Using Vitamin C finally

[eddiew]

Winn Dixie only had the store brand left and only 500's not 1000's

I hope you bought it.

2 bottles and some D too and on another note tons of toilet paper

Hoarder!!!

No No I didn't buy the toilet paper I have enough Some even with trumps picture on them I was just saying the store had plenty

 

[MisterBeale]

Forget the flu shot. It’s worthless. Never got one in my 62 years and have caught the flu only twice.

Secondly you won’t get enough C from OJ. You need huge doses of C to take out the flu. 50,000mg or more taken throughout the day in divided doses. You take as much as is needed to reach bowel tolerance.

In this crises? The flu shot is less the worthless, it's actually dangerous.

https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/prestigious-vaccine-journal-flu-vaccine-increases-coronavirus-infection-risk-36-3?fbclid=IwAR1baILWrMGMk-tsJSQ-
pAUMGq_6i39snUIrb4gk4vpsJkFRYGWyrPwDbVQ

Influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017–2018 influenza season

Prestigious VACCINE Journal: Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Infection Risk 36%

And yet? The establishment is putting out dangerous information? WHY?

Prestigious VACCINE Journal: Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Infection Risk 36%

A new study published in the prestigious journal Vaccine reveals that influenza vaccination may increase the risk of infection from other respiratory viruses -- a phenomenon known as virus interference.

www.greenmedinfo.com

Influenza Vaccine: Military Study Shows 36% Higher Odds Of Coronavirus, 2017-2018

A recent military study shows military personnel evaluated who received the flu vaccine were at 36 percent higher odds of testing positive for coronavirus (pre-SARS CoV2) with varied benefit in pre…

www.disabledveterans.org

Influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017â2018 influenza season

Receiving influenza vaccination may increase the risk of other respiratory viruses, a phenomenon known as virus interference. Test-negative study desi…

www.sciencedirect.com

Do not spread fake news. You could cost people their lives.

You know, I was a bit skeptical of this study as well, my buddy and I were discussing it, but it is from an internationally recognized and accredited source. HE pointed out that the control group was only 3000 people, and then I told him, did he look into whether it was a peer review, or if it had been peer reviewed.

As it turns out, this IS the peer review.


References
[1]National Vaccine Information Center. What is the History of Influenza Vaccine Use in America? <What is the History of Influenza Vaccine Use in America? - NVIC> 2019.
Google Scholar
[2]
J.J. Treanor, H.K. Talbot, S.E. Ohmit, et al.Effectiveness of seasonal influenza vaccines in the United States during a season with circulation of all three vaccine strains
Clin Infect Dis, 55 (7) (2012), pp. 951-959
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[3]
S.E. Ohmit, M.G. Thompson, J.G. Petrie, et al.Influenza vaccine effectiveness in the 2011–2012 season: protection against each circulating virus and the effect of prior vaccination on estimates
Clin Infect Dis, 58 (3) (2014), pp. 319-327
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[4]
H.Q. McLean, M.G. Thompson, M.E. Sundaram, et al.Influenza vaccine effectiveness in the United States during 2012–2013: variable protection by age and virus type
J Infect Dis, 211 (10) (2015), pp. 1529-1540
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[5]
M.L. Jackson, J.R. Chung, L.A. Jackson, et al.Influenza Vaccine Effectiveness in the United States during the 2015–2016 Season
N Engl J Med, 377 (6) (2017), pp. 534-543
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[6]Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Seasonal Influenza Vaccine Effectiveness, 2004-2018. <https://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/vaccination/effectiveness-studies.htm> 22 February 2019.
Google Scholar
[7]
M. Suzuki, A. Camacho, K. AriyoshiPotential effect of virus interference on influenza vaccine effectiveness estimates in test-negative designs
Epidemiol Infect, 142 (2014), pp. 2642-2646
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[8]
B.J. Cowling, V.J. Fang, J.S.M. Peiris, et al.Increased risk of noninfluenza respiratory virus infections associated with receipt of inactivated influenza vaccine
Clin Infect Dis, 54 (2012), pp. 1778-1783
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[9]
S. Feng, A. Fowlkes, A. Steffens, L. Finelli, B. CowlingAssessment of virus interference in a test-negative study of influenza vaccine effectiveness
Epidemiology, 28 (4) (2017), pp. 514-524
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[10]
B.J. Cowling, H. NishiuraVirus interference and estimates of influenza vaccine effectiveness from test-negative studies
Epidemiology., 23 (6) (2012), pp. 930-931
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[11]
S. Rikin, H. Jia, M. Stockwell, et al.Assessment of temporally-related acute respiratory illness following influenza vaccination
Vaccine, 36 (2018), pp. 1958-1964
Article
Download PDFView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[12]
M.E. Sundaram, D.L. McClure, E.A. Belongia, et al.Influenza vaccination is not associated with detection of noninfluenza respiratory viruses in seasonal studies of influenza vaccine effectiveness
Clin Infect Dis, 57 (2013 September), pp. 789-793
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[13]
Defense Health AgencySeasonal Influenza Vaccination Program (IVP)
Defense Health Agency, Falls Church, Virginia (2018), pp. 1-23
Interim Procedures Memorandum 18-005
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[14]NxTAG Respiratory Pathogen Panel [package insert]. Toronto, Ontario, Canada: Luminex; 2016.
Google Scholar
[15]Biofire FilmArray Respiratory Pathogen Panel [package insert]. Salt Lake City, Utah, USA; 28 June 2017.
Google Scholar
[16]CDC Influenza A Subtyping Kit (Version 2) [package insert]. Atlanta, Georgia, USA; 22 July 2016.
Google Scholar
[17]CDC Influenza A/B Subtyping Kit [package insert]. Atlanta, Georgia, USA; 23 March 2016.
Google Scholar
[18]
I. Foppa, M. Haber, J. Ferdinands, et al.The case test-negative design for studies of the effectiveness of influenza vaccine
Vaccine, 31 (June) (2013), pp. 3104-3109
Article
Download PDFView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[19]
M. Jackson, J. NelsonThe test-negative design for estimating influenza vaccine effectiveness
Vaccine, 31 (April) (2013), pp. 2165-2168
Article
Download PDFView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[20]
I. Foppa, J. Ferdinands, S. Chaves, et al.The case test-negative design for studies of the effectiveness of influenza vaccine in inpatient settings
Int J Epidemiol, 6 (2016), p. 2052
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[21]
S. Sullivan, E. Tchetgen Tchetgen, B. CowlingTheoretical basis of the test-negative study design for assessment of influenza vaccine effectiveness
Am J Epidemiol, 5 (2016), p. 345
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[22]
R. Coleman, A. Eick-Cost, A.W. Hawksworth, et al.Department of defense end-of-season influenza vaccine effectiveness estimates for the 2017–2018 season
MSMR, 25 (10) (2018), p. 16
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[23]Cooper M. DoD Influenza Surveillance and Vaccine Effectiveness. In: Oral presentation at: The Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC) Meeting; February 28, 2014; Silver Spring, MD.
Google Scholar

 

[Crepitus]

Forget the flu shot. It’s worthless. Never got one in my 62 years and have caught the flu only twice.

