US Needs to Get Out of Ukraine and NATO

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Believe as you wish, but your wishes are not fishes swimming upstream in reality.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Don't overestimate Putin. He is just a human. It is not about him, it is about you, killing Russian people. And no, if the Russians weren't be such the "blood thirsty pr&cks" - we would be already genocided centuries ago.

Right, so you just said Russians are "blood thirsty pr&cks".... well done.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Russians are bloodthirsty pricks.

 

[GLASNOST]

.... if the Russians weren't be such the "blood thirsty pr&cks" - we would be already genocided centuries ago.

Right, so you just said Russians are "blood thirsty pr&cks".... well done.

Are you illiterate?

 

[alang1216]

China can't invade Taiwan, because Taiwan is already a part of China. They call themselves Rupublic of China, you know.

China decided Tibet was part of China too. Where does it end?

And no, Russia is one of the most peaceful nations on our planet. May be the most peaceful. We just don't like when somebody abuse, discriminate and kill us. Strange, isn't it?

You mean it's strange that Russia is such a powerful nation but can always find a country to invade to protect Russians.

 

[alang1216]

im sure not having to pay their fair share was a major talking point for them joining, one that Trump recently rectified.

They seem ready to ante up so I guess they really want to be in NATO.

 

[BothWings]

They seem ready to ante up so I guess they really want to be in NATO.

LoL! NOW they do.

 

[Zavulon]

China decided Tibet was part of China too. Where does it end?

It doesn't ended yet. It will be ended when Tibetians really became Chinamen.

You mean it's strange that Russia is such a powerful nation but can always find a country to invade to protect Russians.

"To protect Russians, Russia's allies or Russian businesses", I would say. There is nothing strange. The raise of strength and wealth means the increasing of the number of enemies, who want to kill us and take our wealth (out of greed and/or self-preservation). The problem is that decline of strength and wealth also means increasing the number of the enemies who want to kill us and take our wealth (out of greed and/or self-preservation). Searching for the proper actions to inspire the proper balance of envy, fear and hatred to deter your aggression is the essence of our foreign policy.
You don't understand proper Russian words, and it seems we can't find out proper English words to stop you. That is why we need actions - like invading and killing your proxies, hiring our proxies to attack your bases, or nuking your bases, or nuking your cities (if both words and demonstrative actions won't work).

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Russia protects itself by invading other nations that have no interest in Russian land.

 

[justoffal]

The US has no more business getting involved in the conflict between Russia and Ukraine than it would in the conflict between India and Pakistan, and NATO has even less reason to be involved.

NATO was formed in 1949 to protect Western Europe from invasion by the Soviet Union, which had the world's largest army at the end of WW2. The ensuing Cold War justified this alliance until the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991. After that the threat of International Communism ceased to exist, and Western Europe began cooperative relations with Russia. However the NATO military establishment maintained a hostile attitude towards Russia, and expanded into many of the Eastern European countries near Russia's border. When Ukraine became the next candidate for NATO expansion, Russia responded with military action to prevent this from happening. NATO countries (including the US) then responded with military assistance to Ukraine, even though it was not (yet) a NATO member.

NATO is now involved in an undeclared war with Russia, even though Russia has not invaded any NATO member. This fact further undermines the original purpose of NATO, and actually lessens the security of its European members. It also places the US in an unacceptable position of being drawn into conflicts which have no bearing on its own national security interests. The countries of Western Europe have economies many times that of Russia, and could easily defend themselves if they needed to. As a result, the US has no need or responsibility to defend them or become involved in extraneous foreign conflicts.

NATO is working for China and against the US.
Yes time to get out.

 

[Deadstick]

Dirlwanger was a child raping lunatic, many of his men were released from lunatic asylums, it takes a very sick individual to use the Dirlwanger insignia.

 

[Deadstick]

Russia protects itself by invading other nations that have no interest in Russian land.

Some Countries like Britain and France have had an interest in Russian land for centuries, that's why they have invaded Russia more than once.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

When was the last time England marched on Moscow.

Stay in Russia, be quiet, and we all will ignore you,

 

[Deadstick]

When was the last time England marched on Moscow.

Stay in Russia, be quiet, and we all will ignore you,

1918 to be exact along with the Americans and several other Western Countries, the image was Vladivostok in 1918 when it was invaded.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

We did not march of Moscow a 100 years ago.

The Poles would try and almost kicked your asses and did keep you out of their Motherland.

 

[Deadstick]

We did not march of Moscow a 100 years ago.

The Poles would try and almost kicked your asses and did keep you out of their Motherland.

They didn't get chance but they tried invading Russia end of story so don't pull that crap on me.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

They kicked your asses hard and kept you out of the Motherland of Poland.

The spit and urinated all over Russia and took their independence from you.

 

[alang1216]

1918 to be exact along with the Americans and several other Western Countries, the image was Vladivostok in 1918 when it was invaded.
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I believe these foreign troops came to aid the White Russians who were fighting the Red Russians. Kind of like the excuse Putin used to invade Ukraine.

 

[Deadstick]

I believe these foreign troops came to aid the White Russians who were fighting the Red Russians. Kind of like the excuse Putin used to invade Ukraine.

So what business was that civil war of those Countries who invaded? it's the same Countries who think they have a right to Rule other Countries today, slow horses asked when was Moscow invaded by the West i gave him an answer when i said Russia has been invaded more than once by Western Countries including the Americans, The French under Napoleon who got as far as Moscow then had his balls frozen and as we know the Nazis invaded and got as far as the Moscow suburbs along with several European allies before they were smashed, what i don't remember is Russia invading the UK or America, so it's nonsense to say there is no threat from the same Countries against Russia, their aim has not changed which is to Balkanize Russia and steal it's resources and land.

 

[GLASNOST]

So what business was that civil war of those Countries who invaded? it's the same Countries who think they have a right to Rule other Countries today, slow horses asked when was Moscow invaded by the West i gave him an answer when i said Russia has been invaded more than once by Western Countries including the Americans, The French under Napoleon who got as far as Moscow then had his balls frozen and as we know the Nazis invaded and got as far as the Moscow suburbs along with several European allies before they were smashed, what i don't remember is Russia invading the UK or America, so it's nonsense to say there is no threat from the same Countries against Russia, their aim has not changed which is to Balkanize Russia and steal it's resources and land.

There is a whole series of documented proof dedicated to this very subject ..... starting here: