USS Liberty Survivor Phil Tourney Blasts Trump Iran Attack: "Here We Go Again...No More Wars for Israel," Says Trump Compromised by Epstein

[georgephillip]

Bullshit. The Liberty collected signal intelligence from both Israel and Egypt and there is no basis for your bizarre allegations.

There was a public hearing at the time, the Naval Board of Inquiry, in which the whole crew of the Liberty testified, and the conclusion was that at the time of the attack, Israel was unaware the Liberty was a US ship.

There was never any public hearing, and Liberty's crew was prevented from testifying about the actual assault.

The crew was also threatened with prison if they spoke about Israel's murderous attack to anyone including their families.

USS Liberty Memorial

"The Attack

"After surveilling USS Liberty for more than nine hours with almost hourly aircraft overflights and radar tracking, the air and naval forces of Israel attacked our ship in international waters without warning.

"USS Liberty was identified as a US naval ship by Israeli reconnaissance aircraft nine hours before the attack and continuously tracked by Israeli radar and aircraft thereafter.

"Sailing in international waters at less than five knots, with no offensive armament, our ship was not a military threat to anyone.

"The Israeli forces attacked without warning and without attempting to contact us. Thirty four Americans were killed in the attack and another 174 were wounded.

"The ship, a $40-million dollar state-of-the-art signals intelligence platform, was later declared unsalvageable and sold for scrap."

 

[georgephillip]

No, they already ended the regime in Iran. Whatever we get now will be a new regime.

When did the IRGC collapse?

The Islamic Republic's governing and security apparatuses remain largely intact in spite of the best efforts of western terrorists

GoogleAI Overview:

"Current Status of the Iranian Leadership

• "Death of Supreme Leader: Ayatollah Ali Khamenei was killed in late February 2026 during a series of U.S. and Israeli airstrikes targeting Tehran.
• Governance Continuity: Despite the loss of its 'apex figure,' the regime has moved quickly to activate constitutional mechanisms for succession. The Assembly of Experts, an 88-member clerical body, is tasked with choosing a new Supreme Leader, a process currently taking place behind closed doors. Military Presence: Iran's massive security structure—including the Artesh (regular army), the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), and the Basij paramilitary—has not collapsed and continues to maintain control."

 

[Godboy]

When did the IRGC collapse?

The Islamic Republic's governing and security apparatuses remain largely intact in spite of the best efforts of western terrorists

GoogleAI Overview:

"Current Status of the Iranian Leadership

• "Death of Supreme Leader: Ayatollah Ali Khamenei was killed in late February 2026 during a series of U.S. and Israeli airstrikes targeting Tehran.
• Governance Continuity: Despite the loss of its 'apex figure,' the regime has moved quickly to activate constitutional mechanisms for succession. The Assembly of Experts, an 88-member clerical body, is tasked with choosing a new Supreme Leader, a process currently taking place behind closed doors. Military Presence: Iran's massive security structure—including the Artesh (regular army), the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), and the Basij paramilitary—has not collapsed and continues to maintain control."

They killed the Ayatollah and his successor son. Then they announced that there was a new successor, and that guy was killed a few hours later. Then the next day all of the top level people got together to determine who would be the new successor, and Israel bombed that meeting, killing everyone there.

Whatever gets cobbled together at this point will not be the same regime. Its going to be an entirely new group of people with new ideas.

 

[georgephillip]

They killed the Ayatollah and his successor son. Then they announced that there was a new successor, and that guy was killed a few hours later. Then the next day all of the top level people got together to determine who would be the new successor, and Israel bombed that meeting, killing everyone there.

Got a link?

"Mojtaba Khamenei survives strikes on Iran, poised to become next supreme leader, sources say"​

Khamenei's son survives Iran strike, set to become leader | The Jerusalem Post

 

[Churchill]

No point in accusing you of something you've made plainly obvious.

Which post of mine did you interpret that way? any examples?