Secondly you won’t get enough C from OJ. You need huge doses of C to take out the flu. 50,000mg or more taken throughout the day in divided doses. You take as much as is needed to reach bowel tolerance.

In this crises? The flu shot is less the worthless, it's actually dangerous.

https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/prestigious-vaccine-journal-flu-vaccine-increases-coronavirus-infection-risk-36-3?fbclid=IwAR1baILWrMGMk-tsJSQ-
pAUMGq_6i39snUIrb4gk4vpsJkFRYGWyrPwDbVQ

Influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017–2018 influenza season

Prestigious VACCINE Journal: Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Infection Risk 36%

And yet? The establishment is putting out dangerous information? WHY?

Prestigious VACCINE Journal: Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Infection Risk 36%

A new study published in the prestigious journal Vaccine reveals that influenza vaccination may increase the risk of infection from other respiratory viruses -- a phenomenon known as virus interference.

www.greenmedinfo.com

Influenza Vaccine: Military Study Shows 36% Higher Odds Of Coronavirus, 2017-2018

A recent military study shows military personnel evaluated who received the flu vaccine were at 36 percent higher odds of testing positive for coronavirus (pre-SARS CoV2) with varied benefit in pre…

www.disabledveterans.org

Influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017â2018 influenza season

Receiving influenza vaccination may increase the risk of other respiratory viruses, a phenomenon known as virus interference. Test-negative study desi…

www.sciencedirect.com

Do not spread fake news. You could cost people their lives.

You know, I was a bit skeptical of this study as well, my buddy and I were discussing it, but it is from an internationally recognized and accredited source. HE pointed out that the control group was only 3000 people, and then I told him, did he look into whether it was a peer review, or if it had been peer reviewed.

As it turns out, this IS the peer review.


References
[1]National Vaccine Information Center. What is the History of Influenza Vaccine Use in America? <What is the History of Influenza Vaccine Use in America? - NVIC> 2019.
Google Scholar
[2]
J.J. Treanor, H.K. Talbot, S.E. Ohmit, et al.Effectiveness of seasonal influenza vaccines in the United States during a season with circulation of all three vaccine strains
Clin Infect Dis, 55 (7) (2012), pp. 951-959
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[3]
S.E. Ohmit, M.G. Thompson, J.G. Petrie, et al.Influenza vaccine effectiveness in the 2011–2012 season: protection against each circulating virus and the effect of prior vaccination on estimates
Clin Infect Dis, 58 (3) (2014), pp. 319-327
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[4]
H.Q. McLean, M.G. Thompson, M.E. Sundaram, et al.Influenza vaccine effectiveness in the United States during 2012–2013: variable protection by age and virus type
J Infect Dis, 211 (10) (2015), pp. 1529-1540
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[5]
M.L. Jackson, J.R. Chung, L.A. Jackson, et al.Influenza Vaccine Effectiveness in the United States during the 2015–2016 Season
N Engl J Med, 377 (6) (2017), pp. 534-543
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[6]Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Seasonal Influenza Vaccine Effectiveness, 2004-2018. <https://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/vaccination/effectiveness-studies.htm> 22 February 2019.
Google Scholar
[7]
M. Suzuki, A. Camacho, K. AriyoshiPotential effect of virus interference on influenza vaccine effectiveness estimates in test-negative designs
Epidemiol Infect, 142 (2014), pp. 2642-2646
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[8]
B.J. Cowling, V.J. Fang, J.S.M. Peiris, et al.Increased risk of noninfluenza respiratory virus infections associated with receipt of inactivated influenza vaccine
Clin Infect Dis, 54 (2012), pp. 1778-1783
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[9]
S. Feng, A. Fowlkes, A. Steffens, L. Finelli, B. CowlingAssessment of virus interference in a test-negative study of influenza vaccine effectiveness
Epidemiology, 28 (4) (2017), pp. 514-524
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[10]
B.J. Cowling, H. NishiuraVirus interference and estimates of influenza vaccine effectiveness from test-negative studies
Epidemiology., 23 (6) (2012), pp. 930-931
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[11]
S. Rikin, H. Jia, M. Stockwell, et al.Assessment of temporally-related acute respiratory illness following influenza vaccination
Vaccine, 36 (2018), pp. 1958-1964
Article
Download PDFView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[12]
M.E. Sundaram, D.L. McClure, E.A. Belongia, et al.Influenza vaccination is not associated with detection of noninfluenza respiratory viruses in seasonal studies of influenza vaccine effectiveness
Clin Infect Dis, 57 (2013 September), pp. 789-793
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[13]
Defense Health AgencySeasonal Influenza Vaccination Program (IVP)
Defense Health Agency, Falls Church, Virginia (2018), pp. 1-23
Interim Procedures Memorandum 18-005
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[14]NxTAG Respiratory Pathogen Panel [package insert]. Toronto, Ontario, Canada: Luminex; 2016.
Google Scholar
[15]Biofire FilmArray Respiratory Pathogen Panel [package insert]. Salt Lake City, Utah, USA; 28 June 2017.
Google Scholar
[16]CDC Influenza A Subtyping Kit (Version 2) [package insert]. Atlanta, Georgia, USA; 22 July 2016.
Google Scholar
[17]CDC Influenza A/B Subtyping Kit [package insert]. Atlanta, Georgia, USA; 23 March 2016.
Google Scholar
[18]
I. Foppa, M. Haber, J. Ferdinands, et al.The case test-negative design for studies of the effectiveness of influenza vaccine
Vaccine, 31 (June) (2013), pp. 3104-3109
Article
Download PDFView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[19]
M. Jackson, J. NelsonThe test-negative design for estimating influenza vaccine effectiveness
Vaccine, 31 (April) (2013), pp. 2165-2168
Article
Download PDFView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[20]
I. Foppa, J. Ferdinands, S. Chaves, et al.The case test-negative design for studies of the effectiveness of influenza vaccine in inpatient settings
Int J Epidemiol, 6 (2016), p. 2052
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[21]
S. Sullivan, E. Tchetgen Tchetgen, B. CowlingTheoretical basis of the test-negative study design for assessment of influenza vaccine effectiveness
Am J Epidemiol, 5 (2016), p. 345
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[22]
R. Coleman, A. Eick-Cost, A.W. Hawksworth, et al.Department of defense end-of-season influenza vaccine effectiveness estimates for the 2017–2018 season
MSMR, 25 (10) (2018), p. 16
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[23]Cooper M. DoD Influenza Surveillance and Vaccine Effectiveness. In: Oral presentation at: The Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC) Meeting; February 28, 2014; Silver Spring, MD.
Google Scholar

Dude, that's all antivaxer crap. There's no science there, and none of that is peer reviewer by anyone other than fellow antivaxers.

 

[MisterBeale]

Forget the flu shot. It’s worthless. Never got one in my 62 years and have caught the flu only twice.

Secondly you won’t get enough C from OJ. You need huge doses of C to take out the flu. 50,000mg or more taken throughout the day in divided doses. You take as much as is needed to reach bowel tolerance.

