Is this winning?Western leaders can no longer hide the truth about Ukraine

[Ringo]

Still, there are decent people even in the U.S. Senate.

 

[para bellum]

Still, there are decent people even in the U.S. Senate.

He's a state senator...

 

[badger2]

Still, there are decent people even in the U.S. Senate.

Whatever senate, he gets badger's vote.

 

[Ringo]

POLITICO Pro: Kyiv says Big Oil should pay to rebuild Ukraine’s shattered infrastructure

Energy minister also warns the war risks dragging on forever unless the West closes sanctions loopholes on the Kremlin’s hydrocarbon revenues.

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Ukraine has demanded that global energy companies share their profits in order to restore the country's energy infrastructure. This was reported by Politico, citing the head of the Ministry of Energy of the republic German Galushchenko. "Many energy companies have huge unforeseen profits because of the war. We've estimated it at more than $200 billion. I think it would be fair to share that money with Ukraine. I mean, to help us rebuild the energy sector."

 

[zaangalewa]

Hmhm ... taramtata ... pfbpfbpfb ... ahmm ...




What did say the criminal leader of Russia when all Russian soldiers will have left Belarus and the Ukraine?

 

[Ringo]

 

[badger2]

This is the town that sports an annual street puppet theater. This is the town that felt Putin's first Kinzhal hit as the Pentagon's black marionette, Austin, was en route to Sophia. This is the province and citadel of the CIA for the last seven decades. When the CIA goes to church, it's damn sure not to pray.

 

[Ringo]

 

[ralfy]

Need to keep the dollar propped up.

 

[georgephillip]

Obama's foreign policy "Russian Reset" of 2008 turned to rabid Russophobia when Putin made it clear western capitalists would no longer be allowed to plunder Russia as they had during the 1990s.
https://www.conservapedia.com/Maidan_coup#Tech_camp.2C_terrorist_training.2C_and_Hromdske_TV

"Tech camp, terrorist training, and Hromdske TV​

"On March 1, 2013, the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv held its first 'Tech Camp'[23] in a series of Tech Camps to teach Ukraine's leading pro-nazis how to reach out to their followers so as to get as many people as possible trained and prepared to follow their instructions on what to do when the Euromaidan 'anti-corruption' demonstrations would be held.

"Simultaneously, under Polish Government authorization, the CIA was training in Poland the military Right Sector leaders how to lead the coming U.S. coup in neighboring Ukraine.

"As the independent Polish investigative journalist Marek Miszczuk headlined for the Polish magazine NIE ('meaning “NO”) (the original article being in Polish): 'Maidan secret state secret: Polish training camp for Ukrainians'[2"

 

[georgephillip]

Need to keep the dollar propped up.

In 1971 Nixon took the US economy off the gold standard.
One year later the economist Michael Hudson wrote about how that decision explains "...how American imperialism... created a global free lunch where the US makes foreign countries pay for its wars, and even their own military occupation."

"MICHAEL HUDSON: Well I wrote 'Super Imperialism' in 1972, and it was published exactly one year after President Nixon took America off gold in August of 1971. he reason he took America off gold was that the entire balance-of-payments deficit from the Korean War to the Vietnam War was military in character.

"Especially in the ’60s, the money that America was spending in Vietnam and Southeast Asia had to be spent locally. And the banks were French banks, because it was French Indochina.

"So all the money would be sent to Paris, to the banks’ head offices, turned over from dollars into francs, and General de Gaulle would end up with these dollars.

"Then every month he would send the dollars and want payment in gold. And Germany would do the same thing..."

Saudi Arabia offers a good example of what followed the gold standard:

"A former mentor, the man who taught me (Hudson) all about the oil industry at Standard Oil, became undersecretary of the Treasury for international affairs.

"When Herman Kahn and I went to the White House, he said, 'We’ve told the Saudi Arabians that they can charge whatever they want for their oil, but all the money they get, they have to recycle to the United States. Mostly they can buy Treasury bonds, so that we’ll have the money to keep on spending...'"

"So basically, when America spends money abroad, central banks really don’t speculate.

"They don’t buy companies.

"They buy Treasury bonds.

"So we run a monetary deficit; the dollars are spent abroad; the central banks lend them back to the Treasury; and that finances the
budget deficit, but it also finances the balance-of-payments deficit. So we just keep giving paper IOUs, not gold."

The Hard Fist of American Imperialism | Michael Hudson

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I say disband NATO & let Ukraine & Russia make a peace they can both live with.
This is a family squabble between cousins with a long standing beef.

NWO has other plans though & peace isn't part of it.
Famine, energy scarcity & neo-fascism/feudalism can't be sold to the sheep without mass chaos first

I say that Putin withdraws his troops from the oblasts and Crimea, swears eternal peace, and stays within the 1991 borders.
Either that, or he and goodportion of his country dies..

