Unz: Ukraine is finished and ended so badly might take NATO down as well

[Deadstick]

Perhaps people believe that on Planet Putin but here on Earth, there was no coup, Yanukovych was removed by Constitutional processes, and the 2014 violence began when Russia launched a proxy war against Ukraine, during which Russian troops entered Ukraine.

In early 2014, the Euromaidan protests led to the Revolution of Dignity and the ousting of Ukraine's pro-Russian president Viktor Yanukovych. Shortly after, pro-Russian unrest erupted in eastern and southern Ukraine. Simultaneously, unmarked Russian troops moved into Ukraine's Crimea and took over government buildings, strategic sites and infrastructure. Russia soon annexed Crimea after a highly-disputed referendum. In April 2014, armed pro-Russian separatists seized government buildings in Ukraine's eastern Donbas region and proclaimed the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) and the Luhansk People's Republic (LPR) as independent states, starting the Donbas war. The separatists received considerable but covert support from Russia, and Ukrainian attempts to fully retake separatist-held areas failed. Although Russia denied involvement, Russian troops took part in the fighting.

Russo-Ukrainian War - Wikipedia

Cool story, just a pity it doesn't bear any resemblance to what actually happened, you just repeated the official Western narrative that's a pack of lies.

 

[Deadstick]

There were some street fights in the USA in 2020, you know. But the government of the United States didn't sent "non-government KKK terror battalions" for murdering those "treasonous N-ggers".
There were no US officials, supporting murder of "anti-american" BLM-activists. Every single death was properly investigated. Nobody banned "N-ggers' music" (including RAP and Jazz). There is no "High Council for de-Niggerisation and de-Latinisation".
If it were - we could already have a civil war, too.

When a government doesn't investigate crimes against specific ethnic groups, when the goverment officially deny necesserity of law protection of this specific group, when the government officially abuse and discriminate this specific group... Yeah. Then the people have lawful right and even duty to fight against this abusive and discriminative government.

It was a Nazi pogrom simple as that.

 

[ESay]

We need a Putin, a leader who loves the uniqueness of the country he leads and REFUSES to be a fool for Klaus Schwab and the Great Resetters

Insanity. You and your fucking ilk of Putin-loving loons are disgrace of your country and the very notion of what to be an 'American'.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Insanity. You and your fucking ilk of Putin-loving loons are disgrace of your country and the very notion of what to be an 'American'.

You must love the Great Reset

 

[toomuchtime_]

There were some street fights in the USA in 2020, you know. But the government of the United States didn't sent "non-government KKK terror battalions" for murdering those "treasonous N-ggers".
There were no US officials, supporting murder of "anti-american" BLM-activists. Every single death was properly investigated. Nobody banned "N-ggers' music" (including RAP and Jazz). There is no "High Council for de-Niggerisation and de-Latinisation".
If it were - we could already have a civil war, too.

When a government doesn't investigate crimes against specific ethnic groups, when the goverment officially deny necesserity of law protection of this specific group, when the government officially abuse and discriminate this specific group... Yeah. Then the people have lawful right and even duty to fight against this abusive and discriminative government.

Still more lies, Putinhead, but regardless of what you choose to believe about the events in Odessa, it is irrelevant to Putin's attempt to colonize Ukraine.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Cool story, just a pity it doesn't bear any resemblance to what actually happened, you just repeated the official Western narrative that's a pack of lies.

There is no official Western account of what happened. There is just the truth and Putin's, and your, lies about it.

 

[Deadstick]

There is no official Western account of what happened. There is just the truth and Putin's, and your, lies about it.

Well there is a western narrative repeated 24/7 by the tame MSM,.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Well there is a western narrative repeated 24/7 by the tame MSM,.

No, there isn't. There is a great diversity of opinions among Western media, however just as there is broad agreement among scientists that the Earth is round, there is broad agreement among the free peoples of the Earth that Russia invaded Crimea and the Donbass in 2014.

 

[ESay]

You must love the Great Reset

No, I just despise you ignorant twats.

 

[Deadstick]

No, there isn't. There is a great diversity of opinions among Western media, however just as there is broad agreement among scientists that the Earth is round, there is broad agreement among the free peoples of the Earth that Russia invaded Crimea and the Donbass in 2014.

No there isn't, most of the free world knows why Russia acted.

 

[toomuchtime_]

No there isn't, most of the free world knows why Russia acted.

Everybody, including you, knows that Russia invaded Ukraine because Putin has stated quite plainly that it is a first step in trying to conquer eastern Europe.