In this crises? The flu shot is less the worthless, it's actually dangerous.

https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/prestigious-vaccine-journal-flu-vaccine-increases-coronavirus-infection-risk-36-3?fbclid=IwAR1baILWrMGMk-tsJSQ-
pAUMGq_6i39snUIrb4gk4vpsJkFRYGWyrPwDbVQ

Influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017–2018 influenza season

Prestigious VACCINE Journal: Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Infection Risk 36%

And yet? The establishment is putting out dangerous information? WHY?

Prestigious VACCINE Journal: Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Infection Risk 36%

A new study published in the prestigious journal Vaccine reveals that influenza vaccination may increase the risk of infection from other respiratory viruses -- a phenomenon known as virus interference.

www.greenmedinfo.com

Influenza Vaccine: Military Study Shows 36% Higher Odds Of Coronavirus, 2017-2018

A recent military study shows military personnel evaluated who received the flu vaccine were at 36 percent higher odds of testing positive for coronavirus (pre-SARS CoV2) with varied benefit in pre…

www.disabledveterans.org

Influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017â2018 influenza season

Receiving influenza vaccination may increase the risk of other respiratory viruses, a phenomenon known as virus interference. Test-negative study desi…

www.sciencedirect.com

Do not spread fake news. You could cost people their lives.

You know, I was a bit skeptical of this study as well, my buddy and I were discussing it, but it is from an internationally recognized and accredited source. HE pointed out that the control group was only 3000 people, and then I told him, did he look into whether it was a peer review, or if it had been peer reviewed.

As it turns out, this IS the peer review.


References
[1]National Vaccine Information Center. What is the History of Influenza Vaccine Use in America? <What is the History of Influenza Vaccine Use in America? - NVIC> 2019.
Google Scholar
[2]
J.J. Treanor, H.K. Talbot, S.E. Ohmit, et al.Effectiveness of seasonal influenza vaccines in the United States during a season with circulation of all three vaccine strains
Clin Infect Dis, 55 (7) (2012), pp. 951-959
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[3]
S.E. Ohmit, M.G. Thompson, J.G. Petrie, et al.Influenza vaccine effectiveness in the 2011–2012 season: protection against each circulating virus and the effect of prior vaccination on estimates
Clin Infect Dis, 58 (3) (2014), pp. 319-327
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[4]
H.Q. McLean, M.G. Thompson, M.E. Sundaram, et al.Influenza vaccine effectiveness in the United States during 2012–2013: variable protection by age and virus type
J Infect Dis, 211 (10) (2015), pp. 1529-1540
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[5]
M.L. Jackson, J.R. Chung, L.A. Jackson, et al.Influenza Vaccine Effectiveness in the United States during the 2015–2016 Season
N Engl J Med, 377 (6) (2017), pp. 534-543
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[6]Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Seasonal Influenza Vaccine Effectiveness, 2004-2018. <https://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/vaccination/effectiveness-studies.htm> 22 February 2019.
Google Scholar
[7]
M. Suzuki, A. Camacho, K. AriyoshiPotential effect of virus interference on influenza vaccine effectiveness estimates in test-negative designs
Epidemiol Infect, 142 (2014), pp. 2642-2646
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[8]
B.J. Cowling, V.J. Fang, J.S.M. Peiris, et al.Increased risk of noninfluenza respiratory virus infections associated with receipt of inactivated influenza vaccine
Clin Infect Dis, 54 (2012), pp. 1778-1783
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[9]
S. Feng, A. Fowlkes, A. Steffens, L. Finelli, B. CowlingAssessment of virus interference in a test-negative study of influenza vaccine effectiveness
Epidemiology, 28 (4) (2017), pp. 514-524
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[10]
B.J. Cowling, H. NishiuraVirus interference and estimates of influenza vaccine effectiveness from test-negative studies
Epidemiology., 23 (6) (2012), pp. 930-931
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[11]
S. Rikin, H. Jia, M. Stockwell, et al.Assessment of temporally-related acute respiratory illness following influenza vaccination
Vaccine, 36 (2018), pp. 1958-1964
Article
Download PDFView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[12]
M.E. Sundaram, D.L. McClure, E.A. Belongia, et al.Influenza vaccination is not associated with detection of noninfluenza respiratory viruses in seasonal studies of influenza vaccine effectiveness
Clin Infect Dis, 57 (2013 September), pp. 789-793
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[13]
Defense Health AgencySeasonal Influenza Vaccination Program (IVP)
Defense Health Agency, Falls Church, Virginia (2018), pp. 1-23
Interim Procedures Memorandum 18-005
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[14]NxTAG Respiratory Pathogen Panel [package insert]. Toronto, Ontario, Canada: Luminex; 2016.
Google Scholar
[15]Biofire FilmArray Respiratory Pathogen Panel [package insert]. Salt Lake City, Utah, USA; 28 June 2017.
Google Scholar
[16]CDC Influenza A Subtyping Kit (Version 2) [package insert]. Atlanta, Georgia, USA; 22 July 2016.
Google Scholar
[17]CDC Influenza A/B Subtyping Kit [package insert]. Atlanta, Georgia, USA; 23 March 2016.
Google Scholar
[18]
I. Foppa, M. Haber, J. Ferdinands, et al.The case test-negative design for studies of the effectiveness of influenza vaccine
Vaccine, 31 (June) (2013), pp. 3104-3109
Article
Download PDFView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[19]
M. Jackson, J. NelsonThe test-negative design for estimating influenza vaccine effectiveness
Vaccine, 31 (April) (2013), pp. 2165-2168
Article
Download PDFView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[20]
I. Foppa, J. Ferdinands, S. Chaves, et al.The case test-negative design for studies of the effectiveness of influenza vaccine in inpatient settings
Int J Epidemiol, 6 (2016), p. 2052
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[21]
S. Sullivan, E. Tchetgen Tchetgen, B. CowlingTheoretical basis of the test-negative study design for assessment of influenza vaccine effectiveness
Am J Epidemiol, 5 (2016), p. 345
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[22]
R. Coleman, A. Eick-Cost, A.W. Hawksworth, et al.Department of defense end-of-season influenza vaccine effectiveness estimates for the 2017–2018 season
MSMR, 25 (10) (2018), p. 16
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[23]Cooper M. DoD Influenza Surveillance and Vaccine Effectiveness. In: Oral presentation at: The Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC) Meeting; February 28, 2014; Silver Spring, MD.
Google Scholar

Dude, that's all antivaxer crap. There's no science there, and none of that is peer reviewer by anyone other than fellow antivaxers.

Name calling huh?

Wow, you must have a really STRONG position.

 

[toobfreak]

More great news on the use of vitamin C against the virus. This from Sicily. 10 grams of C intravenously.

Use of Ascorbic Acid in Patients With COVID 19 - Full Text View - ClinicalTrials.gov

The Gripper must own a vitamin C company! All you gotta do is shoot up 10 grams (I guess that's better than 300!) of C vitamin into your vein and you'll cure the virus!

 

[toobfreak]

Slowly but surely the medical establishment is being forced to accept the effectiveness of vitamin c.

