Unsealed Trump Search Warrant - Trump had classified Documents

[bigrebnc1775]

That you think carelessness is a defense here is astounding

Worked for Hillary

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Think about Trumps claimed "standing declassification" order.

That anything he removed from the oval office, to the residence, would be instantly "declassified".

But do you know what that means? Whatever material Trump removed to the residence, was now able to be disclosed to Putin, Iran, China, North Korea.

The white house staff was free to take any papers laying around the white house residence, and put them into the nearest fax machine, and sent them to our enemies.

What's your issue? A president can declassify any document he chooses before he leaves the white house

 

[meaner gene]

He didn't go bankrupt 6 of his businesses did.

Fantastic business man!
MAGA

Trump ran the businesses. They went bankrupt under Trumps control. Yet they think that doesn't reflect on Trumps ability to run a business.

 

[Delldude]

Trump ran the businesses. They went bankrupt under Trumps control. Yet they think that doesn't reflect on Trumps ability to run a business.

Looks like His education at Wharton School of Business paid off.

 

[meaner gene]

What's your issue? A president can declassify any document he chooses before he leaves the white house

And the meaning of declassifying a document is that our enemies can then get access to it.

 

[Delldude]

And the meaning of declassifying a document is that our enemies can then get access to it.

There are mandatory declassification rules.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Conservatives are as predictable as they are dishonest – they fill the thread with deflections and lies.

Liar

 

[meaner gene]

Looks like His education at Wharton School of Business paid off.

Yes he was able to bullshit his investors. Before 6 of his companies went bankrupt. Including a casino during the casino boom in New Jersey.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

And the meaning of declassifying a document is that our enemies can then get access to it.

Liar

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Hahaha

This is about as culty as it gets

Liar

 

[meaner gene]

There are mandatory declassification rules.

Those come after 10, 25, or 50 years. And even then, the original classifier can object to their declassification, so that they remain classified.

There are no completely automatic declassifications.

 

[meaner gene]

Liar

It's absolutely true. Any document which gets "declassified" becomes available to the public, to people in other countries, and even to Russia, Iran, North Korea and China.

Classified or declassified: Where does that presidential power come from?

Josh Dunn, political science professor at the University of Colorado Colorado Springs, explained what declassification is and where it originated.

www.thedenverchannel.com

Josh Dunn, political science professor at the University of Colorado Colorado Springs, explained what declassification is

He said declassification essentially means a previously confidential document can be accessed by the public.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

It's absolutely true. Any document which gets "declassified" becomes available to the public, to people in other countries, and even to Russia, Iran, North Korea and China.

Classified or declassified: Where does that presidential power come from?

Josh Dunn, political science professor at the University of Colorado Colorado Springs, explained what declassification is and where it originated.

www.thedenverchannel.com

Josh Dunn, political science professor at the University of Colorado Colorado Springs, explained what declassification is

He said declassification essentially means a previously confidential document can be accessed by the public.

Liar

 

[meaner gene]

Liar

Research Guides: Finding Government Documents: Declassified Documents

This guide brings together both online and print resources that contain documents created by the U.S. federal government along with related research tools.

guides.loc.gov

 

[Chillicothe]

• 500 businesses and he had 6 bankruptcies

• Yeah, they tend to forget (who am I kidding, they actively ignore) the fact that he had so many businesses.

Well, what I read way back in 2015 or 2016 during the run-up to that '16 race against Clinton was ------ yes, he had a lot of 'businesses'.
But a lot of them.....a friggin' lot of them, by far most of them .....were merely 'paper' businesses. E.g., he incorporated the swimming pools at his properties so they were stand-alone liability sumps. The pro-shop, gift-shop, landscaping, food service, maintenance, at his resorts and properties were each stand-alone entities. And on and on. So, count me skeptical that Don Trump is a multi-talented CEO managing the likes of Textron or Ventas or General Electric.
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He didn't go bankrupt 6 of his businesses did.

You say he isn't responsible for the bankruptcy.....the 'company' is.
Yet, as sole owner he's responsible for something. No?
Because it sure looks like the sole owner went bankrupt with some of those companies.
Or look, at it this way: Any company that was profitable wasn't profitable because of Don Trump......it was the company that made itself profitable.

See how thin your argument is?
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The FBI collects the evidence and the DOJ has to prove their case.
And if the evidence is tainted then the prosecution will have a weaker case.
After all, in this country you have the presumption of innocence.

We quite agree.
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All the Defense has to do to show a lack of probable cause is present, in that the judge that signed the warrant admittedly had an inherent prejudice against Trump from another civil case.....and that the AG went on a fishing expedition, because the warrant was too broad to meet the standards for a legal warrant.

