US Needs to Get Out of Ukraine and NATO

[frigidweirdo]

Of course, now it's too late for the peaceful coexistence and the big war is practically inevitable. You came in Russia, you started to kill Russians. And now, with your Trump, who is actually untrustworthy, it seems to me that you won't stop doing it until you lose Alaska and California.

The question was why you decided to do it back in 90s? Why Americans decided, instead of getting richer and safer, expand NATO eastward and make Americans poorer and lesser safe?

War is already here because Putin is such a c*nt that he's already invaded the Ukraine. Russia gains nothing from it, Russians gain even less as their country is poorer, its economy is based around war, which clearly costs lots of money.

But then what difference does it make? Putin has been stealing from the Russian people for a long time, from 2014 to the invasion of the Ukraine he was stealing so much he could afford to pay for the war. Imagine what Russia would be like for Russians if Putin wasn't a blood thirsty pr*ck.

 

[alang1216]

They were so scared of communism, that gave away all their technologies to the Communist China? They were so afraid of communism, that established communism in the USA? Anyway. If they made a peace with Russia in 80s, what was the reason to invest money in Germany, especially after Russia dismounted Warsaw Pact? Did they think that Russia will conquer West Germany, France and Britain?

The fear was in the '50s and '60s. By the '80 it was obvious that communism was a failure and no longer a threat. The new idea was that trade with these ex-communist countries would bring peace. Worked fine with Vietnam but Russia and China maintained their expansionist foreign policy. China didn't invade Taiwan but Russia was not so peaceful.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Zavulon's Russia day under Putin is ending.

 

[schmidlap]

Americans Endorse US Commitment to NATO​

jwoodie, just stop. Nobody needs a Russian stooge here pontificating away.

The Putin stooges, contemptuous of NATO and democracy, are allied with the Kim Jung Un lackeys
who are thrilled be the prospect of North Korean troops invading Europe.

North Korea to send 30,000 troops to Ukraine frontlines in support of Russia​

Donald Trump Says He Trusts Putin More Than U.S. Intelligence 'Lowlifes'​

'We fell in love' - Trump swoons over letters from North Korea's Kim​

ménage à trois​

 

[JWBooth]

Americans Endorse US Commitment to NATO​

The Putin stooges, contemptuous of NATO and democracy, are allied with the Kim Jung Un lackeys
who are thrilled be the prospect of North Korean troops invading Europe.

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North Korea to send 30,000 troops to Ukraine frontlines in support of Russia​

Donald Trump Says He Trusts Putin More Than U.S. Intelligence 'Lowlifes'​

'We fell in love' - Trump swoons over letters from North Korea's Kim​

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ménage à trois​

 

[schmidlap]

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It is remarkable that some in America actually defer to Putin and Kim in their assault upon European democracies.

 

[schmidlap]

War is already here because Putin is such a c*nt that he's already invaded the Ukraine. Russia gains nothing from it, Russians gain even less as their country is poorer, its economy is based around war, which clearly costs lots of money.

But then what difference does it make? Putin has been stealing from the Russian people for a long time, from 2014 to the invasion of the Ukraine he was stealing so much he could afford to pay for the war. Imagine what Russia would be like for Russians if Putin wasn't a blood thirsty pr*ck.

By kowtowing to Putin, Anus Mouth is supporting the ongoing invasion of a sovereign European nation by Russia and North Korea.

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Since Trump began his second term in January, the United States has not issued any new sanctions against Russia stemming from its invasion of Ukraine — in some cases even easing such restrictions. ​

... The lack of new sanctions... is only allowing Russian President Vladimir Putin ​

to continue his attack on Ukraine, even as Trump has repeatedly stated he will quickly bring an end to the war.​

 

[Zavulon]

Hegemons do not suffer competitors.

And this is why they've raised two more competitors - the EU and China, giving markets, money and technologies to them? Doesn't seem logical, do it?

 

[Zavulon]

War is already here because Putin is such a c*nt that he's already invaded the Ukraine. Russia gains nothing from it, Russians gain even less as their country is poorer, its economy is based around war, which clearly costs lots of money.

But then what difference does it make? Putin has been stealing from the Russian people for a long time, from 2014 to the invasion of the Ukraine he was stealing so much he could afford to pay for the war. Imagine what Russia would be like for Russians if Putin wasn't a blood thirsty pr*ck.

Don't overestimate Putin. He is just a human. It is not about him, it is about you, killing Russian people. And no, if the Russians weren't be such the "blood thirsty pr&cks" - we would be already genocided centuries ago.

 

[Zavulon]

The fear was in the '50s and '60s. By the '80 it was obvious that communism was a failure and no longer a threat. The new idea was that trade with these ex-communist countries would bring peace. Worked fine with Vietnam but Russia and China maintained their expansionist foreign policy. China didn't invade Taiwan but Russia was not so peaceful.

China can't invade Taiwan, because Taiwan is already a part of China. They call themselves Rupublic of China, you know. And no, Russia is one of the most peaceful nations on our planet. May be the most peaceful. We just don't like when somebody abuse, discriminate and kill us. Strange, isn't it?

 

[Zavulon]

It is remarkable that some in America actually defer to Putin and Kim in their assault upon European democracies.

Nothing strange. In fact, European "democracies" is lesser "democratic" (in American understanding of the term) then Russia and DPRK. Actually, "European democraties" are corrupted, evil, discriminative and genocidal regimes.

 

[BothWings]

Did NATO expand or did these countries ask to join because they feared Russia?

im sure not having to pay their fair share was a major talking point for them joining, one that Trump recently rectified.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Nothing strange. In fact, European "democracies" is lesser "democratic" (in American understanding of the term) then Russia and DPRK. Actually, "European democraties" are corrupted, evil, discriminative and genocidal regimes.

Your statement is not valid.

 

[schmidlap]

Nothing strange. In fact, European "democracies" is lesser "democratic" (in American understanding of the term) then Russia and DPRK. Actually, "European democraties" are corrupted, evil, discriminative and genocidal regimes.

Most are able to distinguish between totalitarian regimes Russia and North Korea invading a sovereign European nation, and the democratic nations of NATO resisting such aggression.

 

[Zavulon]

By kowtowing to Putin, Anus Mouth is supporting the ongoing invasion of a sovereign European nation by Russia and North Korea.

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What is "Sovereignity"? It's just a word in dictionary between "Sober" and "Sozzled". If they think that their "sovereignity" gives them (or anybody else) right to kill Russians - they are deadly wrong and should be eliminated.

 

[Zavulon]

Most are able to distinguish between totalitarian regimes Russia and North Korea invading a sovereign European nation, and the democratic nations of NATO resisting such aggression.

Your "most" are just ignorant fools, who know nothing about what actually happens in the world.

 

[GLASNOST]

US Needs to Get Out of Ukraine and NATO​

Well, NATO should be disolved entirely. But so should the EU and the UN.

The US has no more business getting involved in the conflict between Russia and Ukraine .

INVOLVED? What do you mean "involved"? The US started it.

 

[Zavulon]

Your statement is not valid.

Really? It seems to me, that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and you just love to lick european boots.

 

[GLASNOST]

Don't worry. Zoolinsky will get Shah-cancer.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Zavulon licks Putin's boots.