This doctor in Scottsdale AZ says IV full of C is a game changer.

TOO FUNNY. A Naturopathic doctor. And he agrees with me and refutes all your previous claims! He's prescribing reasonable doses of a few grams of C a day, NOT 100, 200 or 300 grams a day!
You crack me up.

I don't bother with Vitamin C supplements, since I get plenty of it in the food, I do take a full Multiple Mineral pills everyday, since American foods tends to be low in Minerals.

Can’t get enough from food. Read above post.

Now you are just babbling, since the IV of Vitamin C are from a single doctor, who may or may not have a valid reason to do it, but not as a standard treatment protocol in medical care, since it lacks scientific research behind it.

You are grasping for straws here, pushing an idea that has so little support behind it, it seems that you are a fanatic over it.

View attachment 316317Gripper is just spazing out again, another internet fool already proven DEAD WRONG here many times on his own thread, confused and lying, just spinning in the mud now trying to save face. Just one more facile thread of his where he's gone off into deep end with some lame, crazy idea showing his total disconnect with reality. He's lost his grip.

View attachment 316319

You misrepresent everything I’ve posted because you know nothing about the subject. Stop being a lazy fuck and read dr Cathcart’s research.

Show ONE THING I've misrepresented, you lying assfuck.

I thought so.

 

[gipper]

More great news on the use of vitamin C against the virus. This from Sicily. 10 grams of C intravenously.

Use of Ascorbic Acid in Patients With COVID 19 - Full Text View - ClinicalTrials.gov

The Gripper must own a vitamin C company! All you gotta do is shoot up 10 grams (I guess that's better than 300!) of C vitamin into your vein and you'll cure the virus!

Dumb ass.

 

[gipper]

Slowly but surely the medical establishment is being forced to accept the effectiveness of vitamin c.

This doctor in Scottsdale AZ says IV full of C is a game changer.

TOO FUNNY. A Naturopathic doctor. And he agrees with me and refutes all your previous claims! He's prescribing reasonable doses of a few grams of C a day, NOT 100, 200 or 300 grams a day!
You crack me up.

I don't bother with Vitamin C supplements, since I get plenty of it in the food, I do take a full Multiple Mineral pills everyday, since American foods tends to be low in Minerals.

Can’t get enough from food. Read above post.

Now you are just babbling, since the IV of Vitamin C are from a single doctor, who may or may not have a valid reason to do it, but not as a standard treatment protocol in medical care, since it lacks scientific research behind it.

You are grasping for straws here, pushing an idea that has so little support behind it, it seems that you are a fanatic over it.

View attachment 316317Gripper is just spazing out again, another internet fool already proven DEAD WRONG here many times on his own thread, confused and lying, just spinning in the mud now trying to save face. Just one more facile thread of his where he's gone off into deep end with some lame, crazy idea showing his total disconnect with reality. He's lost his grip.

View attachment 316319

You misrepresent everything I’ve posted because you know nothing about the subject. Stop being a lazy fuck and read dr Cathcart’s research.

Show ONE THING I've misrepresented, you lying assfuck.

View attachment 316484

I thought so.

Please try learning for once. I’m a really great teacher, but I have a very shot fuse for stupid people.

Check it out. Vitamin C is damn near a miracle drug.
Vitamin C may reduce the duration of mechanical ventilation in critically ill patients: a meta-regression analysis
Vitamin C may reduce the duration of mechanical ventilation in critically ill patients: a meta-regression analysis

 

[gipper]

Slowly but surely the medical establishment is being forced to accept the effectiveness of vitamin c.

This doctor in Scottsdale AZ says IV full of C is a game changer.

TOO FUNNY. A Naturopathic doctor. And he agrees with me and refutes all your previous claims! He's prescribing reasonable doses of a few grams of C a day, NOT 100, 200 or 300 grams a day!
You crack me up.

I don't bother with Vitamin C supplements, since I get plenty of it in the food, I do take a full Multiple Mineral pills everyday, since American foods tends to be low in Minerals.

Can’t get enough from food. Read above post.

Now you are just babbling, since the IV of Vitamin C are from a single doctor, who may or may not have a valid reason to do it, but not as a standard treatment protocol in medical care, since it lacks scientific research behind it.

You are grasping for straws here, pushing an idea that has so little support behind it, it seems that you are a fanatic over it.

View attachment 316317Gripper is just spazing out again, another internet fool already proven DEAD WRONG here many times on his own thread, confused and lying, just spinning in the mud now trying to save face. Just one more facile thread of his where he's gone off into deep end with some lame, crazy idea showing his total disconnect with reality. He's lost his grip.

View attachment 316319

You misrepresent everything I’ve posted because you know nothing about the subject. Stop being a lazy fuck and read dr Cathcart’s research.

Show ONE THING I've misrepresented, you lying assfuck.

View attachment 316484

I thought so.

51 dislikes. LMFAO.

 

[toobfreak]

Slowly but surely the medical establishment is being forced to accept the effectiveness of vitamin c.

This doctor in Scottsdale AZ says IV full of C is a game changer.

TOO FUNNY. A Naturopathic doctor. And he agrees with me and refutes all your previous claims! He's prescribing reasonable doses of a few grams of C a day, NOT 100, 200 or 300 grams a day!
You crack me up.

I don't bother with Vitamin C supplements, since I get plenty of it in the food, I do take a full Multiple Mineral pills everyday, since American foods tends to be low in Minerals.

Can’t get enough from food. Read above post.

Now you are just babbling, since the IV of Vitamin C are from a single doctor, who may or may not have a valid reason to do it, but not as a standard treatment protocol in medical care, since it lacks scientific research behind it.

You are grasping for straws here, pushing an idea that has so little support behind it, it seems that you are a fanatic over it.

View attachment 316317Gripper is just spazing out again, another internet fool already proven DEAD WRONG here many times on his own thread, confused and lying, just spinning in the mud now trying to save face. Just one more facile thread of his where he's gone off into deep end with some lame, crazy idea showing his total disconnect with reality. He's lost his grip.

View attachment 316319

You misrepresent everything I’ve posted because you know nothing about the subject. Stop being a lazy fuck and read dr Cathcart’s research.

Show ONE THING I've misrepresented, you lying assfuck.

View attachment 316484

I thought so.

51 dislikes. LMFAO.

You wanna talk facts, talk facts. You wanna talk shit, lie, spin, make assumptions or issue dislikes everytime proven wrong, then don't start something you cannot win. I can be a far bigger dick than you can imagine.

 

[Crepitus]

Forget the flu shot. It’s worthless. Never got one in my 62 years and have caught the flu only twice.

Secondly you won’t get enough C from OJ. You need huge doses of C to take out the flu. 50,000mg or more taken throughout the day in divided doses. You take as much as is needed to reach bowel tolerance.

In this crises? The flu shot is less the worthless, it's actually dangerous.

https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/prestigious-vaccine-journal-flu-vaccine-increases-coronavirus-infection-risk-36-3?fbclid=IwAR1baILWrMGMk-tsJSQ-
pAUMGq_6i39snUIrb4gk4vpsJkFRYGWyrPwDbVQ

Influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017–2018 influenza season

Prestigious VACCINE Journal: Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Infection Risk 36%

And yet? The establishment is putting out dangerous information? WHY?