 

[BackAgain]

According to western satanist narrative Putin & Zelensky shall continue the war until the last Ukrainians and Russians die.
Why USA, EU, NATO, Putin, Zelensky so badly need the war?
It's a good question, there are many theories, but only completely idiots in Ukraine and Russia can believe their corrupted freemasonic satanist 'leaders'



Recently, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen carelessly revealed the devastating cost of the Ukraine war.
“It is estimated that more than 20,000 civilians and 100,000 Ukrainian military personnel have died to date,” she said. The comment drew sharp backlash and the E.C. later deleted the comments from video recordings of the address. The censorship was left unexplained and demonstrated the confusion of the purveyors of the approved narrative.
If Von der Leyen’s estimate is true, that is nearly ten times the number of dead Ukrainian soldiers reported by the Ukrainian government. The E.C. president’s remark shows that even the strongest backers of this bloody and unnecessary war can no longer hide the truth: Ukraine is at risk of losing.
The mainstream media and the Biden administration insist ad nauseam that Ukraine is winning against Russia. But the facts on the ground do not fit the narrative and the administration and media know it. The war hawks know their cynical Ukraine policy has not succeeded in driving Russia out of Ukraine. Tragically, the Ukrainians are the ones who suffer the immense cost of this foreign policy failure. Their nation is ruined for the sake and at the instigation of the globalist American empire.
As Ukraine loses its grip on heavily defended and important crossroads around the city of Bakhmut, the Western press has commenced a campaign to downplay the importance of the loss. Defense Express reports: “UK Defense Intelligence States [t]hat Bakhmut's capture becomes primarily a symbolic, political objective for Russia.” Last week, the Financial Times published an article entitled: “Hell Just Hell: Ukraine and Russia's war of attrition over Bakhmut.” As the subtitle of the piece reads, “Soldiers say fighting in and around eastern Donetsk city is reminiscent of first world war-style trench conflict.”
The following information is an indication of the nature of the Ukrainian “victory” over the previous six months.
Ukraine has lost an estimated 20 percent of its territory. At least 22 percent of Ukrainian farmland is under Russian control. These areas are a large part of the territory identified in the Minsk II agreement that were to be governed as autonomous districts. Due to the failure of the Minsk II agreement, Russia declared its Special Military Operations to free these areas from the grip of the Ukrainian government. As of today, it appears Russia has come close to achieving some of its initial goals.
In May 2022, the United Nations Refugee Agency reported that nearly eight million Ukrainians have been internally displaced, with another six million registered as refugees. That number is likely to rise even higher this winter. As a result of the recent Russian missile attacks on the Ukrainian power grid, even more people are fleeing Ukraine. Europe expects hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian refugees this winter due to the nation’s ruined cities. Kiev Mayor Vitali Klitschko may urge an evacuation of his city due to its failures to provide basic services to its population.
CNN reported a month ago that at least 30 percent of Ukrainian power stations are destroyed. BBC reports that six million Ukrainians are without power. EuroNews recently reported that two-thirds of Kiev is without power. An estimated 80 percent of Kiev is without water. News reports declare that Kiev is getting ready to survive without power, water and heating. Ukraine has evacuated cities that have become uninhabitable without heating or power. The World Health Organization warns millions of lives are “under threat” this winter.
Forbes Magazine reports that nearly half of Ukraine is without power. Newsweek reports that Ukraine's energy giant is running out of equipment to fix power outages. How long is the Ukrainian capital going to function without power?
The Ukrainian Central Bank estimates the nation’s 2022 GDP will decline by 32 percent, inflation will hit 30 percent, and unemployment will reach 30 percent. The New York Times reported Ukraine's agriculture industry has lost an estimated $23 billion from the war. The International Monetary Fund reports the Ukraine war has led to the worst food shortage since 2008. CNN reports that Ukraine's communications are entirely dependent on Elon Musk's Starlink system. If there are troubles with the system, the country goes dark.
Brookings reports: “The war has destroyed at least $127 billion of the nation’s buildings and other infrastructure, according to the Kyiv School of Economics.” The Washington Post reports the Ukrainians are asking for $700 billion in addition to the over $100 billion we have sent.
On the ground, Ukraine has had difficulty taking any territory actively defended by Russia. The recent “victory” of Ukraine capturing Kherson has evaporated. Ukraine is evacuating Kherson due to Russian shelling. The Ukrainian military machine is unable to maintain control of a city their opponent had evacuated. All the September and October Ukrainian offensives have stalled, and the Russians appear to be solidifying their lines of defense and dramatically increasing their forces in the field while Ukraine is drafting sixty-year-old men.
Ukraine is also losing its access to the resources it needs to continue the war. The U.S. and Europe are running out of weapons to send Ukraine. In addition, CNN reports weapons supplies for Ukraine are running low. Ukraine’s military equipment, especially its artillery, is crumbling and the West can’t replace much of what is breaking down.
Foreign Policy reports that NATO officials are very worried by the shortages. Even neocon Frederick Kagan admits NATO isn’t prepared for a conflict like Ukraine. “NATO doesn’t really plan to fight wars like this, and by that I mean wars with a super intensive use of artillery systems and lots of tank and gun rounds,” Kagan told Foreign Policy. “We were never stocked for this kind of war to begin with.” According to the CEO of Raytheon, Ukraine has used thirteen years of Javelin production in ten months.
n’t have to be this way. Ukraine and Russia could have made a lasting peace deal if it weren’t for the meddling of the Globalist American Empire. In March of 2022, the two sides appeared to be close to agreeing on terms to settle the conflict. It appeared that the agreement would assure Ukraine would never join NATO. The NATO issue is the biggest in this whole affair. The United States and United Kingdom thwarted this deal and the war has continued since, killing tens of thousands of Ukrainians, Russians, and others. Their blood is on the hands of U.S. and U.K. leaders.
U.S. defense contractors, politicians, and think tanks are profiting at the expense of Ukraine and its unfortunate citizens. The rest of Europe is suffering from the “maximum sanctions” aimed at Russia while Ukrainians continue to flee their own country. None of this suffering appears to concern the people in charge of American foreign policy. They don’t care about Ukraine’s ruin–they only care about sticking it to Russia. This is the inevitable product of a D.C. worldview that sees humans as cattle.
No doubt, the cost of the war to Russia has been high as well. They have miscalculated and made errors throughout this whole tragedy. But the narrative purveyed to the American people has not been honest or accurate. What does Ukraine gain by losing tens of thousands of lives and significant portions of its infrastructure? Many Ukrainians have lost their loved ones and face a brutal winter all for the sake of people like Ursula von der Leyen, Joe Biden, and their neocon handlers. It’s time for Western leaders face the truth, and pursue negotiations to save the Ukrainians from this human tragedy.

