US GDP grows at 3% Trump wins againGDP is growing at 3%

The best and most accomplished economists can't tell you where the economy will be in three months, once the tariffs have fully worked their way through the system. But hardcore partisan ideologues can.

:rolleyes:

We might be fine. Guesses are just guesses.
but three months in it ain't where any demofk said, right? success is what demofks can't have.
 
Thats a ridiculous, stupid lie.

Inflation was already 2.x% when Biden was leaving office.

If you are going to stupidly blame Biden for global post-Covid inflation phenomenon then man up, stick to your stupid standard and consistently give him credit for also fixing global inflation.
Lies.’

1.6% when Tater took office.

3% when he left.

2.7% now.
 
Thats a ridiculous, stupid lie.

Inflation was already 2.x% when Biden was leaving office.

If you are going to stupidly blame Biden for global post-Covid inflation phenomenon then man up, stick to your stupid standard and consistently give him credit for also fixing global inflation.
post the inflation numbers on january 21 2021. Show us this inflation. ready go!!
 
Consumer spending is GDP health... the import/export is being impacted by the tariff craziness which is why we had a GDP crash last quarter without being too bad - it was import related. We are screwed with this anemic lack of growth.
Crashed because of tariffs before there were tariffs. :cuckoo:

You are a complete idiot.
 
Consumer spending is GDP health... the import/export is being impacted by the tariff craziness which is why we had a GDP crash last quarter without being too bad - it was import related. We are screwed with this anemic lack of growth.
So the tariffs worked?
 
Based on the information available as of July 30, 2025:
  • The U.S. federal government has collected approximately $100 billion in tariffs so far in 2025 (through July 11), according to the Penn-Wharton Budget Model.
  • This represents a significant increase compared to the same period in 2024, when less than $48 billion was collecte
  • Extrapolate 100 billion to the end of the year with more countries paying them and you have 200-300 billion times 4 years. Thats almost the entire deficit.

You should provide source when quoting.


So it's $100B vs 48B YTD which is 2:1 ratio.

Total 2024 was ~100B. Assuming same ratio, that means 200B in 2025.

Of that 200B, 100B is assumed baseline and 100B is additional tariffs from Trump policy change.

So estimated policy effect is not +300B/y, it's +100B.



Total budget deficit just for 2025 is 1.9 trillion, so we are talking about something like 7 trillion deficits over 4 years.



So these additional tariff revenue would be estimated to make up only about 5% of budget deficit.
 
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You should provide source when quoting.


So it's $100B vs 48B YTD which is 2:1 ratio.

Total 2024 was ~100B. Assuming same ratio, that means 200B in 2025.

Of that 200B, 100B is assumed baseline and 100B is additional tariffs from Trump policy change.


So estimated policy effect is not +300B/y, it's +100B
Go look it up its common knowledge
 
Go look it up its common knowledge

Basic math is not subject to opinion.

As I've shown, what you've brought up so far does not support your claims of 300B additional revenues.

Maybe you have some other sources, if so simply post them.
 
MAGA math means just naming numbers up.
As President Donald Trump enters the final days before his global trade deadline, tariff revenues have climbed to a record $150 billion so far this year.

Scoop: Trump admin customs revenue tops $100 billion, boosted by tariffs​

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You should provide source when quoting.


So it's $100B vs 48B YTD which is 2:1 ratio.

Total 2024 was ~100B. Assuming same ratio, that means 200B in 2025.

Of that 200B, 100B is assumed baseline and 100B is additional tariffs from Trump policy change.

So estimated policy effect is not +300B/y, it's +100B.



Total budget deficit just for 2025 is 1.9 trillion, so we are talking about something like 7 trillion deficits over 4 years.



So these additional tariff revenue would be estimated to make up only about 5% of budget deficit.

In 2025, U.S. customs tariffs played a major role in revenue generation and trade policy enforcement. Customs authorities collected over $200 million per day from additional tariffs, contributing to a historic milestone of over $100 billion in customs duties within a single fiscal year. This surge in revenue, particularly a 78% increase in tariff collections by June 2025, reflects an aggressive trade stance by the federal government. A total of 13 tariff-related presidential executive orders were implemented by March 2025, targeting strategic sectors and geopolitical interests. These actions significantly impacted trade relationships with four major economies—China, Hong Kong, Mexico, and Canada—resulting in changes to tariff structures and compliance procedures.

The total value of imports processed by U.S. customs reached $1.89 trillion through March 2025,
 

Scoop: Trump admin customs revenue tops $100 billion, boosted by tariffs​


Do you understand what "boosted by tariffs" means?

It means that only part of the $100B is due to Trump's rate changes.

Budget Deficit for 2025 is 1.9 Trillion dollars.
 
As President Donald Trump enters the final days before his global trade deadline, tariff revenues have climbed to a record $150 billion so far this year.

Scoop: Trump admin customs revenue tops $100 billion, boosted by tariffs​

image

That’s nice. It doesn’t come anywhere close to the size of the deficit, especially after Trump passed his bill to widen it further.
 
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From what Powell said, it looks like they figure they'll need to start dropping rates very soon. Hopefully inflation won't pick up much more in the meantime. Bad combo.
Except it will be stagflation.

Even worse.
 

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