Prestigious VACCINE Journal: Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Infection Risk 36%

A new study published in the prestigious journal Vaccine reveals that influenza vaccination may increase the risk of infection from other respiratory viruses -- a phenomenon known as virus interference.

www.greenmedinfo.com

Influenza Vaccine: Military Study Shows 36% Higher Odds Of Coronavirus, 2017-2018

A recent military study shows military personnel evaluated who received the flu vaccine were at 36 percent higher odds of testing positive for coronavirus (pre-SARS CoV2) with varied benefit in pre…

www.disabledveterans.org

Influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017â2018 influenza season

Receiving influenza vaccination may increase the risk of other respiratory viruses, a phenomenon known as virus interference. Test-negative study desi…

www.sciencedirect.com

Do not spread fake news. You could cost people their lives.

You know, I was a bit skeptical of this study as well, my buddy and I were discussing it, but it is from an internationally recognized and accredited source. HE pointed out that the control group was only 3000 people, and then I told him, did he look into whether it was a peer review, or if it had been peer reviewed.

As it turns out, this IS the peer review.


References
[1]National Vaccine Information Center. What is the History of Influenza Vaccine Use in America? <What is the History of Influenza Vaccine Use in America? - NVIC> 2019.
Google Scholar
[2]
J.J. Treanor, H.K. Talbot, S.E. Ohmit, et al.Effectiveness of seasonal influenza vaccines in the United States during a season with circulation of all three vaccine strains
Clin Infect Dis, 55 (7) (2012), pp. 951-959
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[3]
S.E. Ohmit, M.G. Thompson, J.G. Petrie, et al.Influenza vaccine effectiveness in the 2011–2012 season: protection against each circulating virus and the effect of prior vaccination on estimates
Clin Infect Dis, 58 (3) (2014), pp. 319-327
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[4]
H.Q. McLean, M.G. Thompson, M.E. Sundaram, et al.Influenza vaccine effectiveness in the United States during 2012–2013: variable protection by age and virus type
J Infect Dis, 211 (10) (2015), pp. 1529-1540
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[5]
M.L. Jackson, J.R. Chung, L.A. Jackson, et al.Influenza Vaccine Effectiveness in the United States during the 2015–2016 Season
N Engl J Med, 377 (6) (2017), pp. 534-543
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[6]Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Seasonal Influenza Vaccine Effectiveness, 2004-2018. <https://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/vaccination/effectiveness-studies.htm> 22 February 2019.
Google Scholar
[7]
M. Suzuki, A. Camacho, K. AriyoshiPotential effect of virus interference on influenza vaccine effectiveness estimates in test-negative designs
Epidemiol Infect, 142 (2014), pp. 2642-2646
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[8]
B.J. Cowling, V.J. Fang, J.S.M. Peiris, et al.Increased risk of noninfluenza respiratory virus infections associated with receipt of inactivated influenza vaccine
Clin Infect Dis, 54 (2012), pp. 1778-1783
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[9]
S. Feng, A. Fowlkes, A. Steffens, L. Finelli, B. CowlingAssessment of virus interference in a test-negative study of influenza vaccine effectiveness
Epidemiology, 28 (4) (2017), pp. 514-524
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[10]
B.J. Cowling, H. NishiuraVirus interference and estimates of influenza vaccine effectiveness from test-negative studies
Epidemiology., 23 (6) (2012), pp. 930-931
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[11]
S. Rikin, H. Jia, M. Stockwell, et al.Assessment of temporally-related acute respiratory illness following influenza vaccination
Vaccine, 36 (2018), pp. 1958-1964
Article
Download PDFView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[12]
M.E. Sundaram, D.L. McClure, E.A. Belongia, et al.Influenza vaccination is not associated with detection of noninfluenza respiratory viruses in seasonal studies of influenza vaccine effectiveness
Clin Infect Dis, 57 (2013 September), pp. 789-793
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[13]
Defense Health AgencySeasonal Influenza Vaccination Program (IVP)
Defense Health Agency, Falls Church, Virginia (2018), pp. 1-23
Interim Procedures Memorandum 18-005
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[14]NxTAG Respiratory Pathogen Panel [package insert]. Toronto, Ontario, Canada: Luminex; 2016.
Google Scholar
[15]Biofire FilmArray Respiratory Pathogen Panel [package insert]. Salt Lake City, Utah, USA; 28 June 2017.
Google Scholar
[16]CDC Influenza A Subtyping Kit (Version 2) [package insert]. Atlanta, Georgia, USA; 22 July 2016.
Google Scholar
[17]CDC Influenza A/B Subtyping Kit [package insert]. Atlanta, Georgia, USA; 23 March 2016.
Google Scholar
[18]
I. Foppa, M. Haber, J. Ferdinands, et al.The case test-negative design for studies of the effectiveness of influenza vaccine
Vaccine, 31 (June) (2013), pp. 3104-3109
Article
Download PDFView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[19]
M. Jackson, J. NelsonThe test-negative design for estimating influenza vaccine effectiveness
Vaccine, 31 (April) (2013), pp. 2165-2168
Article
Download PDFView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[20]
I. Foppa, J. Ferdinands, S. Chaves, et al.The case test-negative design for studies of the effectiveness of influenza vaccine in inpatient settings
Int J Epidemiol, 6 (2016), p. 2052
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[21]
S. Sullivan, E. Tchetgen Tchetgen, B. CowlingTheoretical basis of the test-negative study design for assessment of influenza vaccine effectiveness
Am J Epidemiol, 5 (2016), p. 345
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[22]
R. Coleman, A. Eick-Cost, A.W. Hawksworth, et al.Department of defense end-of-season influenza vaccine effectiveness estimates for the 2017–2018 season
MSMR, 25 (10) (2018), p. 16
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[23]Cooper M. DoD Influenza Surveillance and Vaccine Effectiveness. In: Oral presentation at: The Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC) Meeting; February 28, 2014; Silver Spring, MD.
Google Scholar

Dude, that's all antivaxer crap. There's no science there, and none of that is peer reviewer by anyone other than fellow antivaxers.

Name calling huh?

Wow, you must have a really STRONG position.

Where did I call you any names?

 

[MisterBeale]

Forget the flu shot. It’s worthless. Never got one in my 62 years and have caught the flu only twice.

Secondly you won’t get enough C from OJ. You need huge doses of C to take out the flu. 50,000mg or more taken throughout the day in divided doses. You take as much as is needed to reach bowel tolerance.

In this crises? The flu shot is less the worthless, it's actually dangerous.

https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/prestigious-vaccine-journal-flu-vaccine-increases-coronavirus-infection-risk-36-3?fbclid=IwAR1baILWrMGMk-tsJSQ-
pAUMGq_6i39snUIrb4gk4vpsJkFRYGWyrPwDbVQ

Influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017–2018 influenza season

Prestigious VACCINE Journal: Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Infection Risk 36%

And yet? The establishment is putting out dangerous information? WHY?