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Is This Winning?

Western leaders can no longer hide the truth about Ukraine.

www.theamericanconservative.com

Well. That was long. I stopped reading after the opening paragraph.

 

[Ringo]

I say that Putin withdraws his troops from the oblasts and Crimea, swears eternal peace, and stays within the 1991 borders.
Either that, or he and goodportion of his country dies..

I didn't know that brainless zombies had access to the Internet... Although I didn't know that men could box women before. Go back to your herd and take your dose.

 

[Litwin]

Does anyone else recall LBJ and his call for preserving freedom in South Vietnam?

Washington Is Prolonging Ukraine's Suffering - The American Conservative

"The real danger now is that Biden will soon appear on television to repeat LBJ’s performance in 1965, substituting the word 'Ukraine' for 'South Vietnam':

"Tonight, my fellow Americans I want to speak to you about freedom, democracy, and the struggle of the Ukrainian people for victory.

"No other question so preoccupies our people.

"No other dream so absorbs the millions who live in Ukraine and Eastern Europe… However, I am not talking about a NATO attack on Russia.

"Rather, I propose to send a U.S. led coalition of the willing, consisting of American, Polish, and Romanian armed forces into Ukraine, to establish the ground equivalent of a 'no-fly zone.'

"The mission I propose is a peaceful one, to create a safe zone in the Western most portion of Ukraine for Ukrainian Forces and refugees struggling to survive Russia’s devastating attacks…"

Modern history of Ukraine - Wikipedia

Does anyone else find it noteworthy that western Ukraine was part of Poland prior to 1939?

"During a speech given on November 29, Polish Vice-Minister of National Defense (MON) Marcin Ociepa said: 'The probability of a war in which we will be involved is very high. Too high for us to treat this scenario only hypothetically.'

"The Polish MON is allegedly planning to call up 200,000 reservists in 2023 for a few weeks’ training, but observers in Warsaw suspect this action could easily lead to a national mobilization."

you dirty ivan , you without chances

 

[Litwin]

I didn't know that brainless zombies had access to the Internet... Although I didn't know that men could box women before. Go back to your herd and take your dose.

RT imperialist zombie

 

[Litwin]

" Saddam Putsein the Great Loser" is rapidly sending Muscovy back to 1917.

 

[georgephillip]

you dirty ivan , you without chances
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Will he die in defense of his beloved Ukraine or fly away like a timid little puppet?

 

[Litwin]

Will he die in defense of his beloved Ukraine or fly away like a timid little puppet?
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BAD NEWS FOR YOU HORDESMEN !

German Defense Minister believes limited attacks by Ukraine on Moscow empire territory are an Acceptable tactic in repelling putin's invasion.

Yes, glad Germany finally has reached this point ! DEATH TO MOSCOW BARBARIC , COLONIAL EMPIRE ! German Defense Minister believes limited attacks by Ukraine on Moscow empire territory are an acceptable tactic in repelling putin's invasion.

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PS KEEP SUCKING MUSLIMS DICKS, YOU SLAVE )))

 

[Litwin]

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