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Oh lord. In that case in Georgia it could well be Aggravated Assault. It is illegal to use a firearm in a threatening manner. I know. You don’t like the law. You think it is stupid. Whatever. That is the law in Georgia. It would have been smarter to stay inside. You have cover and concealment you do not have in the front Yard. Also there can be no claim that you instigated the confrontation.
Being smart and tactically sound does not appear to be a prerequisite for self defense. If it was me I would want cover from return fire. As much as I could get. I would also have put on my helmet and vest. In addition to the armor plate the vest holds additional ammunition as well as a first aid kit.
They have nothing. Nothing but bluster and intimidation. If the bullets started flying they would likely get hit too. They counted on the intimidation working.
It was dumb. And if the bullets had started flying they may well face criminal charges if they survive. So tactically it is smarter to stay inside with cover and concealment. Logistically it is smarter to stay near your ammo supply and assistance for injury or wounds. Legally it is smarter not to step out and start the confrontation.
Sorry. But that is just the way it is.
If the McCloskeys have tremendous insurance, escaping out the back and letting the rioters burn the joint might have been a better solution. They could use the insurance money to rebuild in the suburbs, where they don't have this kind of civil unrest.
What the McCloskeys did shouldn't be commended. I could see them being nervous.
The McCloskeys won't get in trouble because they're rich white professionals and they will say they were defending themselves. But it is a bad example to set and I don't blame the DA for being concerned about it. Let the police handle it if guns have to be involved. QUIT playing cowboys out there.
They won’t get in trouble because the laws are different there than in Georgia for example. In Georgia it would have been aggravated assault. As the McMichaels found out to their shock.
Personally I probably would have broken out the firepower and then waited inside. At that point if I had to shoot there would be little choice but it being totally defensive. No prosecutor would stand a chance if it went to court claiming either manslaughter or murder.
There's not a single illegal thing about standing on your property with a firearm. Nothing...
Oh lord. In that case in Georgia it could well be Aggravated Assault. It is illegal to use a firearm in a threatening manner. I know. You don’t like the law. You think it is stupid. Whatever. That is the law in Georgia. It would have been smarter to stay inside. You have cover and concealment you do not have in the front Yard. Also there can be no claim that you instigated the confrontation.
Being smart and tactically sound does not appear to be a prerequisite for self defense. If it was me I would want cover from return fire. As much as I could get. I would also have put on my helmet and vest. In addition to the armor plate the vest holds additional ammunition as well as a first aid kit.
They have nothing. Nothing but bluster and intimidation. If the bullets started flying they would likely get hit too. They counted on the intimidation working. There was no plan B if the intimidation failed.
It was dumb. And if the bullets had started flying they may well face criminal charges if they survive. So tactically it is smarter to stay inside with cover and concealment. Logistically it is smarter to stay near your ammo supply and assistance for injury or wounds. Legally it is smarter not to step out and start the confrontation.
Sorry. But that is just the way it is.
If the McCloskeys have tremendous insurance, escaping out the back and letting the rioters burn the joint might have been a better solution. They could use the insurance money to rebuild in the suburbs, where they don't have this kind of civil unrest.
The homeowners did not start the confrontationLegally it is smarter not to step out and start the confrontation.
the rioters entered private property
in this case it was the right thing to do because the rioters left,,if they didnt I can assure you the rioters would still be there today in a bigger number,,,What the McCloskeys did shouldn't be commended. I could see them being nervous.
The McCloskeys won't get in trouble because they're rich white professionals and they will say they were defending themselves. But it is a bad example to set and I don't blame the DA for being concerned about it. Let the police handle it if guns have to be involved. QUIT playing cowboys out there.
They won’t get in trouble because the laws are different there than in Georgia for example. In Georgia it would have been aggravated assault. As the McMichaels found out to their shock.
Personally I probably would have broken out the firepower and then waited inside. At that point if I had to shoot there would be little choice but it being totally defensive. No prosecutor would stand a chance if it went to court claiming either manslaughter or murder.
There's not a single illegal thing about standing on your property with a firearm. Nothing...
Oh lord. In that case in Georgia it could well be Aggravated Assault. It is illegal to use a firearm in a threatening manner. I know. You don’t like the law. You think it is stupid. Whatever. That is the law in Georgia. It would have been smarter to stay inside. You have cover and concealment you do not have in the front Yard. Also there can be no claim that you instigated the confrontation.
