstrate it with a Picture. He is the Knight she is the Virgin. Thats romantic. Would it be Romantic if she were the Knight and he the Virgin?

You might ask my husband about that. We've been married 38 years.

Incidentally, I hope you are in support of 'interracial' love stories, 'cause she's got pointy ears which means she's an Elf.

 

[Mortimer]

she is an elf. how do you know she's a virgin? what makes you think he isn't? putting the sci-fi elements aside, this more closely dates to a completely different time. do you believe yourself in the middle ages?

you are projecting your own beliefs onto a painting, without actually addressing the actual issue. I'm asking you WHY you feel virginity is less romantic for males than females.

I'll give you a hint to your difficulty in answering: there's no logic behind your superficial perspective.

In summary, please watch this: My Elf Girlfriend: Sex Talk - CollegeHumor Video

she is certainly a virgin or he would not love her and she would not be worth to be in a fairy tale, if she were a slut. In fair tales all miladies, princesses, fairies etc. are virgins not sluts. While the guy is brave, strong, can drink alot and eat alot etc. but it is not important he is a virgin (maybe he is or he is not - but it is not important for him to be)

 

[Mortimer]

If she Displays the right attitude and regrets she made once a mistake, I could overlook it. I would not love her less.

what makes you think her prior sexual activity was a mistake? what if she makes love to you, but it doesn't work out? would YOU then be her mistake she regrets?

if she was married, it is normal. if she was not married then it was a mistake. i want a woman who believes in not having sex before marriage.

 

[syrenn]

Ok I will demonstrate it with a Picture. He is the Knight she is the Virgin. Thats romantic. Would it be Romantic if she were the Knight and he the Virgin?

really? ... how do you know she is a virgin?

because every princess in a fairy tale is a vrigin. While the Guy is strong, brave and can drink alot but certainly it is not important that he is a virgin. Of course those are only stereotypes but you get my Point?

ah.... so we are talking about fairy tale love and sex.


again....as stated in my first response to you......... GROW THE **** UP.

 

[MHunterB]

If having sex once is not unromantic, does the same hold true for a woman? Why or why not? Don't tell me "there are differences". Tell me why or why not.

If she Displays the right attitude and regrets she made once a mistake, I could overlook it. I would not love her less.

Just what is this 'right attitude'?

 

[syrenn]

she is an elf. how do you know she's a virgin? what makes you think he isn't? putting the sci-fi elements aside, this more closely dates to a completely different time. do you believe yourself in the middle ages?

you are projecting your own beliefs onto a painting, without actually addressing the actual issue. I'm asking you WHY you feel virginity is less romantic for males than females.

I'll give you a hint to your difficulty in answering: there's no logic behind your superficial perspective.

In summary, please watch this: My Elf Girlfriend: Sex Talk - CollegeHumor Video

she is certainly a virgin or he would not love her and she would not be worth to be in a fairy tale, if she were a slut. In fair tales all miladies, princesses, fairies etc. are virgins not sluts. While the guy is brave, strong, can drink alot and eat alot etc. but it is not important he is a virgin (maybe he is or he is not - but it is not important for him to be)

ok.... so i see you have the drink a lot and eat a lot thing already going on.....

 

[dblack]

Ewww..... to paraphrase Heinlein, virginity is a correctable deficiency. Nothing more.

 

[SmarterThanHick]

she is certainly a virgin or he would not love her and she would not be worth to be in a fairy tale, if she were a slut. In fair tales all miladies, princesses, fairies etc. are virgins not sluts. While the guy is brave, strong, can drink alot and eat alot etc. but it is not important he is a virgin (maybe he is or he is not - but it is not important for him to be)

and if we lived in a fairytale i would encourage you to go yonder and seek out thine truest princess love!

but that's fiction. stories. elves don't exist. that dude is actually her brother. It's a plutonic hand kiss.

But you see you are using circular reasoning here, which is why you are getting such a negative reaction from others. Do you think in the real world that virginity is what causes love?

 

[Connery]

Ok I will demonstrate it with a Picture. He is the Knight she is the Virgin. Thats romantic. Would it be Romantic if she were the Knight and he the Virgin?

really? ... how do you know she is a virgin?

because every princess in a fairy tale is a vrigin. While the Guy is strong, brave and can drink alot but certainly it is not important that he is a virgin. Of course those are only stereotypes but you get my Point?