 

[Churchill]

As always, nothing but whacky conspiracy theories from you. What the Israelis wanted to do was to live in peace but the Arabs would have none of it:

War of Extermination​

An October 11, 1947 report on the pan-Arab summit in the Lebanese town of Aley,[9] by Akhbar al-Yom‘s editor Mustafa Amin, contained an interview he held with Arab League secretary-general Azzam. Titled, “A War of Extermination,” the interview read as follows (translated by Efraim Karsh; all ellipses are in the original text):

Abdul Rahman Azzam Pasha spoke to me about the horrific war that was in the offing… saying:

“I personally wish that the Jews do not drive us to this war, as this will be a war of extermination and momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Tartar massacre[10] or the Crusader wars. I believe that the number of volunteers from outside Palestine will be larger than Palestine’s Arab population, for I know that volunteers will be arriving to us from [as far as] India, Afghanistan, and China to win the honor of martyrdom for the sake of Palestine … You might be surprised to learn that hundreds of Englishmen expressed their wish to volunteer in the Arab armies to fight the Jews.

“This war will be distinguished by three serious matters. First—faith: as each fighter deems his death on behalf of Palestine as the shortest road to paradise; second, [the war] will be an opportunity for vast plunder. Third, it will be impossible to contain the zealous volunteers arriving from all corners of the world to avenge the martyrdom of the Palestine Arabs, and viewing the war as dignifying every Arab and every Muslim throughout the world …

“The Arab is superior to the Jew in that he accepts defeat with a smile: Should the Jews defeat us in the first battle, we will defeat them in the second or the third battle … or the final one… whereas one defeat will shatter the Jew’s morale! Most desert Arabians take pleasure in fighting. I recall being tasked with mediating a truce in a desert war (in which I participated) that lasted for nine months…While en route to sign the truce, I was approached by some of my comrades in arms who told me: ‘Shame on you! You are a man of the people, so how could you wish to end the war … How can we live without war?’ This is because war gives the Bedouin a sense of happiness, bliss, and security that peace does not provide! …

“I warned the Jewish leaders I met in London to desist from their policy,[11] telling them that the Arab was the mightiest of soldiers and the day he draws his weapon, he will not lay it down until firing the last bullet in the battle, and we will fire the last shot …"

He [Azzam] ended his conversation with me by saying: “I foresee the consequences of this bloody war. I see before me its horrible battles. I can picture its dead, injured, and victims … But my conscience is clear … For we are not attacking but defending ourselves, and we are not aggressors but defenders against an aggression! …"

Azzam's Genocidal Threat

Of the countless threats of violence, made by Arab and Palestinian leaders in the run up to and in the wake of the November 29, 1947 partition resolution, none has resonated more widely than the warning by Abdul Rahman Azzam, the Arab League's first

www.meforum.org

So a few years after the Holocaust the Arabs were threatening another genocide against the Jews, and it was clear to everyone that is the Israelis were to survive, they would have to become and remain technologically superior to all their would be enemies, and that meant, in part, obtaining the world's most fearsome weapon, the atomic bomb. No other country has ever had a greater need to develop nuclear weapons than Israel did.

Go back further to 1918. The seeds of Arab hostility were planted thirty years before the state of Israel was recognized by the allied powers.

 

[mudwhistle]

Which post of mine did you interpret that way? any examples?

Playing dumb?

Why not accuse me of being an evil Zionist while you're at it.

Funny how you Brits are constantly sucking up to Muslims and letting them take over your country without a fight.

The next reaction from you sellouts is to accuse anyone who supports Israel of being pretty much what you already are with Muslims.

Muslims tell you a bunch of bull shit lies about Jews and they turn you into Nazis, and you can't even see you're being manipulated.

 

[Godboy]

Got a link?

"Mojtaba Khamenei survives strikes on Iran, poised to become next supreme leader, sources say"​

Khamenei's son survives Iran strike, set to become leader | The Jerusalem Post

Oh, then lets revisit this next week. There is a good chance that he will end up back on the list of dead successors by then.