And then, that's where your argument starts to slide sideway, poster mudwhistle.
'Show lack of probable cause'...... OK, let's hear the argument why there was a lack, after being informed by a whistle-blower and finding illegal stuff where he whistleblower said it would be. I ain't a lawyer but I kinda think showing 'lack of probable cause' may be a bit of a challenge.
And your next thought doesn't appear to be complete...."....in that the judge ....admittedly had an inherent prejudice"? Ummm, 'admittedley'? Who admitted that? You?

And the 'warrant was too broad to meet the standards'? Umm, post, if you will good poster 'mudwhistle', your law degree, and to which bar you have been admitted, and your professional bona fides.

If you can't do that......then you are what is often termed a 'barstool barrister'. A talker. Not a knower. Not a doer.
Show us otherwise. Show us you are a man to take seriously. And not just a frivolous internet Tinkerbell.
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They breached Trump's 4th Amendment rights by conducting an overly invasive search and seizure.

See the comment above about 'barstool barrister'.
Show us some meat, poster.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Research Guides: Finding Government Documents: Declassified Documents

This guide brings together both online and print resources that contain documents created by the U.S. federal government along with related research tools.

guides.loc.gov

Liar

 

[Delldude]

Those come after 10, 25, or 50 years. And even then, the original classifier can object to their declassification, so that they remain classified.

There are no completely automatic declassifications.

It's absolutely true. Any document which gets "declassified" becomes available to the public, to people in other countries, and even to Russia, Iran, North Korea and China.

Classified or declassified: Where does that presidential power come from?

Josh Dunn, political science professor at the University of Colorado Colorado Springs, explained what declassification is and where it originated.

www.thedenverchannel.com

Josh Dunn, political science professor at the University of Colorado Colorado Springs, explained what declassification is

He said declassification essentially means a previously confidential document can be accessed by the public.

Kinda funny how shortly before the raid, Patel and Solomon were mentioned by Trump, as going to publish certain doc's from the Archives.....legally.
This pissing match on the hows and why's of Trump's declassification privileges will be ironed out in court, if it gets that far. There is precedent in the way He handled doc's already, going back several administrations, incuding the DOJ respsonse to Hillary's handling of classified material.. That will make or break Garlands filing any charges......

 

[meaner gene]

Liar

Funny, you just called a government site that gives access to declassified documents a liar?

Sure you want to claim that?

 

[kaz]

Unsealed Search Warrant with receipt of items taken shows Trump had:
Top Secret Classified Documents
Confidential Classified Documents
Miscellaneous Secret Documents

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/08/read-the-unsealed-trump-search-warrant.html

Great example of how Democrats lie, thanks! They were his documents. You make it sound like he was collecting secret documents from other sources.

Democrat = liar

 

[Delldude]

Well, what I read way back in 2015 or 2016 during the run-up to that '16 race against Clinton was ------ yes, he had a lot of 'businesses'.
But a lot of them.....a friggin' lot of them, by far most of them .....were merely 'paper' businesses. E.g., he incorporated the swimming pools at his properties so they were stand-alone liability sumps. The pro-shop, gift-shop, landscaping, food service, maintenance, at his resorts and properties were each stand-alone entities. And on and on. So, count me skeptical that Don Trump is a multi-talented CEO managing the likes of Textron or Ventas or General Electric.
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You say he isn't responsible for the bankruptcy.....the 'company' is.
Yet, as sole owner he's responsible for something. No?
Because it sure looks like the sole owner went bankrupt with some of those companies.
Or look, at it this way: Any company that was profitable wasn't profitable because of Don Trump......it was the company that made itself profitable.

See how thin your argument is?
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We quite agree.
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And then, that's where your argument starts to slide sideway, poster mudwhistle.
'Show lack of probable cause'...... OK, let's hear the argument why there was a lack, after being informed by a whistle-blower and finding illegal stuff where he whistleblower said it would be. I ain't a lawyer but I kinda think showing 'lack of probable cause' may be a bit of a challenge.
And your next thought doesn't appear to be complete...."....in that the judge ....admittedly had an inherent prejudice"? Ummm, 'admittedley'? Who admitted that? You?

And the 'warrant was too broad to meet the standards'? Umm, post, if you will good poster 'mudwhistle', your law degree, and to which bar you have been admitted, and your professional bona fides.

If you can't do that......then you are what is often termed a 'barstool barrister'. A talker. Not a knower. Not a doer.
Show us otherwise. Show us you are a man to take seriously. And not just a frivolous internet Tinkerbell.
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See the comment above about 'barstool barrister'.
Show us some meat, poster.

Taking advantage of bankruptcy law is common sense when in that situation.

Nothing illegal there, whether you like it or not.