Being smart and tactically sound does not appear to be a prerequisite for self defense. If it was me I would want cover from return fire. As much as I could get. I would also have put on my helmet and vest. In addition to the armor plate the vest holds additional ammunition as well as a first aid kit.
They have nothing. Nothing but bluster and intimidation. If the bullets started flying they would likely get hit too. They counted on the intimidation working. There was no plan B if the intimidation failed.
It was dumb. And if the bullets had started flying they may well face criminal charges if they survive. So tactically it is smarter to stay inside with cover and concealment. Logistically it is smarter to stay near your ammo supply and assistance for injury or wounds. Legally it is smarter not to step out and start the confrontation.
Sorry. But that is just the way it is.
If the McCloskeys have tremendous insurance, escaping out the back and letting the rioters burn the joint might have been a better solution. They could use the insurance money to rebuild in the suburbs, where they don't have this kind of civil unrest.
I’m for defending your home. But I am also for doing it smart. Going out is good for the ego, but dumb in every way imaginable.
Oh lord. In that case in Georgia it could well be Aggravated Assault. It is illegal to use a firearm in a threatening manner. I know. You don’t like the law. You think it is stupid. Whatever. That is the law in Georgia. It would have been smarter to stay inside. You have cover and concealment you do not have in the front Yard. Also there can be no claim that you instigated the confrontation.
They're on their property. As long as he doesn't draw down on the protesters with that AR, he's fine.
And, this may shock you, but we're not discussing the law in Georgia. You're only making yourself look silly by bringing it up as though it matters...
Being smart and tactically sound does not appear to be a prerequisite for self defense. If it was me I would want cover from return fire. As much as I could get. I would also have put on my helmet and vest. In addition to the armor plate the vest holds additional ammunition as well as a first aid kit.
Okay, Hondo...
They have nothing. Nothing but bluster and intimidation. If the bullets started flying they would likely get hit too. They counted on the intimidation working.
Looks like ti did...
It was dumb. And if the bullets had started flying they may well face criminal charges if they survive. So tactically it is smarter to stay inside with cover and concealment. Logistically it is smarter to stay near your ammo supply and assistance for injury or wounds. Legally it is smarter not to step out and start the confrontation.
Sorry. But that is just the way it is.
In your little fantasy world I'm sure it is...
So were the lootersThe Homeowners were incredibly dumb, and lucky.
in this case it was the right thing to do because the rioters left,,if they didnt I can assure you the rioters would still be there today in a bigger number,,,What the McCloskeys did shouldn't be commended. I could see them being nervous.
The McCloskeys won't get in trouble because they're rich white professionals and they will say they were defending themselves. But it is a bad example to set and I don't blame the DA for being concerned about it. Let the police handle it if guns have to be involved. QUIT playing cowboys out there.
They won’t get in trouble because the laws are different there than in Georgia for example. In Georgia it would have been aggravated assault. As the McMichaels found out to their shock.
Personally I probably would have broken out the firepower and then waited inside. At that point if I had to shoot there would be little choice but it being totally defensive. No prosecutor would stand a chance if it went to court claiming either manslaughter or murder.
There's not a single illegal thing about standing on your property with a firearm. Nothing...
Oh lord. In that case in Georgia it could well be Aggravated Assault. It is illegal to use a firearm in a threatening manner. I know. You don’t like the law. You think it is stupid. Whatever. That is the law in Georgia. It would have been smarter to stay inside. You have cover and concealment you do not have in the front Yard. Also there can be no claim that you instigated the confrontation.
Being smart and tactically sound does not appear to be a prerequisite for self defense. If it was me I would want cover from return fire. As much as I could get. I would also have put on my helmet and vest. In addition to the armor plate the vest holds additional ammunition as well as a first aid kit.
They have nothing. Nothing but bluster and intimidation. If the bullets started flying they would likely get hit too. They counted on the intimidation working. There was no plan B if the intimidation failed.
It was dumb. And if the bullets had started flying they may well face criminal charges if they survive. So tactically it is smarter to stay inside with cover and concealment. Logistically it is smarter to stay near your ammo supply and assistance for injury or wounds. Legally it is smarter not to step out and start the confrontation.
