US Senate blocks California’s electric car mandate in historic vote

[dblack]

It’s good to see California get checked a little bit. Electric cars are not green no matter what liberals want to sell them as.

US Senate blocks California’s electric car mandate in historic vote

Today’s decision could upend California’s phaseout of gas-powered cars and diesel trucks, and its battle against air pollution. California plans to sue, saying it's an unlawful act.

calmatters.org

So much for state's rights.

 

[struth]

And yet I showed where they can restrict what is being sold.

sure as long as it doesn’t violate the commerce clause

 

[konradv]

You'll get him. We now know the 2030 death of the planet is not true through climate change. Again. Most likely it was a target date for the globalist's takeover with the help of traitors within our nation. Our deficits may e our demise over the years coming.

The future is global. Get used to it.

 

[struth]

They weren't allowed to filibuster. Passing legislation takes 60 votes, not 50.

No you idiot, clousue takes 60 votes not passing legislation. They didn’t need a closure vote cause they didn’t need to vote to end debate

You are clueless

 

[konradv]

EV demand in general is down, because they can't deliver what you idiots are promising.

Demand is down only because people are worried about Trump tanking the economy

 

[martybegan]

Demand is down only because people are worried about Trump tanking the economy

Demand is down because EV"s are a niche market and that market has probably been met.

 

[Marener]

No you idiot, clousue takes 60 votes not passing legislation. They didn’t need a closure vote cause they didn’t need to vote to end debate

You are clueless

Yes, they did need to end debate and that vote passed 51-46. So you're saying Republicans lowered the bar for cloture to a simple majority.

 

[M14 Shooter]

While I think the mandate is stupid, and hurts the citizens, I dont see how congress has the power to do this.

The power to regulate interstate commerce.
If Congress can force a wheat farmer to sell his entire crop, it can force CA to allow the sale of ICE cars.

 

[22lcidw]

The future is global. Get used to it.

Americans will not. For their standard of living needs to decrease. And many do not understand that. Also, it is happening for the younger generations right now.

 

[The Irish Ram]

While I think the mandate is stupid, and hurts the citizens, I dont see how congress has the power to do this.

Article 6 sec. 2. Federal law takes precedence over state law.

 

[konradv]

Americans will not. For their standard of living needs to decrease. And many do not understand that. Also, it is happening for the younger generations right now.

Globalism encourages economic growth. Insularism and tariffs will cause a depression.

 

[konradv]

Demand is down because EV"s are a niche market and that market has probably been met.

EVs aren’t niche; they’re the future.

 

[dblack]

So no "conservatives" are willing to stick up for state's rights here?

I totally agree the policy is stupid. The whole program will crash and burn and California will be worse off for it. But it's their nightmare. It could even be a nice "teachable moment" for the rest of the country.

 

[martybegan]

EVs aren’t niche; they’re the future.

LOL.

 

[struth]

Yes, they did need to end debate and that vote passed 51-46. So you're saying Republicans lowered the bar for cloture to a simple majority.

They didn’t need to vote to end debate if there was no debate to have you idiot

Geez man you thought it took 60 votes to pass a bill, you are clueless

 

[Marener]

They didn’t need to vote to end debate if there was no debate to have you idiot

Geez man you thought it took 60 votes to pass a bill, you are clueless

So you’re saying the Senate doesn’t allow debate anymore?

 

[struth]

So you’re saying the Senate doesn’t allow debate anymore?

No, that’s not what I said…wow you are dumb

 

[Marener]

No, that’s not what I said…wow you are dumb

You said there was no chance for debate before they passed the legislation, so did Republicans eliminate debate in the Senate?

 

[JWBooth]

Federal government doing too much, impinging on the state’s jurisdiction, and the individual right of self determination. That whole republican form of government that they are promised thing.
California voters impose this insanity on themselves, they can reap the consequences.

 

[TimFitz]

Not in the winter. that excess engine heat goes to use.

Combustion also contributes to the AC via the alternator

Both in an EV come from the battery, drastically reducing the overall range of the vehicle.

Few cars have electric driven AC.

They are run by a belt driven compressor.

EV’s of course, are not.