Prestigious VACCINE Journal: Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Infection Risk 36%

A new study published in the prestigious journal Vaccine reveals that influenza vaccination may increase the risk of infection from other respiratory viruses -- a phenomenon known as virus interference.

www.greenmedinfo.com

Influenza Vaccine: Military Study Shows 36% Higher Odds Of Coronavirus, 2017-2018

A recent military study shows military personnel evaluated who received the flu vaccine were at 36 percent higher odds of testing positive for coronavirus (pre-SARS CoV2) with varied benefit in pre…

www.disabledveterans.org

Influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017â2018 influenza season

Receiving influenza vaccination may increase the risk of other respiratory viruses, a phenomenon known as virus interference. Test-negative study desi…

www.sciencedirect.com

Do not spread fake news. You could cost people their lives.

You know, I was a bit skeptical of this study as well, my buddy and I were discussing it, but it is from an internationally recognized and accredited source. HE pointed out that the control group was only 3000 people, and then I told him, did he look into whether it was a peer review, or if it had been peer reviewed.

As it turns out, this IS the peer review.


References
[1]National Vaccine Information Center. What is the History of Influenza Vaccine Use in America? <What is the History of Influenza Vaccine Use in America? - NVIC> 2019.
Google Scholar
[2]
J.J. Treanor, H.K. Talbot, S.E. Ohmit, et al.Effectiveness of seasonal influenza vaccines in the United States during a season with circulation of all three vaccine strains
Clin Infect Dis, 55 (7) (2012), pp. 951-959
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[3]
S.E. Ohmit, M.G. Thompson, J.G. Petrie, et al.Influenza vaccine effectiveness in the 2011–2012 season: protection against each circulating virus and the effect of prior vaccination on estimates
Clin Infect Dis, 58 (3) (2014), pp. 319-327
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[4]
H.Q. McLean, M.G. Thompson, M.E. Sundaram, et al.Influenza vaccine effectiveness in the United States during 2012–2013: variable protection by age and virus type
J Infect Dis, 211 (10) (2015), pp. 1529-1540
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[5]
M.L. Jackson, J.R. Chung, L.A. Jackson, et al.Influenza Vaccine Effectiveness in the United States during the 2015–2016 Season
N Engl J Med, 377 (6) (2017), pp. 534-543
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[6]Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Seasonal Influenza Vaccine Effectiveness, 2004-2018. <https://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/vaccination/effectiveness-studies.htm> 22 February 2019.
Google Scholar
[7]
M. Suzuki, A. Camacho, K. AriyoshiPotential effect of virus interference on influenza vaccine effectiveness estimates in test-negative designs
Epidemiol Infect, 142 (2014), pp. 2642-2646
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[8]
B.J. Cowling, V.J. Fang, J.S.M. Peiris, et al.Increased risk of noninfluenza respiratory virus infections associated with receipt of inactivated influenza vaccine
Clin Infect Dis, 54 (2012), pp. 1778-1783
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[9]
S. Feng, A. Fowlkes, A. Steffens, L. Finelli, B. CowlingAssessment of virus interference in a test-negative study of influenza vaccine effectiveness
Epidemiology, 28 (4) (2017), pp. 514-524
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[10]
B.J. Cowling, H. NishiuraVirus interference and estimates of influenza vaccine effectiveness from test-negative studies
Epidemiology., 23 (6) (2012), pp. 930-931
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[11]
S. Rikin, H. Jia, M. Stockwell, et al.Assessment of temporally-related acute respiratory illness following influenza vaccination
Vaccine, 36 (2018), pp. 1958-1964
Article
Download PDFView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[12]
M.E. Sundaram, D.L. McClure, E.A. Belongia, et al.Influenza vaccination is not associated with detection of noninfluenza respiratory viruses in seasonal studies of influenza vaccine effectiveness
Clin Infect Dis, 57 (2013 September), pp. 789-793
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[13]
Defense Health AgencySeasonal Influenza Vaccination Program (IVP)
Defense Health Agency, Falls Church, Virginia (2018), pp. 1-23
Interim Procedures Memorandum 18-005
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[14]NxTAG Respiratory Pathogen Panel [package insert]. Toronto, Ontario, Canada: Luminex; 2016.
Google Scholar
[15]Biofire FilmArray Respiratory Pathogen Panel [package insert]. Salt Lake City, Utah, USA; 28 June 2017.
Google Scholar
[16]CDC Influenza A Subtyping Kit (Version 2) [package insert]. Atlanta, Georgia, USA; 22 July 2016.
Google Scholar
[17]CDC Influenza A/B Subtyping Kit [package insert]. Atlanta, Georgia, USA; 23 March 2016.
Google Scholar
[18]
I. Foppa, M. Haber, J. Ferdinands, et al.The case test-negative design for studies of the effectiveness of influenza vaccine
Vaccine, 31 (June) (2013), pp. 3104-3109
Article
Download PDFView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[19]
M. Jackson, J. NelsonThe test-negative design for estimating influenza vaccine effectiveness
Vaccine, 31 (April) (2013), pp. 2165-2168
Article
Download PDFView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[20]
I. Foppa, J. Ferdinands, S. Chaves, et al.The case test-negative design for studies of the effectiveness of influenza vaccine in inpatient settings
Int J Epidemiol, 6 (2016), p. 2052
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[21]
S. Sullivan, E. Tchetgen Tchetgen, B. CowlingTheoretical basis of the test-negative study design for assessment of influenza vaccine effectiveness
Am J Epidemiol, 5 (2016), p. 345
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[22]
R. Coleman, A. Eick-Cost, A.W. Hawksworth, et al.Department of defense end-of-season influenza vaccine effectiveness estimates for the 2017–2018 season
MSMR, 25 (10) (2018), p. 16
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[23]Cooper M. DoD Influenza Surveillance and Vaccine Effectiveness. In: Oral presentation at: The Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC) Meeting; February 28, 2014; Silver Spring, MD.
Google Scholar

Dude, that's all antivaxer crap. There's no science there, and none of that is peer reviewer by anyone other than fellow antivaxers.

Name calling huh?

Wow, you must have a really STRONG position.

Where did I call you any names?

I never said you called me any names. I just wrote that you have resorted to name calling folks you disagree with because you lack all critical thinking and your arguments are weak.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

A silver lining to the pandemic. Finally the assholes in the medical establishment are recognizing the power of vitamin C.

METRO EXCLUSIVE
New York hospitals treating coronavirus patients with vitamin C

New York hospitals treating coronavirus patients with vitamin C

Seriously sick coronavirus patients in New York state’s largest hospital system are being given massive doses of vitamin C — based on promising reports that it’s helped people in hard-h…

nypost.com

Vitamin c , zinc ,and sit out in the sun to make yer own vitamin d

 

[Crepitus]

Forget the flu shot. It’s worthless. Never got one in my 62 years and have caught the flu only twice.

Secondly you won’t get enough C from OJ. You need huge doses of C to take out the flu. 50,000mg or more taken throughout the day in divided doses. You take as much as is needed to reach bowel tolerance.