 

[georgephillip]

Oh, then lets revisit this next week. There is a good chance that he will end up back on the list of dead successors by then.

How many dead Jews in Israel are you predicting by this time next week?

 

[Godboy]

How many dead Jews in Israel are you predicting by this time next week?

Very few. Far less than there will be dead Iranian terrorists.

The US is only going to be there for a few weeks. After that, Iran will be crippled and Israel can target the government at will. I imagine that the jews will be kicking muslim ass for a long time over there, unless Iran finds a new government that we approve of.

 

[toomuchtime_]

There was never any public hearing, and Liberty's crew was prevented from testifying about the actual assault.

The crew was also threatened with prison if they spoke about Israel's murderous attack to anyone including their families.

USS Liberty Memorial

"The Attack

"After surveilling USS Liberty for more than nine hours with almost hourly aircraft overflights and radar tracking, the air and naval forces of Israel attacked our ship in international waters without warning.

"USS Liberty was identified as a US naval ship by Israeli reconnaissance aircraft nine hours before the attack and continuously tracked by Israeli radar and aircraft thereafter.

"Sailing in international waters at less than five knots, with no offensive armament, our ship was not a military threat to anyone.

"The Israeli forces attacked without warning and without attempting to contact us. Thirty four Americans were killed in the attack and another 174 were wounded.

"The ship, a $40-million dollar state-of-the-art signals intelligence platform, was later declared unsalvageable and sold for scrap."

There was a naval board of inquiry which was public and the records are still available at the time and the officers and crew testimonies are a matter of record. It concluded what all the investigations concluded, that the attack was accidental.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Go back further to 1918. The seeds of Arab hostility were planted thirty years before the state of Israel was recognized by the allied powers.

Go back even further to the sixth century when Jews were declared second class citizens in all Muslim countries subject to discriminatory taxes and laws which were still enforced in 1918. The Muslims were never willing to live in peace with the Jews until very recently.

 

[Churchill]

Go back even further to the sixth century when Jews were declared second class citizens in all Muslim countries subject to discriminatory taxes and laws which were still enforced in 1918. The Muslims were never willing to live in peace with the Jews until very recently.

Under ottoman rule Jews AND Christians were both subject to dhimmi.

The Arabs in Palestine and its environs routed the Ottomans though, they aided the British in ending Ottoman rule in 1917. So for the first time in 400 years the people (Arabs, Jews, Christians) were free from foreign (Turkish) occupiers.

The British had promised to support the Arabs in their desire for self determination where free and fair elections could be held and an egalitarian society could begin to flourish.

The British betrayed them and already secretly agreed to help setup a Jewish colony on already occupied territory.

That gave rise to Jewish Nationalism pretending to represent an idea known as "Zionism" and that gave rise to Arab nationalism since the majority (Arabs) had been betrayed while a minority (Jews) were granted special privileges to setup their own state.

Things slowly went downhill, the Zionists resorted to terrorism in their quest to create a Jew supremacist state and then Palestine was forcibly partitioned (by external actors) giving the Jew minority exclusive privileges to govern a region of Palestine.

The Arabs resisted (who wouldn't resist colonization after just helping to end 400 years of foreign rule?) and were then labelled by the Zionists as being hostile, and the the Jews as victims of Arab hostility, that's the basis of "goodies vs baddies" narrative that the Zionists have peddled ever since.

The state of Israel is thus a Western colony, created by the West and populated by mainly foreign Jews.

The rest is recent history and we got the Naqba or ethnic cleansing of non-Jews from their own land, forced out of villages they'd lived in for centuries. Most of the villages were renamed by the Zionists, helping to erase history.

The Zionists forced Arabs and Christians alike out of villages they'd dwelled in peacefully for centuries.

That's been the pattern ever since, masses of propaganda used to demonize the Arabs, and portray the Jews as victims, even using the Holocaust (which was not Arabs but Germans) to garner sympathy for the gullible westerners, and its the same today.

 

[Hafar1014]

Under ottoman rule Jews AND Christians were both subject to dhimmi.

