US Senate blocks California’s electric car mandate in historic vote

[konradv]

He still sells more EV's in the US than the other manufacturers.

Probably combined.

43% and falling.

Electric Vehicle Sales and Market Share (US - Q1 2025 Updates)

 

[martybegan]

43% and falling.

Electric Vehicle Sales and Market Share (US - Q1 2025 Updates)

EV demand in general is down, because they can't deliver what you idiots are promising.

 

[task0778]

While I think the mandate is stupid, and hurts the citizens, I dont see how congress has the power to do this.

Wondering this myself. The wisdom of the mandate is up for debate, but that isn't the question. I gather that under pre-existing law what CA did was lawful, so the US Congress passed a law to block it. Otherwise, the case would be referred to the DOJ, no?

The 10th Amendment allows the states to legislate all matters not under federal jurisdiction. Here we have a question of where that boundary lies and how far can the federal gov't go before states' rights are violated? I am not sure we should want a too-powerful federal gov't running roughshod over the states whenever they want to.

 

[22lcidw]

43% and falling.

Electric Vehicle Sales and Market Share (US - Q1 2025 Updates)

You'll get him. We now know the 2030 death of the planet is not true through climate change. Again. Most likely it was a target date for the globalist's takeover with the help of traitors within our nation. Our deficits may e our demise over the years coming.

 

[pknopp]

Sorry but anything in the US or that impact the US is my business if I choose to make it so.

******* Freedom, dippy.

It doesn't impact the US. Manufacturers have long came out with new innovations.

People take to them or not.

Mind your own business. It's funny now that Musk has crawled back into his hole MAGA has once again flipped.

 

[martybegan]

It doesn't impact the US. Manufacturers have long came out with new innovations.

People take to them or not.

Mind your own business. It's funny now that Musk has crawled back into his hole MAGA has once again flipped.

**** off.

 

[struth]

States rights out the window along with nearly everything else MAGA pretended to support.

That noted, it was never going to happen anyway.

It's not a State's Right issue, the State was given a waiver by the Federal Govt, read the link, they were given a waiver, the wavier is gone.

 

[struth]

What you are trying unsuccessfully to argue is that one state can't ban marijuana because another manufactures it and people can take it across state lines,

No, what he successfully argued is the dormient commerce clause.

Pot sales, and bans could be an issue in the future and challenged under this, depending on how big the industry comes.

Maybe you should educate yourself on the Constitutional issue at hand here, you seem to struggle with these sort of things.

 

[pknopp]

It's not a State's Right issue, the State was given a waiver by the Federal Govt, read the link, they were given a waiver, the wavier is gone.

States rights any way around it.

 

[Marener]

the wavier is gone.

The Senate doesn't have the authority to take away a waiver by a simple majority.

 

[struth]

States rights any way around it.

wrong, states can pass laws that violate the commerce clause.

 

[struth]

The Senate doesn't have the authority to take away a waiver by a simple majority.

where are you getting this information?

 

[Marener]

where are you getting this information?

The law.

 

[struth]

The law.

Really? Can you provide us with the citation to this law that says Congress can't pass this legislation with a simple majority?

I will say Congress didn't have to pass any law, Trump could have taken them back on his own, as they were waivers granted by the Executive to begin with.

 

[pknopp]

wrong, states can pass laws that violate the commerce clause.

States can restrict what they allow.

Ie: my firewood example.

 

[Marener]

Really? Can you provide us with the citation to this law that says Congress can't pass this legislation with a simple majority?

So you guys just ended the filibuster. That's interesting.

 

[struth]

States can restrict what they allow.

Ie: my firewood example.

states can't pass laws that violate the US Constitution, in this case, the commerce clause.

 

[struth]

So you guys just ended the filibuster. That's interesting.

What the F are you talking about? The filibuster is speaking to stop a vote, nobody filibustered here...the vote happened

you are clueless

 

[Marener]

What the F are you talking about? The filibuster is speaking to stop a vote, nobody filibustered here...the vote happened

you are clueless

They weren't allowed to filibuster. Passing legislation takes 60 votes, not 50.

 

[pknopp]

states can't pass laws that violate the US Constitution, in this case, the commerce clause.

And yet I showed where they can restrict what is being sold.