In this crises? The flu shot is less the worthless, it's actually dangerous.

https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/prestigious-vaccine-journal-flu-vaccine-increases-coronavirus-infection-risk-36-3?fbclid=IwAR1baILWrMGMk-tsJSQ-
pAUMGq_6i39snUIrb4gk4vpsJkFRYGWyrPwDbVQ

Influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017–2018 influenza season

Prestigious VACCINE Journal: Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Infection Risk 36%

And yet? The establishment is putting out dangerous information? WHY?

Prestigious VACCINE Journal: Flu Vaccine Increases Coronavirus Infection Risk 36%

A new study published in the prestigious journal Vaccine reveals that influenza vaccination may increase the risk of infection from other respiratory viruses -- a phenomenon known as virus interference.

www.greenmedinfo.com

Influenza Vaccine: Military Study Shows 36% Higher Odds Of Coronavirus, 2017-2018

A recent military study shows military personnel evaluated who received the flu vaccine were at 36 percent higher odds of testing positive for coronavirus (pre-SARS CoV2) with varied benefit in pre…

www.disabledveterans.org

Influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017â2018 influenza season

Receiving influenza vaccination may increase the risk of other respiratory viruses, a phenomenon known as virus interference. Test-negative study desi…

www.sciencedirect.com

Do not spread fake news. You could cost people their lives.

You know, I was a bit skeptical of this study as well, my buddy and I were discussing it, but it is from an internationally recognized and accredited source. HE pointed out that the control group was only 3000 people, and then I told him, did he look into whether it was a peer review, or if it had been peer reviewed.

As it turns out, this IS the peer review.


References
[1]National Vaccine Information Center. What is the History of Influenza Vaccine Use in America? <What is the History of Influenza Vaccine Use in America? - NVIC> 2019.
Google Scholar
[2]
J.J. Treanor, H.K. Talbot, S.E. Ohmit, et al.Effectiveness of seasonal influenza vaccines in the United States during a season with circulation of all three vaccine strains
Clin Infect Dis, 55 (7) (2012), pp. 951-959
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[3]
S.E. Ohmit, M.G. Thompson, J.G. Petrie, et al.Influenza vaccine effectiveness in the 2011–2012 season: protection against each circulating virus and the effect of prior vaccination on estimates
Clin Infect Dis, 58 (3) (2014), pp. 319-327
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[4]
H.Q. McLean, M.G. Thompson, M.E. Sundaram, et al.Influenza vaccine effectiveness in the United States during 2012–2013: variable protection by age and virus type
J Infect Dis, 211 (10) (2015), pp. 1529-1540
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[5]
M.L. Jackson, J.R. Chung, L.A. Jackson, et al.Influenza Vaccine Effectiveness in the United States during the 2015–2016 Season
N Engl J Med, 377 (6) (2017), pp. 534-543
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[6]Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Seasonal Influenza Vaccine Effectiveness, 2004-2018. <https://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/vaccination/effectiveness-studies.htm> 22 February 2019.
Google Scholar
[7]
M. Suzuki, A. Camacho, K. AriyoshiPotential effect of virus interference on influenza vaccine effectiveness estimates in test-negative designs
Epidemiol Infect, 142 (2014), pp. 2642-2646
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[8]
B.J. Cowling, V.J. Fang, J.S.M. Peiris, et al.Increased risk of noninfluenza respiratory virus infections associated with receipt of inactivated influenza vaccine
Clin Infect Dis, 54 (2012), pp. 1778-1783
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[9]
S. Feng, A. Fowlkes, A. Steffens, L. Finelli, B. CowlingAssessment of virus interference in a test-negative study of influenza vaccine effectiveness
Epidemiology, 28 (4) (2017), pp. 514-524
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[10]
B.J. Cowling, H. NishiuraVirus interference and estimates of influenza vaccine effectiveness from test-negative studies
Epidemiology., 23 (6) (2012), pp. 930-931
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[11]
S. Rikin, H. Jia, M. Stockwell, et al.Assessment of temporally-related acute respiratory illness following influenza vaccination
Vaccine, 36 (2018), pp. 1958-1964
Article
Download PDFView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[12]
M.E. Sundaram, D.L. McClure, E.A. Belongia, et al.Influenza vaccination is not associated with detection of noninfluenza respiratory viruses in seasonal studies of influenza vaccine effectiveness
Clin Infect Dis, 57 (2013 September), pp. 789-793
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[13]
Defense Health AgencySeasonal Influenza Vaccination Program (IVP)
Defense Health Agency, Falls Church, Virginia (2018), pp. 1-23
Interim Procedures Memorandum 18-005
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[14]NxTAG Respiratory Pathogen Panel [package insert]. Toronto, Ontario, Canada: Luminex; 2016.
Google Scholar
[15]Biofire FilmArray Respiratory Pathogen Panel [package insert]. Salt Lake City, Utah, USA; 28 June 2017.
Google Scholar
[16]CDC Influenza A Subtyping Kit (Version 2) [package insert]. Atlanta, Georgia, USA; 22 July 2016.
Google Scholar
[17]CDC Influenza A/B Subtyping Kit [package insert]. Atlanta, Georgia, USA; 23 March 2016.
Google Scholar
[18]
I. Foppa, M. Haber, J. Ferdinands, et al.The case test-negative design for studies of the effectiveness of influenza vaccine
Vaccine, 31 (June) (2013), pp. 3104-3109
Article
Download PDFView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[19]
M. Jackson, J. NelsonThe test-negative design for estimating influenza vaccine effectiveness
Vaccine, 31 (April) (2013), pp. 2165-2168
Article
Download PDFView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[20]
I. Foppa, J. Ferdinands, S. Chaves, et al.The case test-negative design for studies of the effectiveness of influenza vaccine in inpatient settings
Int J Epidemiol, 6 (2016), p. 2052
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[21]
S. Sullivan, E. Tchetgen Tchetgen, B. CowlingTheoretical basis of the test-negative study design for assessment of influenza vaccine effectiveness
Am J Epidemiol, 5 (2016), p. 345
CrossRefView Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[22]
R. Coleman, A. Eick-Cost, A.W. Hawksworth, et al.Department of defense end-of-season influenza vaccine effectiveness estimates for the 2017–2018 season
MSMR, 25 (10) (2018), p. 16
View Record in ScopusGoogle Scholar
[23]Cooper M. DoD Influenza Surveillance and Vaccine Effectiveness. In: Oral presentation at: The Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC) Meeting; February 28, 2014; Silver Spring, MD.
Google Scholar

Dude, that's all antivaxer crap. There's no science there, and none of that is peer reviewer by anyone other than fellow antivaxers.

Name calling huh?

Wow, you must have a really STRONG position.

Where did I call you any names?

I never said you called me any names. I just wrote that you have resorted to name calling folks you disagree with because you lack all critical thinking and your arguments are weak.

What, calling antivaxers antivaxers is name-calling? It's what they are. It isn't like I called them science denying nut-bars. Even though they are.

 

[gipper]

Slowly but surely the medical establishment is being forced to accept the effectiveness of vitamin c.