Sorry. But that is just the way it is.
If the McCloskeys have tremendous insurance, escaping out the back and letting the rioters burn the joint might have been a better solution. They could use the insurance money to rebuild in the suburbs, where they don't have this kind of civil unrest.
I’m for defending your home. But I am also for doing it smart. Going out is good for the ego, but dumb in every way imaginable.
maybe,,,but as we saw the results were positive,,,in this case it was the right thing to do because the rioters left,,if they didnt I can assure you the rioters would still be there today in a bigger number,,,What the McCloskeys did shouldn't be commended. I could see them being nervous.
The McCloskeys won't get in trouble because they're rich white professionals and they will say they were defending themselves. But it is a bad example to set and I don't blame the DA for being concerned about it. Let the police handle it if guns have to be involved. QUIT playing cowboys out there.
They won’t get in trouble because the laws are different there than in Georgia for example. In Georgia it would have been aggravated assault. As the McMichaels found out to their shock.
Personally I probably would have broken out the firepower and then waited inside. At that point if I had to shoot there would be little choice but it being totally defensive. No prosecutor would stand a chance if it went to court claiming either manslaughter or murder.
There's not a single illegal thing about standing on your property with a firearm. Nothing...
Oh lord. In that case in Georgia it could well be Aggravated Assault. It is illegal to use a firearm in a threatening manner. I know. You don’t like the law. You think it is stupid. Whatever. That is the law in Georgia. It would have been smarter to stay inside. You have cover and concealment you do not have in the front Yard. Also there can be no claim that you instigated the confrontation.
Being smart and tactically sound does not appear to be a prerequisite for self defense. If it was me I would want cover from return fire. As much as I could get. I would also have put on my helmet and vest. In addition to the armor plate the vest holds additional ammunition as well as a first aid kit.
They have nothing. Nothing but bluster and intimidation. If the bullets started flying they would likely get hit too. They counted on the intimidation working. There was no plan B if the intimidation failed.
It was dumb. And if the bullets had started flying they may well face criminal charges if they survive. So tactically it is smarter to stay inside with cover and concealment. Logistically it is smarter to stay near your ammo supply and assistance for injury or wounds. Legally it is smarter not to step out and start the confrontation.
Sorry. But that is just the way it is.
If the McCloskeys have tremendous insurance, escaping out the back and letting the rioters burn the joint might have been a better solution. They could use the insurance money to rebuild in the suburbs, where they don't have this kind of civil unrest.
I’m for defending your home. But I am also for doing it smart. Going out is good for the ego, but dumb in every way imaginable.
It was dumb. They were lucky it worked. If it had gone sideways they were without cover, support, or anything else they would desperately wish for. It was dumb. All it would have taken is one jackass from the crowd to fire one round, just one. Any unarmed people trespassing who got shot would not be justified. They would not be written off as poor bastards stuck in the crossfire like when cops shoot into a crowd. They would have been victims and then multiple counts of at least reckless endangerment.
Going out like that counts on everything working exactly as you hope. Like Hitler invading the Soviet Union. Every single thing had to break his way for the plan to work. If one thing went wrong, he and Nazi Germany were doomed. ThIs time they got lucky. I keep saying lucky because it was luck.
And it doesn’t matter how right you were, if you are dead. You could have been in the running for Sainthood, but dead, you’re just worm food. It is why the rules for Combat are written in the blood of those who learned the lessons the hard way. Cover, concealment, and good defensive positions have won more battles than ego and intimidation ever have.
One good thing about the likely election of the Honorable Joseph R. Biden, Jr., is that the Dems will be able to get the militants to cool it.
The Dems know how to work with the militants in order to get them to stand down.
The militants will be asked to stop frightening good people by going into nice neighborhoods.
In return, the militants will be given financial rewards, appointments to government jobs, and the kind of legislation that they have been demanding.
I plan to vote for President Trump, but I acknowledge that his election would probably lead to violence the likes of which this nation has never seen since 1861.
The street violence, exacerbated by the pandemic tragedy, is tearing this country apart in a way that no one could have possibly imagined when 2020 dawned.
I do not think that I am being a Chicken Little.
All I have to say to this post?