The Arabs in Palestine and its environs routed the Ottomans though, they aided the British in ending Ottoman rule in 1917. So for the first time in 400 years the people (Arabs, Jews, Christians) were free from foreign (Turkish) occupiers.

The British had promised to support the Arabs in their desire for self determination where free and fair elections could be held and an egalitarian society could begin to flourish.

The British betrayed them and already secretly agreed to help setup a Jewish colony on already occupied territory.

That gave rise to Jewish Nationalism pretending to represent Zionism and that gave rise to Arab nationalism since the majority (Arabs) had been betrayed while a minority (Jews) were granted special privileges to setup their own state.

Things slowly went downhill, the Zionists resorted to terrorism in their quest to create a Jews supremacist state and then Palestine was forcibly partitioned (by external actors) giving the Jew minority special privileges to govern a region of Palestine.

The rest is recent history and we got the Naqba or ethnic cleansing of non-Jews from their own land, forced out of villages they'd lived in for centuries. Most of the villages were renamed by the Zionists, helping to erase history.

Youre a Muslim pretending to be someone else. Churchill my ass

 

[Churchill]

Youre a Muslim pretending to be someone else. Churchill my ass

Please, no ad hominem arguments.

If you disagree with something I wrote then challenge it, don't rely on personal attacks, it only weakens your case (if you even have one).

Everything I said above is in the history books, deal with it.

 

[Churchill]

There was a naval board of inquiry which was public and the records are still available at the time and the officers and crew testimonies are a matter of record. It concluded what all the investigations concluded, that the attack was accidental.

There was an inquiry too when trump claimed he won the 2020 election, that found that he'd lost plain and simple, yet goons like you still cry it was stolen - look in a mirror.

 

[georgephillip]

There was a naval board of inquiry which was public and the records are still available at the time and the officers and crew testimonies are a matter of record. It concluded what all the investigations concluded, that the attack was accidental.

Your opinions are not shared by the eyewitnesses to Israel's deliberate attack on Liberty:

[td]

"Haven't there been numerous US investigations into the attack?

A:

"No there haven't. No US governmental entity has ever undertaken an investigation into the culpability for the attack. There have been investigations into the seamanship of the crew (US Navy Court of Inquiry), the message handling procedures of the US military (The JCS Russ Report), and other attempts to report publicly reported facts. No agency or other institution has ever conducted a fact finding investigation into the question of why the Israelis launched the attack and their prior knowledge that USS Liberty was a US Navy ship.

[/td]​

[td]

Q:	"What about Congressional investigations?

A:

"There have been no Congressional investigations. One of the more prominent Israeli propagandists, AJ Cristol, created this allegation in the mold of the 'Big Lie' technique of the 1930's ("if you tell a big enough lie often enough, people will come to believe it')." F.A.Q. - Numerous investigations

[/td]​

 

[georgephillip]

Go back even further to the sixth century when Jews were declared second class citizens in all Muslim countries subject to discriminatory taxes and laws which were still enforced in 1918. The Muslims were never willing to live in peace with the Jews until very recently.

When was the last time Muslims waged genocide against Jews?

Israel’s Admission of Genocide

"Since October 7, 2023, Israeli cabinet ministers, political figures, military officers and media pundits have openly and endlessly incited for the destruction of Gaza and its Palestinian inhabitants.

"Already by December 2023, South Africa had compiled an extensive record of these statements for its submission to the International Court of Justice (ICJ) alleging that Israel intended to perpetrate genocide in the Palestinian enclave."

 

[theHawk]

The Israelis will stop at nothing, the ideology is extremist, they do not care, they do not care about Christians, Muslims or Jews (unless they are Zionist Jews)

Agreed.

Unfortunately our boomer generation was brainwashed into worshipping Israel and hold Jews in high esteem. All because you know, the holly.

 

[theHawk]

When was the last time Muslims waged genocide against Jews

Oct 7.

Hezbollah took the bait and murdered a bunch of women and children. Kind of lost any sympathy there.