This doctor in Scottsdale AZ says IV full of C is a game changer.

TOO FUNNY. A Naturopathic doctor. And he agrees with me and refutes all your previous claims! He's prescribing reasonable doses of a few grams of C a day, NOT 100, 200 or 300 grams a day!
You crack me up.

I don't bother with Vitamin C supplements, since I get plenty of it in the food, I do take a full Multiple Mineral pills everyday, since American foods tends to be low in Minerals.

Can’t get enough from food. Read above post.

Now you are just babbling, since the IV of Vitamin C are from a single doctor, who may or may not have a valid reason to do it, but not as a standard treatment protocol in medical care, since it lacks scientific research behind it.

You are grasping for straws here, pushing an idea that has so little support behind it, it seems that you are a fanatic over it.

View attachment 316317Gripper is just spazing out again, another internet fool already proven DEAD WRONG here many times on his own thread, confused and lying, just spinning in the mud now trying to save face. Just one more facile thread of his where he's gone off into deep end with some lame, crazy idea showing his total disconnect with reality. He's lost his grip.

View attachment 316319

You misrepresent everything I’ve posted because you know nothing about the subject. Stop being a lazy fuck and read dr Cathcart’s research.

Show ONE THING I've misrepresented, you lying assfuck.

View attachment 316484

I thought so.

51 dislikes. LMFAO.

You wanna talk facts, talk facts. You wanna talk shit, lie, spin, make assumptions or issue dislikes everytime proven wrong, then don't start something you cannot win. I can be a far bigger dick than you can imagine.

 

[gipper]

Slowly but surely the medical establishment is being forced to accept the effectiveness of vitamin c.

This doctor in Scottsdale AZ says IV full of C is a game changer.

TOO FUNNY. A Naturopathic doctor. And he agrees with me and refutes all your previous claims! He's prescribing reasonable doses of a few grams of C a day, NOT 100, 200 or 300 grams a day!
You crack me up.

I don't bother with Vitamin C supplements, since I get plenty of it in the food, I do take a full Multiple Mineral pills everyday, since American foods tends to be low in Minerals.

Can’t get enough from food. Read above post.

Now you are just babbling, since the IV of Vitamin C are from a single doctor, who may or may not have a valid reason to do it, but not as a standard treatment protocol in medical care, since it lacks scientific research behind it.

You are grasping for straws here, pushing an idea that has so little support behind it, it seems that you are a fanatic over it.

View attachment 316317Gripper is just spazing out again, another internet fool already proven DEAD WRONG here many times on his own thread, confused and lying, just spinning in the mud now trying to save face. Just one more facile thread of his where he's gone off into deep end with some lame, crazy idea showing his total disconnect with reality. He's lost his grip.

View attachment 316319

You misrepresent everything I’ve posted because you know nothing about the subject. Stop being a lazy fuck and read dr Cathcart’s research.

Show ONE THING I've misrepresented, you lying assfuck.

View attachment 316484

I thought so.

51 dislikes. LMFAO.

You wanna talk facts, talk facts. You wanna talk shit, lie, spin, make assumptions or issue dislikes everytime proven wrong, then don't start something you cannot win. I can be a far bigger dick than you can imagine.

It just keeps getting to the people, no matter how hard the Anti-Supp idiots like toofreakingDUMB try to stop it.
3grams per day...per ISOM.

 

[gipper]

The Anti-suppers like toofreakingDumb just keep losing. The word is out and C is winning!!!

Vitamin C May Reduce Ventilation Time in Critically Ill Patients

FRIDAY, March 27, 2020 -- The administration of vitamin C shortens the length of mechanical ventilation in critically ill patients, according to a review recently published in the Journal of Intensive Care.
Vitamin C May Reduce Ventilation Time in Critically Ill Patients - Drugs.com MedNews

 

[gipper]

Slowly but surely the medical establishment is being forced to accept the effectiveness of vitamin c.

This doctor in Scottsdale AZ says IV full of C is a game changer.

TOO FUNNY. A Naturopathic doctor. And he agrees with me and refutes all your previous claims! He's prescribing reasonable doses of a few grams of C a day, NOT 100, 200 or 300 grams a day!
You crack me up.

I don't bother with Vitamin C supplements, since I get plenty of it in the food, I do take a full Multiple Mineral pills everyday, since American foods tends to be low in Minerals.

Can’t get enough from food. Read above post.

Now you are just babbling, since the IV of Vitamin C are from a single doctor, who may or may not have a valid reason to do it, but not as a standard treatment protocol in medical care, since it lacks scientific research behind it.

You are grasping for straws here, pushing an idea that has so little support behind it, it seems that you are a fanatic over it.

View attachment 316317Gripper is just spazing out again, another internet fool already proven DEAD WRONG here many times on his own thread, confused and lying, just spinning in the mud now trying to save face. Just one more facile thread of his where he's gone off into deep end with some lame, crazy idea showing his total disconnect with reality. He's lost his grip.

View attachment 316319

You misrepresent everything I’ve posted because you know nothing about the subject. Stop being a lazy fuck and read dr Cathcart’s research.

Show ONE THING I've misrepresented, you lying assfuck.

View attachment 316484

I thought so.

51 dislikes. LMFAO.

You wanna talk facts, talk facts. You wanna talk shit, lie, spin, make assumptions or issue dislikes everytime proven wrong, then don't start something you cannot win. I can be a far bigger dick than you can imagine.

Winning!!! Suck it anti-suppers!!!

“Among 471 patients (in five trials) requiring ventilation for more than 10 hours, a dosage of 1 to 6 g/day of vitamin C shortened ventilation time on average by 25 percent.”

Vitamin C May Reduce Ventilation Time in Critically Ill Patients - Drugs.com MedNews

 

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The flu shot is a bad joke. GET INFORMED.

It is, we were offered it free in ems, but after time many of us realized working on our own immunological response was more effective

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This protocol to fight the virus from the Riordan Clininc in Kansas, named after the great doctor Hugh Riordan, who successfully used vitamins against disease.
The Anti-Supplement assholes like toofreakingDumb continue to lose. Supplements work particularly vitamin C.


Riordan Clinic and COVID 19, A Letter From Our Chief Medical Officer
We at Riordan suggest the following supplemental immune-boosting strategy as well.

1. Vitamin C: 1,000-2,000 mg, 3-4 times a day (to bowel tolerance)
2. Vitamin D3/K2: 1,000 IU, twice daily
3. Vitamin A: 10,000 IU, per day
4. Zinc Picolinate: 30 mg, twice daily with food
5. Selenium: 200 mcg, 1-2x daily with food

(Note: please implement BEFORE getting ill if possible. If you wish, our Immunity Lab Panel can check your reserves of these nutrients.)

While we do use high dose intravenous vitamin C (IVC) for acutely ill patients with manageable symptoms, the current public health guidelines suggest that any person with a fever or any upper respiratory symptoms should treat their illness as potentially COVID 19, preferably obtaining appropriate diagnosis via your local health department or hospital ER.
Riordan Clinic and COVID 19, A Letter From Our Chief Medical Officer - Riordan Clinic