FUCK THAT!!!!
You dont appease mobs,you wipe em out.
With all due respect, Americans would NOT tolerate wiping out the mob.
This is not South Africa during Apartheid or China during Tiananmen Square.
But -- ironically -- if the militants of that movement (whose initials I refuse to say/write) ever become dominant, it might indeed have no compunctions about wiping out its opponents.
Let's all hope President Biden (or the people who will actually run the government in his name) will be able to persuade the mob to calm down. Giving them a lot of goodies has worked in the past.
It is why the rules for Combat are written in the blood of those who learned the lessons the hard way.
maybe,,,but as we saw the results were positive,,,in this case it was the right thing to do because the rioters left,,if they didnt I can assure you the rioters would still be there today in a bigger number,,,What the McCloskeys did shouldn't be commended. I could see them being nervous.
The McCloskeys won't get in trouble because they're rich white professionals and they will say they were defending themselves. But it is a bad example to set and I don't blame the DA for being concerned about it. Let the police handle it if guns have to be involved. QUIT playing cowboys out there.
They won’t get in trouble because the laws are different there than in Georgia for example. In Georgia it would have been aggravated assault. As the McMichaels found out to their shock.
Personally I probably would have broken out the firepower and then waited inside. At that point if I had to shoot there would be little choice but it being totally defensive. No prosecutor would stand a chance if it went to court claiming either manslaughter or murder.
There's not a single illegal thing about standing on your property with a firearm. Nothing...
Oh lord. In that case in Georgia it could well be Aggravated Assault. It is illegal to use a firearm in a threatening manner. I know. You don’t like the law. You think it is stupid. Whatever. That is the law in Georgia. It would have been smarter to stay inside. You have cover and concealment you do not have in the front Yard. Also there can be no claim that you instigated the confrontation.
Being smart and tactically sound does not appear to be a prerequisite for self defense. If it was me I would want cover from return fire. As much as I could get. I would also have put on my helmet and vest. In addition to the armor plate the vest holds additional ammunition as well as a first aid kit.
They have nothing. Nothing but bluster and intimidation. If the bullets started flying they would likely get hit too. They counted on the intimidation working. There was no plan B if the intimidation failed.
It was dumb. And if the bullets had started flying they may well face criminal charges if they survive. So tactically it is smarter to stay inside with cover and concealment. Logistically it is smarter to stay near your ammo supply and assistance for injury or wounds. Legally it is smarter not to step out and start the confrontation.
Sorry. But that is just the way it is.
If the McCloskeys have tremendous insurance, escaping out the back and letting the rioters burn the joint might have been a better solution. They could use the insurance money to rebuild in the suburbs, where they don't have this kind of civil unrest.
I’m for defending your home. But I am also for doing it smart. Going out is good for the ego, but dumb in every way imaginable.
It was dumb. They were lucky it worked. If it had gone sideways they were without cover, support, or anything else they would desperately wish for. It was dumb. All it would have taken is one jackass from the crowd to fire one round, just one. Any unarmed people trespassing who got shot would not be justified. They would not be written off as poor bastards stuck in the crossfire like when cops shoot into a crowd. They would have been victims and then multiple counts of at least reckless endangerment.
Going out like that counts on everything working exactly as you hope. Like Hitler invading the Soviet Union. Every single thing had to break his way for the plan to work. If one thing went wrong, he and Nazi Germany were doomed. ThIs time they got lucky. I keep saying lucky because it was luck.
And it doesn’t matter how right you were, if you are dead. You could have been in the running for Sainthood, but dead, you’re just worm food. It is why the rules for Combat are written in the blood of those who learned the lessons the hard way. Cover, concealment, and good defensive positions have won more battles than ego and intimidation ever have.
maybe,,,maybe,,,but as we saw the results were positive,,,in this case it was the right thing to do because the rioters left,,if they didnt I can assure you the rioters would still be there today in a bigger number,,,What the McCloskeys did shouldn't be commended. I could see them being nervous.
The McCloskeys won't get in trouble because they're rich white professionals and they will say they were defending themselves. But it is a bad example to set and I don't blame the DA for being concerned about it. Let the police handle it if guns have to be involved. QUIT playing cowboys out there.