Snow White in RL....

 

[Mortimer]

she is certainly a virgin or he would not love her and she would not be worth to be in a fairy tale, if she were a slut. In fair tales all miladies, princesses, fairies etc. are virgins not sluts. While the guy is brave, strong, can drink alot and eat alot etc. but it is not important he is a virgin (maybe he is or he is not - but it is not important for him to be)

and if we lived in a fairytale i would encourage you to go yonder and seek out thine truest princess love!

but that's fiction. stories. elves don't exist. that dude is actually her brother. It's a plutonic hand kiss.

But you see you are using circular reasoning here, which is why you are getting such a negative reaction from others. Do you think in the real world that virginity is what causes love?

I know that elves dont exist and i dont know the Background of the Picture. I could have posted a similar Picture to make my Point.

for example

he holds her in his Hands, would it be normal if she hold him in the Hands?

I try to demonstrate a Point, you shouldnt take it too literally. I give metaphors.

 

[Mortimer]

really? ... how do you know she is a virgin?

because every princess in a fairy tale is a vrigin. While the Guy is strong, brave and can drink alot but certainly it is not important that he is a virgin. Of course those are only stereotypes but you get my Point?

ah.... so we are talking about fairy tale love and sex.


again....as stated in my first response to you......... GROW THE **** UP.

better fairy tale "love and sex", then porn "love and sex"

 

[syrenn]

she is certainly a virgin or he would not love her and she would not be worth to be in a fairy tale, if she were a slut. In fair tales all miladies, princesses, fairies etc. are virgins not sluts. While the guy is brave, strong, can drink alot and eat alot etc. but it is not important he is a virgin (maybe he is or he is not - but it is not important for him to be)

and if we lived in a fairytale i would encourage you to go yonder and seek out thine truest princess love!

but that's fiction. stories. elves don't exist. that dude is actually her brother. It's a plutonic hand kiss.

But you see you are using circular reasoning here, which is why you are getting such a negative reaction from others. Do you think in the real world that virginity is what causes love?

I know that elves dont exist and i dont know the Background of the Picture. I could have posted a similar Picture to make my Point.

for example

he holds her in his Hands, would it be normal if she hold him in the Hands?

I try to demonstrate a Point, you shouldnt take it too literally. I give metaphors.

and what does him holding her ....or she holding him

have anything to do with the state of their virginity?

 

[Mortimer]

really? ... how do you know she is a virgin?

because every princess in a fairy tale is a vrigin. While the Guy is strong, brave and can drink alot but certainly it is not important that he is a virgin. Of course those are only stereotypes but you get my Point?

Snow White in RL....

People tend to pornographicise everything. and human relationships are not sacred anymore. marriage etc. is not sacred anymore.

 

[syrenn]

because every princess in a fairy tale is a vrigin. While the Guy is strong, brave and can drink alot but certainly it is not important that he is a virgin. Of course those are only stereotypes but you get my Point?

ah.... so we are talking about fairy tale love and sex.


again....as stated in my first response to you......... GROW THE **** UP.

better fairy tale "love and sex", then porn "love and sex"

i got news for ya....

fairy tale love and sex...is not real



and neither is pron love and sex.

 

[SmarterThanHick]

she's in thigh highs and her underwear, and has a tail. Do you think you have the physique to lift a young kangaroo furry?

I'm not asking about the physical differences between men and women. Men on average do have more muscle mass. I'm asking about why gender makes a difference to VALUE SYSTEMS. Gender can make a difference to societal norms of chivalry, and ability to lift things, but you have yet to elucidate why gender makes a difference to VALUE SYSTEMS.

perhaps you should stop using metaphors and start using concrete ideas. but again, you can't. because this concept is as concrete as jello.

 

[Mortimer]

If having sex once is not unromantic, does the same hold true for a woman? Why or why not? Don't tell me "there are differences". Tell me why or why not.

If she Displays the right attitude and regrets she made once a mistake, I could overlook it. I would not love her less.

Just what is this 'right attitude'?

first and foremost that marriage is sacred, that human relationships have a worth and that humans have dignity