June 9 (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin paid tribute on Thursday to Tsar Peter the Great on the 350th anniversary of his birth, drawing a parallel between what he portrayed as their twin historic quests to win back Russian lands.

"Peter the Great waged the Great Northern War for 21 years. It would seem that he was at war with Sweden, he took something from them. He did not take anything from them, he returned (what was Russia's)," Putin said after a visiting an exhibition dedicated to the tsar.

In televised comments on day 106 of his war in Ukraine, he compared Peter's campaign with the task facing Russia today.

"Apparently, it also fell to us to return (what is Russia's) and strengthen (the country). And if we proceed from the fact that these basic values form the basis of our existence, we will certainly succeed in solving the tasks that we face."

Hailing Peter the Great, Putin draws parallel with mission to 'return' Russian lands

Russian President Vladimir Putin paid tribute on Thursday to Tsar Peter the Great on the 350th anniversary of his birth, drawing a parallel between what he portrayed as their twin historic quests to win back Russian lands.

www.reuters.com

I refuse to believe you are too stupid to understand this.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

No, I just despise you ignorant twats.

Klaus Schwab tried to tell the Russians, "You will own nothing and you will be happy" After you lose the war to Ukraine and NATO, we will flood your country with refuges just like we did to the USA

Putin told him to GFY

We need an American Putin as a leader and he won't be a politician

 

[ESay]

Klaus Schwab tried to tell the Russians, "You will own nothing and you will be happy" After you lose the war to Ukraine and NATO, we will flood your country with refuges just like we did to the USA

Putin told him to GFY

We need an American Putin as a leader and he won't be a politician

You idiot. There are millions of Muslim migrants in Russia from the Central Asia. In some regions, their number in a construction sector reaches 30 %.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You idiot. There are millions of Muslim migrants in Russia from the Central Asia. In some regions, their number in a construction sector reaches 30 %.

derrr there are million of immigrants in America too! How about the last 3 years?

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

You must love the Great Reset.

Klaus Schwab tried to tell the Russians, "You will own nothing and you will be happy" After you lose the war to Ukraine and NATO, we will flood your country with refuges just like we did to the USA

Putin told him to GFY

We need an American Putin as a leader and he won't be a politician

Only truly truly ignorant people can argue like this. Why don’t we want a leader like Kim Jong-un or XiJinping or a government like Iran’s — didn’t they all also tell “Klaus Schwab” … to “GFY!” ???

But wait a minute … who is this Klaus Schwab anyway? What power does he have besides his big mouth and over-heated imagination, his hyper-inventive predictions and proficies, his desperate search for the new “catchy phrase” to get his once a year conclave of rich bores interested in attending his ever more pointless talk-fest?

To be sure, for corporate jet-setters it’s an opportunity to get-together with other corporate bigwigs and maybe hustle up some new business deals. But for media types and government leaders, it’s mostly just a luxurious holiday in a beautiful Swiss Alps town, a chance to look “concerned” about the world’s problems …

Does this Claus guy have any real power? Any control over world banks? Any military forces? Any power over governments? Any … anything? Nope… We might as well worry about what the pope predicts and hopes for!

The “Great Reset” is a great mania of paranoid hysterics and reactionary “true believers,” sort of like “The Last Days” or QAnon’s “Storm” … that some people are still waiting for.

Will shit happen in the future? Sure! Shit always happens. Will it be planned by Klaus Schwab? … or Charles Schwab? … or by the spirit of Claus Barbie? … or by some conclave of “evil elves” in Bowler Hats? … by some ridiculous “mini-Me”? No. Not likely at all.

Of course even if some “Great Reset” is planned down to the very last details by evil, evil mice and men, or by the “Devil Himself” … there’s always a chance we will be saved by … the “Second Coming” of our Savior Jesus Christ … or maybe even by … Santa Claus!

But since we can’t really depend on Santa or Jesus to save us … we really need our own … Putin or Kim Jung-un!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Only truly truly ignorant people can argue like this. Why don’t we want a leader like Kim Jong-un or XiJinping or a government like Iran’s — didn’t they all also tell “Klaus Schwab” … to “GFY!” ???

But wait a minute … who is this Klaus Schwab anyway? What power does he have besides his big mouth and over-heated imagination, his hyper-inventive predictions and proficies, his desperate search for the new “catchy phrase” to get his once a year conclave of rich bores interested in attending his ever more pointless talk-fest?