They won’t get in trouble because the laws are different there than in Georgia for example. In Georgia it would have been aggravated assault. As the McMichaels found out to their shock.
Personally I probably would have broken out the firepower and then waited inside. At that point if I had to shoot there would be little choice but it being totally defensive. No prosecutor would stand a chance if it went to court claiming either manslaughter or murder.
There's not a single illegal thing about standing on your property with a firearm. Nothing...
Oh lord. In that case in Georgia it could well be Aggravated Assault. It is illegal to use a firearm in a threatening manner. I know. You don’t like the law. You think it is stupid. Whatever. That is the law in Georgia. It would have been smarter to stay inside. You have cover and concealment you do not have in the front Yard. Also there can be no claim that you instigated the confrontation.
Being smart and tactically sound does not appear to be a prerequisite for self defense. If it was me I would want cover from return fire. As much as I could get. I would also have put on my helmet and vest. In addition to the armor plate the vest holds additional ammunition as well as a first aid kit.
They have nothing. Nothing but bluster and intimidation. If the bullets started flying they would likely get hit too. They counted on the intimidation working. There was no plan B if the intimidation failed.
It was dumb. And if the bullets had started flying they may well face criminal charges if they survive. So tactically it is smarter to stay inside with cover and concealment. Logistically it is smarter to stay near your ammo supply and assistance for injury or wounds. Legally it is smarter not to step out and start the confrontation.
Sorry. But that is just the way it is.
If the McCloskeys have tremendous insurance, escaping out the back and letting the rioters burn the joint might have been a better solution. They could use the insurance money to rebuild in the suburbs, where they don't have this kind of civil unrest.
I’m for defending your home. But I am also for doing it smart. Going out is good for the ego, but dumb in every way imaginable.
It was dumb. They were lucky it worked. If it had gone sideways they were without cover, support, or anything else they would desperately wish for. It was dumb. All it would have taken is one jackass from the crowd to fire one round, just one. Any unarmed people trespassing who got shot would not be justified. They would not be written off as poor bastards stuck in the crossfire like when cops shoot into a crowd. They would have been victims and then multiple counts of at least reckless endangerment.
Going out like that counts on everything working exactly as you hope. Like Hitler invading the Soviet Union. Every single thing had to break his way for the plan to work. If one thing went wrong, he and Nazi Germany were doomed. ThIs time they got lucky. I keep saying lucky because it was luck.
And it doesn’t matter how right you were, if you are dead. You could have been in the running for Sainthood, but dead, you’re just worm food. It is why the rules for Combat are written in the blood of those who learned the lessons the hard way. Cover, concealment, and good defensive positions have won more battles than ego and intimidation ever have.
Imagine this, the man in front of you bets a million dollars on Roulette. He bets 32. As an unbelievable bit of luck, the fellow wins. The ball lands in 32. He takes his winnings and walks away. Now, lauding that fellow is what the Casino will do, posting his pictures all over to show the suckers that they can win big at the Casino, when everyone else loses many millions at the same table.
Saying the first fellow is lucky, and anyone else would be a fool to follow in his footsteps is good advice when we are talking about gambling. However, for some reason, we laude the same idiot with skill when we are talking about stepping into a tactically bad situation, and coming out in one piece victorious.
Nothing wrong with having guns for defense, but it is illegal to point a gun at someone unless you have legal justification for killing someone. Its called reckless endangerment because all it takes is a flinch and it can go off.
It is why the rules for Combat are written in the blood of those who learned the lessons the hard way.
LOL... Okay, there, Patton...
Nothing wrong with having guns for defense, but it is illegal to point a gun at someone unless you have legal justification for killing someone. Its called reckless endangerment because all it takes is a flinch and it can go off.
I am fascinated. Are you suggesting that if a crowd of people representing a group already known for vandalism, looting and assault ASSEMBLE at one's front lawn-----if the owner has a gun, he cannot brandish it?
"legal justification for killing" As far as I know, confrontation with a potential robber or looter is not
LEGAL JUSTIFICATION FOR KILLING. Your post makes no sense but some people seem to have agreed with it
If they defended their life and property then they perpetuate the misery of the downtrodden who are merely, humbly seeking assistance toward a better life. If these whites have the privilege of a good life then why not the Burn Loot and Murder .????
