Homeowner sees strangers as trespassers. Not Law & Justice or 2nd Amendment Forums: “Oh s---, my gun went off, I want to speak with my lawyer."

[Dante]

When you make bad choices, you get bad results a lot of the time.

Imagine a volunteer for a Republican candidate, walking on private property in order to get the attention of a homeowner

 

[DukeU]

Imagine a volunteer for a Republican candidate, walking on private property in order to get the attention of a homeowner

Imagine someone jumping your fence and entering your property.

 

[DukeU]

Procrustes Stretched

Is it fake news that this kid had a bad result?

 

[Burgermeister]

This sounds like BS. Teenage boys so struck by a beautiful setting for a picture together? Went back to the car to write a note to people who aren't home? What, to make an appointment to take a picture together?

I don't buy any of it.

 

[Rogue AI]

You don't get to shoot people for walking on your property.

I never you did. Just noting the facts. There is absolutely no reason to skew the facts, it is unnecessary bias.

 

[krichton]

One of the teens picked up the other at Dakota Ridge High School near Littleton on Tuesday afternoon. The long-time friends left school with a mission to find a picturesque site for homecoming photos, beginning in Ken Caryl Valley and then going up Deer Creek Canyon. When they spotted the home on Pleasant Park Road with a lake and a dock, they decided to hop the fence and ask the homeowner for permission to return the night of the homecoming dance to take photos.

Story said they hopped a split rail fence, which is not a security measure against intruders.

I love how the BF was going over there to play sheriff. This is the real reason a lot of ppl buy guns. It's not to protect their homes.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Imagine someone jumping your fence and entering your property.

doesn't give you the right to shoot them.

 

[DukeU]

Story said they hopped a split rail fence, which is not a security measure against intruders.

I love how the BF was going over there to play sheriff. This is the real reason a lot of ppl buy guns. It's not to protect their homes.

A split rail fence marks the boundaries of property, they should have respected those boundaries.

But I don't see where it specifies which type of fence?

People buy guns for many reasons.

 

[DukeU]

doesn't give you the right to shoot them.

I never said it did.

But, jumping a fence and entering someone's property puts you in danger of someone else making a poor decision, as the story shows.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

“Oh s---, my gun went off, I want to speak with my lawyer."

A homeowner saw strangers on her property. She assumed they were trespassers. She called LE and her boyfriend who is a local government official. Boyfriend got to scene first. Shot an innocent young man, a teenager in the face.

This to me is what happens when people who fear everyone and everything, who see others as a danger, who have a horrible view of the world are armed and act before they can possibly know information about what is happening, why, how...

snippets:

Around 3:30 p.m. Tuesday in Littleton, Colo., the teenager who would end up getting shot picked up another boy from Dakota Ridge High School in his white Audi S4, Jefferson County sheriff’s deputy Caleb Harman wrote in a sworn affidavit for Metz’s arrest. The two have known each other since they were children since their parents are good friends.

The teens drove to the idyllic Ken-Caryl Ranch before heading southwest up Deer Creek Canyon...There they saw a house with a lake and a dock that caught their eye and decided to ask the homeowner for permission to take pictures near the lake.

The boys...walked up the driveway to the house to knock on the door and, when there was no answer, returned back down the driveway to the car, Harman said...one got ...a piece of paper from a notebook and write a note to the homeowner pleading their case, he added.

What the boys didn’t know was that even though nobody was home, the property owner had called Jefferson County emergency communications and her boyfriend to report them as trespassers, and both Metz and deputies were on their way, authorities said.

Harman arrived at the property at 4:28 p.m. to find one of the boys was “bleeding heavily from his face and had blood running down his arm.” One of the boys told him that Metz had fired the gun, and when Harman checked with Metz, he didn’t answer, saying he wanted to speak with his lawyer...

Metz and his lawyer did not immediately respond Friday to requests for comment from The Washington Post.

The teen survived and has been released from the hospital.

“Oh s---, my gun went off, I want to speak with my lawyer."

Wow

I'd turn in all my guns if I didn't already lose them in a tragic boating accident



Get off my lawn

 

[krichton]

A split rail fence marks the boundaries of property, they should have respected those boundaries.

But I don't see where it specifies which type of fence?

People buy guns for many reasons.

It was in the story

To a teenager a split rail fence is there to be climbed over. It’s just that simple. Teens will be teens. No one, including adults respect those fences as some sort of strict boundary you can’t use as a shortcut.

 

[krichton]

I never said it did.

But, jumping a fence and entering someone's property puts you in danger of someone else making a poor decision, as the story shows.

Who would ever imagine being shot for climbing over a fence in your teeny small town where every knows everyone?

 

[DukeU]

It was in the story

To a teenager a split rail fence is there to be climbed over. It’s just that simple. Teens will be teens. No one, including adults respect those fences as some sort of strict boundary you can’t use as a shortcut.

Property owners will be property owners too.

"No one respects property lines?????

LOL

If you don't, you could end up like this teen.

 

[DukeU]

Who would ever imagine being shot for climbing over a fence in your teeny small town where every knows everyone?

This kind of thing never happens.

 

[whitehall]

On the other hand illegal alien trespassers see Americans as chumps and mostly unarmed.

 

[krichton]

Property owners will be property owners too.

"No one respects property lines?????

LOL

If you don't, you could end up like this teen.

But it wasn't a property owner was it? It was the boyfriend of the property owner who raced over there with his gun.

The shooting happened after they got back to their car to write a note for the owner. They were no longer even on the property at that time. That's where the shooting happened.

 

[krichton]

This kind of thing never happens.

So you expect to be murdered just for knocking at the door at someone's house? If this is the expectation then there is something very very wrong in America.

 

[DukeU]

But it wasn't a property owner was it? It was the boyfriend of the property owner who raced over there with his gun.

The shooting happened after they got back to their car to write a note for the owner. They were no longer even on the property at that time. That's where the shooting happened.

And boyfriends will be boyfriends.

Good catch,

 

[DukeU]

So you expect to be murdered just for knocking at the door at someone's house? If this is the expectation then there is something very very wrong in America.

I don't go on stranger's property and knock on their door, so no.

 

[krichton]

I don't go on stranger's property and knock on their door, so no.

The question remains, is it a normal expectation to be killed in America for doing so?