To be sure, for corporate jet-setters it’s an opportunity to get-together with other corporate bigwigs and maybe hustle up some new business deals. But for media types and government leaders, it’s mostly just a luxurious holiday in a beautiful Swiss Alps town, a chance to look “concerned” about the world’s problems …

Does this Claus guy have any real power? Any control over world banks? Any military forces? Any power over governments? Any … anything? Nope… We might as well worry about what the pope predicts and hopes for!

The “Great Reset” is a great mania of paranoid hysterics and reactionary “true believers,” sort of like “The Last Days” or QAnon’s “Storm” … that some people are still waiting for.

Will shit happen in the future? Sure! Shit always happens. Will it be planned by Klaus Schwab? … or Charles Schwab? … or by the spirit of Claus Barbie? … or by some conclave of “evil elves” in Bowler Hats? … by some ridiculous “mini-Me”? No. Not likely at all.

Of course even if some “Great Reset” is planned down to the very last details by evil, evil mice and men, or by the “Devil Himself” … there’s always a chance we will be saved by … the “Second Coming” of our Savior Jesus Christ … or maybe even by … Santa Claus!

But since we can’t really depend on Santa or Jesus to save us … we really need our own … Putin or Kim Jung-un!

I forgot, you believe Biden received 81,000,000 legitimate votes

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

@CrusaderFrank : “I forgot, you believe Biden received 81,000,000 legitimate votes.”

Absolutely! Millions and millions of people — just like me — who did not vote for Obama in 2012 or Hillary in 2016, did vote for Biden in 2020 — not because we loved him or loved Democrats but because we were sick to death of you morons and your dangerous criminally-inclined demagogue and conspirator Donald Trump.

Trump before 2020 already said he admired Putin, Xi, and Kim Jong-un. I said then that Trump-cultist idiots like you would follow his lead anywhere and actually wanted a dictator like Putin in the U.S.A. I knew then you were like children following your Pied Piper and would follow him even to “terminate” our laws and Constitution to keep him or somebody like him in power. I knew deep down you opposed our democratic and Constitutional system.

Of course you and almost all Republicans back then denied this. You’re so stupid you didn’t even know where you were heading!

And here you are proving I was right all along!!! Here you are admitting you want a dictator like Putin!

You should move to Russia or North Korea, you fucking traitor and moron!

 

[ESay]

derrr there are million of immigrants in America too! How about the last 3 years?

Then why do you love Putin so much? Devastated political opposition, state controlled media, judicial system being an extention of the state's punishment machine, oligarch clans, ethnic enclaves with their own rules.

What else do you want to bring to America?

 

[Bleipriester]

Perhaps people believe that on Planet Putin but here on Earth, there was no coup, Yanukovych was removed by Constitutional processes, and the 2014 violence began when Russia launched a proxy war against Ukraine, during which Russian troops entered Ukraine.

In early 2014, the Euromaidan protests led to the Revolution of Dignity and the ousting of Ukraine's pro-Russian president Viktor Yanukovych. Shortly after, pro-Russian unrest erupted in eastern and southern Ukraine. Simultaneously, unmarked Russian troops moved into Ukraine's Crimea and took over government buildings, strategic sites and infrastructure. Russia soon annexed Crimea after a highly-disputed referendum. In April 2014, armed pro-Russian separatists seized government buildings in Ukraine's eastern Donbas region and proclaimed the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) and the Luhansk People's Republic (LPR) as independent states, starting the Donbas war. The separatists received considerable but covert support from Russia, and Ukrainian attempts to fully retake separatist-held areas failed. Although Russia denied involvement, Russian troops took part in the fighting.

Russo-Ukrainian War - Wikipedia

Funny guy, you are?

Ukraine´s Nazi party in the government.

Oleh Tyahnybok, Leader of the Svoboda Party (former Social-National Party of Ukraine) that has three ministers and a vice minister in the Ukrainian government and puts the Deputy Prime Minister The western made putsch in the Ukraine caused the far right nazi party to participate in the...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[CrusaderFrank]

re you

Then why do you love Putin so much? Devastated political opposition, state controlled media, judicial system being an extention of the state's punishment machine, oligarch clans, ethnic enclaves with their own rules.

What else do you want to bring to America?

Are you an American?

Here's life in Progressive America 2.0

Devastated political opposition...check

state controlled media...check

judicial system being an extension of the state's punishment machine...J6 political prisoners 3 WHOLE FUCKING YEARS WITHOUT A TRIAL

oligarch clans... democrat Big city political machines manufacturing tens of millions of votes

ethnic enclaves with their own rules....you mean like Philly and Baltimore?